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2021-11-15 3:01:07 PM  
Curious, the idiot who submits the weekly headline ripping on the top five films' box office totals--the most recent of which is a mere 15 links below this--claimed that No Time to Die was "clinging to life."

Why do those headlines keep getting greenlit? To stir up controversy and generate clicks? It's a tired format that rips on movies for the sake of being negative, and it's not even remotely clever.
 
2021-11-15 3:04:42 PM  
Thought it was an excellent, fantastically shot conclusion to what has become my favourite take on Bond to date.
But I dunno about that ending... They've never needed to do that and I'm not convinced it was necessary now when it wasn't ever before.
Still a ton of fun.
 
2021-11-15 3:07:38 PM  

Heamer: Curious, the idiot who submits the weekly headline ripping on the top five films' box office totals--the most recent of which is a mere 15 links below this--claimed that No Time to Die was "clinging to life."

Why do those headlines keep getting greenlit? To stir up controversy and generate clicks? It's a tired format that rips on movies for the sake of being negative, and it's not even remotely clever.


I just took it as "still hanging in there after five farking weeks," which is almost unheard of.

/Saw it during Week 3 at the earliest showing we could find, theater was empty enough for everyone to sit at least six feet away.
 
2021-11-15 3:18:12 PM  

MillionDollarMo: Thought it was an excellent, fantastically shot conclusion to what has become my favourite take on Bond to date.
But I dunno about that ending... They've never needed to do that and I'm not convinced it was necessary now when it wasn't ever before.
Still a ton of fun.


The ending just did not work for me. Cant say much without spoiling it, with a different premise and setup it would have worked. This time round it seemed as if it was either non imaginative writing or ego of the writer/director to say "Look what I did". Daniel Craig just seemed tired, rather disinterested throughout the movie. It would have been more fitting had this lived up to Casino Royale, then they could have done almost anything at the end.
 
2021-11-15 3:22:54 PM  
so of the Craig Bond Films...we have a solid entry in Casino Royale... an okay follow up with Quantum of Solace... pure and utter trash that was Skyfall...and Spectre...Chritopher Waltz was just farking awful as Blofeld...
No Time to Die was a much welcome return to a decent Bond film...even if it did have some holes in in.
the sequence in Havana was worth the price of the rental.
 
2021-11-15 3:23:35 PM  

MillionDollarMo: Thought it was an excellent, fantastically shot conclusion to what has become my favourite take on Bond to date.
But I dunno about that ending... They've never needed to do that and I'm not convinced it was necessary now when it wasn't ever before.
Still a ton of fun.


I won't watch it because I heard what happens.

Nope.
 
2021-11-15 3:29:27 PM  
Yes, good movie, until the end.  No need to do that.  I felt that the writer or director was sayin look at me and what I can do.
 
2021-11-15 3:30:54 PM  

MillionDollarMo: Thought it was an excellent, fantastically shot conclusion to what has become my favourite take on Bond to date.
But I dunno about that ending... They've never needed to do that and I'm not convinced it was necessary now when it wasn't ever before.
Still a ton of fun.


And while we're at it...
Spectre was about tied as best with Casino Royale for me.
Then Skyfall, then Quantum.
Dunno where I place the latest one yet.
But I do know I liked them all.

But then I also think it was dope when Kirk asked "What does god need with a starship?"
 
2021-11-15 3:33:20 PM  
I'd of been more okay with the ending if they had the balls to confirm once and for all the Codename theory. But without that it's definitely just trying to be controversial for the sake of controversy.

Man, what is up with modern filmmakers insisting on shiatting all over established properties. It seems like every upstart director these days who gets his hands on a decades old franchise just can't help but disregard everything that made it endure for so long and tear it apart.
 
2021-11-15 3:37:00 PM  
It did better than I expected at our small-town theater.
 
2021-11-15 3:39:48 PM  
Since everyone else is ranking them:

1. Skyfall
2. Casino Royale
3. No Time to Die
4. Spectre
5. Quantum of Solace
 
2021-11-15 3:43:48 PM  

Stratohead: so of the Craig Bond Films...we have a solid entry in Casino Royale... an okay follow up with Quantum of Solace... pure and utter trash that was Skyfall...and Spectre...Chritopher Waltz was just farking awful as Blofeld...
No Time to Die was a much welcome return to a decent Bond film...even if it did have some holes in in.
the sequence in Havana was worth the price of the rental.


Really? I thought QoS was utter trash that rivaled the final Brosnan-Bond movies.

Casino Royale
Spectre
No Time to Die
Skyfall
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Quantum of Solace
 
2021-11-15 3:49:16 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Stratohead: so of the Craig Bond Films...we have a solid entry in Casino Royale... an okay follow up with Quantum of Solace... pure and utter trash that was Skyfall...and Spectre...Chritopher Waltz was just farking awful as Blofeld...
No Time to Die was a much welcome return to a decent Bond film...even if it did have some holes in in.
the sequence in Havana was worth the price of the rental.

Really? I thought QoS was utter trash that rivaled the final Brosnan-Bond movies.

Casino Royale
Spectre
No Time to Die
Skyfall
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Quantum of Solace


I thought that too because I had watched the first 2 scenes which were nothing but horrendous shaky-cam non-sense and stopped.  I had heard from others that they didn't like it so I just blindly assumed the rest of the movie was shaky-cam non-sense.

But a few years later I watched the whole movie, and not only is that the only shaky-cam in the movie... honestly, it's really quite good.
 
2021-11-15 3:51:32 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Stratohead: so of the Craig Bond Films...we have a solid entry in Casino Royale... an okay follow up with Quantum of Solace... pure and utter trash that was Skyfall...and Spectre...Chritopher Waltz was just farking awful as Blofeld...
No Time to Die was a much welcome return to a decent Bond film...even if it did have some holes in in.
the sequence in Havana was worth the price of the rental.

Really? I thought QoS was utter trash that rivaled the final Brosnan-Bond movies.

Casino Royale
Spectre
No Time to Die
Skyfall
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Quantum of Solace


QoS happened during the writer's strike, so...

Daniel Craig: "On 'Quantum,' we were f******," he said plainly. "We had the bare bones of a script and then there was a writers' strike and there was nothing we could do. We couldn't employ a writer to finish it. I say to myself, 'Never again,' but who knows? There was me trying to rewrite scenes - and a writer I am not.'"

The rules were that you couldn't employ anyone as a writer, but the actor and director could work on scenes together," he explained. "We were stuffed. We got away with it, but only just."
 
2021-11-15 3:56:02 PM  

Fireproof: Since everyone else is ranking them:

1. Skyfall
2. Casino Royale
3. No Time to Die
4. Spectre
5. Quantum of Solace


I've gotten to the point of just disregarding Quantum of Solace. It had a disadvantage from the start because it was shot during the writers strike. Because the director had never written English language scripts, Daniel Craig was stuck doing a lot of the dialogue rewrites himself.
In a perfect world, they would have delayed shooting until after the strike was over.
 
2021-11-15 3:56:16 PM  
Every boomer in my neighborhood went to see it. For many of them, it's the first time out to a cinema since the start of the pandemic.

I'm figuring Bond checked a lot of boxes when they were decided if they wanted to go out. Daniel Craig probably takes his shirt off (for the ladies) and acts like a debonair pick-up artist with cool gadgets (for the dudes).

You know what you're getting: Pure escapism.
I doubt anyone would want to go see Schindler's List right now if it was playing in theatres.

/Did not see the movie
//Was a right? Am I close?
///Should take an edible and go see Clifford instead?
 
2021-11-15 3:56:35 PM  
Christ, don't we need more years to pass before we try this revisionist bullshiat about crappy movies "actually, it was good all along!" nonsense? Starship Troopers still sucks, David Lynch's Dune still sucks, the Prequels still suck, and Quantum of Solace absolutely sucked, and it's too early to try and pretend otherwise.
 
2021-11-15 3:57:20 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Stratohead: so of the Craig Bond Films...we have a solid entry in Casino Royale... an okay follow up with Quantum of Solace... pure and utter trash that was Skyfall...and Spectre...Chritopher Waltz was just farking awful as Blofeld...
No Time to Die was a much welcome return to a decent Bond film...even if it did have some holes in in.
the sequence in Havana was worth the price of the rental.

Really? I thought QoS was utter trash that rivaled the final Brosnan-Bond movies.

Casino Royale
Spectre
No Time to Die
Skyfall
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Quantum of Solace


QoS really only works if you watch it RIGHT after the end credits of Casino Royale.


a lot of undeserved praise here for Spectre... barely any action. and shiatty retcon... 
what started as a group inspired by Nazis who went underground post WW2 was reduced to one over actor who was just jealous of his fathers affections for Bond? G.A.R.B.A.G.E. writing.

let alone Waltzs bullshiat performance
'Cuckoo! Cuckoo!"

Shut. The. fark. Up.
 
2021-11-15 3:58:56 PM  

MillionDollarMo: Thought it was an excellent, fantastically shot conclusion to what has become my favourite take on Bond to date.
But I dunno about that ending... They've never needed to do that and I'm not convinced it was necessary now when it wasn't ever before.
Still a ton of fun.


Visually kind of impressive, I guess. The story made no sense.
 
2021-11-15 4:00:08 PM  

Fireproof: Since everyone else is ranking them:

1. Skyfall
2. Casino Royale
3. No Time to Die
4. Spectre
5. Quantum of Solace


Counterpoint:
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2021-11-15 4:00:20 PM  
I just want the watch.

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2021-11-15 4:03:45 PM  
"Casino Royale" is pretty good. For a Bond film, it's fantastic. It almost qualifies as a good movie all on its own, which is almost unheard-of for a "Bond" film. And I'm a fan of the series. But it has always relied almost entirely on style and nostalgia.

And then, after that great start, all of the Craig movies turned to crap. They are self-serious slogs. "Bond" movies are generally pretty stupid, but they are at least fun.

The series needs to either disappear, or change *radically*. I think it's better if it just dies, honestly. There's nothing interesting left to do with the Bond character/universe. Not really. And other movies do it better. The "MIssion Impossible" movies are WAY better than any Bond movie. I can't stand Tom Cruise, but the MI movies are pretty great. Well, apart from the second one.
 
2021-11-15 4:04:49 PM  
I just realized that I was in a different sub-phase of my life when every one of the Craig movies came out:

Casino Royale: College kid.
QoS: Recent-ish college graduate living in American Samoa and watching it in the one tiny two-screen theater they had.
Skyfall: Working on a cruise ship and seeing it like two months late because I was in Australia, the last place to see anything.
Spectre: Saw it with my then-girlfriend while working my first "normal" career-level job in a mid-sized city, back in the States.
No Time to Die: Saw it while newly married to a totally different woman, while living in a different city, working a different job. Decided to go 3 weeks after release to lower our chances of catching that worldwide pandemic.
 
2021-11-15 4:06:09 PM  

PreMortem: I just want the watch.

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That's why I never understood Farkers getting upset over Daniel Craig saying he wasn't going to leave a big inheritance for his kids. Dude has had an endorsement deal with Omega for 15 years now. He's probably got a few million in free watches that, worse comes to worse, they can sell for probably six figures apiece, since they were actually worn by James Bond.
 
2021-11-15 4:09:58 PM  

stoli n coke: Fireproof: Since everyone else is ranking them:

1. Skyfall
2. Casino Royale
3. No Time to Die
4. Spectre
5. Quantum of Solace

I've gotten to the point of just disregarding Quantum of Solace. It had a disadvantage from the start because it was shot during the writers strike. Because the director had never written English language scripts, Daniel Craig was stuck doing a lot of the dialogue rewrites himself.
In a perfect world, they would have delayed shooting until after the strike was over.


I've also thought "Damn, they couldn't have timed it better to have a 007 come out in 2007?"

/The marketing graphics would have designed themselves.
 
2021-11-15 4:17:59 PM  

Heamer: Curious, the idiot who submits the weekly headline ripping on the top five films' box office totals--the most recent of which is a mere 15 links below this--claimed that No Time to Die was "clinging to life."

Why do those headlines keep getting greenlit? To stir up controversy and generate clicks? It's a tired format that rips on movies for the sake of being negative, and it's not even remotely clever.


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2021-11-15 4:31:29 PM  
Nano-anythinganymore. I'm really beginning to hate nanotech as magic in media. (read the wiki, didn't watch the movie yet)

I hated that Iron Man went from carefully choreographed suiting up to super power never at risk Tony nanosuits. I hate nano, hate it, and nowadays I'll avoid anything that uses it. It's that "lets just animate dust over everything" crutch that Fox was using for XMen films.
 
2021-11-15 4:33:19 PM  
Casino Royale
Skyfall
No Time To Die
Spectre
[being whacked in the nuts with a carpet beater]
Quantum of Solace
 
2021-11-15 4:54:01 PM  

Heamer: Curious, the idiot who submits the weekly headline ripping on the top five films' box office totals--the most recent of which is a mere 15 links below this--claimed that No Time to Die was "clinging to life."

Why do those headlines keep getting greenlit? To stir up controversy and generate clicks? It's a tired format that rips on movies for the sake of being negative, and it's not even remotely clever.


Thank you, those are the worst headlines on fark.
 
2021-11-15 5:03:25 PM  

jake3988: I thought that too because I had watched the first 2 scenes which were nothing but horrendous shaky-cam non-sense and stopped.  I had heard from others that they didn't like it so I just blindly assumed the rest of the movie was shaky-cam non-sense.

But a few years later I watched the whole movie, and not only is that the only shaky-cam in the movie... honestly, it's really quite good.


The other thing that I found out is that it is loosely based on a true story (the real story was more brutal), and that helped change my perspective a bit.

I'm watching No Time to Die literally right now, and I'm enjoying it a whole lot. The 25 minute intro sequence is fantastic, and Billie Ellish crushed the theme for it. Anything Spectre is a win.
 
2021-11-15 5:04:36 PM  
I loved No Time To Die, and I usually don't like movies that go down the way it did.  My reasoning is simple: it earned the right to travel the path it chose.  I find it interesting that someone upthread said Craig looked tired and going through the motions, when he honestly looked reinvigorated throughout.  Spectre...Spectre was where he looked like he wanted to be anywhere else but on set, and honestly, the whole movie felt that way.  But that's the problem you get when you try to shove '60s camp into a set of films that had largely bypassed that kind of nonsense.

The ending...like I said, No Time to Die earned it.  I'm glad it settled that way, and not in a fashion that would have been blatant bullsh*t pandering (J.J. Abrams comes to mind, and I'll leave you to pick which movie I'm referring to).  It's a proper conclusion to Craig's run, and to be honest, the only plausible one.
 
2021-11-15 5:06:56 PM  

MillionDollarMo: Thought it was an excellent, fantastically shot conclusion to what has become my favourite take on Bond to date.
But I dunno about that ending... They've never needed to do that and I'm not convinced it was necessary now when it wasn't ever before.
Still a ton of fun.


Good to know. I'll check it out Wednesday.
 
2021-11-15 5:13:18 PM  

Heamer: Curious, the idiot who submits the weekly headline ripping on the top five films' box office totals--the most recent of which is a mere 15 links below this--claimed that No Time to Die was "clinging to life."

Why do those headlines keep getting greenlit? To stir up controversy and generate clicks? It's a tired format that rips on movies for the sake of being negative, and it's not even remotely clever.


Why are people so obsessed with box office gross instead of more apples-to-apples metrics when comparing a movie's earnings, especially to past years, like ticket sales and ROI as a percentage? No other entertainment industry measurers success by gross sales - they all do units sold.
 
2021-11-15 5:25:32 PM  
As long as we get more of this

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I'll be happy.  Seriously, if she's not in the next movie I will take hostages.
 
2021-11-15 5:26:24 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Stratohead: so of the Craig Bond Films...we have a solid entry in Casino Royale... an okay follow up with Quantum of Solace... pure and utter trash that was Skyfall...and Spectre...Chritopher Waltz was just farking awful as Blofeld...
No Time to Die was a much welcome return to a decent Bond film...even if it did have some holes in in.
the sequence in Havana was worth the price of the rental.

Really? I thought QoS was utter trash that rivaled the final Brosnan-Bond movies.

Casino Royale
Spectre
No Time to Die
Skyfall
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Quantum of Solace


I like your list
 
2021-11-15 5:27:36 PM  
Wait, New Bond Movie No Time To Die Nearly Featured Even Less Of Ana De Armas' Awesome Character?

I hope whoever was responsible for that almost-blunder got fired.
 
2021-11-15 5:37:23 PM  
How to end it in style:

Three movies, ideally the "best" of the stories without Casino Royale since it's just been done. Goldfinger should be one of them.

Keep the movies modern, don't do any period stuff. Let the swagger be the nostalgia.

Bond is a man (it only works that way) but let him be African or Asian descended. Don't make it a thing, don't attempt to explain it in the movie, he's just not Caucasian. He's still British.

Don't fark around with the villains. They have to be villainous to a T. Women stunning, Bond suave, people get shot, money, cool weapons, cool car, boom, book it.
 
2021-11-15 5:38:13 PM  

thornhill: Heamer: Curious, the idiot who submits the weekly headline ripping on the top five films' box office totals--the most recent of which is a mere 15 links below this--claimed that No Time to Die was "clinging to life."

Why do those headlines keep getting greenlit? To stir up controversy and generate clicks? It's a tired format that rips on movies for the sake of being negative, and it's not even remotely clever.

Why are people so obsessed with box office gross instead of more apples-to-apples metrics when comparing a movie's earnings, especially to past years, like ticket sales and ROI as a percentage? No other entertainment industry measurers success by gross sales - they all do units sold.


Just a guess, but probably because different theaters charge different prices for tickets. Different prices on what showing someone buys a ticket for (matinees) and how old the customer is (kids and senior citizens discounts).

That isn't so much of an issue with other avenues of entertainment. You go to Best Buy and buy a Blu-Ray, it costs the same no matter how old you are or what time of day you bought it.
 
2021-11-15 7:06:49 PM  
I think both the opening and closing sequences of Quantum of Solace are good. The fall through the skylight and the fight on the ropes is excellent, imho.

I don't get the love for Spectre. Other than the opening helicopter fistfight, I thought it was pretty forgettable.
 
2021-11-15 7:07:33 PM  

steklo: MillionDollarMo: Thought it was an excellent, fantastically shot conclusion to what has become my favourite take on Bond to date.
But I dunno about that ending... They've never needed to do that and I'm not convinced it was necessary now when it wasn't ever before.
Still a ton of fun.

I won't watch it because I heard what happens.

Nope.


This.  As far as I'm concerned, the last Bond movie ever was Spectre.
 
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2021-11-15 7:41:16 PM  
Ghostbusters Afterlife: "Hold my beer."
 
2021-11-15 7:42:17 PM  
Watched it last week , it's one of the better Bond movies ..
 
2021-11-15 7:42:50 PM  

Clutch2013: The ending...like I said, No Time to Die earned it.  I'm glad it settled that way, and not in a fashion that would have been blatant bullsh*t pandering (J.J. Abrams comes to mind, and I'll leave you to pick which movie I'm referring to).  It's a proper conclusion to Craig's run, and to be honest, the only plausible one.


Just finished watching ti.

It's the first time a Bond movie actually made me feel something emotionally. Without getting spoilery, I'll just say that I think most of the audience could relate with the last 20 minutes of that movie. 

A long movie that never felt long either, so many different characters and locales but all balanced pretty well - and whomever wrote Rami's lines, came up with some of the best villain monologues in years.

A fantastic conclusion to the Craig Bond run, and can we talk about the cinematography for a second? Holy crap. Linus Sandgren has a hell of an eye for lighting.
 
2021-11-15 7:44:42 PM  
I dunno, I HATED this movie, and while I didn't love any of the Craig Bond flicks at least I could watch them in one sitting. This one took me 4 or 5.
 
2021-11-15 8:13:17 PM  

drewogatory: I dunno, I HATED this movie, and while I didn't love any of the Craig Bond flicks at least I could watch them in one sitting. This one took me 4 or 5.


I wasn't aware that it was even available outside of theaters. Poking around on the Flixster app, apparently you can see it on Amazon for $20 and have 24 hours to view it. Hardly time for five separate sittings, unless you mean you paused it and came back often.

Or have you confused it with another Craig Bond movie?
 
2021-11-15 9:18:04 PM  
It's a terrible farking cheesefest
 
2021-11-15 9:22:33 PM  

phimuskapsi: it is loosely based on a true story


The true story of a secret agent who was told he went over the line and to hand in his badge and gun but stuck it out and was infected by a nanovirus that kills based on preprogrammed DNA sequence that was programmed to attack his 20-years-younger-baby-mama who was brought to the supervillain's secret island because she had a secret past that was never explained to the secret agent who decided to go to the secret island despite the fact that literally anyone else could have gone in his place
 
2021-11-15 9:28:18 PM  

moothemagiccow: phimuskapsi: it is loosely based on a true story

The true story of a secret agent who was told he went over the line and to hand in his badge and gun but stuck it out and was infected by a nanovirus that kills based on preprogrammed DNA sequence that was programmed to attack his 20-years-younger-baby-mama who was brought to the supervillain's secret island because she had a secret past that was never explained to the secret agent who decided to go to the secret island despite the fact that literally anyone else could have gone in his place


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2021-11-15 9:37:24 PM  

MillionDollarMo: MillionDollarMo: Thought it was an excellent, fantastically shot conclusion to what has become my favourite take on Bond to date.
But I dunno about that ending... They've never needed to do that and I'm not convinced it was necessary now when it wasn't ever before.
Still a ton of fun.

And while we're at it...
Spectre was about tied as best with Casino Royale for me.
Then Skyfall, then Quantum.
Dunno where I place the latest one yet.
But I do know I liked them all.

But then I also think it was dope when Kirk asked "What does god need with a starship?"


Agree with your rankings. SPECTRE does get shiat on. I thought it was a damn fine Bond movie.

Then again, I often defend QoS, so no one cares what I think as a lifelong Bond fan anyway.

/the opening car chase in QoS is freaking awesome
 
2021-11-15 9:51:34 PM  

moothemagiccow: phimuskapsi: it is loosely based on a true story

The true story of a secret agent who was told he went over the line and to hand in his badge and gun but stuck it out and was infected by a nanovirus that kills based on preprogrammed DNA sequence that was programmed to attack his 20-years-younger-baby-mama who was brought to the supervillain's secret island because she had a secret past that was never explained to the secret agent who decided to go to the secret island despite the fact that literally anyone else could have gone in his place


Uh, I could be wrong, but I think they were talking about QoS with the "loosely based on a true story" part.

Also, probably not okay to post unmarked spoilers for a movie still in theaters.
 
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