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2021-11-24 4:05:03 PM  
I'm finally assembling this year's Fark Fiction Anthology. All the edits are in, text content is complete, the art is done, and now all that I have to do is wrangle Scrivener into generating a .pdf for the print version and a .mobi for the Kindle version. The only problem is that I only do this kind of thing once a year and I don't remember how any of this works.  Why does the table of contents generate with some files ignored? Why is everything one page number off? What do I have to do to get Amazon set up to - oh, wait, I actually wrote a lot of this in a how-to last year, knowing that I'd forget it all!

Now if I could only find where I wrote it all down.

Anyway, it's coming together and we're in the home stretch. There are some time delays still built into the process-once I get the Kindle wrangling done, I'll have Amazon print and ship me a proof copy so I can make sure I didn't screw up anything too obvious, but once that's complete, we'll be live and I'll submit a thread to the main page to tell everyone. We're almost there!

Writing questions of the week: All about tools!

What tools do you use for writing? A word processor, a typewriter, or a pen? How do you assemble your manuscript-in something dedicated like Scrivener, or another application? What are the strengths and weaknesses of your process?
 
2021-11-24 4:13:24 PM  
He was useless if he thought about how to do it.  His fingers remembered, but his mind could not.  He could not describe the steps.  To perform his duties it was absolutely necessary that he be completely shiatfaced and just trust his hands.
 
2021-11-24 5:15:52 PM  
I use vi, and write in HTML because I like the font controls.
 
2021-11-24 5:41:19 PM  
A laptop because I have horrible penmanship.  My writing has been compared to a doctor's prescription (and several have considered the doc's writing more legible).

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2021-11-24 5:44:07 PM  

west.la.lawyer: He was useless if he thought about how to do it.  His fingers remembered, but his mind could not.  He could not describe the steps.  To perform his duties it was absolutely necessary that he be completely shiatfaced and just trust his hands.


And then he exploded.
 
2021-11-24 5:44:08 PM  

toraque: I'm finally assembling this year's Fark Fiction Anthology. All the edits are in, text content is complete, the art is done, and now all that I have to do is wrangle Scrivener into generating a .pdf for the print version and a .mobi for the Kindle version. The only problem is that I only do this kind of thing once a year and I don't remember how any of this works.  Why does the table of contents generate with some files ignored? Why is everything one page number off? What do I have to do to get Amazon set up to - oh, wait, I actually wrote a lot of this in a how-to last year, knowing that I'd forget it all!

Now if I could only find where I wrote it all down.

Anyway, it's coming together and we're in the home stretch. There are some time delays still built into the process-once I get the Kindle wrangling done, I'll have Amazon print and ship me a proof copy so I can make sure I didn't screw up anything too obvious, but once that's complete, we'll be live and I'll submit a thread to the main page to tell everyone. We're almost there!

Writing questions of the week: All about tools!

What tools do you use for writing? A word processor, a typewriter, or a pen? How do you assemble your manuscript-in something dedicated like Scrivener, or another application? What are the strengths and weaknesses of your process?


What's the general timeline for the printing once submitted? Christmas, January, February? Not fussing, just trying to manage my expecations.
 
2021-11-24 5:45:01 PM  
Google Documents on a PC, with a second tab open for notes (and sometimes a third with world building stuff).
 
2021-11-24 5:46:14 PM  

palelizard: toraque: I'm finally assembling this year's Fark Fiction Anthology. All the edits are in, text content is complete, the art is done, and now all that I have to do is wrangle Scrivener into generating a .pdf for the print version and a .mobi for the Kindle version. The only problem is that I only do this kind of thing once a year and I don't remember how any of this works.  Why does the table of contents generate with some files ignored? Why is everything one page number off? What do I have to do to get Amazon set up to - oh, wait, I actually wrote a lot of this in a how-to last year, knowing that I'd forget it all!

Now if I could only find where I wrote it all down.

Anyway, it's coming together and we're in the home stretch. There are some time delays still built into the process-once I get the Kindle wrangling done, I'll have Amazon print and ship me a proof copy so I can make sure I didn't screw up anything too obvious, but once that's complete, we'll be live and I'll submit a thread to the main page to tell everyone. We're almost there!

Writing questions of the week: All about tools!

What tools do you use for writing? A word processor, a typewriter, or a pen? How do you assemble your manuscript-in something dedicated like Scrivener, or another application? What are the strengths and weaknesses of your process?

What's the general timeline for the printing once submitted? Christmas, January, February? Not fussing, just trying to manage my expecations.


One to two weeks, if all goes according to expectations and I don't run into any weird issues.
 
2021-11-24 5:46:41 PM  
"Knowledge is stronger then memory" -- Bram Stoker

"It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards." -- Lewis Carroll
 
2021-11-24 5:54:25 PM  
There are a couple of methods.

I have a Wordpad document called "Odds and Ends", where I put snippets of stuff that has come to my mind. I also have a handwritten journal that serves some of the same purpouse.

For a project, I usually have a Google Doc for the text and a spreadsheet for the general outline, character notes, etc.
 
2021-11-24 5:55:57 PM  
 I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity.   E.A.Poe
 
2021-11-24 5:58:03 PM  
"Ever since her young prince had ridden away to war; the sleep of Princes Elisabeth had been tormented by red dreams of horror and blood."

-- First line from the book Bram Stoker's Dracula based on the Francis Ford Coppola film Bram Stoker's Dracula by Fred Saberhagen and Jame V. Hart
 
2021-11-24 6:25:40 PM  

toraque: palelizard: toraque: I'm finally assembling this year's Fark Fiction Anthology. All the edits are in, text content is complete, the art is done, and now all that I have to do is wrangle Scrivener into generating a .pdf for the print version and a .mobi for the Kindle version. The only problem is that I only do this kind of thing once a year and I don't remember how any of this works.  Why does the table of contents generate with some files ignored? Why is everything one page number off? What do I have to do to get Amazon set up to - oh, wait, I actually wrote a lot of this in a how-to last year, knowing that I'd forget it all!

Now if I could only find where I wrote it all down.

Anyway, it's coming together and we're in the home stretch. There are some time delays still built into the process-once I get the Kindle wrangling done, I'll have Amazon print and ship me a proof copy so I can make sure I didn't screw up anything too obvious, but once that's complete, we'll be live and I'll submit a thread to the main page to tell everyone. We're almost there!

Writing questions of the week: All about tools!

What tools do you use for writing? A word processor, a typewriter, or a pen? How do you assemble your manuscript-in something dedicated like Scrivener, or another application? What are the strengths and weaknesses of your process?

What's the general timeline for the printing once submitted? Christmas, January, February? Not fussing, just trying to manage my expecations.

One to two weeks, if all goes according to expectations and I don't run into any weird issues.


Cool. Thanks, I'm looking forward to it.
 
2021-11-24 6:57:39 PM  
Over the years I've developed two writing styles, one of which occasionally makes me money.

I've noticed it's a different process, a different flow, between typing and writing. They seem to tap into different parts of the brain. Typing uses both hemispheres coordinating the fingertips through the corpus collosum, based on manual dexterity, in several locations throughout the brain. Handwriting can flow, if one learn an appropriate writing style, and draws from the mind a different way.

Writing fiction I rough draft parts into notebooks of different sizes, and onto 3x5 cards. Create a card for each character, location, key items, etc and each time you come up with an attribute, write it on the appropriate card. Add additional cards for major characters. I use sharpie for the name at the top, plus various color coded symbols at the top to denote different team alliances, etc. When preparing to write a scene, get out all the appropriate cards and refresh your memory of all the little defining characteristics. Also, you can pull a few at random to create a new scene.

When writing non-fiction, like freelance newspaper articles, I typically type a rough draft into a word processor which gets edited into a final electronic form. Typically from hand written notes, usually taken at an event or interview. I've written enough different articles at my college newspaper that I have sort of a template in my head for an article.

For example, I got assigned to a lot of political whistle stop visits, and those were so easy: Some windbag flapped his mouth in Yodel Hall last Saturday. He talked about this and that and said, "No new soundbites." Somebody in the audience asked WTF and he said LOLGFY. Here's a photo with a flag.
 
2021-11-24 6:59:16 PM  
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2021-11-24 7:02:37 PM  
Speaking of Dracula,
People ask me, "What's your favorite vampire?"
"The one on Sesame Street."
"He doesn't count!"
"Oh, you're so wrong!"
 
2021-11-24 7:04:21 PM  
Scrivener is the answer.
 
2021-11-24 7:05:39 PM  
I use a WP as I've always done. I will hand write some notes when things hit me or I'm doing research. But my mind runs too fast for my hands and so I'm usually typing or I forget what I wanted to write. Lol
 
2021-11-24 7:43:27 PM  

Creepy Lurker Guy: I use vi, and write in HTML because I like the font controls.


I use vi and HTML, and save revisions in git. I don't bother with fonts, I just want italic and bold.

You can edit - and view - basic HTML on anything electronic nowadays. I can write on the phone anywhere, do larger edits on the PC, and track what's going on, measure output, and pull up literally any old version all the way back to the first scribbles.

More detailed formatting can always come later, if needed. The actual words are the most important thing.
 
2021-11-24 7:51:43 PM  

King Something: west.la.lawyer: He was useless if he thought about how to do it.  His fingers remembered, but his mind could not.  He could not describe the steps.  To perform his duties it was absolutely necessary that he be completely shiatfaced and just trust his hands.

And then he exploded.


I was thinking something like snake breeder or veterinarian tape worm remover
 
2021-11-24 8:51:12 PM  
I was hacked into last year by someone who thought all of my stuff on my WIP was in One Drive, Word, and One Note.

The real stuff was somewhere else, which  was how I was able to take drafts of it to a workshop two months later and post my instructors feedback on social media and get the message out that if someone else comes out with a version of my shiat, I have them over a barrel.

Those are times when writing out in longhand and in notebooks comes really in handy.
It's a slower process, but safer.
 
2021-11-24 8:54:30 PM  
Having started writing pre-Intarwebs, I use pen and paper for rough drafts. It's slow, but when it's done I have confidence in the result. Then I type it up in RTF on an air-gapped PC; that's where any rewriting and hole-filling happen. From there a thumb drive takes the file to the work PC for formatting. I've just started learning Scribus for publishing, hope it's smoother than the hoopfest I had before.
 
2021-11-24 8:58:20 PM  
I put my spur-of-the-moment/general ideas in my iPhone's Notes app. I write my FFA short stories and the occasional article in Google Docs, which is free and cloud-based.

I'm vaguely aware that Docs tends to gum up after 12,000 words or so. I'd have to look into alternatives if I ever tried to write something longer.
 
2021-11-25 1:31:51 AM  
See these things?  Don't scrub them.  Put them on a rack in your oven and run it through a cleaning cycle.  You are welcome.  But only if they're cast iron (never saw one that wasn't).

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2021-11-25 10:44:34 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: See these things?  Don't scrub them.  Put them on a rack in your oven and run it through a cleaning cycle.  You are welcome.  But only if they're cast iron (never saw one that wasn't).

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Are you sure you're in the right thread?
 
2021-11-25 11:44:56 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: See these things?  Don't scrub them.  Put them on a rack in your oven and run it through a cleaning cycle.  You are welcome.  But only if they're cast iron (never saw one that wasn't).

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Now there's a tip I never expected in the writer's thread.

I use Google Docs until the document size gets unwieldy, which is usually pretty quick.   I tend to write chapters in separate documents.  When I have something that needs to be "finished" (ha!) I do it in Word.

I also carry a moleskin notebook with me and jot down ideas if they come to me.  This works well for writing music as well as stories.  I have a couple of notebooks filled with one or two lines of unfinished songwriting, as well as dozens of paragraphs of scenes from no story, but are ready the next time I am not so lazy.
 
2021-11-25 3:14:14 PM  

Creepy Lurker Guy: backhand.slap.of.reason: See these things?  Don't scrub them.  Put them on a rack in your oven and run it through a cleaning cycle.  You are welcome.  But only if they're cast iron (never saw one that wasn't).

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Are you sure you're in the right thread?


They're making a point that this thread is useless to a lot of Farkers, but they provided trivia that could be used anyway.
 
2021-11-25 4:22:55 PM  
I recently started using Medium for my writing.
 
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