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2021-11-24 5:33:00 PM  
Gov. Kristi Noem instigated the legal fight to strike down the amendment passed by voters in November.

The party of small government and freedom, fighting a voter passed law change.
 
2021-11-24 5:46:52 PM  
Yeah, you're right. If states like North Dakota don't need MJ, who does?
 
2021-11-24 6:15:47 PM  
The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.
 
2021-11-24 6:23:56 PM  

Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.


If Obama didn't do it, why would Biden?
 
2021-11-24 6:24:03 PM  
As always, and without exception, conservatives prove themselves to be human garbage.
 
2021-11-24 6:24:12 PM  
The lesson here is that single subject rules are the devil.
 
2021-11-24 6:24:40 PM  
Have Biden Nuke SD.

Problem solved.
 
2021-11-24 6:25:23 PM  
Gov. Kristi Noem instigated the legal fight to strike down the amendment passed by voters in November

God, what a loser.
 
2021-11-24 6:26:10 PM  

Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.


This one only had cannabis. But it dealt with recreational marijuana, medicinal marijuana, and industrial hemp.

Say you only do recreational. Could argue that repealing the multiple laws making it illegal (small possession, intent to distribute, ingestion, etc) means multiple subjects. Can you set up a regulatory framework in the amendment? What about directing the legislature to do so?

Single subject rule sucks.
 
2021-11-24 6:26:29 PM  

Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.


Most federal murmurs in that direction specifically leave it up to the states if they want to keep it illegal.

/ Poor sick bird
 
2021-11-24 6:27:02 PM  

majestic: Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.

If Obama didn't do it, why would Biden?


Biden is against legalization, so he won't do it. We need some new politician who doesn't yell "Get a haircut hippie!" each time someone asks them to do something the people ask for.
 
2021-11-24 6:30:48 PM  
It's been legal coast to coast in Canada for a few years now and I haven't noticed a farking difference. Pot smokers still smoke it. People that don't still don't. Big deal. It's not like the stuff has ever been hard to find pretending that making it illegal is somehow keeping it away from citizens is nothing but pure delusion.
 
2021-11-24 6:30:58 PM  

Dafatone: Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.

This one only had cannabis. But it dealt with recreational marijuana, medicinal marijuana, and industrial hemp.

Say you only do recreational. Could argue that repealing the multiple laws making it illegal (small possession, intent to distribute, ingestion, etc) means multiple subjects. Can you set up a regulatory framework in the amendment? What about directing the legislature to do so?

Single subject rule sucks.


Pick a goddamn weight limit and move it through! 15 grams? Sure. That's recreational. 16 grams? You're a dealer.

It's not hard. They did it here in DC.
 
2021-11-24 6:31:34 PM  

Lsherm: Dafatone: Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.

This one only had cannabis. But it dealt with recreational marijuana, medicinal marijuana, and industrial hemp.

Say you only do recreational. Could argue that repealing the multiple laws making it illegal (small possession, intent to distribute, ingestion, etc) means multiple subjects. Can you set up a regulatory framework in the amendment? What about directing the legislature to do so?

Single subject rule sucks.

Pick a goddamn weight limit and move it through! 15 grams? Sure. That's recreational. 16 grams? You're a dealer.

It's not hard. They did it here in DC.


But if you're changing two different laws, one could argue it's two subjects.
 
2021-11-24 6:32:50 PM  
Gov. Kristi Noem instigated the legal fight to strike down the amendment passed by voters in November.

Republicans hate democracy and freedom.
 
2021-11-24 6:33:21 PM  
Noem praised the decision, and noted that it would not change how she implements a separate, voter-passed law that legalizes medical marijuana.

That other initiative was due to be initiated last July. Noem has been slow walking it since the original election and will do her best to make sure it never happens. Meanwhile, she runs constant television ads patting herself on the back for what a great job she is doing addressing it "the right way."*

*conservaspeak for "doing what we want"
 
2021-11-24 6:34:13 PM  

aleister_greynight: Gov. Kristi Noem instigated the legal fight to strike down the amendment passed by voters in November.

The party of small government and freedom, fighting a voter passed law change.


On a technicality ...
 
2021-11-24 6:35:27 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Have Biden Nuke SD.

Problem solved.


I'd be in favor of just giving the state back to the indigenous people.  Hell, both Dakotas.  We sure as hell aren't using them for anything good, and the tribes will take better care of the land.
 
2021-11-24 6:35:44 PM  

Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.


I predict the Democrats will do this in March 2022.

75% of Americans support it. It would make the Republicans look like the retrograde thugs that they are and possibly peel some Fark Independent goodwill.
 
2021-11-24 6:39:30 PM  
Even most Republicans under 40 support legalization. Especially (only) for white people.
 
2021-11-24 6:40:04 PM  
This is at least the 2nd time they have done this in SD.

A while ago voters passed an anti corruption referendum.
The state legislature and courts struck it down.

Personally I think the worst one occurred in Missouri, when they shut down a referendum to crack down on puppy mills.
 
2021-11-24 6:41:51 PM  
If marijuana is legalized, colored folks will start playing jazz music and reading newspapers printed on hemp paper instead of wood pulp paper!!!1!
 
2021-11-24 6:41:54 PM  
Who needs medical marijuana when you have loads of pool cleaner and delicious horse worm paste?
 
2021-11-24 6:45:30 PM  

Gawdzila: AmbassadorBooze: Have Biden Nuke SD.

Problem solved.

I'd be in favor of just giving the state back to the indigenous people.  Hell, both Dakotas.  We sure as hell aren't using them for anything good, and the tribes will take better care of the land.


The land is tainted.  It has republican on it.  Do you really advocate giving back tainted unusable land?  The only solution is to nuke it, and then drill a bore hole down to the molten liquid rock of the core of the earth and let the lava and maga flow over the land, reclaiming it and sealing in the taint.  Then, give the land back, after a mile of new crust has formed.
 
2021-11-24 6:46:51 PM  
You think that methy hell hole would have embraced weed. There's really no other reason to go there still, outside of tax evasion.
 
2021-11-24 6:47:22 PM  
in other news, six boardering sates stand to make a fook ton of money now if they have legal over the counter weed for sale.
 
2021-11-24 6:47:34 PM  

thealgorerhythm: Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.

I predict the Democrats will do this in March 2022.

75% of Americans support it. It would make the Republicans look like the retrograde thugs that they are and possibly peel some Fark Independent goodwill.


No way. I can't think of any democrat openly pushing for federal re-scheduling of marijuana. Everybody wants to "leave it up to the states" just in case they need to push for something later.
 
2021-11-24 6:47:54 PM  

arrogantbastich: You think that methy hell hole would have embraced weed. There's really no other reason to go there still, outside of tax evasion.


Child prostitution is a big draw.

At least according to the billboards I saw there a couple of years ago.
 
2021-11-24 6:48:16 PM  
It's okay. I'm sure Colorado is perfectly happy to keep siphoning away all that revenue you could be spending on stuff you *do* actually want, idiots.
 
2021-11-24 6:49:17 PM  

aleister_greynight: Gov. Kristi Noem instigated the legal fight to strike down the amendment passed by voters in November.

The party of small government and freedom, fighting a voter passed law change.


It is small federal government. Conservatives have always supported state governments strong enough to keep people in chains.
 
2021-11-24 6:50:20 PM  

thealgorerhythm: arrogantbastich: You think that methy hell hole would have embraced weed. There's really no other reason to go there still, outside of tax evasion.

Child prostitution is a big draw.

At least according to the billboards I saw there a couple of years ago.


If we're going off their billboards, also country music. Is there a correlation? You decide.
 
2021-11-24 6:50:38 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: let the maga flow over the land,


Are you *mad*?!?! That's how we got here in the first place!!!
 
2021-11-24 6:51:20 PM  

EqualOpportunityEnslaver: AmbassadorBooze: let the maga flow over the land,

Are you *mad*?!?! That's how we got here in the first place!!!


Whoops.  Magma.
 
2021-11-24 6:53:45 PM  

Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.


It will get taken off the schedule A... someday.  And federal penalties will be (officially) removed... someday.

BUT... AGAIN... THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LEGALIZING IT DOES NOTHING FOR THE STATES.

States themselves would still need to legalize and set it up on their own.  It will not automatically make it legal in every state.

/Also, interesting, how republicans in charge CONSTANTLY fighting and undermining their own voters legally passed referendums never hurts them.
 
2021-11-24 6:54:45 PM  

Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

...


And the US Congress should also deal with one thing at a time. The people who wrote the Constitution didn't see how corrupt it can get when legislators can create a bill that addresses various things, and then start trading horses.
 
2021-11-24 6:57:32 PM  

Lsherm: Dafatone: Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.

This one only had cannabis. But it dealt with recreational marijuana, medicinal marijuana, and industrial hemp.

Say you only do recreational. Could argue that repealing the multiple laws making it illegal (small possession, intent to distribute, ingestion, etc) means multiple subjects. Can you set up a regulatory framework in the amendment? What about directing the legislature to do so?

Single subject rule sucks.

Pick a goddamn weight limit and move it through! 15 grams? Sure. That's recreational. 16 grams? You're a dealer.

It's not hard. They did it here in DC.


"Good day, kind sir!  I would like to purchase 15 grams of your finest Jazz cabbage, please."
 
2021-11-24 6:58:14 PM  
I love how the reasoning boils down to "South Dakotans are too goddamned stupid to figure this really easy shiat out."
 
2021-11-24 6:59:27 PM  

thealgorerhythm: Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.

I predict the Democrats will do this in March 2022.

75% of Americans support it. It would make the Republicans look like the retrograde thugs that they are and possibly peel some Fark Independent goodwill.


Unfortunately, Big Alcohol, Big Pharma, and Big Legal are against it.
 
2021-11-24 7:00:12 PM  

BolloxReader: aleister_greynight: Gov. Kristi Noem instigated the legal fight to strike down the amendment passed by voters in November.

The party of small government and freedom, fighting a voter passed law change.

It is small federal government. Conservatives have always supported state governments strong enough to keep people in chains.


As long as Conservatives run said state governments.
 
2021-11-24 7:01:22 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: thealgorerhythm: Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.

I predict the Democrats will do this in March 2022.

75% of Americans support it. It would make the Republicans look like the retrograde thugs that they are and possibly peel some Fark Independent goodwill.

Unfortunately, Big Alcohol, Big Pharma, and Big Legal are against it.


Until they own a controlling interest, which they are very much working towards.
 
2021-11-24 7:04:07 PM  

Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.


why not sue the bodies that allowed such an unconstitutional amendment to be voted on?  that was a huge was of tax payer resources to vote on something that would be null and void at the start.

Seems to make sense that voters should be presented with valid items to vote on?  otherwise why not load the voting ballot with 1000s of items, 1000 of which are nonsense?
 
2021-11-24 7:06:53 PM  
My aunt gets "medicinal" pot in Flandreau. I believe all she had to do was call a number and ask for a medical marijuana card and they mailed it to her. It's the same reservation that was selling it a few years ago and then stopped.
 
2021-11-24 7:08:19 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: BolloxReader: aleister_greynight: Gov. Kristi Noem instigated the legal fight to strike down the amendment passed by voters in November.

The party of small government and freedom, fighting a voter passed law change.

It is small federal government. Conservatives have always supported state governments strong enough to keep people in chains.

As long as Conservatives run said state governments.


Yeah, they support big federal Republican governments too.
 
2021-11-24 7:09:02 PM  

majestic: I predict the Democrats will do this in March 2022.

75% of Americans support it. It would make the Republicans look like the retrograde thugs that they are and possibly peel some Fark Independent goodwill.


No way. I can't think of any democrat openly pushing for federal re-scheduling of marijuana. Everybody wants to "leave it up to the states" just in case they need to push for something later.


the republicans will legalize it and take an easy win away from the dems.

I am with you, I don't see Biden, Pelosi, or Schumer fighting to legalize anything.
 
2021-11-24 7:09:31 PM  

jake3988: Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.

It will get taken off the schedule A... someday.  And federal penalties will be (officially) removed... someday.

BUT... AGAIN... THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LEGALIZING IT DOES NOTHING FOR THE STATES.

States themselves would still need to legalize and set it up on their own.  It will not automatically make it legal in every state.

/Also, interesting, how republicans in charge CONSTANTLY fighting and undermining their own voters legally passed referendums never hurts them.


If the "labor shortage crisis" continues much longer, you are going to have some pretty large federally contracted employers pushing to get it off schedule 1 so that they don't have to deny employment to a weed user.
 
2021-11-24 7:10:33 PM  
No, they have ruled, as the GOP always does, that the people are subjects not masters.
 
2021-11-24 7:15:13 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Have Biden Nuke SD.

Problem solved.


It would wipe out $10 trillion in passive income farms from all the trust funds there.  Why do you hate the independently wealthy?
 
2021-11-24 7:29:10 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: BolloxReader: aleister_greynight: Gov. Kristi Noem instigated the legal fight to strike down the amendment passed by voters in November.

The party of small government and freedom, fighting a voter passed law change.

It is small federal government. Conservatives have always supported state governments strong enough to keep people in chains.

As long as Conservatives run said state governments.


Oh, they want it strong enough to do other things too. Like strong enough to push all social support like food stamps through churches, then require church membership to obtain such services. Strong enough to make sure only the right kinds of Christian churches are included. Strong enough to keep anyone not exactly like them out of their communities. Like, if you would be shunned by a local congregation, you can't do business in that town.

They want a state government able and willing to bring back state-sponsored Puritanism in all its glory.
 
2021-11-24 7:32:58 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: thealgorerhythm: Lsherm: The high court sided with those arguments in a 4-1 decision, ruling that the measure - Amendment A - would have violated the state's requirement that constitutional amendments deal with just one subject.

That's fine, that's how the law works. So just set up another referendum with just pot on the ballot. It's not difficult.

Otherwise, although this will never happen, the federal government needs to make a move to decriminalize pot. It's well past the time to do it.

I predict the Democrats will do this in March 2022.

75% of Americans support it. It would make the Republicans look like the retrograde thugs that they are and possibly peel some Fark Independent goodwill.

Unfortunately, Big Alcohol, Big Pharma, and Big Legal are against it.


And, in the case of SD, Wall Drug was probably against it too.
 
2021-11-24 7:34:23 PM  
I can have legal, recreational MJ delivered right to my door same day and I frequently do. Why do I bring this up? No reason.

Enjoy living in South Dakota, I guess.
 
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