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2021-11-27 3:38:44 PM  
I could have told you this. I'm a Scorpio, and Scorpios don't believe in astrology.
 
2021-11-27 5:25:43 PM  
i have a friend from college who believes in astrology. we had a fight about it a few years back. my closing statement was "ok, so you believe in the western zodiac (as opposed to ayurvedic astrology, which is ALSO not a real "science"). if we assume that astrology IS real and accurate, how do you explain that it has NOT been adjusted for precession? EVEN IF this was all real (spoiler, it's not) you aren't even "the sign" you think you are! your "chart" is 1000s of years off!"

and i'm right:

https://www.livescience.com/4667-astr​o​logical-sign.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precess​i​on#Astronomy

and TFA?

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264 FB users? well that's the problem! they were self selected for low IQs.
 
2021-11-27 6:20:55 PM  

a particular individual: I could have told you this. I'm a Scorpio, and Scorpios don't believe in astrology.


Damn, I was about to post the same exact thing. It must be in the stars,

/Scorpio
//the scumbags of the Zodiac
///attracts dumb girls who believe in astrology
 
2021-11-27 6:26:20 PM  

luna1580: i have a friend from college who believes in astrology. we had a fight about it a few years back. my closing statement was "ok, so you believe in the western zodiac (as opposed to ayurvedic astrology, which is ALSO not a real "science"). if we assume that astrology IS real and accurate, how do you explain that it has NOT been adjusted for precession? EVEN IF this was all real (spoiler, it's not) you aren't even "the sign" you think you are! your "chart" is 1000s of years off!"

and i'm right:

https://www.livescience.com/4667-astro​logical-sign.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precessi​on#Astronomy

and TFA?

[Fark user image image 507x478]

264 FB users? well that's the problem! they were self selected for low IQs.


IQ tests are horoscopes for wealth and ethnicity.
 
2021-11-27 6:26:22 PM  

Mugato: a particular individual: I could have told you this. I'm a Scorpio, and Scorpios don't believe in astrology.

Damn, I was about to post the same exact thing. It must be in the stars,

/Scorpio
//the scumbags of the Zodiac
///attracts dumb girls who believe in astrology


I'm also a Scorpio who was going to also about to stand up and tell you all the same thing...
 
2021-11-27 6:47:12 PM  
Been done:
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Not obscure
 
2021-11-27 6:57:19 PM  
My mother's zodiac sign was Cancer.Ironically, she died from a giant crab.
 
2021-11-27 6:58:57 PM  
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2021-11-27 6:59:51 PM  

lurkey: My mother's zodiac sign was Cancer.Ironically, she died from a giant crab.


Not the first time your mom and crabs were mentioned together.
 
2021-11-27 7:16:32 PM  
Ooh fun, something to share on social media and make all your worst friends really angry.
 
2021-11-27 7:18:18 PM  

a particular individual: lurkey: My mother's zodiac sign was Cancer.Ironically, she died from a giant crab.

Not the first time your mom and crabs were mentioned together.


I showed that joke to her and she went all to Pisces.
(Taurus all up, actually.)
 
2021-11-27 7:25:54 PM  

luna1580: 264 FB users? well that's the problem! they were self selected for low IQs.


My thought exactly.
 
2021-11-27 7:35:06 PM  
Subby must be an Aries because they have to make everything political.
 
2021-11-27 7:51:57 PM  
A friend of mine in high school and college was very interested in astronomy, and had figured out his December birthday made his astrological sign Ophiuchus.
 
2021-11-27 8:01:55 PM  
I never believe the predictions part but the personality traits attributed to each sign are from thousands of years of human observations.
These earthbound indicators are still accurate no matter what the stars say.


/Capricorn
//I ain't no Sagittarius
///She definitely wasn't a Virgo
 
2021-11-27 8:02:11 PM  

ZMugg: Been done:
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Not obscure


Of course it was a "conservative" to have an actual astrologer on speed-dial to give him presidential advice. Absolute insanity, and it devolved from there with TFG, who got his ideas from used a second rate used-pillow methhead, nutso Giuliani, and Kusher.
 
2021-11-27 8:14:58 PM  

jokerscrowbar: I never believe the predictions part but the personality traits attributed to each sign are from thousands of years of human observations.
These earthbound indicators are still accurate no matter what the stars say.

/Capricorn
//I ain't no Sagittarius
///She definitely wasn't a Virgo


aka Self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
2021-11-27 8:14:58 PM  

Unobtanium: A friend of mine in high school and college was very interested in astronomy, and had figured out his December birthday made his astrological sign Ophiuchus.


Ophiuchus- the man grasping a snake?
Isn't that every Farker that's online right now?
 
2021-11-27 8:16:49 PM  

lurkey: My mother's zodiac sign was Cancer.Ironically, she died from a giant crab.


Looks like the word "infestation" somehow got cut from your post.
 
2021-11-27 8:24:26 PM  
People who believe in astrology....

are idiots.
are delusional.
are off their meds.
require a psych evaluation.
should not be allowed to breed.
Etc., ect.
 
2021-11-27 8:31:00 PM  
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2021-11-27 8:40:07 PM  

Excelsior: lurkey: My mother's zodiac sign was Cancer.Ironically, she died from a giant crab.

Looks like the word "infestation" somehow got cut from your post.


Don't be Such A Tereus.
 
2021-11-27 8:56:40 PM  

Excelsior: jokerscrowbar: I never believe the predictions part but the personality traits attributed to each sign are from thousands of years of human observations.
These earthbound indicators are still accurate no matter what the stars say.

/Capricorn
//I ain't no Sagittarius
///She definitely wasn't a Virgo

aka Self-fulfilling prophecy.


No, it's how I am, not an act or learned behaviour and amongst my friends I have noticed that they all comply to their types too.
Bombastic Leo, Selfish Scorpio etc.
Something, something True Colours.
 
2021-11-27 9:08:27 PM  

luna1580: i have a friend from college who believes in astrology. we had a fight about it a few years back. my closing statement was "ok, so you believe in the western zodiac (as opposed to ayurvedic astrology, which is ALSO not a real "science"). if we assume that astrology IS real and accurate, how do you explain that it has NOT been adjusted for precession? EVEN IF this was all real (spoiler, it's not) you aren't even "the sign" you think you are! your "chart" is 1000s of years off!"

and i'm right:

https://www.livescience.com/4667-astro​logical-sign.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precessi​on#Astronomy

and TFA?

[Fark user image image 507x478]

264 FB users? well that's the problem! they were self selected for low IQs.


I've lost count of the number of people I've pissed off by bringing up precession. That moment when people so invested in their 'sign identity' discover they're not even that sign...

Good times, good times
 
2021-11-27 9:13:46 PM  

jokerscrowbar: Excelsior: jokerscrowbar: I never believe the predictions part but the personality traits attributed to each sign are from thousands of years of human observations.
These earthbound indicators are still accurate no matter what the stars say.

/Capricorn
//I ain't no Sagittarius
///She definitely wasn't a Virgo

aka Self-fulfilling prophecy.

No, it's how I am, not an act or learned behaviour and amongst my friends I have noticed that they all comply to their types too.
Bombastic Leo, Selfish Scorpio etc.
Something, something True Colours.


I'm not suggesting that you would consciously try to adopt a specific personality yourself, but if your parents also bought into the whole astrological mumbo-jumbo, that means that they could have been the ones making those false assumptions about your pre-destined personality. That can affect how they raised you, and how you turned out in the end. Again, self-fulfilling prophecy.

Also, humans are good at seeing patterns, as well as selectively ignoring exceptions.  Baader-Meinhof phenomenon, aka the frequency illusion.  If you buy a red car, all of a sudden you start seeing red cars everywhere, making you feel like they are lot more common than they actually are.
If you decided for yourself that astrological personality traits might be true, you start seeing "confirmation" of those assumptions everywhere, yet subconsciously ignoring the times when they don't match.
Your perceive the confirmations of your bias much stronger than the exceptions to them.
 
2021-11-27 9:23:41 PM  

Trayal: I've lost count of the number of people I've pissed off by bringing up precession. That moment when people so invested in their 'sign identity' discover they're not even that sign...

Good times, good times


A few years ago, there was an experiment where a researcher (don't remember his name) commissioned a number of "personalized horoscopes" from different sources with the birthdate/time info of Adolph Hitler. He then  took out an ad offering "free horoscopes" to interested people, except he replaced Hitler's birthdate on the printout with the date/time of birth of the personal requesting it.

During follow-up, something like 80% of the participants self-rated the horoscope that they received as "pretty accurate" matching their personality type.  In other words: confirmation bias, people just see what they want to see.

/That, and horoscopes are intentionally vague to get past the suspension of disbelief of the target audience.
 
2021-11-27 9:50:38 PM  
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2021-11-27 9:57:31 PM  

Excelsior: Trayal: I've lost count of the number of people I've pissed off by bringing up precession. That moment when people so invested in their 'sign identity' discover they're not even that sign...

Good times, good times

A few years ago, there was an experiment where a researcher (don't remember his name) commissioned a number of "personalized horoscopes" from different sources with the birthdate/time info of Adolph Hitler. He then  took out an ad offering "free horoscopes" to interested people, except he replaced Hitler's birthdate on the printout with the date/time of birth of the personal requesting it.

During follow-up, something like 80% of the participants self-rated the horoscope that they received as "pretty accurate" matching their personality type.  In other words: confirmation bias, people just see what they want to see.

/That, and horoscopes are intentionally vague to get past the suspension of disbelief of the target audience.


James Randi demonstrated the same thing rather succinctly:

Astrology Debunked - James Randi's Test
Youtube wy5T0YwtG4o
 
2021-11-27 10:01:33 PM  
Anyone else: "What's your sign?"
Me: "Stop"

Anyone else: "Who is your favorite star?"
Me: "Zubeneschamali"

BTW: I got booted out of Sunday school when I was 10 years old for demanding proof for half the BS they were pitching. lol
 
2021-11-27 10:05:24 PM  
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What for doth transpire in the present thread?
 
2021-11-27 10:31:41 PM  

Gordon Bennett: [Fark user image 735x928]


It's like

Guy 1: "That's a made-up holiday."
Guy 2: "They're all made up."
 
2021-11-27 10:35:37 PM  

Excelsior: jokerscrowbar: Excelsior: jokerscrowbar: I never believe the predictions part but the personality traits attributed to each sign are from thousands of years of human observations.
These earthbound indicators are still accurate no matter what the stars say.

/Capricorn
//I ain't no Sagittarius
///She definitely wasn't a Virgo

aka Self-fulfilling prophecy.

No, it's how I am, not an act or learned behaviour and amongst my friends I have noticed that they all comply to their types too.
Bombastic Leo, Selfish Scorpio etc.
Something, something True Colours.

I'm not suggesting that you would consciously try to adopt a specific personality yourself, but if your parents also bought into the whole astrological mumbo-jumbo, that means that they could have been the ones making those false assumptions about your pre-destined personality. That can affect how they raised you, and how you turned out in the end. Again, self-fulfilling prophecy.

Also, humans are good at seeing patterns, as well as selectively ignoring exceptions.  Baader-Meinhof phenomenon, aka the frequency illusion.  If you buy a red car, all of a sudden you start seeing red cars everywhere, making you feel like they are lot more common than they actually are.
If you decided for yourself that astrological personality traits might be true, you start seeing "confirmation" of those assumptions everywhere, yet subconsciously ignoring the times when they don't match.
Your perceive the confirmations of your bias much stronger than the exceptions to them.


If that were true there would be enough evidence of exception to disprove the bias and we would all conform to that too.  My parents and older brother were all Leo and often exasperated by my Capricornishness.

The difference between a winter or summer child is quite accepted,  the 12 subgroups based on four seasons each with four types are also accurate as far as I can see.   As I say,  they come from thousands of years of human observation and those fakers and charlatans who claimed to be mystics have honed them and would rely on them in order 'predict'  how things would work out and be just close enough to be believed.
 
2021-11-27 10:42:05 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Anyone else: "What's your sign?"
Me: "Stop"

Anyone else: "Who is your favorite star?"
Me: "Zubeneschamali"

BTW: I got booted out of Sunday school when I was 10 years old for demanding proof for half the BS they were pitching. lol


That's a shiatty Sunday School.

/First thing they should have taught is the difference between the figurative and the literal.
 
2021-11-28 12:41:03 AM  

luidprand: Pointy Tail of Satan: Anyone else: "What's your sign?"
Me: "Stop"

Anyone else: "Who is your favorite star?"
Me: "Zubeneschamali"

BTW: I got booted out of Sunday school when I was 10 years old for demanding proof for half the BS they were pitching. lol

That's a shiatty Sunday School.

/First thing they should have taught is the difference between the figurative and the literal.


Hey, in the mid 60's, my 10 year old self dissing the church almost got me sent to a therapist. Some other parents even told their kids to stay away from me. The 60's were mental.
 
2021-11-28 1:36:45 AM  

Trayal: Excelsior: Trayal: I've lost count of the number of people I've pissed off by bringing up precession. That moment when people so invested in their 'sign identity' discover they're not even that sign...

Good times, good times

A few years ago, there was an experiment where a researcher (don't remember his name) commissioned a number of "personalized horoscopes" from different sources with the birthdate/time info of Adolph Hitler. He then  took out an ad offering "free horoscopes" to interested people, except he replaced Hitler's birthdate on the printout with the date/time of birth of the personal requesting it.

During follow-up, something like 80% of the participants self-rated the horoscope that they received as "pretty accurate" matching their personality type.  In other words: confirmation bias, people just see what they want to see.

/That, and horoscopes are intentionally vague to get past the suspension of disbelief of the target audience.

James Randi demonstrated the same thing rather succinctly:

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/wy5T0Ywt​G4o?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]


I was sad when James Randi died.  Not because he was a lovable happy guy - because he wasn't.  But ye gods would he spit in the face of fakers and slap them up and down the table.  Sometimes literally

/it is also sad that Randi never got his wish - he wanted to be cremated
//and for someone to throw his ashes in Uri Geller's face
///I would have paid money to see that - mildly surprised Penn Jillette didn't do it to be honest
 
2021-11-28 2:11:16 AM  
Some Junkie Cosmonaut:
/it is also sad that Randi never got his wish - he wanted to be cremated
//and for someone to throw his ashes in Uri Geller's face
///I would have paid money to see that - mildly surprised Penn Jillette didn't do it to be honest


To be fair, it would be more fun if they just skipped the "cremation" step.

/Geller wouldn't have seen that one coming.
 
2021-11-28 4:01:47 AM  

jokerscrowbar: Excelsior: jokerscrowbar: Excelsior: jokerscrowbar: I never believe the predictions part but the personality traits attributed to each sign are from thousands of years of human observations.
These earthbound indicators are still accurate no matter what the stars say.

/Capricorn
//I ain't no Sagittarius
///She definitely wasn't a Virgo

aka Self-fulfilling prophecy.

No, it's how I am, not an act or learned behaviour and amongst my friends I have noticed that they all comply to their types too.
Bombastic Leo, Selfish Scorpio etc.
Something, something True Colours.

I'm not suggesting that you would consciously try to adopt a specific personality yourself, but if your parents also bought into the whole astrological mumbo-jumbo, that means that they could have been the ones making those false assumptions about your pre-destined personality. That can affect how they raised you, and how you turned out in the end. Again, self-fulfilling prophecy.

Also, humans are good at seeing patterns, as well as selectively ignoring exceptions.  Baader-Meinhof phenomenon, aka the frequency illusion.  If you buy a red car, all of a sudden you start seeing red cars everywhere, making you feel like they are lot more common than they actually are.
If you decided for yourself that astrological personality traits might be true, you start seeing "confirmation" of those assumptions everywhere, yet subconsciously ignoring the times when they don't match.
Your perceive the confirmations of your bias much stronger than the exceptions to them.

If that were true there would be enough evidence of exception to disprove the bias and we would all conform to that too.  My parents and older brother were all Leo and often exasperated by my Capricornishness.

The difference between a winter or summer child is quite accepted,  the 12 subgroups based on four seasons each with four types are also accurate as far as I can see.   As I say,  they come from thousands of years of human observation and those fakers and charlatans who claimed to be mystics have honed them and would rely on them in order 'predict'  how things would work out and be just close enough to be believed.


Lmao.
 
2021-11-28 7:07:53 AM  

lurkey: a particular individual: lurkey: My mother's zodiac sign was Cancer.Ironically, she died from a giant crab.

Not the first time your mom and crabs were mentioned together.

I showed that joke to her and she went all to Pisces.
(Taurus all up, actually.)


Hook, line, and sinker. Well done sir.
 
2021-11-28 8:32:50 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Trayal: Excelsior: Trayal: I've lost count of the number of people I've pissed off by bringing up precession. That moment when people so invested in their 'sign identity' discover they're not even that sign...

Good times, good times

A few years ago, there was an experiment where a researcher (don't remember his name) commissioned a number of "personalized horoscopes" from different sources with the birthdate/time info of Adolph Hitler. He then  took out an ad offering "free horoscopes" to interested people, except he replaced Hitler's birthdate on the printout with the date/time of birth of the personal requesting it.

During follow-up, something like 80% of the participants self-rated the horoscope that they received as "pretty accurate" matching their personality type.  In other words: confirmation bias, people just see what they want to see.

/That, and horoscopes are intentionally vague to get past the suspension of disbelief of the target audience.

James Randi demonstrated the same thing rather succinctly:

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/wy5T0Ywt​G4o?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

I was sad when James Randi died.  Not because he was a lovable happy guy - because he wasn't.  But ye gods would he spit in the face of fakers and slap them up and down the table.  Sometimes literally

/it is also sad that Randi never got his wish - he wanted to be cremated
//and for someone to throw his ashes in Uri Geller's face
///I would have paid money to see that - mildly surprised Penn Jillette didn't do it to be honest


I don't recall Randi assaulting the cranks or suggesting that cranks be assaulted. Got a cite?

/You can't just attack quacks.
//Remember that Buzz Aldrin first tried to withdraw, got cornered, and got stabbed with a Bible before punched Bart the Idiot.
 
2021-11-28 11:32:12 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Trayal: Excelsior: Trayal: I've lost count of the number of people I've pissed off by bringing up precession. That moment when people so invested in their 'sign identity' discover they're not even that sign...

Good times, good times

A few years ago, there was an experiment where a researcher (don't remember his name) commissioned a number of "personalized horoscopes" from different sources with the birthdate/time info of Adolph Hitler. He then  took out an ad offering "free horoscopes" to interested people, except he replaced Hitler's birthdate on the printout with the date/time of birth of the personal requesting it.

During follow-up, something like 80% of the participants self-rated the horoscope that they received as "pretty accurate" matching their personality type.  In other words: confirmation bias, people just see what they want to see.

/That, and horoscopes are intentionally vague to get past the suspension of disbelief of the target audience.

James Randi demonstrated the same thing rather succinctly:

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/wy5T0Ywt​G4o?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

I was sad when James Randi died.  Not because he was a lovable happy guy - because he wasn't.  But ye gods would he spit in the face of fakers and slap them up and down the table.  Sometimes literally

/it is also sad that Randi never got his wish - he wanted to be cremated
//and for someone to throw his ashes in Uri Geller's face
///I would have paid money to see that - mildly surprised Penn Jillette didn't do it to be honest

I don't recall Randi assaulting the cranks or suggesting that cranks be assaulted. Got a cite?

/You can't just attack quacks.
//Remember that Buzz Aldrin first tried to withdraw, got cornered, and got stabbed with a Bible before punched Bart the Idiot.


No cites, no.  Mostly stories from a few people at the Magic Castle that used to hang with him when they were younger.  Apparently he sometimes liked to use his mouth to push fakers into taking a shot at him, which let him return the favor with interest
 
2021-11-28 1:32:51 PM  

jokerscrowbar: the 12 subgroups based on four seasons each with four types are also accurate as far as I can see.


No.

Take your deliberate fakery and peddle it some other where.
 
2021-11-28 7:42:30 PM  

Kittypie070: jokerscrowbar: the 12 subgroups based on four seasons each with four types are also accurate as far as I can see.

No.

Take your deliberate fakery and peddle it some other where.


Hey!  You must be a Libra!
 
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