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2021-11-28 9:31:52 PM  
He's just so damn clever. I mean, all those years of work to infiltrate the NIH, all those credentials that he had to fake interest in, then sneaking in to be a health advisor to Reagan, to Bush, and then GW, all those medical journals he ground through, all that research into AIDS, then Ebola, all those treatments that he helped pioneer,  all to get in good with Obama to UNLEASH his master plan to computer chip the whole US! That is some Next Level villainy. I mean, how many people could work with three Republican Administrations, all to get the Democrats into position to 'vaccinate' a nation from some pretend China-virus? Decades of planning, all to be uncovered by a guy who has gone through bankruptcy more times than he's been married?

You'd think Republicans and the Idiot Brigade would respect his game face. If he faked all that to get a needle in your arm to give you mind control drugs, why haven't they been clamoring for him to be put in charge of the NSA?

Deep down inside, I think that the only way to get the Stoopids to line up for their vaccine is to put it into little blue pills or chews to fight erectile dysfunction. Then you couldn't stop these bastiches from ordering three and four times rounds, every few months. Well, that and maybe sliding doses into Chardonnay and Rose, you know, for the ladies.
 
2021-11-28 9:39:05 PM  
I think if you left blow dart guns filled with vaccine lying around, the red necks would end up vaccinated.

/leave a couple of cases of Bud to speed up the process.
 
2021-11-28 9:40:15 PM  
It would be easy to get them vaccinated. Have Joe come out and say that they can't have it.

They are so contrary, they will do it just to own the libs.

Or better yet, come up with a "Trump" vaccine that tattoos their body with let's go Brandon and vaccinates them at the same time.
 
2021-11-28 10:34:05 PM  
Just let them die off
 
2021-11-28 10:38:08 PM  

vudukungfu: Just let them die off


It only kills a few of them, relatively speaking. 98-99% survival is plenty high enough for survivorship bias to convince them they were right. Their end goal is just to keep everything farked long enough to convince us it's all Biden's fault.
 
2021-11-28 11:23:22 PM  
tony fauci is very nearly 81 years old (he's an xmas eve baby), he's advised 7 different presidents, he's been married to the same person for over 35 years, he has no motives to lie about covid and no more farks to give.

he's just here for the science. and he's here for america. he wants us to live and to be better, more educated people.

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so remember that anyone you hear personally attacking him, or using BS phrases like "fauci ouchie" in general conversation is a frightened fool.

they CAN'T attack the science, they're not smart enough for that, so they attack a man. when they tire of attacking him they switch to biden or a local official.

but remember these people are frightened and weak. and deep in their hearts they know they aren't very smart. cut them out of your lives, if you haven't already. they cannot be "changed" they can not be "saved" -they'd need to abandon parts of their identity to do that, and doing THAT requires courage. and they have none.
 
2021-11-28 11:46:37 PM  
"It's easy to criticize, but they're really criticizing science because I represent science. That's dangerous,"

Sounds like someone's been spending a little too much time reading his own press releases.
 
2021-11-29 12:10:28 AM  
I was hoping they would never respond to anything maga folks said about Dr Fauci but they did and now this is in the news cycle 🤦🏻♂

In either case fk that reptile Ted Cruz.
 
2021-11-29 12:10:34 AM  

EvilEgg: I think if you left blow dart guns filled with vaccine lying around, the red necks would end up vaccinated.

/leave a couple of cases of Bud to speed up the process.


Yeah, give them Bud. Don't waste any real beer on them.
 
2021-11-29 12:11:25 AM  
Contempt of science should be a criminal offense; instead it's the Republican platform
 
2021-11-29 12:15:31 AM  
They have degrees to back it up. So don't trust everything you hear from the scientists.  Sheesh guys, stop being such sheep.

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2021-11-29 12:18:25 AM  
Guys a goddamn hero imo
 
2021-11-29 12:23:24 AM  
Against my better judgement, I began participating in a COVID-19 discussion with a group of Conservatives. It wasn't quite as bad as it could have been, but it's bad in a way I didn't expect. They claim, to a person, that President Trump took COVID seriously from the start, and the Democrats were the ones who called it a hoax in order to help the impeachment efforts. That's not quite how I remember things, and when I said so, I was called - for real and without irony - a demonrat. Now I don't mind being called names. It's kind of funny, actually. But where on Earth did they get this idea?
 
2021-11-29 12:24:21 AM  
My hands are so farked up from all the washing and sanitizing. My knuckles are all cracked and bloody like I beat the stuffing out of a dozen plague rats. I didn't, though. Not as of yet.
 
2021-11-29 12:25:00 AM  
How can anyone wave the flag over the graves of 777,000 dead Americans and yap about their rights?
 
2021-11-29 12:31:40 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Against my better judgement, I began participating in a COVID-19 discussion with a group of Conservatives. It wasn't quite as bad as it could have been, but it's bad in a way I didn't expect. They claim, to a person, that President Trump took COVID seriously from the start, and the Democrats were the ones who called it a hoax in order to help the impeachment efforts. That's not quite how I remember things, and when I said so, I was called - for real and without irony - a demonrat. Now I don't mind being called names. It's kind of funny, actually. But where on Earth did they get this idea?


They're kookoo, dude. Totally out of their minds. Trying to understand anything about them will at best waste your time, at worst slingshot you down a water slide from hell and straight into a pool of unimaginable insanity where you'll drown in your own thorough and absolute madness.
 
2021-11-29 12:32:16 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Against my better judgement, I began participating in a COVID-19 discussion with a group of Conservatives. It wasn't quite as bad as it could have been, but it's bad in a way I didn't expect. They claim, to a person, that President Trump took COVID seriously from the start, and the Democrats were the ones who called it a hoax in order to help the impeachment efforts. That's not quite how I remember things, and when I said so, I was called - for real and without irony - a demonrat. Now I don't mind being called names. It's kind of funny, actually. But where on Earth did they get this idea?


In my last online discussion with one I was called a pedophile. I thought that's what we all are now. Demonrat is sooo last year.
 
2021-11-29 12:35:34 AM  
My respect for the man has gone up.  Again.

I mean, it's been kind of on a rollercoaster, truthfully, but this was not just good, it was gratifying.
 
2021-11-29 12:36:44 AM  
Oh, and...

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2021-11-29 12:36:57 AM  

Skeleton Man: The Why Not Guy: Against my better judgement, I began participating in a COVID-19 discussion with a group of Conservatives. It wasn't quite as bad as it could have been, but it's bad in a way I didn't expect. They claim, to a person, that President Trump took COVID seriously from the start, and the Democrats were the ones who called it a hoax in order to help the impeachment efforts. That's not quite how I remember things, and when I said so, I was called - for real and without irony - a demonrat. Now I don't mind being called names. It's kind of funny, actually. But where on Earth did they get this idea?

They're kookoo, dude. Totally out of their minds. Trying to understand anything about them will at best waste your time, at worst slingshot you down a water slide from hell and straight into a pool of unimaginable insanity where you'll drown in your own thorough and absolute madness.


No kidding. I found this jewel recently. I have no idea what it means.

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2021-11-29 12:36:58 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Against my better judgement, I began participating in a COVID-19 discussion with a group of Conservatives. It wasn't quite as bad as it could have been, but it's bad in a way I didn't expect. They claim, to a person, that President Trump took COVID seriously from the start, and the Democrats were the ones who called it a hoax in order to help the impeachment efforts. That's not quite how I remember things, and when I said so, I was called - for real and without irony - a demonrat. Now I don't mind being called names. It's kind of funny, actually. But where on Earth did they get this idea?


It's what they've been told to believe. They've been brainwashed.

My dad let himself be brainwashed. He no longer has thoughts of his own. He's a robot, programmed to spew right-wing lies. It's all he knows how to do. It's almost like he's suffered a brain injury. I quit talking to him, and I've decided to just think of him as being dead. Because the person that my dad used to be *is* dead. Replaced by this hateful, ignorant, brainless creature.
 
2021-11-29 12:38:07 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Against my better judgement, I began participating in a COVID-19 discussion with a group of Conservatives. It wasn't quite as bad as it could have been, but it's bad in a way I didn't expect. They claim, to a person, that President Trump took COVID seriously from the start, and the Democrats were the ones who called it a hoax in order to help the impeachment efforts. That's not quite how I remember things, and when I said so, I was called - for real and without irony - a demonrat. Now I don't mind being called names. It's kind of funny, actually. But where on Earth did they get this idea?


They believe 1) that the virus is a hoax, 2) Trump took it seriously from the start, 3) Democrats caused problems by not taking it seriously, 4) it has caused no deaths, 5) that Trump gave us a vaccine, 6) that the vaccine is what is causing the deaths, 7) that no one gives Trump credit for the vaccine, 8) the vaccine is evil and created by Fauci/Bill Gates

They are utterly bonkers.

Even 'normal' conservatives are people trying to normalize Trump and "find the good in him."
 
2021-11-29 12:42:00 AM  
I bet these assholes believe they could herd cats too.
 
2021-11-29 12:44:57 AM  

Naido: "It's easy to criticize, but they're really criticizing science because I represent science. That's dangerous,"

Sounds like someone's been spending a little too much time reading his own press releases.


Your really trying to misinterpret what he was saying.

He was saying that they would look bad by attacking the science so they were turning him into a villain instead which would be easier.

Not surprised you are trying to help them.
 
2021-11-29 12:46:10 AM  
Dr. Fauci knows a great deal about fighting infectious diseases. The Flim Flam Führer knows nothing about this topic. Neither does Biden, but Biden has had the good sense to trust the experts on his team.
 
2021-11-29 12:47:36 AM  

The Why Not Guy: They claim, to a person, that President Trump took COVID seriously from the start


I assume to a person that these people have a hierarchy of things they care about, and stopping immigration is #1 or #2 behind stopping abortion.

I'd bet money that they think Trump acted on COVID because of travel bans he enacted, nothing to do with anything up to and including vaccine response.
 
2021-11-29 12:49:41 AM  

saturn badger: Skeleton Man: The Why Not Guy: Against my better judgement, I began participating in a COVID-19 discussion with a group of Conservatives. It wasn't quite as bad as it could have been, but it's bad in a way I didn't expect. They claim, to a person, that President Trump took COVID seriously from the start, and the Democrats were the ones who called it a hoax in order to help the impeachment efforts. That's not quite how I remember things, and when I said so, I was called - for real and without irony - a demonrat. Now I don't mind being called names. It's kind of funny, actually. But where on Earth did they get this idea?

They're kookoo, dude. Totally out of their minds. Trying to understand anything about them will at best waste your time, at worst slingshot you down a water slide from hell and straight into a pool of unimaginable insanity where you'll drown in your own thorough and absolute madness.

No kidding. I found this jewel recently. I have no idea what it means.

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That's a well-polished glistening turd for sure.

The Poeslaw Window has moved to the point where there's no uncertainty about this one's sincerity.
 
2021-11-29 12:50:24 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Against my better judgement, I began participating in a COVID-19 discussion with a group of Conservatives. It wasn't quite as bad as it could have been, but it's bad in a way I didn't expect. They claim, to a person, that President Trump took COVID seriously from the start, and the Democrats were the ones who called it a hoax in order to help the impeachment efforts. That's not quite how I remember things, and when I said so, I was called - for real and without irony - a demonrat. Now I don't mind being called names. It's kind of funny, actually. But where on Earth did they get this idea?


Exactly how bad could it have been that that's not "quite as bad as it could have been"?
 
2021-11-29 12:51:04 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: 5) that Trump gave us a vaccine, .... 7) that no one gives Trump credit for the vaccine, 8)


See, that's just it.

I DON'T think most Trumpers agree with those two points, otherwise they'd be touting them regularly. For better or worse, Trumpers I've read about or encountered largely IGNORE the vaccine except to shiat on it. They almost want to pretend like he wasn't even President when it rolled out.
 
2021-11-29 12:51:26 AM  
Dr Birx 'Yes, we'll, maybe injecting bleach might help'

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2021-11-29 12:52:42 AM  

puffy999: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: 5) that Trump gave us a vaccine, .... 7) that no one gives Trump credit for the vaccine, 8)

See, that's just it.

I DON'T think most Trumpers agree with those two points, otherwise they'd be touting them regularly. For better or worse, Trumpers I've read about or encountered largely IGNORE the vaccine except to shiat on it. They almost want to pretend like he wasn't even President when it rolled out.


Just like Obama was blamed for the stock market crash, Hurricane Katrina and 9/11, Biden is entirely to blame for COVID and every other thing Trump farked up.
 
2021-11-29 12:53:39 AM  

bughunter: saturn badger: Skeleton Man: The Why Not Guy: Against my better judgement, I began participating in a COVID-19 discussion with a group of Conservatives. It wasn't quite as bad as it could have been, but it's bad in a way I didn't expect. They claim, to a person, that President Trump took COVID seriously from the start, and the Democrats were the ones who called it a hoax in order to help the impeachment efforts. That's not quite how I remember things, and when I said so, I was called - for real and without irony - a demonrat. Now I don't mind being called names. It's kind of funny, actually. But where on Earth did they get this idea?

They're kookoo, dude. Totally out of their minds. Trying to understand anything about them will at best waste your time, at worst slingshot you down a water slide from hell and straight into a pool of unimaginable insanity where you'll drown in your own thorough and absolute madness.

No kidding. I found this jewel recently. I have no idea what it means.

[Fark user image 587x589]

That's a well-polished glistening turd for sure.

The Poeslaw Window has moved to the point where there's no uncertainty about this one's sincerity.


Or sanity even.
 
2021-11-29 12:57:59 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: The Why Not Guy: Against my better judgement, I began participating in a COVID-19 discussion with a group of Conservatives. It wasn't quite as bad as it could have been, but it's bad in a way I didn't expect. They claim, to a person, that President Trump took COVID seriously from the start, and the Democrats were the ones who called it a hoax in order to help the impeachment efforts. That's not quite how I remember things, and when I said so, I was called - for real and without irony - a demonrat. Now I don't mind being called names. It's kind of funny, actually. But where on Earth did they get this idea?

They believe 1) that the virus is a hoax, 2) Trump took it seriously from the start, 3) Democrats caused problems by not taking it seriously, 4) it has caused no deaths, 5) that Trump gave us a vaccine, 6) that the vaccine is what is causing the deaths, 7) that no one gives Trump credit for the vaccine, 8) the vaccine is evil and created by Fauci/Bill Gates

They are utterly bonkers.

Even 'normal' conservatives are people trying to normalize Trump and "find the good in him."


It's doublethink. 1984 is being used as a "how-to" guide
 
2021-11-29 1:02:28 AM  

hubiestubert: He's just so damn clever. I mean, all those years of work to infiltrate the NIH, all those credentials that he had to fake interest in, then sneaking in to be a health advisor to Reagan, to Bush, and then GW, all those medical journals he ground through, all that research into AIDS, then Ebola, all those treatments that he helped pioneer,  all to get in good with Obama to UNLEASH his master plan to computer chip the whole US! That is some Next Level villainy. I mean, how many people could work with three Republican Administrations, all to get the Democrats into position to 'vaccinate' a nation from some pretend China-virus? Decades of planning, all to be uncovered by a guy who has gone through bankruptcy more times than he's been married?

You'd think Republicans and the Idiot Brigade would respect his game face. If he faked all that to get a needle in your arm to give you mind control drugs, why haven't they been clamoring for him to be put in charge of the NSA?

Deep down inside, I think that the only way to get the Stoopids to line up for their vaccine is to put it into little blue pills or chews to fight erectile dysfunction. Then you couldn't stop these bastiches from ordering three and four times rounds, every few months. Well, that and maybe sliding doses into Chardonnay and Rose, you know, for the ladies.


You just slip it in their can of dip - they'll never notice
 
2021-11-29 1:05:24 AM  
I'm not going to be around here forever, but science is going to be here forever.

Not if people like Ted Cruz have anything to say about it, and as long as being an asshole still buys his family trips to Cancun he is going to have a lot to say about it. If you want to know how much it costs to hire a Harvard Law graduate to spit in the face of science just take a look at the net worth of Ted Cruz.
 
2021-11-29 1:05:29 AM  

Skeleton Man: My hands are so farked up from all the washing and sanitizing. My knuckles are all cracked and bloody like I beat the stuffing out of a dozen plague rats. I didn't, though. Not as of yet.


I gave up on the obsessive handwashing early. Covid is airborne. Fomites just really aren't much of a factor in its spread. Good mask, avoid indoor situations. Especially since vaccines, I just haven't been worried about keeping my hands spotless.
 
2021-11-29 1:09:54 AM  
Republicans, the party of "we should teach creationism", "climate change isn't real" and "covid will disappear very shortly" simply do not get to make any substantive or authoritative claims about science.
 
2021-11-29 1:54:44 AM  
Well, I accidentally clicked on the link in the article that took me to Rafael the Canadian's Twitter page. Evidently, the new twist is that Omicron is no big deal and it's there as a distraction since Ghiselle Maxwell's trial is just about to begin and of course it was mostly left wingers who were pervs with Epstein. Even though all the info says it was a pretty health amount of pervs from both left and right wings.
Oh and also something about Australia and the 2nd amendment. Yeah, congressboy No-Brains "wheels" Sexual Harrasser suggests that if anyone asks about why we have the 2nd amendment, just respond with "Australia." I don't get it myself since Australians have tons of shotguns and rifles. Plus I don't know what's going on there right now other than some more biatching about masks, lock downs, and vaccines.
So, in short, more lunacy.
 
2021-11-29 2:07:07 AM  

dv-ous: vudukungfu: Just let them die off

It only kills a few of them, relatively speaking. 98-99% survival is plenty high enough for survivorship bias to convince them they were right. Their end goal is just to keep everything farked long enough to convince us it's all Biden's fault.


And they will never reverse the math to realize that means 4 to 8 million dead in the USA
 
2021-11-29 2:18:10 AM  

cheap_thoughts: I bet these assholes believe they could herd cats too.


It's easy to herd cats.

If they're dead...
 
2021-11-29 2:29:00 AM  

DemonEater: Skeleton Man: My hands are so farked up from all the washing and sanitizing. My knuckles are all cracked and bloody like I beat the stuffing out of a dozen plague rats. I didn't, though. Not as of yet.

I gave up on the obsessive handwashing early. Covid is airborne. Fomites just really aren't much of a factor in its spread. Good mask, avoid indoor situations. Especially since vaccines, I just haven't been worried about keeping my hands spotless.


Sounds nice. Unfortunately I've had a particularly obsessive form of obsessive compulsive disorder, largely manifesting as germaphobia, for decades. The pandemic kicked it into turbo mode. I can't stop.

/I'm basically Adrian Monk
 
2021-11-29 2:41:44 AM  

Airius: dv-ous: vudukungfu: Just let them die off

It only kills a few of them, relatively speaking. 98-99% survival is plenty high enough for survivorship bias to convince them they were right. Their end goal is just to keep everything farked long enough to convince us it's all Biden's fault.

And they will never reverse the math to realize that means 4 to 8 million dead in the USA


They were told there would be no math.
 
2021-11-29 3:00:24 AM  

luna1580: tony fauci is very nearly 81 years old (he's an xmas eve baby), he's advised 7 different presidents, he's been married to the same person for over 35 years, he has no motives to lie about covid and no more farks to give.

he's just here for the science. and he's here for america. he wants us to live and to be better, more educated people.

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so remember that anyone you hear personally attacking him, or using BS phrases like "fauci ouchie" in general conversation is a frightened fool.

they CAN'T attack the science, they're not smart enough for that, so they attack a man. when they tire of attacking him they switch to biden or a local official.

but remember these people are frightened and weak. and deep in their hearts they know they aren't very smart. cut them out of your lives, if you haven't already. they cannot be "changed" they can not be "saved" -they'd need to abandon parts of their identity to do that, and doing THAT requires courage. and they have none.


When I stumble onto a comments section where people are bashing him, it's just jarring.
 
2021-11-29 4:19:37 AM  

KodosZardoz: Well, I accidentally clicked on the link in the article that took me to Rafael the Canadian's Twitter page. Evidently, the new twist is that Omicron is no big deal and it's there as a distraction since Ghiselle Maxwell's trial is just about to begin and of course it was mostly left wingers who were pervs with Epstein. Even though all the info says it was a pretty health amount of pervs from both left and right wings.
Oh and also something about Australia and the 2nd amendment. Yeah, congressboy No-Brains "wheels" Sexual Harrasser suggests that if anyone asks about why we have the 2nd amendment, just respond with "Australia." I don't get it myself since Australians have tons of shotguns and rifles. Plus I don't know what's going on there right now other than some more biatching about masks, lock downs, and vaccines.
So, in short, more lunacy.


While the science isn't in yet, I've seen a couple of preliminary articles that indicate that Omicron might not, in fact, be the boogeyman. Canned hams like Cruz are just trying to get out in front of that so that they can say "See, we were right all along, therefore everyone is a Communist." Or something.
 
2021-11-29 5:23:01 AM  
Ted Cruz represents everything which is wrong in our country. I would find it difficult to find a worse senator than him. I can't even make jokes about him because everybody else looks better by comparison.
 
2021-11-29 5:45:20 AM  

Valter: Ted Cruz represents everything which is wrong in our country. I would find it difficult to find a worse senator than him. I can't even make jokes about him because everybody else looks better by comparison.


The only "constituency" he needs is the Kochs, Mercers, Sinclairs, Waltons etc who can finance any publicity campaign, with any sort of spin on a narrative they want to, completely free of scrutiny that they do not themselves control.
 
2021-11-29 5:50:00 AM  
Dumb people can't remember. Smart people choose not to. It's like when Hannity or whoever was "pondering" on how terrible it would have been if we'd treated AIDS patients back in the day like he imagines antivaxxers are being treated now: as pariahs and infectious scum who brought all their suffering on themselves and who ought to be quarantined in big camps outside of cities and left to die; instead of with compassion and love.

In an ideal world, anyone who heard that would leap over the desk and pound Hannity's head with a big hammer, and start handing hammers out to those who insist that "Trump took the pandemic seriously from the start, he never said it would be down to zero by March [2020]", but alas this isn't an ideal world and we just have to smile and nod.
 
2021-11-29 6:00:45 AM  

Corvus: Naido: "It's easy to criticize, but they're really criticizing science because I represent science. That's dangerous,"

Sounds like someone's been spending a little too much time reading his own press releases.

Your really trying to misinterpret what he was saying.

He was saying that they would look bad by attacking the science so they were turning him into a villain instead which would be easier.

Not surprised you are trying to help them.


Folks, no one cares what anyone says on Fark.  Thank goodness.  Nearly everyone is already ignoring Twitter, a much more influential (sadly) site.

We're not helping anyone.  Trying to maintain message discipline, for free (ya fools), for people who don't know you exist, is only going to lead to a complete lack of intellectual integrity.

I think he's mostly fine.  But he's going to come up with a new definition of "gain of function" every 3 weeks.  And I'm pretty sure most Americans wouldn't be ok with this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vani​t​yfair.com/news/2021/10/nih-admits-fund​ing-risky-virus-research-in-wuhan/amp

(From those crazy antivaxxers at VF, obviously trying to help "them").  That's why he goes from patiently explaining to name-calling when it comes up.  He's a politician, and a very skilled one.  He isn't "science".

If we've lost the ability to have even conversations like this one, then "they" already won, and *you're* helping "them".

Once more:  everyone can tell this is a tribe.  You're not influencing anyone and neither am I.  It's a gathering place for a back-slapping society.
 
2021-11-29 6:30:17 AM  

Skeleton Man: The Why Not Guy: Against my better judgement, I began participating in a COVID-19 discussion with a group of Conservatives. It wasn't quite as bad as it could have been, but it's bad in a way I didn't expect. They claim, to a person, that President Trump took COVID seriously from the start, and the Democrats were the ones who called it a hoax in order to help the impeachment efforts. That's not quite how I remember things, and when I said so, I was called - for real and without irony - a demonrat. Now I don't mind being called names. It's kind of funny, actually. But where on Earth did they get this idea?

They're kookoo, dude. Totally out of their minds. Trying to understand anything about them will at best waste your time, at worst slingshot you down a water slide from hell and straight into a pool of unimaginable insanity where you'll drown in your own thorough and absolute madness.


"Don't try to understand them; and don't try to make them understand you. For they are a breed apart and make no sense."
 
2021-11-29 6:32:25 AM  

Naido: Corvus: Naido: "It's easy to criticize, but they're really criticizing science because I represent science. That's dangerous,"

Sounds like someone's been spending a little too much time reading his own press releases.

Your really trying to misinterpret what he was saying.

He was saying that they would look bad by attacking the science so they were turning him into a villain instead which would be easier.

Not surprised you are trying to help them.

Folks, no one cares what anyone says on Fark.  Thank goodness.  Nearly everyone is already ignoring Twitter, a much more influential (sadly) site.

We're not helping anyone.  Trying to maintain message discipline, for free (ya fools), for people who don't know you exist, is only going to lead to a complete lack of intellectual integrity.

I think he's mostly fine.  But he's going to come up with a new definition of "gain of function" every 3 weeks.  And I'm pretty sure most Americans wouldn't be ok with this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanit​yfair.com/news/2021/10/nih-admits-fund​ing-risky-virus-research-in-wuhan/amp

(From those crazy antivaxxers at VF, obviously trying to help "them").  That's why he goes from patiently explaining to name-calling when it comes up.  He's a politician, and a very skilled one.  He isn't "science".

If we've lost the ability to have even conversations like this one, then "they" already won, and *you're* helping "them".

Once more:  everyone can tell this is a tribe.  You're not influencing anyone and neither am I.  It's a gathering place for a back-slapping society.


What other categorization can they be classified into other than lunatics, reactionaries, book-burners and deliberately stupid assholes?

They "oppose" because anything that comes up, anything founded in deeper scholarship, study and the obsession with development of actuality of fact is anethema to their own obsessions with ghosts, spirits, and the possibility that random events can occur in the world outside of the deliberate control of some unknowable and mysterious entity that they must believe in at any and all costs to themselves.

Especially when those costs include stepping away from the belief system that they were literally tortured into believing from the moment they were born.
 
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