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433 [TotalFark]
2021-11-28 4:39:25 AM  
A good critic doesn't believe that he or she has accomplished anything by simply being a critic.  Critics of middling manners manage to makes lists of things and use absolutes like "worst" and "best."

I realize that I am being critical, myself.  Perhaps Paul Thomas Anderson doesn't have a worst film, just one or two that helped him become a very good director.
 
2021-11-28 6:44:00 AM  

433: Perhaps Paul Thomas Anderson doesn't have a worst film


I think we're done here.
 
2021-11-28 7:04:07 AM  
The Resident Evil series was execrable.

Seriously, though, this is one of my favorite scenes in his films.

Magnolia | Wise Up (It's Not Going To Stop)
Youtube NzolANcPHeU
 
2021-11-28 7:18:24 AM  
I will be that guy. I have yet to see any of these movies on the list.
 
2021-11-28 7:33:45 AM  
When you've run out of things to rank.
 
2021-11-28 7:48:40 AM  
If you haven't seen Hard Eight, do do immediately.
 
2021-11-28 7:55:26 AM  

NewportBarGuy: If you haven't seen Hard Eight, do do immediately.


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2021-11-28 8:05:54 AM  

NewportBarGuy: If you haven't seen Hard Eight, do do immediately.


Ah, yes, the Ron Jeremy classic.
 
2021-11-28 8:20:22 AM  

NewportBarGuy: If you haven't seen Hard Eight, do do immediately.


I haven't seen it. Luckily, I read this thread whilst on the shiatter.
 
2021-11-28 8:46:59 AM  
"twee to meh" is Wes Anderson, subby

/"crap to trash" is Paul W. S. Anderson
//"pretty ok to great" is Paul Thomas Anderson
///"Neo" is Thomas A. Anderson
 
2021-11-28 8:52:43 AM  

thesharkman: I will be that guy. I have yet to see any of these movies on the list.


See There Will Be Blood. Ignore the rest, especially Magnolia, one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
 
2021-11-28 9:06:48 AM  
I guess I'm the only one that thinks his films are over the top pretentious.
 
2021-11-28 9:07:39 AM  
boogie nights
the master
punch drunk love
there will be blood

magnolia...wasn't great.  haven't seen the rest
 
2021-11-28 9:11:02 AM  
This critic has a bad sense of a good film. Not only is "Hard Eight" a pretty good film, it's much better than the messy "Inherent Vice". Maybe the critic liked that movie because of the extended nude scene. I thought the script was shiatty and the movie didn't follow a plot.

I've seen a lot of movies that are much worse than Hard Eight.
 
2021-11-28 9:12:12 AM  
Joaquin Phoenix was wound too tight in Inherent Vice. Jeff Bridges would have been much better as Doc.
 
2021-11-28 9:20:05 AM  

scotchcrotch: I guess I'm the only one that thinks his films are over the top pretentious.


"Pretentious" is a word often used by stupid people to dismiss things they don't understand. Film at 11.
 
2021-11-28 9:21:31 AM  

Ragin' Asian: The Resident Evil series was execrable.

Seriously, though, this is one of my favorite scenes in his films.

[YouTube video: Magnolia | Wise Up (It's Not Going To Stop)]


I stopped reading the article when I got to the part where they mocked that section of Magnolia (I'm not a movie guy but really enjoyed that movie). Taste is subjective and my taste and the author of that article's tastes clearly don't align.
 
2021-11-28 9:26:55 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: scotchcrotch: I guess I'm the only one that thinks his films are over the top pretentious.

"Pretentious" is a word often used by stupid people to dismiss things they don't understand. Film at 11.


Do you prefer shallow and pedantic?
 
2021-11-28 9:43:25 AM  

thesharkman: I will be that guy. I have yet to see any of these movies on the list.


I'm just glad you said "yet", implying you do have intentions to watch at least some of them one day. Familiarization with 'serious' movies from 'auteur' directors is an important part of cultural literacy and criticism, and as a bonus you might actually enjoy watching them. At the very least, you should watch Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood, two very good period pieces from Anderson that both entered the cultural zeitgeist when they were released ten years apart and are still quite often referenced and talked about. If you watch those two and like them, finding time to view the rest should come pretty easy.
 
2021-11-28 9:43:26 AM  
paranoia and conspiracy should not be linear and perfectly understandable.
inherent vice is hilarious and heartbreaking and stunningly beautiful.

on the other hand, that website on an iphone is farking infuriating.
 
2021-11-28 10:00:08 AM  

scotchcrotch: I guess I'm the only one that thinks his films are over the top pretentious.


Tell me you enjoyed the Transformers without telling me you enjoyed the Transformers.
 
2021-11-28 10:13:05 AM  
I loved Magnolia.
 
2021-11-28 10:28:08 AM  
I still don't like "There will be blood".   Could recognize the quality of the  cinematography but overall it reaches an almost a Christopher Nolan-level of trying to be deep but not really achieving it, which of course does tend to resonate with mediocre movie critics. 

And then there is Daniel Day Lewis as a charicature of his earlier performances, trying to outham himself to a level his co-actors cannot even dream off, and by doing so creating a very unbalanced cast performance.   

It's Anderson's worst in my opinion.
 
2021-11-28 10:33:48 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: scotchcrotch: I guess I'm the only one that thinks his films are over the top pretentious.

"Pretentious" is a word often used by stupid people to dismiss things they don't understand. Film at 11.


Go watch spiderman 69
 
2021-11-28 10:55:53 AM  

Rocket To Russia: thesharkman: I will be that guy. I have yet to see any of these movies on the list.

See There Will Be Blood. Ignore the rest, especially Magnolia, one of the worst movies I've ever seen.


Respect the c* ck.
 
2021-11-28 10:58:48 AM  

bikkurikun: I still don't like "There will be blood".   Could recognize the quality of the  cinematography but overall it reaches an almost a Christopher Nolan-level of trying to be deep but not really achieving it, which of course does tend to resonate with mediocre movie critics. 

And then there is Daniel Day Lewis as a charicature of his earlier performances, trying to outham himself to a level his co-actors cannot even dream off, and by doing so creating a very unbalanced cast performance.   

It's Anderson's worst in my opinion.


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daniel day lewis' performance was delicious
 
2021-11-28 11:06:09 AM  
Here's my ranking, in case you want it, and you probably don't.  But here it is anyway.  I have not seen Licorice Pizza yet so I will not include it.

And away we go:

1. There Will Be Blood
2. The Master
3. Boogie Nights
4. Hard Eight
5. Magnolia
6. Inherent Vice
7. Punch-Drunk Love
8. Phantom Thread

The reason Phantom Thread is at the bottom for me is that it takes the tendency towards opaqueness he started with There Will Be Blood, where it works, and goes all the way with it to sheer impenetrability -- you can't figure out why anyone does anything they do, and you aren't interested in the characters enough to do that work like you are in TWBB and The Master.  Hell, it made Daniel Day-Lewis boring.

Magnolia would be higher with a little trimming.  Though I don't know what you'd cut.
 
2021-11-28 11:20:07 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: scotchcrotch: I guess I'm the only one that thinks his films are over the top pretentious.

"Pretentious" is a word often used by stupid people to dismiss things they don't understand. Film at 11.


Personal attacks are often a defense mechanism by the insecure who like what others don't.
 
2021-11-28 11:56:32 AM  

Rocket To Russia: thesharkman: I will be that guy. I have yet to see any of these movies on the list.

See There Will Be Blood. Ignore the rest, especially Magnolia, one of the worst movies I've ever seen.


God I hated "There Will Be Blood", it was so self indulgent.  I'd rather re-watch "Punchdrunk Love" and I thought that was terrible.  Don't get why the article writer was hating on "Hard Eight", much like "Bottle Rocket" it is nice to see a highly stylized director without the budget, or the ego.  I wish both of them would consider something more stripped down some day.

"Boogie Nights" was brilliant.  Hilarious and deep at the the same time.  Probably my fav PTA movie, though I have only seen half that list.
 
2021-11-28 12:00:08 PM  

Drunk Southern Taser Bait: I loved Magnolia.


Username checking out....
 
2021-11-28 12:02:21 PM  
I used to wonder how good Boogie Nights could have been if they'd cast an actor in the lead role.

It's confounding to me that Hollywood still tries to pass off this flash-in-the-pan "rapper" who rode in on his boy band brother's coattails as a legitimate dramatic talent.

That aside, There Will be Blood should be at the top. It's not a perfect film, but the best of this heap without a doubt.

And yes, definitely see Hard Eight. But only if you need a quick cure for insomnia.
 
2021-11-28 12:07:02 PM  

AteMyBrain: I used to wonder how good Boogie Nights could have been if they'd cast an actor in the lead role.

It's confounding to me that Hollywood still tries to pass off this flash-in-the-pan "rapper" who rode in on his boy band brother's coattails as a legitimate dramatic talent.

That aside, There Will be Blood should be at the top. It's not a perfect film, but the best of this heap without a doubt.

And yes, definitely see Hard Eight. But only if you need a quick cure for insomnia.


I mean, he was nominated for an Oscar for The Departed.

Your comment feels like something someone who fell asleep during, oh, 1997 and just woke up.
 
2021-11-28 12:12:39 PM  

tacos4jesus: AteMyBrain: I used to wonder how good Boogie Nights could have been if they'd cast an actor in the lead role.

It's confounding to me that Hollywood still tries to pass off this flash-in-the-pan "rapper" who rode in on his boy band brother's coattails as a legitimate dramatic talent.

That aside, There Will be Blood should be at the top. It's not a perfect film, but the best of this heap without a doubt.

And yes, definitely see Hard Eight. But only if you need a quick cure for insomnia.

I mean, he was nominated for an Oscar for The Departed.

Your comment feels like something someone who fell asleep during, oh, 1997 and just woke up.


Honestly, I'm trying to think of a better choice for Dirk Diggler and I can't.  He's perfect for that role.  Sadly, he's gone all wacko Jeebus guy since and denounces it now.
 
2021-11-28 12:21:54 PM  

scotchcrotch: I guess I'm the only one that thinks his films are over the top pretentious.


You are literally the first person ever to have this thought. As a prize, we are sending you a framed picture of the famously unpretentious director Brett Ratner enjoying the exquisitely unpretentious Big Butt Book. With this on your walls, no visitor to your home will ever mistake it as a haven for pretension.

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2021-11-28 12:25:20 PM  

ImOscar: scotchcrotch: I guess I'm the only one that thinks his films are over the top pretentious.

You are literally the first person ever to have this thought. As a prize, we are sending you a framed picture of the famously unpretentious director Brett Ratner enjoying the exquisitely unpretentious Big Butt Book. With this on your walls, no visitor to your home will ever mistake it as a haven for pretension.

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Literally?

Not figuratively?  Not metaphorically?
 
2021-11-28 12:27:16 PM  

scotchcrotch: ImOscar: scotchcrotch: I guess I'm the only one that thinks his films are over the top pretentious.

You are literally the first person ever to have this thought. As a prize, we are sending you a framed picture of the famously unpretentious director Brett Ratner enjoying the exquisitely unpretentious Big Butt Book. With this on your walls, no visitor to your home will ever mistake it as a haven for pretension.

[Fark user image image 425x239]

Literally?

Not figuratively?  Not metaphorically?


LITERALLY the only person ever. A staggering achievement that PT Anderson could only dream of.
 
2021-11-28 12:32:33 PM  

thesharkman: I will be that guy. I have yet to see any of these movies on the list.


I recommend you start with Boogie Nights. It has the porn angle so even if it turns out you don't like his style you'll still get some entertainment out of it. It's about a group of people who happen to work in porn. It also takes place during the time porn was switching from something filmed and watched in theaters to shot on video and watched on VCRs. There's a lot going on in that movie.
 
2021-11-28 12:33:20 PM  
The director doesnt matter as much as the writers and actors
 
2021-11-28 1:07:28 PM  

AteMyBrain: I used to wonder how good Boogie Nights could have been if they'd cast an actor in the lead role.

It's confounding to me that Hollywood still tries to pass off this flash-in-the-pan "rapper" who rode in on his boy band brother's coattails as a legitimate dramatic talent.

That aside, There Will be Blood should be at the top. It's not a perfect film, but the best of this heap without a doubt.

And yes, definitely see Hard Eight. But only if you need a quick cure for insomnia.


WTF? Wahlberg killed that role.
 
2021-11-28 1:14:03 PM  

Birnone: thesharkman: I will be that guy. I have yet to see any of these movies on the list.

I recommend you start with Boogie Nights. It has the porn angle so even if it turns out you don't like his style you'll still get some entertainment out of it. It's about a group of people who happen to work in porn. It also takes place during the time porn was switching from something filmed and watched in theaters to shot on video and watched on VCRs. There's a lot going on in that movie.


Not to mention full frontal Heather Graham.
 
2021-11-28 1:16:38 PM  

tacos4jesus: I mean, he was nominated for an Oscar for The Departed.


Which I still don't get at all. His character was just way too over the top.

Wahlberg is just not a good actor.

Having said that, he was perfect for Dirk Diggler. Boogie Nights is a classic.
 
2021-11-28 1:17:30 PM  

thesharkman: I will be that guy. I have yet to see any of these movies on the list.


I recommend stop being that guy and see a few of them. There are some fantastic films on that list. Start with. Boogie Nights.
 
2021-11-28 1:35:14 PM  
I like the Resident Evil movies.
 
2021-11-28 1:52:28 PM  

tacos4jesus: AteMyBrain: I used to wonder how good Boogie Nights could have been if they'd cast an actor in the lead role.

It's confounding to me that Hollywood still tries to pass off this flash-in-the-pan "rapper" who rode in on his boy band brother's coattails as a legitimate dramatic talent.

That aside, There Will be Blood should be at the top. It's not a perfect film, but the best of this heap without a doubt.

And yes, definitely see Hard Eight. But only if you need a quick cure for insomnia.

I mean, he was nominated for an Oscar for The Departed.

Your comment feels like something someone who fell asleep during, oh, 1997 and just woke up.


The Departed was such a lazy, terrible movie. I'll never understand it.
 
2021-11-28 1:54:12 PM  
He's a good director like designer hipster pickles and cupcakes are good food.  Like the pickles, you watch each of his movies once and its not horrible but you  don't understand why your friends rave like they are anything special. Any corner deli has pickles just as good and you're not going to remember the brand 2 hours later. The friend enjoys believing they have good taste more than the actual product.  He's a music video director who excels in producing B- throwaway products that most people forget in 20 years.  The only part of "Boogie Nights" I've seen since the first showing is the music video he made for "Try" that came out of it.

Disclaimer - I still watch his movies when they come out.  I just don't expect them to impact my life more than a red velvet cupcake.
 
2021-11-28 2:02:59 PM  

scotchcrotch: I guess I'm the only one that thinks his films are over the top pretentious.


I think so too. I always forget and watch another of his movies and say "it's good, I guess."
 
2021-11-28 2:05:22 PM  

bikkurikun: I still don't like "There will be blood".   Could recognize the quality of the  cinematography but overall it reaches an almost a Christopher Nolan-level of trying to be deep but not really achieving it, which of course does tend to resonate with mediocre movie critics. 

And then there is Daniel Day Lewis as a charicature of his earlier performances, trying to outham himself to a level his co-actors cannot even dream off, and by doing so creating a very unbalanced cast performance.   

It's Anderson's worst in my opinion.


This
 
2021-11-28 2:20:38 PM  
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2021-11-28 2:50:26 PM  
I keep confusing this guy with Wes Anderson.

//Will spend afternoon trying to erase a Wes Anderson "boogie nights" from my brain.
 
kab
2021-11-28 3:18:16 PM  

scotchcrotch: I guess I'm the only one that thinks his films are over the top pretentious.


Found a Ghostbusters 2016 fan.
 
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