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2021-11-27 9:04:11 AM  
This story *is* a repeat from every generation since the beginning of time.
 
2021-11-27 9:04:43 AM  
News at 11.....
 
2021-11-27 9:13:45 AM  
Man, just wait til they find out about the crippling debt that goes with higher education. That will make them grateful for any scraps they're handed in their 20's while they decide about needing a 4th roommate to afford rent, insulin, and heat.
 
2021-11-27 10:46:20 AM  
"You kids don't know how good you have it."

"Kids have so much stuff that we never had "

"Kids have no manners these days."

"You two have no appreciation for all that we do for you.


Yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard all that and more. I'm 62 farking years old. Same shiat, different parents.
 
2021-11-27 11:53:49 AM  
Some people have no family for some very valid reasons.
 
2021-11-27 11:57:02 AM  

Lifeless: Some people have no family for some very valid reasons.


Says the Farker with no life.
 
2021-11-27 11:57:03 AM  

edmo: "You kids don't know how good you have it."

"Kids have so much stuff that we never had "

"Kids have no manners these days."

"You two have no appreciation for all that we do for you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard all that and more. I'm 62 farking years old. Same shiat, different parents.


I agree, but it seems that when kids don't learn to say "please" and "thank you" as in the article, the parents need to look in the mirror to find someone to blame. FTFA: "Nearly nine in 10 (88%) regularly encourage their children to say "please" and "thank you." " Is 88% enough? No.
 
2021-11-27 11:58:11 AM  
It's very convenient that western civilization peaked with me. That's nice.

Everything else in the year 33 post-Snarco is downhill
 
2021-11-27 11:58:56 AM  
Bad kids have bad parents. If your kids are little shiats, its because you made them that way.
 
2021-11-27 12:02:45 PM  
My (step) grandson, almost 8, said, "fark you" to his mother a couple of weeks ago. That's after twice saying, "I hate you." He thinks he can just do whatever he wants and doesn't have to listen to his mother. I have no say in how his misbehavior is handled, but if he were my kid, ...

/too many thoughts
//I wouldn't know where to begin
///He doesn't even deserve a lump of coal, ungrateful little asshole
 
2021-11-27 12:03:20 PM  
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

― Socrates
 
2021-11-27 12:03:29 PM  
Why would they be thankful? They didn't ask to be born.
 
2021-11-27 12:07:12 PM  
Over half the survey of 1,125 parents with kids between four and 10 years old add they believe they spoil their children too much. Another two in five go even further, saying they're sometimes "embarrassed by how selfish their child acts."

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2021-11-27 12:08:35 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Bad kids have bad parents. If your kids are little shiats, its because you made them that way.


Reminds me of a song that played in Crazy Taxi.  I think by The Offspring. *quick googling*

And all the things you learn when you're a kid
You'll fark up just like your parents did
It all just happens again
Way down the lineAnd welfare moms have kids on welfare
And fat parents they have fat kids too
You know it's never gonna end
The same old cycle's gonna start again
What comes around well it goes around
 
2021-11-27 12:09:18 PM  
There's nothing quite like the look on someone's face as they start to rant about how participation trophies have ruined kids and then you ask them who invented and distributed them.
 
2021-11-27 12:09:49 PM  
This is why I beat the shiat outta my kids. They even look at the wrong way I belt em in the face. Twice if they cry.

Ok, time is almost up in the library booth. When I get out of here there'll be hell to pay. 19 months left.
 
2021-11-27 12:12:58 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Bad kids have bad parents. If your kids are little shiats, its because you made them that way.


this is a grotesque parody of wild oversimplification.

parenting is not a deterministic 'push button, receive bacon' exercise.
 
2021-11-27 12:13:32 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Bad kids have bad parents. If your kids are little shiats, its because you made them that way.


Your parents must have been horrendous
 
2021-11-27 12:18:27 PM  
Ah the good old, it wasn't my fault, if you had been a better kid none of that would have happened. It's your fault for not behaving and doing what you are told.
 
2021-11-27 12:19:15 PM  
Context is needed: parents of children 4-10 years old would be 24-40 years old themselves. They're basically my generation - entered adulthood in the shadow of 9/11 and the financial crisis, and with the dismantling of the social safety net and the increasingly accelerating ruination of the earth in the backdrop. And now we got a pandemic going. Not an easy time to be raising a child!
 
2021-11-27 12:22:41 PM  

Arkanaut: Context is needed: parents of children 4-10 years old would be 24-40 years old themselves. They're basically my generation - entered adulthood in the shadow of 9/11 and the financial crisis, and with the dismantling of the social safety net and the increasingly accelerating ruination of the earth in the backdrop. And now we got a pandemic going. Not an easy time to be raising a child!


You forgot covid, and we can't vaccinate our young ones.
 
2021-11-27 12:23:11 PM  
As a Gen X parent I know my generation was the last one to have it semi-good as we fed off the scraps the Boomers left us. I managed to get through my first-degree debt free, but Ontario did away with grants before my second so OSAP it was. We managed to buy a house, somehow and stayed in it 'till the divorce. So now I rent and guard the scraps of the house profit so my kids can at least get some kind of head start.
 
2021-11-27 12:24:49 PM  
True for everyone. You appreciate things you had to work for more than things just given to you.
 
2021-11-27 12:25:03 PM  

Kat09tails: Man, just wait til they find out about the crippling debt that goes with higher education. That will make them grateful for any scraps they're handed in their 20's while they decide about needing a 4th roommate to afford rent, insulin, and heat.


good news is you don't have to go to college to become a social media influencer.

/or learn how to edit video and media to make money "working with aspiring influencers".
//sell shovels in a gold rush
 
2021-11-27 12:26:23 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

― Socrates


Misattributed:

"It was crafted by a student, Kenneth John Freeman, for his Cambridge dissertation published in 1907. Freeman did not claim that the passage under analysis was a direct quotation of anyone; instead, he was presenting his own summary of the complaints directed against young people in ancient times."

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/
 
2021-11-27 12:29:27 PM  

kittyhas1000legs: Gyrfalcon: Bad kids have bad parents. If your kids are little shiats, its because you made them that way.

Reminds me of a song that played in Crazy Taxi.  I think by The Offspring. *quick googling*

And all the things you learn when you're a kid
You'll fark up just like your parents did
It all just happens again
Way down the lineAnd welfare moms have kids on welfare
And fat parents they have fat kids too
You know it's never gonna end
The same old cycle's gonna start again
What comes around well it goes around


"They fark you up your mum and dad
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had,
And add some extra, just for you."
-Philip Larkin
 
2021-11-27 12:29:30 PM  
The active shooter drills cut into time previously devoted to manners.

/ yes yes, parental responsibility too.
 
2021-11-27 12:30:06 PM  
Most children seem to have really shiatty role models. "Do as I say, not as I do" was always a terrible farking philosophy and a large part of the problem.
 
2021-11-27 12:31:01 PM  

geekbikerskum: Madman drummers bummers: "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

― Socrates

Misattributed:

"It was crafted by a student, Kenneth John Freeman, for his Cambridge dissertation published in 1907. Freeman did not claim that the passage under analysis was a direct quotation of anyone; instead, he was presenting his own summary of the complaints directed against young people in ancient times."

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/


Socrates was class of 1902, as all recent products of the US educational system know.
 
2021-11-27 12:32:54 PM  
A random 10 year old kid's phone, is more expensive than their parents.
 
2021-11-27 12:33:59 PM  

Arkanaut: Context is needed: parents of children 4-10 years old would be 24-40 years old themselves. They're basically my generation - entered adulthood in the shadow of 9/11 and the financial crisis, and with the dismantling of the social safety net and the increasingly accelerating ruination of the earth in the backdrop. And now we got a pandemic going. Not an easy time to be raising a child!


Waves from said demographic

not easy and definitely different.  Get used to your kids cussing thanks to social media. Instead of fighting it, we have made it a point when is the correct time to use it.  They are home words.  You can say them at home, but not in public or around company.

They are still fun.  Recently learned that one of the squirrels in the backyard is thicc.

Slate Money recent podcast had a nice discussion about how gaming cultures amongst the nerdy are different on a generational scale.  Nintendo circa the 80s was a solo experience vs. massive multi-players for kids to start off with today.

designed games vs. free world

Fist Bumps for Zelda has a transcript too.
 
2021-11-27 12:35:09 PM  
Article's theme song:
Curtis Mayfield - Diamond in the Back
Youtube ZVANQheoRUw
 
2021-11-27 12:35:35 PM  

geekbikerskum: Madman drummers bummers: "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

― Socrates

Misattributed:

"It was crafted by a student, Kenneth John Freeman, for his Cambridge dissertation published in 1907. Freeman did not claim that the passage under analysis was a direct quotation of anyone; instead, he was presenting his own summary of the complaints directed against young people in ancient times."

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/


Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

-Abraham Lincoln
 
2021-11-27 12:35:41 PM  

noitsnot: geekbikerskum: Madman drummers bummers: "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

― Socrates

Misattributed:

"It was crafted by a student, Kenneth John Freeman, for his Cambridge dissertation published in 1907. Freeman did not claim that the passage under analysis was a direct quotation of anyone; instead, he was presenting his own summary of the complaints directed against young people in ancient times."

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/

Socrates was class of 1902, as all recent products of the US educational system know.


Didn't Socrates go to San Dimas High School circa 1988?
 
2021-11-27 12:36:49 PM  
"Kids these days have it so easy!!"

previously....

"I'm going to provide the best life I can for my children so they won't have to suffer the ways I had to!!"

Which is it society, pick a lane
 
2021-11-27 12:39:09 PM  
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Here's what me being told to be thankful for what I have might have looked like. Be thankful for being introduced to lung cancer and a drinking problem I guess.
 
2021-11-27 12:40:20 PM  

Arkanaut: noitsnot: geekbikerskum: Madman drummers bummers: "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

― Socrates

Misattributed:

"It was crafted by a student, Kenneth John Freeman, for his Cambridge dissertation published in 1907. Freeman did not claim that the passage under analysis was a direct quotation of anyone; instead, he was presenting his own summary of the complaints directed against young people in ancient times."

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/

Socrates was class of 1902, as all recent products of the US educational system know.

Didn't Socrates go to San Dimas High School circa 1988?


His classmates were most wise.

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2021-11-27 12:41:58 PM  
I have very polite and thoughtful kids. I'm very thankful, and constantly surprised, because I was a delinquent shiat.
 
2021-11-27 12:42:08 PM  

stuffy: True for everyone. You appreciate things you had to work for more than things just given to you.


What? You mean kids don't spring from the womb fully formed with 30 years of memories and experience? I am befuddled at this revelation.
 
2021-11-27 12:42:39 PM  

Grumpy Cat: My (step) grandson, almost 8, said, "fark you" to his mother a couple of weeks ago. That's after twice saying, "I hate you." He thinks he can just do whatever he wants and doesn't have to listen to his mother. I have no say in how his misbehavior is handled, but if he were my kid, ...

/too many thoughts
//I wouldn't know where to begin
///He doesn't even deserve a lump of coal, ungrateful little asshole


ouch.  Yeah, that has only happened once in my house.  Daughter learned that freedom to use such words does not excuse one the consequences of doing so.
/She learned momma don't play and can be the bigger "fish"
//There's always a bigger fish
 
2021-11-27 12:44:05 PM  

edmo: "You kids don't know how good you have it."

"Kids have so much stuff that we never had "

"Kids have no manners these days."

"You two have no appreciation for all that we do for you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard all that and more. I'm 62 farking years old. Same shiat, different parents.


"Sorry life sucks and we could not get a handle on it. Here are the current issues and what I think are the best means of handling them. You have more education than I did at your age, what do you think about the situation?"

Has been a large part of my go to.

Then people suggest my kids are weird.
 
2021-11-27 12:46:45 PM  
I was raised right and I still ended up posting on Fark.com
 
2021-11-27 12:48:29 PM  
People think their kids aren't gracious enough? That's because assholes generally raise more assholes.
 
2021-11-27 12:50:12 PM  
Nexstar Media is trying to be Sinclair.

To Hell with them both.
 
2021-11-27 12:50:51 PM  

Grumpy Cat: My (step) grandson, almost 8, said, "fark you" to his mother a couple of weeks ago. That's after twice saying, "I hate you." He thinks he can just do whatever he wants and doesn't have to listen to his mother. I have no say in how his misbehavior is handled, but if he were my kid, ...

/too many thoughts
//I wouldn't know where to begin
///He doesn't even deserve a lump of coal, ungrateful little asshole


Time to get his mom a nice thick leather belt.

I suppose one can use the Boondocks as a teaching assistant.
 
2021-11-27 12:51:17 PM  

Hyjamon: Grumpy Cat: My (step) grandson, almost 8, said, "fark you" to his mother a couple of weeks ago. That's after twice saying, "I hate you." He thinks he can just do whatever he wants and doesn't have to listen to his mother. I have no say in how his misbehavior is handled, but if he were my kid, ...

/too many thoughts
//I wouldn't know where to begin
///He doesn't even deserve a lump of coal, ungrateful little asshole

ouch.  Yeah, that has only happened once in my house.  Daughter learned that freedom to use such words does not excuse one the consequences of doing so.
/She learned momma don't play and can be the bigger "fish"
//There's always a bigger fish


I'm hoping it's only this one time, but I doubt it. His mother is useless, unfortunately. (But, she is sweet. Not worthy of hate or the ultimate insult.) He was punished for a few days, but I don't think it was enough. At all.

My mother would have killed me if I said those things to her. But, it never occurred to me to do it. Have some respect, kiddo.
 
2021-11-27 12:51:43 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: A random 10 year old kid's phone, is more expensive than their parents.


How much does a pair of parents cost where you live?
 
2021-11-27 12:53:09 PM  
I'm looking forward to when kids can dig through social media backlogs if they have bitter, cranky kids-these-days-and-their-music parents. They will be able to shut down any attempts of "We always went straight home and did our homework and I never sassed back" with actual videos of Mom and Dad in high school.
 
2021-11-27 12:58:46 PM  

Paul Baumer: There's nothing quite like the look on someone's face as they start to rant about how participation trophies have ruined kids and then you ask them who invented and distributed them.


I threw mine away before middle school. Even as a kid, they felt extremely patronizing. "Here's a trophy for being useless." Thanks. Exactly what I wanted. A piece of plastic to commemorate how garbage I was at soccer, so I can look back fondly and say, "Yep. Here's physical proof that I had no athletic talent whatsoever. I sure don't want to forget that memory."
 
2021-11-27 1:01:05 PM  

GranoblasticMan: Paul Baumer: There's nothing quite like the look on someone's face as they start to rant about how participation trophies have ruined kids and then you ask them who invented and distributed them.

I threw mine away before middle school. Even as a kid, they felt extremely patronizing. "Here's a trophy for being useless." Thanks. Exactly what I wanted. A piece of plastic to commemorate how garbage I was at soccer, so I can look back fondly and say, "Yep. Here's physical proof that I had no athletic talent whatsoever. I sure don't want to forget that memory."


Only ones I keep are marathon and half marathon medals. Ya spend 80- a few hundred plus travel to run 13.1-26.2 miles.

Damn Skippy I'm keeping my heavy chunk of metals for volunteering to run for an hour and 40 minutes to over 4 hours.
 
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