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(Guardian)   Want to know the real rea$on$ why Manchin and $inema are being problem$ in the $enate?   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2021-11-28 8:08:15 AM  
No sh*t.
 
2021-11-28 8:14:56 AM  

hubiestubert: No sh*t.


You were supposed to say "no shiat"

/ party foul
 
2021-11-28 8:21:11 AM  
If we do not overturn Citizens United this country is doomed.
 
2021-11-28 8:58:39 AM  
Makes cents to me.
 
2021-11-28 9:05:48 AM  
Nah, it's just "lobbying." Nothing to see here. ;)
 
2021-11-28 9:47:29 AM  
Are they being paid in dollars or rubles?
 
2021-11-28 9:50:28 AM  
Yeah, fuq'those two in particular
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2021-11-28 9:54:55 AM  
No, I just want their constituents to vote them out. Next question?
 
2021-11-28 9:55:26 AM  

Man On A Mission: hubiestubert: No sh*t.

You were supposed to say "no shiat"

/ party foul


I have to wonder if no shiat gets filtered to shiat.
 
2021-11-28 9:56:43 AM  
Unless something weird happens these two won't change.  The only way to neuter them is to get more Dems in the Senate.  And Republicans are breaking the system so that will be impossible.

These are the good old days.  As absurd as that may be.  So, enjoy them while you can!
 
2021-11-28 9:58:03 AM  

47 is the new 42: Man On A Mission: hubiestubert: No sh*t.

You were supposed to say "no shiat"

/ party foul

I have to wonder if no shiat gets filtered to shiat.


The filter gods hit fast and thoroughly
 
2021-11-28 9:58:19 AM  
Glad the democrats did nothing to curtail their rebellion.
 
2021-11-28 10:02:17 AM  
Follow the money. Then cut off and siphon it off in untraceable crypto. Make the donors paupers.
 
2021-11-28 10:03:58 AM  
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2021-11-28 10:05:56 AM  

hubiestubert: No sh*t.


Done in one. Last one out get the lights.
 
2021-11-28 10:07:12 AM  

feltrider: If we do not overturn Citizens United this country is doomed.


It made unfettered bribery legal and hidden. The only ones who can change it are the ones being secretly bribed. Game over. 

(Cue Nearer My God To Thee) 

Gentlemen, it's been a privledge.
 
2021-11-28 10:08:19 AM  
This is my surprised face.
 
2021-11-28 10:13:45 AM  

Man On A Mission: hubiestubert: No sh*t.

You were supposed to say "no shiat"

/ party foul


No $hait?
 
2021-11-28 10:14:24 AM  
I'm sick of the lack of news organizations' ability to get simple facts correct.

FTFAManchin and Sinema's status as holdouts in a Senate evenly divided between 50 Democrats and 50 Republicans has guaranteed outsized influence and attention.

Last I checked, there were 48 Democratic, 2 Independent, & 50 Republican Senators. Has something changed?

Just because Sanders and King caucus w/ the Democratic party does not make them members of the party.
 
2021-11-28 10:15:31 AM  
Tor_Eckman:

Unless something weird happens these two won't change.  The only way to neuter them and other corrupt/right-wing leaning Dems who are letting Manchin and Sinema take the heat is to get more and better Dems and third-party progressives in the Senate.  And Republicans are breaking the system so that will be impossible.
These are the good old days.  As absurd as that may be.  So, enjoy them while you can!


Manchin and Sinema aren't the only two Democrats who are against progressive policy that would help their constituents. You can't make the argument that just more Democratic Party politicians is the solution when there were eight (8) Democratic Party Senators who voted against increasing the Federal minimum wage to $15 an hour, and others who voted against importing cheaper prescription drugs from foreign countries with the same or better quality control as the FDA but also have price controls unlike the United States.
 
2021-11-28 10:17:07 AM  
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So quirky!
 
2021-11-28 10:17:08 AM  
Interesting way of saying to be worthless assholes.
 
2021-11-28 10:20:34 AM  
No more clicks for Manchurian candidate and Senator Cinnabon.
 
2021-11-28 10:20:41 AM  

Burn_The_Plows: I'm sick of the lack of news organizations' ability to get simple facts correct.

FTFA: Manchin and Sinema's status as holdouts in a Senate evenly divided between 50 Democrats and 50 Republicans has guaranteed outsized influence and attention.

Last I checked, there were 48 Democratic, 2 Independent, & 50 Republican Senators. Has something changed?

Just because Sanders and King caucus w/ the Democratic party does not make them members of the party.


Oh my... the prog coalition is going to lose their minds now that you mention Bernie isn't a Democrat. It completely defeats their argument that democrats won't do every single thing Bernie wants and kneel before his infinite wisdom.
 
2021-11-28 10:21:21 AM  
Money influencing politics? I'm shocked

"Dark money' topped $1 billion in 2020, largely boosting Democrats"

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2021​/​03/one-billion-dark-money-2020-electio​ncycle/
 
2021-11-28 10:21:27 AM  

TheCableGuy: No, I just want their constituents to vote them out. Next question?


That might work for Sinema, but Manchin is the furthest left person we'll see in that seat for the foreseeable future.
 
2021-11-28 10:21:30 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Tor_Eckman:

Unless something weird happens these two won't change.  The only way to neuter them and other corrupt/right-wing leaning Dems who are letting Manchin and Sinema take the heat is to get more and better Dems and third-party progressives in the Senate.  And Republicans are breaking the system so that will be impossible.
These are the good old days.  As absurd as that may be.  So, enjoy them while you can!

Manchin and Sinema aren't the only two Democrats who are against progressive policy that would help their constituents. You can't make the argument that just more Democratic Party politicians is the solution when there were eight (8) Democratic Party Senators who voted against increasing the Federal minimum wage to $15 an hour, and others who voted against importing cheaper prescription drugs from foreign countries with the same or better quality control as the FDA but also have price controls unlike the United States.


Yes, you're right.  It's all the Dems fault. Blame it all on them.  That's helping.

Enjoy your oligarchy.
 
2021-11-28 10:21:36 AM  
That's not fair.  Sinema also does some things just to be the center of attention.  That's why she's so "quirky".
 
2021-11-28 10:22:01 AM  

Night Train to Wakanda: Glad the democrats did nothing to curtail their rebellion.


I guess you think they should cross their arms and tap their feet more vigorously. That will fix things.
 
2021-11-28 10:23:06 AM  

JerkStore: [Fark user image image 425x283]

So quirky!


Seeing that is one of the reasons I have an urge to punch Hipsters. Especially the ones who actively moved into and recently gentrified a neighborhood and wax poetic about how "hard it is" for poor people to live, while they were the ones responsible for pricing the poor people out of the neighborhood the Hipsters currently live within.
 
2021-11-28 10:23:06 AM  
Do you really think Citizens United has changed a goddamned thing?  They just made it easier for small time pols to get that greasy money.  How many people got caught over the ages buying lawmakers?  Now realize that those are only the ones that got nailed.  This has been going on since the Robber Baron age.  Nay, it's how the Robber Baron age started.

The USA has had the best government money can buy for over 150 years.  Citizens United just made it less illegal.
 
2021-11-28 10:24:20 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Interesting way of saying to be worthless assholes.


Worth every penny to their funders and masters.  Wholly owned, guaranteed votes.

Votes sold to the highest bidder, regardless of political party or persuasion.

Though TBH, money cares not for politics; just persuasion.
 
2021-11-28 10:30:20 AM  
Corruption should carry a sentence of death.
 
2021-11-28 10:30:52 AM  

KCinPA: Money influencing politics? I'm shocked

"Dark money' topped $1 billion in 2020, largely boosting Democrats"

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2021/​03/one-billion-dark-money-2020-electio​ncycle/


So you're in favor of shutting down dark money and shifting to publicly funded campaigns?


We're game if you are.
 
2021-11-28 10:32:57 AM  
Sure is farking weird how insane and shiatty our government got after the Supreme Court legalized openly buying senators, huh? Probably just a coincidence though.
 
2021-11-28 10:35:42 AM  
Once again, Fark has blamed the malfeasance of the GQP entirely on the Democrats.
 
2021-11-28 10:36:30 AM  
Tor_Eckman:

Yes, you're right.  It's all the Dems fault. Blame it all on them.  That's helping.
Enjoy your oligarchy.


Right, my post wasn't about promoting getting corruption away from the Democratic Party when I said we should filter Democratic Party politicians (and/or replace them with third-party progressives) to make sure they are not corrupt before voting them into political jobs that influences the direction of this country, nope just blaming Democrats here. You are very smart.

/Manchin and Sinema ARE Democrats, you idiot (as well as the other politicians I described in my previous post)!
//Just getting more Democratic Party  politicians without any evaluation of their future performance means we risk electing more Manchins and Sinemas, and NOTHING WILL STILL CHANGE TO HELP US!!
 
2021-11-28 10:39:43 AM  
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2021-11-28 10:40:33 AM  

Tor_Eckman: DarkSoulNoHope: Tor_Eckman:

Unless something weird happens these two won't change.  The only way to neuter them and other corrupt/right-wing leaning Dems who are letting Manchin and Sinema take the heat is to get more and better Dems and third-party progressives in the Senate.  And Republicans are breaking the system so that will be impossible.
These are the good old days.  As absurd as that may be.  So, enjoy them while you can!

Manchin and Sinema aren't the only two Democrats who are against progressive policy that would help their constituents. You can't make the argument that just more Democratic Party politicians is the solution when there were eight (8) Democratic Party Senators who voted against increasing the Federal minimum wage to $15 an hour, and others who voted against importing cheaper prescription drugs from foreign countries with the same or better quality control as the FDA but also have price controls unlike the United States.

Yes, you're right.  It's all the Dems fault. Blame it all on them.  That's helping.

Enjoy your oligarchy.


Yes. It's definitely not the neoconfederate/neonazi coalition that just tried to overthrow the government. Or the shiatty gerontocracy who hold almost every meaningful position despite probably being too addled to drive safely for the last decade or two.

It's definitely solely attributable to the two Senators who are the worst at keeping their commodity status quiet.
 
2021-11-28 10:41:37 AM  
The wealthy have money, the rest of us have numbers and guns.

Sounds like we need to start to use our advantage.
 
2021-11-28 10:41:38 AM  
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2021-11-28 10:41:57 AM  

wademh: Night Train to Wakanda: Glad the democrats did nothing to curtail their rebellion.

I guess you think they should cross their arms and tap their feet more vigorously. That will fix things.


Dude. They're doing absolutely fark all AS HARD AS THEY CAN! What more do you want?!
 
2021-11-28 10:42:45 AM  

Goimir: Do you really think Citizens United has changed a goddamned thing?  They just made it easier for small time pols to get that greasy money.  How many people got caught over the ages buying lawmakers?  Now realize that those are only the ones that got nailed.  This has been going on since the Robber Baron age.  Nay, it's how the Robber Baron age started.

The USA has had the best government money can buy for over 150 years.  Citizens United just made it less illegal.


When the law regarding bribery was interpreted to mean something is only a bribe if it is specifically said to be a bribe, the country was put up for sale.  Allowing lobbyists to do what they do also hasn't helped.
 
2021-11-28 10:44:44 AM  

Fiatlux: Once again, Fark has blamed the malfeasance of the GQP entirely on the Democrats.

Once again, Fark has I am gaslighting Progressives who correctly point out that corruption is a bad thing which can't solely be blamed on the malfeasance of the GQP,  but also the responsibility of allowing it to continue falls also entirely on the Democrats.


Fixed.
 
2021-11-28 10:47:31 AM  

Fiatlux: Once again, Fark has blamed the malfeasance of the GQP entirely on the Democrats.


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2021-11-28 10:50:36 AM  
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2021-11-28 10:50:58 AM  

Galileo's Daughter: Are they being paid in dollars or rubles?


Yes
 
2021-11-28 10:51:58 AM  
PuRitY TeStS!
 
2021-11-28 10:54:45 AM  

maniacbastard: The wealthy have money, the rest of us have numbers and guns.

Sounds like we need to start to use our advantage.


I don't see how driving around shooting black folks is going to fix anything.
 
2021-11-28 10:55:10 AM  
Well farkers and farkettes, democracy was sort of ok while it lasted. I recently went to my nephew's 2nd birthday party and my father started spouting Neo-Nazi talking points and hate speech. My wife and I are currently discussing how to cut ourselves off from them.

However, that looks to be a rather minuscule conflict in the grand scheme of what is soon to come. I hate this farking nazi timeline.
 
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