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2021-11-26 8:32:10 PM  
Was it government mandated? No, then it's not censorship, it was a broadcaster modifying the content however the f*ck they want to.
Don't like it? Unsubscribe from the service and outright BUY a copy. Otherwise, STFU.
 
2021-11-26 8:34:33 PM  
I can't understand why they would even do this in the first place.  Just looking at what they routinely did on HBO, it seems odd to even bother going after anything in this movie.
 
2021-11-26 8:45:05 PM  
They've been doing this forever
 
2021-11-26 8:59:51 PM  

Bslim: Was it government mandated? No, then it's not censorship, it was a broadcaster modifying the content however the f*ck they want to.
Don't like it? Unsubscribe from the service and outright BUY a copy. Otherwise, STFU.


Censorship, conceptually, can be done at a non-governmental level, though of course that is separate from First Ammendment considerations.

However, taking the company line from TFA at its face, this was a mistake that has now been corrected.
 
2021-11-26 9:03:07 PM  

Hoban Washburne: Bslim: Was it government mandated? No, then it's not censorship, it was a broadcaster modifying the content however the f*ck they want to.
Don't like it? Unsubscribe from the service and outright BUY a copy. Otherwise, STFU.

Censorship, conceptually, can be done at a non-governmental level, though of course that is separate from First Ammendment considerations.

However, taking the company line from TFA at its face, this was a mistake that has now been corrected.


They probably had a Mr Falcon cut for showing on planes or licensing for cable and someone dropped the wrong file on the wrong server. That makes a lot more sense.
 
2021-11-26 9:03:22 PM  
They're not a government agency, they're protecting their brand.
 
2021-11-26 9:26:40 PM  
A long time ago, the big cable guys were a welcome place to see uncensored, unedited movies. Yeah, I'm old.
 
2021-11-26 9:27:23 PM  
Whatever the dictionary definition of "censorship" is, HBO editing a movie they're running is bullshiat. There's no FCC regulations, HBO doesn't have sponsors like basic cable. There's no reason to edit anything.

Netflix had the TV edit of Back to the Future II for a while before it was corrected.

WTF could have been in BTTF 2 that needed to be edited for TV? Did the holographic Jaws look too real?
 
2021-11-26 9:33:28 PM  

Mugato: Whatever the dictionary definition of "censorship" is, HBO editing a movie they're running is bullshiat. There's no FCC regulations, HBO doesn't have sponsors like basic cable. There's no reason to edit anything.

Netflix had the TV edit of Back to the Future II for a while before it was corrected.

WTF could have been in BTTF 2 that needed to be edited for TV? Did the holographic Jaws look too real?


https://backtothefuture.fandom.com/wi​k​i/Edited_for_television
 
2021-11-26 10:12:36 PM  
Does TFA say exactly what the edit was and I missed it?

If you don't want people getting their news from edgelords, then say the thing that everyone wants to know.  Media outlets being too weak-willed to name the offensive thing are just forcing people to find other sources.
 
2021-11-26 10:18:26 PM  

Naido: Does TFA say exactly what the edit was and I missed it?

If you don't want people getting their news from edgelords, then say the thing that everyone wants to know.  Media outlets being too weak-willed to name the offensive thing are just forcing people to find other sources.


Or they want to broaden the audience
Not everything is a conspiracy
 
2021-11-26 10:21:07 PM  

cretinbob: They've been doing this forever


Yep. They ran an R and a PG version of Saturday Night Fever back in the day.
 
2021-11-26 10:27:15 PM  

Mugato: Whatever the dictionary definition of "censorship" is, HBO editing a movie they're running is bullshiat. There's no FCC regulations, HBO doesn't have sponsors like basic cable. There's no reason to edit anything.

Netflix had the TV edit of Back to the Future II for a while before it was corrected.

WTF could have been in BTTF 2 that needed to be edited for TV? Did the holographic Jaws look too real?


Probably one too many "shiat" lines or something similar.  All cable companies are allowed to air whatever they want (short of child porn, etc.), though all have some form of internal standards and practices.  HBO has had a long history of not holding anything back short of full penetration.  If this movie earned an R rating in theaters, I actually tend to believe the company line that showing the edited version was a mistake.
 
2021-11-26 10:32:53 PM  

Hoban Washburne: Probably one too many "shiat" lines or something similar.


Yeah, it's been so long since I've seen a movie on TV I never think about the ess word.
 
2021-11-26 10:39:36 PM  

Garza and the Supermutants: cretinbob: They've been doing this forever

Yep. They ran an R and a PG version of Saturday Night Fever back in the day.


Lots of movies get edited for tv. Iirc there's even a tv edit of Blazing Saddles. I think it runs about 10 minutes, but still.
This isn't new.

People shiatting themselves about every little perceived slight is, and that's what this is.
 
2021-11-26 11:01:45 PM  

cretinbob: Garza and the Supermutants: cretinbob: They've been doing this forever

Yep. They ran an R and a PG version of Saturday Night Fever back in the day.

Lots of movies get edited for tv. Iirc there's even a tv edit of Blazing Saddles. I think it runs about 10 minutes, but still.
This isn't new.

People shiatting themselves about every little perceived slight is, and that's what this is.


It isn't Oh My Gawd!  It's why even do it?  Editing for TV is for runtime, commercial breaks not cutting action sequences in half, and avoiding broadcast language rules.  None of these apply to HBO's streaming service.  This is like buying a ridiculously over-powered car, carrying it to a drag strip - and then chaining it to three of the anchors from the USS Enterprise before the lights turn.  Ain't nobody going to take you seriously at that point.  Especially since it is HBO. "We don't allow no potty-potty" from HBO is perplexing as shiat.  I can go right now and watch Blam-Blam Baltimore on Tourette's, i.e. The Wire, just fine.  Birds of Prey isn't anywhere near as violent or narsty-mouthed.
 
2021-11-26 11:10:14 PM  

Hoban Washburne: Mugato: Whatever the dictionary definition of "censorship" is, HBO editing a movie they're running is bullshiat. There's no FCC regulations, HBO doesn't have sponsors like basic cable. There's no reason to edit anything.

Netflix had the TV edit of Back to the Future II for a while before it was corrected.

WTF could have been in BTTF 2 that needed to be edited for TV? Did the holographic Jaws look too real?

Probably one too many "shiat" lines or something similar.  All cable companies are allowed to air whatever they want (short of child porn, etc.), though all have some form of internal standards and practices.  HBO has had a long history of not holding anything back short of full penetration.  If this movie earned an R rating in theaters, I actually tend to believe the company line that showing the edited version was a mistake.


TFA makes mention of blurring out something on a t-shirt, but doesn't say what was on the shirt.  Also doesn't say if that was the only thing.
 
2021-11-27 12:08:05 AM  

phalamir: cretinbob: Garza and the Supermutants: cretinbob: They've been doing this forever

Yep. They ran an R and a PG version of Saturday Night Fever back in the day.

Lots of movies get edited for tv. Iirc there's even a tv edit of Blazing Saddles. I think it runs about 10 minutes, but still.
This isn't new.

People shiatting themselves about every little perceived slight is, and that's what this is.

It isn't Oh My Gawd!  It's why even do it?  Editing for TV is for runtime, commercial breaks not cutting action sequences in half, and avoiding broadcast language rules.  None of these apply to HBO's streaming service.  This is like buying a ridiculously over-powered car, carrying it to a drag strip - and then chaining it to three of the anchors from the USS Enterprise before the lights turn.  Ain't nobody going to take you seriously at that point.  Especially since it is HBO. "We don't allow no potty-potty" from HBO is perplexing as shiat.  I can go right now and watch Blam-Blam Baltimore on Tourette's, i.e. The Wire, just fine.  Birds of Prey isn't anywhere near as violent or narsty-mouthed.


You were told why they do it.
This is people thinking they know something they don't but complaining anyway.

Wasn't this a shiatty movie to begin with?
 
2021-11-27 1:45:23 AM  

cretinbob: phalamir: cretinbob: Garza and the Supermutants: cretinbob: They've been doing this forever

Yep. They ran an R and a PG version of Saturday Night Fever back in the day.

Lots of movies get edited for tv. Iirc there's even a tv edit of Blazing Saddles. I think it runs about 10 minutes, but still.
This isn't new.

People shiatting themselves about every little perceived slight is, and that's what this is.

It isn't Oh My Gawd!  It's why even do it?  Editing for TV is for runtime, commercial breaks not cutting action sequences in half, and avoiding broadcast language rules.  None of these apply to HBO's streaming service.  This is like buying a ridiculously over-powered car, carrying it to a drag strip - and then chaining it to three of the anchors from the USS Enterprise before the lights turn.  Ain't nobody going to take you seriously at that point.  Especially since it is HBO. "We don't allow no potty-potty" from HBO is perplexing as shiat.  I can go right now and watch Blam-Blam Baltimore on Tourette's, i.e. The Wire, just fine.  Birds of Prey isn't anywhere near as violent or narsty-mouthed.

You were told why they do it.
This is people thinking they know something they don't but complaining anyway.

Wasn't this a shiatty movie to begin with?


It was okay.  I wouldn't have went to a theater to see it, but it was fine on TV late one evening.  But the cursing wasn't any of the problems.  To be honest, I don't even remember there being cursing - I mean, there had to have been, but it wasn't a Tarantino flick or something.  Pacing, some rather iffy fight choreography, and not enough goofiness were bigger problems - I know they wanted to showcase Margo Robbie flaunting it, but her doing Manic Pixie Dream Girl while everyone else was auditioning for Zach Snyder's Emo-Edge: Edge of Emo made it too jarring.
 
2021-11-27 1:57:58 AM  
They uploaded a PG cut, probably by mistake?

What lower form of life even noticed this? Who's watching this awkward sort-of-semi-sequel 18 months after release and is familiar enough with the original cut? This whole thing was a waste of talent, and not just McGregor, this was even a waste of the little girl from the Cosby Show.
 
2021-11-27 2:01:41 AM  

Bslim: Don't like it? Unsubscribe from the service and outright BUY a copy.


I am mad at this and my response is to give more money to the company that angered me
 
2021-11-27 2:17:58 AM  

cretinbob: phalamir: cretinbob: Garza and the Supermutants: cretinbob: They've been doing this forever

Yep. They ran an R and a PG version of Saturday Night Fever back in the day.

Lots of movies get edited for tv. Iirc there's even a tv edit of Blazing Saddles. I think it runs about 10 minutes, but still.
This isn't new.

People shiatting themselves about every little perceived slight is, and that's what this is.

It isn't Oh My Gawd!  It's why even do it?  Editing for TV is for runtime, commercial breaks not cutting action sequences in half, and avoiding broadcast language rules.  None of these apply to HBO's streaming service.  This is like buying a ridiculously over-powered car, carrying it to a drag strip - and then chaining it to three of the anchors from the USS Enterprise before the lights turn.  Ain't nobody going to take you seriously at that point.  Especially since it is HBO. "We don't allow no potty-potty" from HBO is perplexing as shiat.  I can go right now and watch Blam-Blam Baltimore on Tourette's, i.e. The Wire, just fine.  Birds of Prey isn't anywhere near as violent or narsty-mouthed.

You were told why they do it.
This is people thinking they know something they don't but complaining anyway.

Wasn't this a shiatty movie to begin with?


Hey, it was the #6 top grossing movie of the year it was released...


...mainly because it was one of the last movies released in the Before Times
 
2021-11-27 2:29:27 AM  

Naido: Hoban Washburne: Mugato: Whatever the dictionary definition of "censorship" is, HBO editing a movie they're running is bullshiat. There's no FCC regulations, HBO doesn't have sponsors like basic cable. There's no reason to edit anything.

Netflix had the TV edit of Back to the Future II for a while before it was corrected.

WTF could have been in BTTF 2 that needed to be edited for TV? Did the holographic Jaws look too real?

Probably one too many "shiat" lines or something similar.  All cable companies are allowed to air whatever they want (short of child porn, etc.), though all have some form of internal standards and practices.  HBO has had a long history of not holding anything back short of full penetration.  If this movie earned an R rating in theaters, I actually tend to believe the company line that showing the edited version was a mistake.

TFA makes mention of blurring out something on a t-shirt, but doesn't say what was on the shirt.  Also doesn't say if that was the only thing.


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2021-11-27 2:38:13 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: cretinbob: They've been doing this forever

Yep. They ran an R and a PG version of Saturday Night Fever back in the day.


Also Excalibur.
 
2021-11-27 2:51:04 AM  
Some low level employee mentally checked out for Thanksgiving accidentally uploads a file with a similar name to the intended one. More at 11.
 
2021-11-27 3:08:34 AM  

Naido: If you don't want people getting their news from edgelords, then say the thing that everyone wants to know.


Ok, I have a huge penis.

/I'm not sure if everyone really wanted to know that, but I really wanted them to know that.
 
2021-11-27 3:20:06 AM  
Unless I'm reading the article incorrectly, it was merely a case of some cog uploading the wrong version.
 
2021-11-27 3:44:40 AM  

NeoCortex42: I can't understand why they would even do this in the first place.  Just looking at what they routinely did on HBO, it seems odd to even bother going after anything in this movie.


I know everyone loves a grand conspiracy but in all likelihood it was Billy the Techkid uploading birds_movie_2019_en_cen.mp4 when he meant to click birds_movie_2019_en_uncen.mp4 and nobody bothered to check since the movie was hot garbage.

Occam's Razor
 
2021-11-27 3:53:05 AM  
Fromhttps://www.cbr.com/harley-quin​n-hbo-m​ax-censors-birds-of-prey/

UPDATE: A Warner Bros. spokesperson confirmed the broadcast cable version of the film was mistakenly added to the service. The unedited original version will be available on HBO Max instead.This article can be read as it originally appeared below.
 
2021-11-27 4:19:05 AM  
"Birds of Prey's Broadcast Cable Version Was 'Mistakenly Added' to HBO Max and the Unedited Version Will Return"

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2021-11-27 5:30:39 AM  
Headline:Ermahgerd they're doing the thing, the bad thing!

Article: Oops, wrong version we are fixing it.
 
2021-11-27 8:33:19 AM  
They cut Nymphomaniac. Which I can understand (duh), but why even bother with Lars von Trier if you're going to edit it?
 
2021-11-27 8:36:22 AM  
nobody watched it in theaters, so how does anyone know for sure?
 
2021-11-27 8:44:07 AM  

moothemagiccow: They uploaded a PG cut, probably by mistake?

What lower form of life even noticed this? Who's watching this awkward sort-of-semi-sequel 18 months after release and is familiar enough with the original cut? This whole thing was a waste of talent, and not just McGregor, this was even a waste of the little girl from the Cosby Show.


They noticed it because of the "this was modified from its original version" disclaimer at the beginning. They were then on the lookout for what was changed.
 
2021-11-27 9:09:20 AM  
Was it a all naked women scene in the unedited version?
 
2021-11-27 9:37:47 AM  
Spotify is notorious for this shiat, even for paid subscribers.
 
2021-11-27 9:42:14 AM  

FarkerMcFarkface: moothemagiccow: They uploaded a PG cut, probably by mistake?

What lower form of life even noticed this? Who's watching this awkward sort-of-semi-sequel 18 months after release and is familiar enough with the original cut? This whole thing was a waste of talent, and not just McGregor, this was even a waste of the little girl from the Cosby Show.

They noticed it because of the "this was modified from its original version" disclaimer at the beginning. They were then on the lookout for what was changed.


I've only seen the film once but I've seen enough TV edits to recognize them pretty quickly. Even without the disclaimer it wouldn't be tough to figure out this was the tamer version.

One of the many reasons I don't watch movies on cable.
 
2021-11-27 9:57:45 AM  

cretinbob: phalamir: cretinbob: Garza and the Supermutants: cretinbob: They've been doing this forever

Yep. They ran an R and a PG version of Saturday Night Fever back in the day.

Lots of movies get edited for tv. Iirc there's even a tv edit of Blazing Saddles. I think it runs about 10 minutes, but still.
This isn't new.

People shiatting themselves about every little perceived slight is, and that's what this is.

It isn't Oh My Gawd!  It's why even do it?  Editing for TV is for runtime, commercial breaks not cutting action sequences in half, and avoiding broadcast language rules.  None of these apply to HBO's streaming service.  This is like buying a ridiculously over-powered car, carrying it to a drag strip - and then chaining it to three of the anchors from the USS Enterprise before the lights turn.  Ain't nobody going to take you seriously at that point.  Especially since it is HBO. "We don't allow no potty-potty" from HBO is perplexing as shiat.  I can go right now and watch Blam-Blam Baltimore on Tourette's, i.e. The Wire, just fine.  Birds of Prey isn't anywhere near as violent or narsty-mouthed.

You were told why they do it.
This is people thinking they know something they don't but complaining anyway.

Wasn't this a shiatty movie to begin with?


I thought it was very funny.  Not terrible.  A bit dumb, but nothing's really wrong with that.

If you're looking for a stupid movie with jokes and explosions, and you like Harley Quinn, it's not really that bad.
 
2021-11-27 10:05:06 AM  
Cutting the dross out of movies? Not always bad.  And if they get rid of the gratuitous scenes that are not germane to the actual story why would I care?

/ Females roll their eyes when directors add gratuitous scenes that only appeal to males.   Would any woman choose to show a rape scene like 'Excaliber's?
 
2021-11-27 10:24:59 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Was it a all naked women scene in the unedited version?


that's only in the version edited for Cinemax
 
2021-11-27 11:03:34 AM  

Naido: Hoban Washburne: Mugato: Whatever the dictionary definition of "censorship" is, HBO editing a movie they're running is bullshiat. There's no FCC regulations, HBO doesn't have sponsors like basic cable. There's no reason to edit anything.

Netflix had the TV edit of Back to the Future II for a while before it was corrected.

WTF could have been in BTTF 2 that needed to be edited for TV? Did the holographic Jaws look too real?

Probably one too many "shiat" lines or something similar.  All cable companies are allowed to air whatever they want (short of child porn, etc.), though all have some form of internal standards and practices.  HBO has had a long history of not holding anything back short of full penetration.  If this movie earned an R rating in theaters, I actually tend to believe the company line that showing the edited version was a mistake.

TFA makes mention of blurring out something on a t-shirt, but doesn't say what was on the shirt.  Also doesn't say if that was the only thing.


Right.  I was referring to Back to the Future 2 having a tv edit.
 
2021-11-27 11:11:32 AM  
It's not censorship, it's an IT problem. Call the help desk.
 
2021-11-27 4:16:21 PM  
What Disney is doing in China is censorship
 
2021-11-27 6:07:46 PM  
Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn)

For the love of God, do not let 10-year-old girls name your movie.
 
2021-11-27 7:54:04 PM  

Jake Havechek: They're not a government agency, they're protecting their brand.


If they were doing that they would just delete this pile of crap and move on.
 
2021-11-27 8:31:42 PM  
They should have deleted about 90% of the movie, because it sucked.

/big Margot Robbie fan, but even she couldn't save it
 
2021-11-27 8:35:10 PM  

GoodHomer: They should have deleted about 90% of the movie, because it sucked.

/big Margot Robbie fan, but even she couldn't save it


/Oh, also big Mary Elizabeth Winstead fan, and her scenes shouldn't be cut
 
2021-11-27 9:52:17 PM  

puckrock2000: Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn)

For the love of God, do not let 10-year-old girls name your movie.


It's a farking trash comicbook movie. That is the target audience. Go outside. Learn to read.
 
2021-11-27 10:27:12 PM  
I'm sad for the people who noticed
 
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