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2021-11-29 8:24:36 AM  
Well, at least they still have the one where Homer asks President Clinton for some Tang.
 
2021-11-29 8:38:38 AM  
I'm waiting for the hackers to inflitrate and lock in continuous coverage of Tiananmem Square on all Chinese media for a week, locking in disabling with the economy and financial markets.
 
2021-11-29 9:13:30 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: I'm waiting for the hackers to inflitrate and lock in continuous coverage of Tiananmem Square on all Chinese media for a week, locking in disabling with the economy and financial markets.


You're part of the reason why Hollywood will use "hackers" to resolve problems caused by lazy screenwriters.
 
2021-11-29 9:30:14 AM  
evil corporation
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2021-11-29 9:32:32 AM  
I went to China a couple of years ago. We hired a guide to take us around. When we went to Tiananmen, I asked a question of her about protests of 1989 and she nearly fled in terror thinking we were government spies or something. You could see the fear in her eyes. She made it very clear that this was not something that we ever spoke about. Thankfully we didn't have anyone show up and take us away.

/csb
 
2021-11-29 10:24:11 AM  
Go easy on Disney, they don't have all the money yet. When there's not a single dollar left in the hands of someone they might potentially offend, then they can worry about things like ethics.
 
2021-11-29 10:24:55 AM  
Family Guy; German tour bus
Youtube sacn_bCj8tQ
 
2021-11-29 10:26:28 AM  
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2021-11-29 10:27:39 AM  
"NONE OF YOU ARE TO OFFEND CHINA! GOT IT???"
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2021-11-29 10:29:23 AM  
Meanwhile in the U.S., we're scrubbing the history and legacy of enslavement from school curriculums.

So let's call it even.
 
2021-11-29 10:31:56 AM  

thornhill: Meanwhile in the U.S., we're scrubbing the history and legacy of enslavement from school curriculums.

So let's call it even.


you are a complete moron if you think that.
 
2021-11-29 10:31:59 AM  
But there's still a Tiananmem Square  right?  A smarter regime would turn it in to a mall, parking garage or even a nice park.   "How can any one protest here?  It's 30% Orange Julius Day!   Violence while the whisps of Mrs Fields chocolate chip cookies are in the air?  Unpossible!  I come here to save on Dockers, not turn against a delightful regime."
 
2021-11-29 10:32:04 AM  
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2021-11-29 10:32:12 AM  
It was years before we saw this episode again, so <shrugs>.

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2021-11-29 10:32:24 AM  

Ragin' Asian: [YouTube video: Family Guy; German tour bus]


That bit was such a tell that MacFarlane has never been to Germany, let alone Munich. Memorials were all over the place (and even on the ground you walk; e.g. the Rose Movement papers reproduced in some of the bricks/tiles near Marienplatz IIRC...)
 
2021-11-29 10:33:25 AM  

thornhill: Meanwhile in the U.S., we're scrubbing the history and legacy of enslavement from school curriculums.

So let's call it even.


Meh, we aren't locking people up if they mention it.

Yet.

/Let's see if I can get Fark in trouble with China
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2021-11-29 10:34:22 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: But there's still a Tiananmem Square  right?  A smarter regime would turn it in to a mall, parking garage or even a nice park.   "How can any one protest here?  It's 30% Orange Julius Day!   Violence while the whisps of Mrs Fields chocolate chip cookies are in the air?  Unpossible!  I come here to save on Dockers, not turn against a delightful regime."


Already happened; Tiananmem Square is indeed a tourist attraction now.  The shopping mall and food courts are a brief walk nearby.
 
2021-11-29 10:35:40 AM  
In Disney's defense, who else will make the crap they need to sell to the rubes at the mark up they need to get their bonuses?
 
2021-11-29 10:35:57 AM  
So pull the entire episode, not cut 3 seconds of that one gag?
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2021-11-29 10:37:11 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: I'm waiting for the hackers to inflitrate and lock in continuous coverage of Tiananmem Square on all Chinese media for a week, locking in disabling with the economy and financial markets.


The Chinese authorities would simply start powering-down critical nodes for the data and broadcast networks and sort it all out offline, likely by combing connectivity logs and then murdering whole households.

No "hacker" is going to track down the Chinese-media equivalent of disabled QAM encoders for their cable TV network or broadcast transmitters for their OTA TV network and restore them.
 
2021-11-29 10:38:42 AM  

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Must. Destroy. Capitalism. (For enabling the CCP).
 
2021-11-29 10:40:50 AM  
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2021-11-29 10:41:12 AM  
It's easy for people outside of China to criticize this kind of thing. Any Disney or Disney adjacent company employees who do live there would be the ones who have to face the Chinese government. Terrible things can happen to them and their families. So I laugh pretty hard when people make a stink about this. It isn't Disney (or any other company) making this decision in a vacuum. It puts real people in real danger. It amazes me how many people conveniently forget that when they rant and rave about this kind of crap. It's kind of embarrassing to see armchair quarterbacks make brazen comments about things they know so obviously very little about.
 
2021-11-29 10:43:24 AM  

thornhill: Meanwhile in the U.S., we're scrubbing the history and legacy of enslavement from school curriculums.

So let's call it even.


Maybe in your shiatty school district.
/ At least you could "what about" the US.
 
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2021-11-29 10:43:33 AM  

RepoManTSM: Rapmaster2000: [Fark user image 640x480]

Must. Destroy. Capitalism. (For enabling the CCP).


You can narrow-down that blame pretty well:

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2021-11-29 10:43:49 AM  
 
2021-11-29 10:47:43 AM  

TWX: OtherLittleGuy: I'm waiting for the hackers to inflitrate and lock in continuous coverage of Tiananmem Square on all Chinese media for a week, locking in disabling with the economy and financial markets.

The Chinese authorities would simply start powering-down critical nodes for the data and broadcast networks and sort it all out offline, likely by combing connectivity logs and then murdering whole households.

No "hacker" is going to track down the Chinese-media equivalent of disabled QAM encoders for their cable TV network or broadcast transmitters for their OTA TV network and restore them.


Well not with that attitude!
 
2021-11-29 10:50:26 AM  

Mister Buttons: thornhill: Meanwhile in the U.S., we're scrubbing the history and legacy of enslavement from school curriculums.

So let's call it even.

Meh, we aren't locking people up if they mention it.

Yet.

/Let's see if I can get Fark in trouble with China
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We're getting there.

We've taken the first step with banning certain topics. When teachers defy the ban, GOP controlled legislatures will escalate the penalties.

I think we all know that it's only a matter of time until the Texas or Florida punishes teaching CRT with jail time.
 
2021-11-29 10:51:30 AM  

cew-smoke: It's easy for people outside of China to criticize this kind of thing. Any Disney or Disney adjacent company employees who do live there would be the ones who have to face the Chinese government. Terrible things can happen to them and their families. So I laugh pretty hard when people make a stink about this. It isn't Disney (or any other company) making this decision in a vacuum. It puts real people in real danger. It amazes me how many people conveniently forget that when they rant and rave about this kind of crap. It's kind of embarrassing to see armchair quarterbacks make brazen comments about things they know so obviously very little about.


This rant reminds me of something....

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2021-11-29 10:52:11 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: thornhill: Meanwhile in the U.S., we're scrubbing the history and legacy of enslavement from school curriculums.

So let's call it even.

you are a complete moron if you think that.


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/They revolted because Mexico banned slavery
//Only two Tejanos and one other Mexican signed the Texas Declaration of Independence
///The majority of signors immigrated into Mexico illegally
 
2021-11-29 10:52:20 AM  

GranoblasticMan: Ragin' Asian: [YouTube video: Family Guy; German tour bus]

That bit was such a tell that MacFarlane has never been to Germany, let alone Munich. Memorials were all over the place (and even on the ground you walk; e.g. the Rose Movement papers reproduced in some of the bricks/tiles near Marienplatz IIRC...)



Or it could just be a funny joke in a silly cartoon
 
2021-11-29 10:57:31 AM  

cew-smoke: It's easy for people outside of China to criticize this kind of thing. Any Disney or Disney adjacent company employees who do live there would be the ones who have to face the Chinese government. Terrible things can happen to them and their families. So I laugh pretty hard when people make a stink about this. It isn't Disney (or any other company) making this decision in a vacuum. It puts real people in real danger. It amazes me how many people conveniently forget that when they rant and rave about this kind of crap. It's kind of embarrassing to see armchair quarterbacks make brazen comments about things they know so obviously very little about.


Uhh we don't, and shouldn't, buckle to censorship pressure anywhere, least of which to a foreign country.
 
2021-11-29 10:57:43 AM  

thornhill: Meanwhile in the U.S., we're scrubbing the history and legacy of enslavement from school curriculums.

So let's call it even.


Right, we should not scrub away history in order for it to serve as a reminder of our past in order to change the future. People deserve to know exactly how slavery began in America so that we are never culturally bamboozled again.
 
2021-11-29 11:01:27 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: thornhill: Meanwhile in the U.S., we're scrubbing the history and legacy of enslavement from school curriculums.

So let's call it even.

you are a complete moron if you think that.


And Republicans will never actually outlaw abortion, it's too important a vote getter for them!
 
2021-11-29 11:08:25 AM  

Demetrius: I went to China a couple of years ago. We hired a guide to take us around. When we went to Tiananmen, I asked a question of her about protests of 1989 and she nearly fled in terror thinking we were government spies or something. You could see the fear in her eyes. She made it very clear that this was not something that we ever spoke about. Thankfully we didn't have anyone show up and take us away.


And just think, multiple Farkers are huge fans of their political system, because "not talking about banned topics out of sheer terror" looks an awful lot like "peaceful, confident societal consensus" from the outside.
 
2021-11-29 11:13:43 AM  

thornhill: Meanwhile in the U.S., we're scrubbing the history and legacy of enslavement from school curriculums.

So let's call it even.


You live in the south, don't you?
 
2021-11-29 11:14:17 AM  

Demetrius: I went to China a couple of years ago. We hired a guide to take us around. When we went to Tiananmen, I asked a question of her about protests of 1989 and she nearly fled in terror thinking we were government spies or something. You could see the fear in her eyes. She made it very clear that this was not something that we ever spoke about. Thankfully we didn't have anyone show up and take us away.

/csb


Do they really need a police state carefully controlling what people can say about their past sins? Can't they just have strong social taboos, biased text books, and foaming at the mouth crazy parents at PTAs to sweep that kinda stuff under the rug, like Japan does with WW2 atrocities or America with a whole bunch of racist stuff?
 
2021-11-29 11:16:01 AM  

MythDragon: So pull the entire episode, not cut 3 seconds of that one gag?


Seems sensible, as now there is something clearly missing that people can investigate on their own. If you just remove the gag it would be like nothing happened. I suspect the rest of the episode may have been objectionable as well.
 
2021-11-29 11:16:07 AM  
I find it absolutely hilarious that people are actually so ignorant about China as to be shocked by this.
 
2021-11-29 11:18:05 AM  
It's, Bort, you idiots.
 
2021-11-29 11:21:18 AM  

UNC_Samurai: What_Would_Jimi_Do: thornhill: Meanwhile in the U.S., we're scrubbing the history and legacy of enslavement from school curriculums.

So let's call it even.

you are a complete moron if you think that.

The proposals in Texas, a state that influences school curriculums around the country through its huge textbook market, amount to some of the most aggressive efforts to control the teaching of American history. And they come as nearly a dozen other Republican-led states seek to ban or limit how the role of slavery and pervasive effects of racism can be taught.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/edsource​.​org/2021/california-becomes-first-stat​e-to-require-ethnic-studies-in-high-sc​hool/662219/amp
 
2021-11-29 11:22:05 AM  

Dick Gozinya: cew-smoke: It's easy for people outside of China to criticize this kind of thing. Any Disney or Disney adjacent company employees who do live there would be the ones who have to face the Chinese government. Terrible things can happen to them and their families. So I laugh pretty hard when people make a stink about this. It isn't Disney (or any other company) making this decision in a vacuum. It puts real people in real danger. It amazes me how many people conveniently forget that when they rant and rave about this kind of crap. It's kind of embarrassing to see armchair quarterbacks make brazen comments about things they know so obviously very little about.

This rant reminds me of something....

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Get out of my head, dammit.
 
2021-11-29 11:23:47 AM  
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From the people who brought you this
 
2021-11-29 11:26:46 AM  

johnny_vegas: UNC_Samurai: What_Would_Jimi_Do: thornhill: Meanwhile in the U.S., we're scrubbing the history and legacy of enslavement from school curriculums.

So let's call it even.

you are a complete moron if you think that.

The proposals in Texas, a state that influences school curriculums around the country through its huge textbook market, amount to some of the most aggressive efforts to control the teaching of American history. And they come as nearly a dozen other Republican-led states seek to ban or limit how the role of slavery and pervasive effects of racism can be taught.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/edsource.​org/2021/california-becomes-first-stat​e-to-require-ethnic-studies-in-high-sc​hool/662219/amp


This is an article in the Houston Chronicle about how TX influence over text books is waning (from 2014):  https://www.houstonchronicle.​com/news/​houston-texas/education/article/Lone-S​tar-influence-on-textbooks-waning-nati​onwide-5921656.php

Is there new documentation that TX still wields significant influence over text books nationwide?  I think that is old news.
 
2021-11-29 11:31:15 AM  
America has been white-washing its history almost since day one, so, meh.
 
2021-11-29 11:50:33 AM  

cew-smoke: It's easy for people outside of China to criticize this kind of thing. Any Disney or Disney adjacent company employees who do live there would be the ones who have to face the Chinese government. Terrible things can happen to them and their families. So I laugh pretty hard when people make a stink about this. It isn't Disney (or any other company) making this decision in a vacuum. It puts real people in real danger. It amazes me how many people conveniently forget that when they rant and rave about this kind of crap. It's kind of embarrassing to see armchair quarterbacks make brazen comments about things they know so obviously very little about.


That was a poor excuse when the Nazis used it.
 
2021-11-29 11:50:38 AM  
I have family members fighting 2 different wars that were backed by communist China and Russia. My grandfather was a Marine and fought in WWII and Korea, I have two uncles that fought in Vietnam.

It is not bad enough that we have turned over all of our once massive manufacturing jobs and capability to China so a few hundred people can make insane profits. Now, we are censoring American produced media so American companies can increase profits selling to communist markets. And yes, I know we have been censoring movies, TV, magazines and other exports back and forth for decades, but that has almost always been moral censorship (nudity, sex, graphic violence profanity etc). Just remember that next time old Uncle Sam needs your kid to go off to die in a war so corporations can make bank in the aftermath.

/What's that now? Something, something US military, something Taiwan?
 
2021-11-29 11:59:31 AM  

Mock26: I find it absolutely hilarious that people are actually so ignorant about China as to be shocked by this.


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/ Welcome to Lake Laogai
 
2021-11-29 12:05:37 PM  

Jesterling: GranoblasticMan: Ragin' Asian: [YouTube video: Family Guy; German tour bus]

That bit was such a tell that MacFarlane has never been to Germany, let alone Munich. Memorials were all over the place (and even on the ground you walk; e.g. the Rose Movement papers reproduced in some of the bricks/tiles near Marienplatz IIRC...)


Or it could just be a funny joke in a silly cartoon


Because reinforcing stereotypes that have no basis in reality is hilarious. The whole skit relies on the "lol Germans don't want people to know about this," which is essentially the exact opposite of reality. May as well make a skit about how the US never admits to using nukes in Japan.
 
2021-11-29 12:31:55 PM  

sniderman: It was years before we saw this episode again, so <shrugs>.

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Such a great scene.
 
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