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2021-11-17 9:53:39 PM  
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2021-11-17 11:04:20 PM  
That was f*cking heartbreaking to read.
I didn't know he suffered an abusive childhood. And hats off to Jonathan for his kindness and love.
Hey Wil! Your blog doesn't suck. Don't ever shut up.
 
2021-11-17 11:30:51 PM  

Redh8t: That was f*cking heartbreaking to read.
I didn't know he suffered an abusive childhood. And hats off to Jonathan for his kindness and love.
Hey Wil! Your blog doesn't suck. Don't ever shut up.


Yeah. Apparently pretty shiatty.

And I swear I've read that he never wanted to be in front of the camera either. But, pressure from family.

And then social media (and fark, though Wil was before my time) just piling on with a constant stream of "Shut up Wesley"
 
2021-11-18 12:05:29 AM  

Gubbo: And then social media (and fark, though Wil was before my time) just piling on with a constant stream of "Shut up Wesley"


Yes, now I understand why the 'Shut up Wesley' stuff got to him.
Without a doubt, there's a lotta "Tuesdays" on fark..

I read something a couple days ago about Drew giving Wil some Fark space for an AMA after Wheatons website went down due to heavy traffic. And that was the birth of the Wheaton tag. (And wOOtstout ;)

Kudos to Drew for his kindness.
 
2021-11-18 1:50:26 AM  
Dammit, don't make me like Frakes, or Wil...

Dammit, you've gone and done it.

Fark
 
2021-11-18 2:11:41 AM  

MrBallou: or Wil


If this didn't make you like him...:
Actor Wil Wheaton sings The Dead Kennedy's hit POLICE TRUCK w/ Punk Rock Karaoke.
Youtube 0AK-sHrCyUY
 
2021-11-18 2:19:03 AM  
Some of us are super lucky and thrive in the families we're born into. Some of us make our own new families. Both are good and right. Some of us form bonds here on Fark. That is wrong. It's better to embrace solitude and shame.
 
2021-11-18 2:35:18 AM  

kudayta: MrBallou: or Wil

If this didn't make you like him...:
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/0AK-sHrCyUY]


Anybody can yell into a mic. That the venerated Wil did only confirms his vast awesomeness.
 
2021-11-18 4:16:12 AM  
Jonathan Frakes Asks You Things
Youtube 9S1EzkRpelY
 
2021-11-18 6:23:30 AM  
I always got the sense that TNG Riker (the character) was always trying just a tiny bit too hard to be "the cool one". Frakes, on the other hand, seems to be a little bit awesome.

/  Riker from Picard was written to have a lot more Frakes going for him, and so works for me where TNG Riker didn't quite.
 
2021-11-18 7:15:31 AM  
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/he did a great Cameo for my wife's birthday
//including the "Riker Smile"
///standing with one foot on chair in tribute
 
2021-11-18 7:40:44 AM  
I'll never say shut up in reference to his character again. I can't imagine how he took that, now knowing what he went through at home. I'm surprised I hadn't read it before.

Sorry, Wil. Be a good dad.
 
2021-11-18 8:10:49 AM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: I'll never say shut up in reference to his character again. I can't imagine how he took that, now knowing what he went through at home. I'm surprised I hadn't read it before.

Sorry, Wil. Be a good dad.


Is "shut up, Meg" still on the table?
 
2021-11-18 8:34:51 AM  

Great_Milenko: Wine Sipping Elitist: I'll never say shut up in reference to his character again. I can't imagine how he took that, now knowing what he went through at home. I'm surprised I hadn't read it before.

Sorry, Wil. Be a good dad.

Is "shut up, Meg" still on the table?


No. Meg gets too much shiat too.

/haven't watched that show in five years
//haven't missed the way they treat Meg
 
2021-11-18 8:37:35 AM  

KRSESQ: Great_Milenko: Wine Sipping Elitist: I'll never say shut up in reference to his character again. I can't imagine how he took that, now knowing what he went through at home. I'm surprised I hadn't read it before.

Sorry, Wil. Be a good dad.

Is "shut up, Meg" still on the table?

No. Meg gets too much shiat too.

/haven't watched that show in five years
//haven't missed the way they treat Meg


I really want to know which girl from his past Seth made Meg an avatar of.
 
2021-11-18 8:38:26 AM  

Flappyhead: KRSESQ: Great_Milenko: Wine Sipping Elitist: I'll never say shut up in reference to his character again. I can't imagine how he took that, now knowing what he went through at home. I'm surprised I hadn't read it before.

Sorry, Wil. Be a good dad.

Is "shut up, Meg" still on the table?

No. Meg gets too much shiat too.

/haven't watched that show in five years
//haven't missed the way they treat Meg

I really want to know which girl from his past Seth made Meg an avatar of.


Why not both all of them....maybe both
 
2021-11-18 8:46:30 AM  
Capt. Riker promotes Boimler to The Titan | Star Trek Lower Decks 1x10
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2021-11-18 8:47:54 AM  
Frakes always seemed pretty easy going and friendly.  He did a live commentary for First Contact earlier this year online and just seemed like someone that would be pretty cool to hang around with.  I think it's pretty easy to imagine that he's probably a good bit responsible for teaching Patrick Stewart to loosen up and enjoy things more on set as well in the early days of TNG.
 
2021-11-18 8:50:01 AM  
I think I'd enjoy hanging out with Wil. I don't think we'd have any trouble finding something to talk about.
 
2021-11-18 9:04:45 AM  

Great_Milenko: Wine Sipping Elitist: I'll never say shut up in reference to his character again. I can't imagine how he took that, now knowing what he went through at home. I'm surprised I hadn't read it before.

Sorry, Wil. Be a good dad.

Is "shut up, Meg" still on the table?


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2021-11-18 9:09:48 AM  

Stands With A Tiny Fist: I always got the sense that TNG Riker (the character) was always trying just a tiny bit too hard to be "the cool one". Frakes, on the other hand, seems to be a little bit awesome.

/  Riker from Picard was written to have a lot more Frakes going for him, and so works for me where TNG Riker didn't quite.


Originally Riker was supposed to be the lead and I definitely think he was trying to be That Guy in the earliest seasons but later on he let Riker mellow out and be goofy when he didn't have to be "on" and doing the grimace and the walk and the voice that says I AM BEING SERIOUS NOW, which was always weird because he's an infinitely better actor when he's just being himself. There were some interviews where he mentioned that he'd forgotten how to "be" Riker when it came time to get back in front of the camera for Picard and it was like, yeah that's a good thing dude. His bits on Lower Decks are the same, he just sounds like he's having a farking blast
 
2021-11-18 9:51:52 AM  

Great_Milenko: Wine Sipping Elitist: I'll never say shut up in reference to his character again. I can't imagine how he took that, now knowing what he went through at home. I'm surprised I hadn't read it before.

Sorry, Wil. Be a good dad.

Is "shut up, Meg" still on the table?



Mix it up and say:  Zatknis', Meg

Mila Kunis Constantly Gets Told "Shut Up Meg" | The Graham Norton Show CLASSIC CLIP
Youtube iq_6dwYr6YE
 
2021-11-18 10:09:29 AM  

Flappyhead: I really want to know which girl from his past Seth made Meg an avatar of.


It's the actual Meg Griffin. She is a DJ, I hear her on Sirius XM but she's been around for a long time.

I think I read she was a family friend and they had a falling out and that is why he named the character after her but I may be misremembering
 
2021-11-18 10:32:53 AM  

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Jonathan Frakes Asks You Things (drunk)
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I'll raise you that slowed down.
 
2021-11-18 10:36:02 AM  
Oof, right in the feels!
 
2021-11-18 10:45:02 AM  

Notabunny: Some of us are super lucky and thrive in the families we're born into. Some of us make our own new families. Both are good and right. Some of us form bonds here on Fark. That is wrong. It's better to embrace solitude and shame.


And some men, like me, who want to see and post random COBOL references/code on Fark.

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2021-11-18 10:48:15 AM  

MrBallou: Anybody can yell into a mic. That the venerated Wil did only confirms his vast awesomeness.


Venerated?  Seems like a good dude, but not venerated.
 
2021-11-18 11:04:51 AM  
I have friends that at times were heavily involved in cons and I've never heard a bad word about Frakes.  I have heard bad words about Wil, but given his past and how open he's been about his mental health struggles, I think it's forgivable if he had a bad day while still meeting his obligations.
 
2021-11-18 11:06:21 AM  
Riker was cool as a cucumber and it's weird seeing episodes without a beard
 
2021-11-18 11:13:21 AM  

NeoCortex42: Frakes always seemed pretty easy going and friendly.  He did a live commentary for First Contact earlier this year online and just seemed like someone that would be pretty cool to hang around with.  I think it's pretty easy to imagine that he's probably a good bit responsible for teaching Patrick Stewart to loosen up and enjoy things more on set as well in the early days of TNG.


Yeah, for sure.

As much as I'd love to hang with Patrick Stewart, I'd equally (if not more so) love to grab a beer with Frakes.

I was lucky enough to meet Wil once (he is /was friends with an old buddy of mine from high school, we lost touch sadly). It was in passing, but he was very kind and didn't bat an eye when I gushed about TNG for a couple of minutes. Wish we got to chat more, especially now knowing about his dad. We'd have a ton to talk about.
 
2021-11-18 11:15:05 AM  

Marcos P: Riker was cool as a cucumber and it's weird seeing episodes without a beard


Yes, but is it as weird as seeing Data with a beard?

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If that disturbs you,

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2021-11-18 11:23:34 AM  

Marcos P: Riker was cool as a cucumber and it's weird seeing episodes without a beard


I wonder if he would have looked better with a collar and no beard rather than the first and second seasons' pajama outfits.
 
2021-11-18 11:38:42 AM  

urethra_franklin: NeoCortex42: Frakes always seemed pretty easy going and friendly.  He did a live commentary for First Contact earlier this year online and just seemed like someone that would be pretty cool to hang around with.  I think it's pretty easy to imagine that he's probably a good bit responsible for teaching Patrick Stewart to loosen up and enjoy things more on set as well in the early days of TNG.

Yeah, for sure.

As much as I'd love to hang with Patrick Stewart, I'd equally (if not more so) love to grab a beer with Frakes.

I was lucky enough to meet Wil once (he is /was friends with an old buddy of mine from high school, we lost touch sadly). It was in passing, but he was very kind and didn't bat an eye when I gushed about TNG for a couple of minutes. Wish we got to chat more, especially now knowing about his dad. We'd have a ton to talk about.


I wish Wil would finish up Memories of the Future Volume 2. The first one was a pretty interesting read.
 
2021-11-18 11:41:32 AM  
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2021-11-18 11:44:24 AM  

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I'll raise you that slowed down.


jonathan frakes telling you you're wrong for 47 seconds
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2021-11-18 12:02:50 PM  
My dad isn't as bad as Wil's. But I get it.

For my dad the love is there, he's a rock you can lean on in a crisis, and he has wisdom to give on certain things. But it's like learning things from Red Forman; nothing but disapproval, annoyance, impatience, and disappointment that you aren't smart enough to be immediately expert in the things you've never learned.

My dad has moments of deep inconsideration for how he talks to people, a near utter lack of awareness about it in the moment, and his family is at ground zero. No one who wasn't family has willingly associated with him outside of work in something like 30 years.

Sometimes, after mom gets on his case about something particularly egregious, he'll try kindness after the fact. It's awkward. Apologies, even if he means them and says all the right words, always sound more like "I'm sorry you let your feelings get hurt."

He treats my little brother marginally better than me, but my brother didn't almost kill our mother as he came into this world.

I don't blame him for any of this. From what I can tell Dad's family life was pretty rotten growing up. His parents passed when I was too young to have a memorable read on his relationship with them, and he ceased all contact with his brother after his dad passed. There is fairly concrete evidence my uncle and his wife are scummy people. So I doubt dad ever got a direct example of what a loving family looked like.

I know when I was growing up he was adamant about having dinner at the table as a family. I get the feeling he had it in his head that was something "real" families did that his didn't. So we had to.

While I don't blame him he has farked me up in ways I've only started to come to terms with in the last few years. Life hasn't gone how I wanted it to, and I think the blows I used to simply shrug off when thing were going better for me now get noticed. And I'm noticing the marks they leave are adding to scars I wasn't consciously aware of.

Mom's started to pick up on it too, she and I have talked about it some, so she's aware I've woken up to it. The last time dad started in on me I know she saw me get the thousand yard stare as I endured it. Because the next time I saw dad he was doing his non-apology thing.

Problem is I can't address dad head on when he's in tearing me down mode. To do so will only make it worse. At least with me he has to win or it will be a worse fight. Literally the one time I confronted him in the moment it escalated to blows and I busted his lip. I've got to let him run out of steam and then talk to him afterwards to even have a chance. That's how mom handles him -- "yes dear"s him until he's done and then let's him have it later if she feels the need.

I'm glad Wil found someone in his life that could show him how his dad treated him wasn't how a man should act.
 
2021-11-18 12:52:28 PM  
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2021-11-18 2:23:44 PM  

Myk-House of El: I have friends that at times were heavily involved in cons and I've never heard a bad word about Frakes.  I have heard bad words about Wil, but given his past and how open he's been about his mental health struggles, I think it's forgivable if he had a bad day while still meeting his obligations.


I worked the con circuit for several years, between about 2009-2015 and met and worked with a ton of celebrities. I think for the most part the ones I met were nice people, but everyone has off days. People really like to complain if a celebrity doesn't live up to their every preconceived expectation in their own head canon and they should really cut them a little slack. Imagine your having just an awful day and then you have to sit down and meet with 500 strangers one by one. It's a lot. That being said their are some shiatty ones that I question why they even bother to show up for cons, but Wil defiantly isn't one of them.
 
2021-11-18 2:31:18 PM  

vilesithknight: Imagine your having just an awful day and then you have to sit down and meet with 500 strangers one by one. It's a lot.


I get that, but each of those 500 interactions is less than a minute and probably (at least) 10 bucks in your pocket.  5000 bucks for a day's work would be amazing to most people and most people have to deal with crap on a day to day basis with nowhere near that reward.

Tom Baker was my first doctor.  I met him at a con when I was probably 12-13 and he was a complete asshole to fans and the staff.  That was very eye opening.

//For comparison Doc 5 and JNT were super cool.
 
2021-11-18 2:37:49 PM  

vilesithknight: Myk-House of El: I have friends that at times were heavily involved in cons and I've never heard a bad word about Frakes.  I have heard bad words about Wil, but given his past and how open he's been about his mental health struggles, I think it's forgivable if he had a bad day while still meeting his obligations.

I worked the con circuit for several years, between about 2009-2015 and met and worked with a ton of celebrities. I think for the most part the ones I met were nice people, but everyone has off days. People really like to complain if a celebrity doesn't live up to their every preconceived expectation in their own head canon and they should really cut them a little slack. Imagine your having just an awful day and then you have to sit down and meet with 500 strangers one by one. It's a lot. That being said their are some shiatty ones that I question why they even bother to show up for cons, but Wil defiantly isn't one of them.


Not going to name any names, but one friend was the point person for a celebrity guest at a con and apparently their long term romantic partner had decided to end things like hours before they had to fly to this con.  They were miserable the whole weekend, drinking quite a bit.  They weren't lashing out, being mean to staff or similar, just completely heartbroken and still trying to make their fans happy and mostly failing.
 
2021-11-18 3:31:07 PM  

vilesithknight: I worked the con circuit for several years, between about 2009-2015 and met and worked with a ton of celebrities. I think for the most part the ones I met were nice people, but everyone has off days. People really like to complain if a celebrity doesn't live up to their every preconceived expectation in their own head canon and they should really cut them a little slack. Imagine your having just an awful day and then you have to sit down and meet with 500 strangers one by one. It's a lot. That being said their are some shiatty ones that I question why they even bother to show up for cons, but Wil defiantly isn't one of them.


I've told this story a bunch on Fark

My buddy went to a Con to meet Brent Spiner.
He asked him to sign "To Dave, the human I aspire to be" (or something like that) and he refused.
He gave him the whole "You see, I'm an actor.   Data was a character I played" yada yada yada.

Dave explained he understood but he always has the person sign some sort of personalized thing like that.

Apparently Spiner was a real dick about and refused.  Dave got his money back from the handler.

Frakes was at the next table and I guess heard the kerfuffle and asked what was going on.
Dave explained and Frakes laughed saying "oh that's great!  I would have signed it!" But Spiner wasn't having it.

I always tell Dave he should have had Frakes sign Spiners photo!
 
2021-11-18 3:35:24 PM  
Boy that rang a lot of bells.
 
2021-11-18 3:46:16 PM  

Myk-House of El: vilesithknight: Myk-House of El: I have friends that at times were heavily involved in cons and I've never heard a bad word about Frakes.  I have heard bad words about Wil, but given his past and how open he's been about his mental health struggles, I think it's forgivable if he had a bad day while still meeting his obligations.

I worked the con circuit for several years, between about 2009-2015 and met and worked with a ton of celebrities. I think for the most part the ones I met were nice people, but everyone has off days. People really like to complain if a celebrity doesn't live up to their every preconceived expectation in their own head canon and they should really cut them a little slack. Imagine your having just an awful day and then you have to sit down and meet with 500 strangers one by one. It's a lot. That being said their are some shiatty ones that I question why they even bother to show up for cons, but Wil defiantly isn't one of them.

Not going to name any names, but one friend was the point person for a celebrity guest at a con and apparently their long term romantic partner had decided to end things like hours before they had to fly to this con.  They were miserable the whole weekend, drinking quite a bit.  They weren't lashing out, being mean to staff or similar, just completely heartbroken and still trying to make their fans happy and mostly failing.


Oof, that would be super rough. Good on him for trying to tough it out though.
 
2021-11-18 3:48:48 PM  

buntz: vilesithknight: I worked the con circuit for several years, between about 2009-2015 and met and worked with a ton of celebrities. I think for the most part the ones I met were nice people, but everyone has off days. People really like to complain if a celebrity doesn't live up to their every preconceived expectation in their own head canon and they should really cut them a little slack. Imagine your having just an awful day and then you have to sit down and meet with 500 strangers one by one. It's a lot. That being said their are some shiatty ones that I question why they even bother to show up for cons, but Wil defiantly isn't one of them.

I've told this story a bunch on Fark

My buddy went to a Con to meet Brent Spiner.
He asked him to sign "To Dave, the human I aspire to be" (or something like that) and he refused.
He gave him the whole "You see, I'm an actor.   Data was a character I played" yada yada yada.

Dave explained he understood but he always has the person sign some sort of personalized thing like that.

Apparently Spiner was a real dick about and refused.  Dave got his money back from the handler.

Frakes was at the next table and I guess heard the kerfuffle and asked what was going on.
Dave explained and Frakes laughed saying "oh that's great!  I would have signed it!" But Spiner wasn't having it.

I always tell Dave he should have had Frakes sign Spiners photo!


Lol, thats great. Yeah he should've had Riker sign it. I've seen people refuse to sign stuff as their character and I've often wondered why it's so bothersome to them. Like Verne Troyer put up a sign that said "I will not sign anything as Mini-Me". But then you have guys like Lou Ferrigno who will happily sign "Hulk Smash!" all day long and do it with a smile.
 
2021-11-18 4:08:58 PM  
I'm sure Frakes is cool, especially to Wil, but it's a harder argument that Riker was cool.
 
2021-11-18 4:22:36 PM  
vilesithknight:
Lol, thats great. Yeah he should've had Riker sign it. I've seen people refuse to sign stuff as their character and I've often wondered why it's so bothersome to them. Like Verne Troyer put up a sign that said "I will not sign anything as Mini-Me". But then you have guys like Lou Ferrigno who will happily sign "Hulk Smash!" all day long and do it with a smile.

I'm reminded of how Leonard Nimoy wrote an autobiography in the 70s called "I am not Spock" where he spent a while talking about how he created the character and how it wasn't like how he really is and so on. Got a lot of negative press from people who assumed the title was him being a primadonna about it, but he was writing from the perspective of someone who assumed they'd go on to do lots of other characters just as famous.

He wrote a follow up in the 90s called "I am Spock" where he talked about that specific criticism, and also how he was a lot more at peace with the character now.
 
2021-11-18 4:34:40 PM  

Kris_Romm: I'm sure Frakes is cool, especially to Wil, but it's a harder argument that Riker was cool.


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2021-11-18 4:37:22 PM  

Kris_Romm: I'm sure Frakes is cool, especially to Wil, but it's a harder argument that Riker was cool.


Never cared for Will Riker as a character. I get he was suppose to be a sort of opposite of the more cultured and restrained Jean Luc Picard. But his constant arrogant 'holier than thou' persona was off-putting..
 
2021-11-18 5:26:37 PM  

NeoCortex42: urethra_franklin: NeoCortex42: Frakes always seemed pretty easy going and friendly.  He did a live commentary for First Contact earlier this year online and just seemed like someone that would be pretty cool to hang around with.  I think it's pretty easy to imagine that he's probably a good bit responsible for teaching Patrick Stewart to loosen up and enjoy things more on set as well in the early days of TNG.

Yeah, for sure.

As much as I'd love to hang with Patrick Stewart, I'd equally (if not more so) love to grab a beer with Frakes.

I was lucky enough to meet Wil once (he is /was friends with an old buddy of mine from high school, we lost touch sadly). It was in passing, but he was very kind and didn't bat an eye when I gushed about TNG for a couple of minutes. Wish we got to chat more, especially now knowing about his dad. We'd have a ton to talk about.

I wish Wil would finish up Memories of the Future Volume 2. The first one was a pretty interesting read.


Ditto.
 
2021-11-18 5:58:49 PM  
Lower Decks Riker was already covered, but I'ma Weeners appearance of the Titan anyway because....because.....screw you, that's why.

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