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2021-11-28 10:37:38 PM  
Dude's lost it. Gone full Boomer.
 
2021-11-28 10:44:06 PM  
F*ck Dave Chappelle. He's completely lost the plot.
 
2021-11-29 1:46:26 AM  
I didn't like this act much when Andy Kaufman tried it either.
 
2021-11-29 3:43:50 AM  
I rewatched the first episode of Chapelle's Show recently. It's the one with the Clayton Bigsby sketch. A true classic. He was smart, he was inventive, sharp and funny. It also struck me that he came across as a complete asshole.

At the time it was easy to overlook. It wasn't real, it was comedy. It wasn't him, it was a comedy persona. It was laughter through audacity, the same as when we laugh at Basil Fawlty's over the top callous and rude behaviour.

That was easy to assume because we didn't know anything about him in real life, only his comedy work. Social media hadn't given us insight into the person behind the performance. Now that I have seen that, I can't help but see the real asshole behind the comedy asshole.
 
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2021-11-29 4:05:41 AM  
Shame how he's become.  He had his finger on the pulse and something close to future sight, and it caused him to freak out.

I can't go all, "fark him!," but I wish he could use the genius he exhibited as a younger man to examine his position now.  Good luck to him
 
2021-11-29 5:09:35 AM  

NewportBarGuy: F*ck Dave Chappelle. He's completely lost the plot.


I have a trans kid.  I watched Closer expecting to hate it, but I did not.  I more felt sorry for him because of what you said-he's just lost the plot.  He was brilliant at one point and his recent comedy specials were pretty good IMHO.  The last two, though, he just keeps doubling down on his battle with trans folks.  Even worse than being offensive is that it isn't funny.  Talk about something, anything, else.
 
2021-11-29 6:14:28 AM  

LordBeavis: NewportBarGuy: F*ck Dave Chappelle. He's completely lost the plot.

I have a trans kid.  I watched Closer expecting to hate it, but I did not.  I more felt sorry for him because of what you said-he's just lost the plot.  He was brilliant at one point and his recent comedy specials were pretty good IMHO.  The last two, though, he just keeps doubling down on his battle with trans folks.  Even worse than being offensive is that it isn't funny.  Talk about something, anything, else.


Exactly. I love raw comedy that goes after everyone. There is some power in it and, you know, humor. He had that... none of what he is doing right now is comedy.

I was quick to give him a pass at the beginning because everyone has been too quick, in my opinion, to trash on comedians because of "feelings"... well, they were right to be angry and I was wrong to defend him. He's proven that multiple times with how he's acting and responding.

At a certain point there needs to be some self reflection and a "hey, you know what, I should not have approached it that way, let's talk about it and maybe both learn something together" moment. He's not having that at all and just pushing back more.

Hope someone slaps him out of it or he just has a moment of clarity or something because at this point, he can just f*ck off back to his farm in Ohio and stay there forever
 
2021-11-29 6:27:24 AM  

LordBeavis: NewportBarGuy: F*ck Dave Chappelle. He's completely lost the plot.

I have a trans kid.  I watched Closer expecting to hate it, but I did not.  I more felt sorry for him because of what you said-he's just lost the plot.  He was brilliant at one point and his recent comedy specials were pretty good IMHO.  The last two, though, he just keeps doubling down on his battle with trans folks.  Even worse than being offensive is that it isn't funny.  Talk about something, anything, else.


Ditto, and... ditto.  

Of course, he's not terribly relevant to kids today.  And I think he realizes that, and there's a bit of incredulousness in his routines because he's uncomfortable with being a has-been.  His career was launched on being the sharp, witty kid who made observations from being in two worlds, and he's aged and earned his way out of it.

Dave Chapelle grew up as the son of two very educated, politically connected parents. His family has been prominent in black universities for generations, and he grew up in the DC area, attending an elite performing arts academy in Georgetown.  When his parents split and his father moved to Dayton he split his time between DC and Dayton... his upbringing gave him a unique perspective, where he was able to have feet in multiple worlds:  he had contacts within the highest echelons of black society, wealthy white DC old-money families of Georgetown, poor black kids from the hood, poor whites of Ohio.  That's incredibly fertile ground for observational humor, and coming from a family that is both well educated and encouraging of the arts, he was perfectly positioned to leverage that fertile ground.

So, yeah, it's sad to see him now.  He could have aged into an absolutely beloved elder statesman of comedy.  He could have been the patron helping guys like Key and Peele navigate their fame instead of complaining about them taking his place.  Instead, his new shows just ooze grievances - he still thinks he's the fresh, fast-hitting, hyper-observant wunderkind, and time has moved on.  He thinks he's Bart Simpson, smirking with catchphrases, but he's actually an old man yelling at clouds.

Time gets the best of us all.
 
2021-11-29 7:13:15 AM  

Znuh: Dude's lost it. Gone full Boomer.


Dave Chappelle was born in the early 70s. Baby Boomers were born from 1945-1964.
 
2021-11-29 7:15:59 AM  
I'm embarrassed for him.
 
2021-11-29 7:18:20 AM  

stoli n coke: Znuh: Dude's lost it. Gone full Boomer.

Dave Chappelle was born in the early 70s. Baby Boomers were born from 1945-1964.


It's taken on a different meaning. People who are closed minded and holding onto how things were in the past rather than some birth group.
 
2021-11-29 7:21:44 AM  

Izunbacol: LordBeavis: NewportBarGuy: F*ck Dave Chappelle. He's completely lost the plot.

I have a trans kid.  I watched Closer expecting to hate it, but I did not.  I more felt sorry for him because of what you said-he's just lost the plot.  He was brilliant at one point and his recent comedy specials were pretty good IMHO.  The last two, though, he just keeps doubling down on his battle with trans folks.  Even worse than being offensive is that it isn't funny.  Talk about something, anything, else.

Ditto, and... ditto.  

Of course, he's not terribly relevant to kids today.  And I think he realizes that, and there's a bit of incredulousness in his routines because he's uncomfortable with being a has-been.  His career was launched on being the sharp, witty kid who made observations from being in two worlds, and he's aged and earned his way out of it.

Dave Chapelle grew up as the son of two very educated, politically connected parents. His family has been prominent in black universities for generations, and he grew up in the DC area, attending an elite performing arts academy in Georgetown.  When his parents split and his father moved to Dayton he split his time between DC and Dayton... his upbringing gave him a unique perspective, where he was able to have feet in multiple worlds:  he had contacts within the highest echelons of black society, wealthy white DC old-money families of Georgetown, poor black kids from the hood, poor whites of Ohio.  That's incredibly fertile ground for observational humor, and coming from a family that is both well educated and encouraging of the arts, he was perfectly positioned to leverage that fertile ground.

So, yeah, it's sad to see him now.  He could have aged into an absolutely beloved elder statesman of comedy.  He could have been the patron helping guys like Key and Peele navigate their fame instead of complaining about them taking his place.  Instead, his new shows just ooze grievances - he still thinks he's the fresh, fast-hitting, hyper-observant wunderkind, and time has moved on.  He thinks he's Bart Simpson, smirking with catchphrases, but he's actually an old man yelling at clouds.

Time gets the best of us all.


Point of clarification.

He lived in Yellow Springs. It's a hippie town built around a liberal arts college. The city of Dayton is almost an hour away.
 
2021-11-29 7:26:59 AM  
Chappelle is just a grumpy old comedian yelling at clouds. Same as Carlin. A seemingly bitter hatred for something the kids these days, and his view is the better one.

I hope Mr. Chappelle lives another 20 years, but when he finally kicks it, no one will not be proping up his angry old man stuff as anything less than "people get too offended".
 
2021-11-29 7:28:03 AM  

stoli n coke: Znuh: Dude's lost it. Gone full Boomer.

Dave Chappelle was born in the early 70s. Baby Boomers were born from 1945-1964.


Boomer isn't a date on a calendar - it's a state of mind.
The complacency that comes from always having belonged to a huge social majority that has always gotten it's own way.
The assurance that one's petty preferences are how "normal" people think.
That's "Boomer".
 
2021-11-29 7:29:44 AM  

Izunbacol: LordBeavis: NewportBarGuy: F*ck Dave Chappelle. He's completely lost the plot.

I have a trans kid.  I watched Closer expecting to hate it, but I did not.  I more felt sorry for him because of what you said-he's just lost the plot.  He was brilliant at one point and his recent comedy specials were pretty good IMHO.  The last two, though, he just keeps doubling down on his battle with trans folks.  Even worse than being offensive is that it isn't funny.  Talk about something, anything, else.

Ditto, and... ditto.  

Of course, he's not terribly relevant to kids today.  And I think he realizes that, and there's a bit of incredulousness in his routines because he's uncomfortable with being a has-been.  His career was launched on being the sharp, witty kid who made observations from being in two worlds, and he's aged and earned his way out of it.

Dave Chapelle grew up as the son of two very educated, politically connected parents. His family has been prominent in black universities for generations, and he grew up in the DC area, attending an elite performing arts academy in Georgetown.  When his parents split and his father moved to Dayton he split his time between DC and Dayton... his upbringing gave him a unique perspective, where he was able to have feet in multiple worlds:  he had contacts within the highest echelons of black society, wealthy white DC old-money families of Georgetown, poor black kids from the hood, poor whites of Ohio.  That's incredibly fertile ground for observational humor, and coming from a family that is both well educated and encouraging of the arts, he was perfectly positioned to leverage that fertile ground.

So, yeah, it's sad to see him now.  He could have aged into an absolutely beloved elder statesman of comedy.  He could have been the patron helping guys like Key and Peele navigate their fame instead of complaining about them taking his place.  Instead, his new shows just ooze grievances - he still thinks he's the fresh, fast-hitting, hyper-observant wunderkind, and time has moved on.  He thinks he's Bart Simpson, smirking with catchphrases, but he's actually an old man yelling at clouds.

Time gets the best of us all.


I have a bit of a nuance: Watch his first visits to Letterman.  Then simmer on his HBO specials.  Finely recall he left  a Comedy Central big money contract.
My take on all that, is he's always pooped on poor people.  He left CC because he realized people wasn't laughing at poors, but laughing at him.
Thus. I feel like a fool for being a fan.
He wasn't commenting on the police.  He was victim blaming the whole damn time.
fark him
 
2021-11-29 7:30:17 AM  
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2021-11-29 7:32:05 AM  
He's over there with Jim Breuer.
 
2021-11-29 7:32:08 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: Chappelle is just a grumpy old comedian yelling at clouds. Same as Carlin. A seemingly bitter hatred for something the kids these days, and his view is the better one.


Is there an actual example of this?  99% of the Carlin quote memes were never said by Carlin.
 
2021-11-29 7:33:50 AM  
Fark's Emmanuel Goldstein.
 
2021-11-29 7:34:06 AM  
Jesus christ, dude, just STFU.

It's embarrassing.
 
2021-11-29 7:34:48 AM  
It was amusing to see Dave push back against a bunch of whinging teenagers.  Poor babies, they heard a comedy routine and got offended.
 
2021-11-29 7:38:27 AM  

State_College_Arsonist: It was amusing to see Dave push back against a bunch of whinging teenagers.  Poor babies, they heard a comedy routine and got offended.


Ok, Boomer
 
2021-11-29 7:38:35 AM  

LordBeavis: NewportBarGuy: F*ck Dave Chappelle. He's completely lost the plot.

I have a trans kid.  I watched Closer expecting to hate it, but I did not.  I more felt sorry for him because of what you said-he's just lost the plot.  He was brilliant at one point and his recent comedy specials were pretty good IMHO.  The last two, though, he just keeps doubling down on his battle with trans folks.  Even worse than being offensive is that it isn't funny.  Talk about something, anything, else.


I have a trans kid, too. Dave can go fark himself.
 
2021-11-29 7:39:46 AM  

State_College_Arsonist: It was amusing to see Dave push back against a bunch of whinging teenagers.  Poor babies, they heard a comedy routine and got offended.


Oh yeah, he definitely came out of this looking good. Those stupid kiddos. How dare they confront the guy who is militantly unable to realize maybe he is approaching the reaction wrong?

I'm all for offending people with a purpose. He went after rich people, racists, white privilege, stupidity... all great targets and worthy of ridicule. But going after people this hard for their sexual/life choices that hurt no one?

It's just not funny. Not in any way he's doing it. It's sad. Punch up dammit. Punch up.
 
2021-11-29 7:41:48 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: Chappelle is just a grumpy old comedian yelling at clouds. Same as Carlin. A seemingly bitter hatred for something the kids these days, and his view is the better one.

I hope Mr. Chappelle lives another 20 years, but when he finally kicks it, no one will not be proping up his angry old man stuff as anything less than "people get too offended".


There are comedians who are intrinsically funny - Jonathan Winters could crack you up just sitting there.
Zero Mostel could kill you just folding a napkin.
But most comics are only as funny as their material.
And that includes some of the greats. like Bruce or Gregory.
Maybe Chappel has just run out of funny material.
Like Gallagher.
 
2021-11-29 7:42:28 AM  

Rapmaster2000: AppleOptionEsc: Chappelle is just a grumpy old comedian yelling at clouds. Same as Carlin. A seemingly bitter hatred for something the kids these days, and his view is the better one.

Is there an actual example of this?  99% of the Carlin quote memes were never said by Carlin.


I saw Carlin in Vegas a year or two before he died, and the whole show was a 90-minute grievance fest. All he did was gripe and b*tch about corporations and the government and how everything sucks all the time. And lots of it wasn't even in the form of jokes, Carlin was just stalking around on stage, spitting anger and resentment at the 8,000 people who'd paid $70 to $200 to see him be funny. His favorite criticism was to refer to someone as a "sellout," and this was after he'd appeared in a bunch of commercials for AT&T.

Chappelle will probably end up the same way: a bitter old man who other comics will eulogize with reverence, but no one wants to go see perform.
 
2021-11-29 7:42:43 AM  
"I've liked Chappelle for years. But now that he's said some things I don't like or maybe don't understand when taken out of context by some writer or editor, he's dead to me! And this scheme where people fund a school whether they like or hate what he's saying only proves he's an ass. The important thing is what I think and that I like every damn opinion and joke."
 
2021-11-29 7:43:06 AM  
Sounds like fark defending Star Wars or Marvel.
 
2021-11-29 7:44:59 AM  
I don't see the problem.
They came to him and asked for money for a theater. Offered to name it after him (schools need money).  He agreed. People complained because an aging comedian said something that offended them. He used the controversy to solicit even more money for the school (schools need money).
 
2021-11-29 7:46:19 AM  

jimjays: "I've liked Chappelle for years. But now that he's said some things I don't like or maybe don't understand when taken out of context by some writer or editor, he's dead to me! And this scheme where people fund a school whether they like or hate what he's saying only proves he's an ass. The important thing is what I think and that I like every damn opinion and joke."


Everyone is stupid but me and you.
 
2021-11-29 7:48:02 AM  
Uh, he's doing this to raise money for the school.
 
2021-11-29 7:48:55 AM  

NewportBarGuy: State_College_Arsonist: It was amusing to see Dave push back against a bunch of whinging teenagers.  Poor babies, they heard a comedy routine and got offended.

Oh yeah, he definitely came out of this looking good. Those stupid kiddos. How dare they confront the guy who is militantly unable to realize maybe he is approaching the reaction wrong?

I'm all for offending people with a purpose. He went after rich people, racists, white privilege, stupidity... all great targets and worthy of ridicule. But going after people this hard for their sexual/life choices that hurt no one?

It's just not funny. Not in any way he's doing it. It's sad. Punch up dammit. Punch up.


Advancing your political interests by limiting the scope of criticism to people and skin colors that you hate is not the point of comedy.  Everyone is and should be fodder for criticism.
 
2021-11-29 7:49:57 AM  

Rapmaster2000: AppleOptionEsc: Chappelle is just a grumpy old comedian yelling at clouds. Same as Carlin. A seemingly bitter hatred for something the kids these days, and his view is the better one.

Is there an actual example of this?  99% of the Carlin quote memes were never said by Carlin.


It would he hard to transcribe an entire special.

But from his "Politically Correct Language"

"The way I see it, this country has only four real victim groups: Indians, blacks, women and gays. I purposely left out the Spanish and Asians, because when you look at what happened to the Indians and the blacks, the Spanish and Asian people had a walk in the park. It's not even close. Not to downplay the shiat they've had to eat, but in about one hundred years the Spanish and Asians are going to be running this country, so they'll have plenty of chances to get even with the gray people."

https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/comedy/george-carlin-politically-correct-language/

The stuff Carlin goes on about can be picked apart as Bad Man as much as Chappelle. The thing he is in trouble for is such a small part of his bit before he had to talk about it and make it a big part. And now we get to discect it even more.
 
2021-11-29 7:56:38 AM  

yabun: They came to him and asked for money for a theater. Offered to name it after him (schools need money).  He agreed. People complained because an aging comedian said something that offended them. He used the controversy to solicit even more money for the school (schools need money).


Fair point.
 
2021-11-29 7:58:55 AM  
Sorry,folks - I am still not going to listen to and praise a "comedian" who isn't funny - especially not to defend his "freeze peach".
If the only defense you can offer for what you have to say is that you have the right to say it, I'm not interested in listening.
Every brainless asshole in this country who is spewing worthless excrement into the public dialogue has the "right" to do so.
Big deal.
 
2021-11-29 8:01:12 AM  

State_College_Arsonist: NewportBarGuy: State_College_Arsonist: It was amusing to see Dave push back against a bunch of whinging teenagers.  Poor babies, they heard a comedy routine and got offended.

Oh yeah, he definitely came out of this looking good. Those stupid kiddos. How dare they confront the guy who is militantly unable to realize maybe he is approaching the reaction wrong?

I'm all for offending people with a purpose. He went after rich people, racists, white privilege, stupidity... all great targets and worthy of ridicule. But going after people this hard for their sexual/life choices that hurt no one?

It's just not funny. Not in any way he's doing it. It's sad. Punch up dammit. Punch up.

Advancing your political interests by limiting the scope of criticism to people and skin colors that you hate is not the point of comedy.  Everyone is and should be fodder for criticism.


Everyone is... It's all in how you do it. It's not even his beliefs or how he did it in his show, it's how he's reacting to people who have a problem with it. If he wants to die on this hill, then fine. He's going to destroy his career and legacy in doing so. That's his right. People don't need to agree with it.

This has less to do with political beliefs than it does with how you treat people. You can mock and ridicule anyone and everyone, but if you genuinely hurt people and they come to you to say so, acting like a complete dick is generally not the way to handle it.

Within reason. If a bunch of Nazis came and told him how they felt sad about his black white supremacist skit and they cried and moaned... they can just f*ck right off. A bunch of kids who are already feeling shame and ridicule in a difficult period in their life? I mean if you can't see the difference then that is on you.
 
2021-11-29 8:02:41 AM  

jimjays: "I've liked Chappelle for years. But now that he's said some things I don't like or maybe don't understand when taken out of context by some writer or editor, he's dead to me! And this scheme where people fund a school whether they like or hate what he's saying only proves he's an ass. The important thing is what I think and that I like every damn opinion and joke."


Okay, J.K. Rowling.
 
2021-11-29 8:03:03 AM  

Rapmaster2000: AppleOptionEsc: Chappelle is just a grumpy old comedian yelling at clouds. Same as Carlin. A seemingly bitter hatred for something the kids these days, and his view is the better one.

Is there an actual example of this?  99% of the Carlin quote memes were never said by Carlin.


Carlin, towards the end, was pretty bitter and angry, and while less funny, was no less insightful. The man was brilliant in his observations and ability to speak truth to power. I watched him live, and it was a phenomenal experience, but you could tell that he was tired of the vast majority of humanity.

Chapelle just doesn't have the ability to back down, for whatever reason, but his fall from grace to irrelevance is a teachable moment for others. Don't punch down.
 
2021-11-29 8:05:13 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Punch up dammit. Punch up.


It's like Stewart Lee said, "Was it funny? No, but I agreed the fark out of it."
 
2021-11-29 8:06:31 AM  

jimjays: "I've liked Chappelle for years. But now that he's said some things I don't like or maybe don't understand when taken out of context by some writer or editor, he's dead to me! And this scheme where people fund a school whether they like or hate what he's saying only proves he's an ass. The important thing is what I think and that I like every damn opinion and joke."


"I need more straw for the anti-Dave fannequin I've created!"
 
2021-11-29 8:09:48 AM  

TheJoe03: Uh, he's doing this to raise money for the school.


Raising money for some rich white people's theater school makes anything he says praiseworthy?
 
2021-11-29 8:10:26 AM  

smileyphase: Carlin, towards the end, was pretty bitter and angry, and while less funny, was no less insightful.


So was my dad and so are many smart people who have watched society in America decline into the cesspool in which we currently reside.

It's been year after year of topping how f*cking depressing and pathetic we can be. I mean, at a certain point you have to step back and focus on your family and the good things in life because if you constantly look at the big picture of what corporations and political parties are doing to us... yeah, you become a hateful, crabby old f*ck.

I think he became a victim of his own act... consumed by all of the negative things he was pointing out and riffing on. It's a warning sign for all of us that we can be consumed by negativity if we stew in it all day for our entire lives.
 
2021-11-29 8:11:06 AM  

jso2897: TheJoe03: Uh, he's doing this to raise money for the school.

Raising money for some rich white people's theater school makes anything he says praiseworthy?


He's giving $1k for every dead puppy someone will give him to drag behind his car.
 
2021-11-29 8:13:38 AM  

jso2897: TheJoe03: Uh, he's doing this to raise money for the school.

Raising money for some rich white people's theater school makes anything he says praiseworthy?


Correction - rich and upper middle class black people's theater school.
Not that it makes any difference.
 
2021-11-29 8:15:01 AM  

jso2897: TheJoe03: Uh, he's doing this to raise money for the school.

Raising money for some rich white people's theater school makes anything he says praiseworthy?


Did I say that? Just think it's a bit weird people are mad at this specific story. The hysterics of it all is a bit amusing as well.
 
2021-11-29 8:15:07 AM  

NewportBarGuy: smileyphase: Carlin, towards the end, was pretty bitter and angry, and while less funny, was no less insightful.

So was my dad and so are many smart people who have watched society in America decline into the cesspool in which we currently reside.

It's been year after year of topping how f*cking depressing and pathetic we can be. I mean, at a certain point you have to step back and focus on your family and the good things in life because if you constantly look at the big picture of what corporations and political parties are doing to us... yeah, you become a hateful, crabby old f*ck.

I think he became a victim of his own act... consumed by all of the negative things he was pointing out and riffing on. It's a warning sign for all of us that we can be consumed by negativity if we stew in it all day for our entire lives.


Or, maybe he just ran out of funny material. Comedians do that.
 
2021-11-29 8:16:01 AM  

jso2897: jso2897: TheJoe03: Uh, he's doing this to raise money for the school.

Raising money for some rich white people's theater school makes anything he says praiseworthy?

Correction - rich and upper middle class black people's theater school.
Not that it makes any difference.


fark them kids, lol
 
2021-11-29 8:18:25 AM  

TheJoe03: jso2897: TheJoe03: Uh, he's doing this to raise money for the school.

Raising money for some rich white people's theater school makes anything he says praiseworthy?

Did I say that? Just think it's a bit weird people are mad at this specific story. The hysterics of it all is a bit amusing as well.


Well, using terms like "mad" and "hysterics" to describe other people's expression of their views is a tactic. So, you aren't being an honest person either - as you just revealed.
In actual honest reality, the people expressing views opposed to yours in this thread are no more "mad" or "hysterical" than you are. They are just expressing views you don't care for.
Try proving your point without name calling or lying.
 
2021-11-29 8:19:50 AM  

TheJoe03: jso2897: jso2897: TheJoe03: Uh, he's doing this to raise money for the school.

Raising money for some rich white people's theater school makes anything he says praiseworthy?

Correction - rich and upper middle class black people's theater school.
Not that it makes any difference.

fark them kids, lol


Okay - so the "fundraising" excuse covers all? Or not? State your position clearly.
 
2021-11-29 8:22:16 AM  

jso2897: TheJoe03: jso2897: TheJoe03: Uh, he's doing this to raise money for the school.

Raising money for some rich white people's theater school makes anything he says praiseworthy?

Did I say that? Just think it's a bit weird people are mad at this specific story. The hysterics of it all is a bit amusing as well.

Well, using terms like "mad" and "hysterics" to describe other people's expression of their views is a tactic. So, you aren't being an honest person either - as you just revealed.
In actual honest reality, the people expressing views opposed to yours in this thread are no more "mad" or "hysterical" than you are. They are just expressing views you don't care for.
Try proving your point without name calling or lying.


It's definitely not that serious, but you did start this by putting words in my mouth. I just said he was using this to raise money for a school and you made up in your head that I said that means everything he said was praiseworthy. I neither lied or name called, but you actually did lie yourself, that how our conversation was initiated by you. Get it together bruh bruh.
 
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