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(JSTOR)   Dune anticipated many of the ecological and social crises we now face, along with the dangers of demagogues ready to take advantage of them   (daily.jstor.org) divider line
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2021-11-18 4:07:11 PM  
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\specifically, ecology
 
2021-11-18 5:00:22 PM  
And who are those demagogues taking advantage of enviramental crises
 
2021-11-18 5:00:58 PM  
Yeah but Herbert did not foresee the dork that made Twin Peaks getting the rights to make a movie out of his book
 
2021-11-18 5:02:08 PM  
I always thought of the idea that intelligent computers were outlawed due to a past uprising and subjugation of humanity to be interesting.

/Dune is a post Terminator judgment day world
 
2021-11-18 5:03:50 PM  

AlgaeRancher: I always thought of the idea that intelligent computers were outlawed due to a past uprising and subjugation of humanity to be interesting.

/Dune is a post Terminator judgment day world


Also pre-9/11 use of jihad.
 
2021-11-18 5:13:21 PM  
Frank Herbert was a prophet.

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2021-11-18 5:16:28 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: David Lynch was a prophet.

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FTFY
 
2021-11-18 5:23:07 PM  

LewDux: Benevolent Misanthrope: David Lynch was a prophet.

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FTFY


You are correct.  Mea culpa.
 
2021-11-18 5:35:30 PM  
Yeah but it was too long and boring to get anything out of it.
 
2021-11-18 6:08:17 PM  

AlgaeRancher: I always thought of the idea that intelligent computers were outlawed due to a past uprising and subjugation of humanity to be interesting.

/Dune is a post Terminator judgment day world


Pretty sure the original implication was that it was a Luddite type movement.  The computers were taking all the jobs, the people rose up and destroyed them, and everyone who supported them.
 
2021-11-18 6:11:45 PM  

AlgaeRancher: I always thought of the idea that intelligent computers were outlawed due to a past uprising and subjugation of humanity to be interesting.

/Dune is a post Terminator judgment day world


I found that fascinating as well.

We get to see what they feared soon enough. AI is a big deal with the US military.
 
2021-11-18 6:21:05 PM  

Nadie_AZ: AlgaeRancher: I always thought of the idea that intelligent computers were outlawed due to a past uprising and subjugation of humanity to be interesting.

/Dune is a post Terminator judgment day world

I found that fascinating as well.

We get to see what they feared soon enough. AI is a big deal with the US military.


"AI will be the first intelligence in the marine corps/air force/etc."
-the other four branches
 
2021-11-18 6:36:40 PM  
*a movie title is mentioned*

me: [starts thinking about what year it was released]
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2021-11-18 7:56:42 PM  
Dear Subby:
Yep
So did Asimov at the time.
 
2021-11-18 8:19:27 PM  

moothemagiccow: Yeah but Herbert did not foresee the dork that made Twin Peaks getting the rights to make a movie out of his book


He visited the set multiple times and had no big problems with the film. He wrote an essay about it. I am encatted, or I'd give you the name.
 
2021-11-18 8:21:44 PM  

moothemagiccow: Yeah but Herbert did not foresee the dork that made Twin Peaks getting the rights to make a movie out of his book


Herbert was cool with Lynch's adaptation
 
2021-11-18 8:27:57 PM  

Nadie_AZ: AlgaeRancher: I always thought of the idea that intelligent computers were outlawed due to a past uprising and subjugation of humanity to be interesting.

/Dune is a post Terminator judgment day world

I found that fascinating as well.

We get to see what they feared soon enough. AI is a big deal with the US military.


It is going to be a lovely time when the drones just decide on their own who gets the missile surprise.   Why even bother with people?
 
2021-11-18 8:38:12 PM  

Reverend Monkeypants: Dear Subby:
Yep
So did Asimov at the time.


He also thought egghead scientists would save us, so...
 
2021-11-18 10:51:37 PM  

wiredroach: Reverend Monkeypants: Dear Subby:
Yep
So did Asimov at the time.

He also thought egghead scientists would save us, so...


Yes and Hugh Hefner
 
2021-11-18 10:56:49 PM  
The thing the ecologically illiterate don't realize about an ecosystem is that it's a system. A system! A system maintains a certain fluid stability that can be destroyed by a misstep in just one niche. A system has order, flowing from point to point. If something dams that flow, order collapses. The untrained might miss that collapse until it was too late. That's why the highest function of ecology is the understanding of consequences.
 
2021-11-19 6:07:20 AM  

Mega Steve: moothemagiccow: Yeah but Herbert did not foresee the dork that made Twin Peaks getting the rights to make a movie out of his book

Herbert was cool with Lynch's adaptation


Lynch wasn't happy with Lynch's adaptation
 
2021-11-19 6:18:40 AM  

LrdPhoenix: AlgaeRancher: I always thought of the idea that intelligent computers were outlawed due to a past uprising and subjugation of humanity to be interesting.

/Dune is a post Terminator judgment day world

Pretty sure the original implication was that it was a Luddite type movement.  The computers were taking all the jobs, the people rose up and destroyed them, and everyone who supported them.


Original Dune Saga: The Machine Crusade - YouTube
DUNE: A Brief History of The Butlerian Jihad (Encyclopedia) - YouTube
Dune Lore: What Was The Butlerian Jihad (Dune 2021) - YouTube
 
2021-11-19 6:59:37 AM  
 
2021-11-19 12:13:25 PM  
It's about ethics in Gom Jabberism
 
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