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2021-11-13 11:00:35 AM  
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2021-11-13 11:31:16 AM  
That's an oddly specific amount for a fine
 
2021-11-13 11:44:32 AM  

RaceDTruck: That's an oddly specific amount for a fine


It is what they found under the couch cushions.
 
2021-11-13 11:46:30 AM  
Marsh is a poor sport whiner type, he needs to grow up.
 
2021-11-13 12:17:03 PM  
The taunting penalty needs some massive reforming. You can't sell your product as 'a game of emotion' and then jump on a player who happens to show, you know...emotion. Sure, there are degrees (re: throwing punches) but for what we saw on Monday that was pretty lame.

What if a player in a situation similar to what we saw on Monday is flagged for taunting has to spend the remainder of the half on the sidelines, but his team is not penalized? That player also gets a warning if it happens again they are ejected.
 
2021-11-13 12:39:10 PM  
I'm fairly sure the taunting penalty was to appease the old white geezers in the middle of the country who couldn't stand the idea that black men were celebrating in an uppity way.
 
2021-11-13 2:46:27 PM  
Well, that's stupid.
 
2021-11-13 3:32:00 PM  
The kick would've been fine. The extended walk toward the Pittsburgh bench is the penalty. Anyone who thinks that wasn't taunting is an idiot.

/not that I think taunting should be flagged, but that absolutely was of the variety that tends to earn you a flag
 
2021-11-13 3:40:32 PM  
Tony Corrente is a 70 year old man. If you are a 6'4" linebacker in full padding whining about being bumped into by an old man, then you are a fragile little baby.
 
2021-11-13 3:44:12 PM  

Ker_Thwap: I'm fairly sure the taunting penalty was to appease the old white geezers in the middle of the country who couldn't stand the idea that black men were celebrating in an uppity way.


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FIG. 1. Uppity black man Cassius Marsh.
 
2021-11-13 3:46:06 PM  
Cassius Marsh has been pre-fined for thinking about sacking Aaron Rodgers.
 
2021-11-13 4:06:29 PM  

Wadded Beef: The taunting penalty needs some massive reforming. You can't sell your product as 'a game of emotion' and then jump on a player who happens to show, you know...emotion. Sure, there are degrees (re: throwing punches) but for what we saw on Monday that was pretty lame.

What if a player in a situation similar to what we saw on Monday is flagged for taunting has to spend the remainder of the half on the sidelines, but his team is not penalized? That player also gets a warning if it happens again they are ejected.


But the entirety of the Pittsburgh defense sliding and celebrating in the end zone is a-ok.
 
2021-11-13 4:08:42 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: Ker_Thwap: I'm fairly sure the taunting penalty was to appease the old white geezers in the middle of the country who couldn't stand the idea that black men were celebrating in an uppity way.

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FIG. 1. Uppity black man Cassius Marsh.


I know who he is.  He sucked around on my team for part of a season.
 
2021-11-13 4:14:15 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Olympic Trolling Judge: Ker_Thwap: I'm fairly sure the taunting penalty was to appease the old white geezers in the middle of the country who couldn't stand the idea that black men were celebrating in an uppity way.

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FIG. 1. Uppity black man Cassius Marsh.

I know who he is.  He sucked around on my team for part of a season.


The only thing I remember from him were a couple big special teams hits when he was on the Squawks.
 
2021-11-13 4:17:22 PM  

puffy999: Ker_Thwap: Olympic Trolling Judge: Ker_Thwap: I'm fairly sure the taunting penalty was to appease the old white geezers in the middle of the country who couldn't stand the idea that black men were celebrating in an uppity way.

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FIG. 1. Uppity black man Cassius Marsh.

I know who he is.  He sucked around on my team for part of a season.

The only thing I remember from him were a couple big special teams hits when he was on the Squawks.


He did nothing for the Pats.  Then cried later.
 
2021-11-13 4:19:05 PM  

dietbubba: Wadded Beef: The taunting penalty needs some massive reforming. You can't sell your product as 'a game of emotion' and then jump on a player who happens to show, you know...emotion. Sure, there are degrees (re: throwing punches) but for what we saw on Monday that was pretty lame.

What if a player in a situation similar to what we saw on Monday is flagged for taunting has to spend the remainder of the half on the sidelines, but his team is not penalized? That player also gets a warning if it happens again they are ejected.

But the entirety of the Pittsburgh defense sliding and celebrating in the end zone is a-ok.


Yes, that's specifically been made OK. Just like every other gesture has been OK as long as you're not going out of your way to do it in your opponent's face.

What is hard to understand about that?

/IMO allow taunting, but ALSO allow the taunter to get punched in the mouth with no penalties for the puncher
 
2021-11-13 4:19:23 PM  

IAmRight: The kick would've been fine. The extended walk toward the Pittsburgh bench is the penalty. Anyone who thinks that wasn't taunting is an idiot.

/not that I think taunting should be flagged, but that absolutely was of the variety that tends to earn you a flag


But having your entire team run into the end zone to do a coriographed dance isn't taunting
 
2021-11-13 4:27:57 PM  
What's wrong with a good hip check?
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2021-11-13 4:31:01 PM  
Spotted the white geezers from middle America!
 
2021-11-13 4:33:16 PM  

abhorrent1: IAmRight: The kick would've been fine. The extended walk toward the Pittsburgh bench is the penalty. Anyone who thinks that wasn't taunting is an idiot.

/not that I think taunting should be flagged, but that absolutely was of the variety that tends to earn you a flag

But having your entire team run into the end zone to do a coriographed dance isn't taunting


That's excessive celebration, a different penalty.
 
2021-11-13 4:34:09 PM  

notyoucoach: What's wrong with a good hip check?
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How about the old classic:
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2021-11-13 4:49:23 PM  

KingKauff: That's excessive celebration, a different penalty.


It's not anymore.

Taunting itself *should* be reserved for getting in someone's face or standing over a player as he's down for way too long, things which can and do cause over reactions and fights.

Dancing toward a sideline is not much different than dancing toward opposing fans. Players aren't gonna run out and hit you for it.
 
2021-11-13 4:58:10 PM  

puffy999: KingKauff: That's excessive celebration, a different penalty.

It's not anymore.


I did not know that.

/baseball has more "taunting" than football, going by the NFL's "rules on taunting"
 
2021-11-13 5:00:06 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Spotted the white geezers from middle America!


Mike Tomlin agrees that taunting sets a bad example for young players. It is hard to officiate. The NFL is trying to let players celebrate a good play, but not cross a line.
 
2021-11-13 5:08:21 PM  

KingKauff: abhorrent1: IAmRight: The kick would've been fine. The extended walk toward the Pittsburgh bench is the penalty. Anyone who thinks that wasn't taunting is an idiot.

/not that I think taunting should be flagged, but that absolutely was of the variety that tends to earn you a flag

But having your entire team run into the end zone to do a coriographed dance isn't taunting

That's excessive celebration, a different penalty.


No.  The NFL specifically had that Endzone Cam put in for celebrations.  It is to take them away from the field and/or sideline celebrations (where it could be taunting) and put them out of the way in the back of the endzone so the players could get emotional and celebrate without breaking the rules.

/It's almost like context matters
//almost
 
2021-11-13 5:11:40 PM  

puffy999: KingKauff: That's excessive celebration, a different penalty.

It's not anymore.

Taunting itself *should* be reserved for getting in someone's face or standing over a player as he's down for way too long, things which can and do cause over reactions and fights.

Dancing toward a sideline is not much different than dancing toward opposing fans. Players aren't gonna run out and hit you for it.


A couple of weeks ago, a player knocked the ball away from a receiver and made a "not today"  gesture similiar to this:.

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He was given a 15 yard penalty for taunting.

If an offensive player does something and celebrates, even if he says something to another player on the opposing team (or the fans) its not taunting (right Aaron "I own your team" Rogers?).  If a defensive player makes a play and does anything other than walk back to the huddle or his sideline after his small celebration "move", its considered taunting, even if he doesnt say or even gesture at the other side.  Especially if the defense is the away team.
 
2021-11-13 5:14:05 PM  

IAmRight: The kick would've been fine. The extended walk toward the Pittsburgh bench is the penalty. Anyone who thinks that wasn't taunting is an idiot.

/not that I think taunting should be flagged, but that absolutely was of the variety that tends to earn you a flag


Further, when you take into account he was cut from Pittsburgh and I too find it tough to interpret it any other way.
 
2021-11-13 5:15:21 PM  

abmoraz: KingKauff: abhorrent1: IAmRight: The kick would've been fine. The extended walk toward the Pittsburgh bench is the penalty. Anyone who thinks that wasn't taunting is an idiot.

/not that I think taunting should be flagged, but that absolutely was of the variety that tends to earn you a flag

But having your entire team run into the end zone to do a coriographed dance isn't taunting

That's excessive celebration, a different penalty.

No.  The NFL specifically had that Endzone Cam put in for celebrations.  It is to take them away from the field and/or sideline celebrations (where it could be taunting) and put them out of the way in the back of the endzone so the players could get emotional and celebrate without breaking the rules.

/It's almost like context matters
//almost


When did they start that?  Was it last year when there were no fans, or did it start before?
 
2021-11-13 5:15:58 PM  

Warmachine999: puffy999: KingKauff: That's excessive celebration, a different penalty.

It's not anymore.

Taunting itself *should* be reserved for getting in someone's face or standing over a player as he's down for way too long, things which can and do cause over reactions and fights.

Dancing toward a sideline is not much different than dancing toward opposing fans. Players aren't gonna run out and hit you for it.

A couple of weeks ago, a player knocked the ball away from a receiver and made a "not today"  gesture similiar to this:.

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He was given a 15 yard penalty for taunting.

If an offensive player does something and celebrates, even if he says something to another player on the opposing team (or the fans) its not taunting (right Aaron "I own your team" Rogers?).  If a defensive player makes a play and does anything other than walk back to the huddle or his sideline after his small celebration "move", its considered taunting, even if he doesnt say or even gesture at the other side.  Especially if the defense is the away team.


Dikembe Mutombo frowns on those refs.
 
2021-11-13 5:16:53 PM  
Wow.  I really butchered his name.
 
2021-11-13 5:18:25 PM  

abmoraz: No. The NFL specifically had that Endzone Cam put in for celebrations. It is to take them away from the field and/or sideline celebrations (where it could be taunting) and put them out of the way in the back of the endzone so the players could get emotional and celebrate without breaking the rules.

/It's almost like context matters
//almost


It's almost like consistency matters. You can do the electric slide in your opponents endzone but don't you dare look at them the wrong way!

The taunting rule should be treated like porn. You know it when you see it. That wasn't taunting. That was zero tolerance run amok.
 
2021-11-13 5:18:29 PM  

puffy999: KingKauff: That's excessive celebration, a different penalty.

It's not anymore.

Taunting itself *should* be reserved for getting in someone's face or standing over a player as he's down for way too long, things which can and do cause over reactions and fights.

Dancing toward a sideline is not much different than dancing toward opposing fans. Players aren't gonna run out and hit you for it.


It's that and the mirroring of Harvin's run onto the field, now that I go back and look.

Corrente can't see his face, but check the video here at 0:56: https://youtu.be/r-c569Ht7lY

Harvin is coming into the field and Marsh mirrors him, moving backwards at the same rate while also moving sideways 2 yards on the field at the same rate Harvin was. You can see Corrente start grabbing his flag as Marsh finally turns away from the sideline/Harvin.

/hey, they're both former disappointing Seahawks!
 
2021-11-13 5:19:33 PM  

Warmachine999: puffy999: KingKauff: That's excessive celebration, a different penalty.

It's not anymore.

Taunting itself *should* be reserved for getting in someone's face or standing over a player as he's down for way too long, things which can and do cause over reactions and fights.

Dancing toward a sideline is not much different than dancing toward opposing fans. Players aren't gonna run out and hit you for it.

A couple of weeks ago, a player knocked the ball away from a receiver and made a "not today"  gesture similiar to this:.

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He was given a 15 yard penalty for taunting.

If an offensive player does something and celebrates, even if he says something to another player on the opposing team (or the fans) its not taunting (right Aaron "I own your team" Rogers?).  If a defensive player makes a play and does anything other than walk back to the huddle or his sideline after his small celebration "move", its considered taunting, even if he doesnt say or even gesture at the other side.  Especially if the defense is the away team.


That's an interesting theory and fits with my preconceived biases, so I'll roll with it. But I'm keeping my eyes open for it from now on. Off the top of my head I think you're correct when I think about what WRs get away with versus DBs getting flagged
 
2021-11-13 5:19:43 PM  

KingKauff: abmoraz: KingKauff: abhorrent1: IAmRight: The kick would've been fine. The extended walk toward the Pittsburgh bench is the penalty. Anyone who thinks that wasn't taunting is an idiot.

/not that I think taunting should be flagged, but that absolutely was of the variety that tends to earn you a flag

But having your entire team run into the end zone to do a coriographed dance isn't taunting

That's excessive celebration, a different penalty.

No.  The NFL specifically had that Endzone Cam put in for celebrations.  It is to take them away from the field and/or sideline celebrations (where it could be taunting) and put them out of the way in the back of the endzone so the players could get emotional and celebrate without breaking the rules.

/It's almost like context matters
//almost

When did they start that?  Was it last year when there were no fans, or did it start before?


You haven't seen those celebrations ALL THE TIME for the past few years, either in games or online?
 
2021-11-13 5:19:55 PM  
I was wondering if anyone not named John Mara was going to try and defend that abomination of a taunting penalty.
 
2021-11-13 5:22:49 PM  

IAmRight: puffy999: KingKauff: That's excessive celebration, a different penalty.

It's not anymore.

Taunting itself *should* be reserved for getting in someone's face or standing over a player as he's down for way too long, things which can and do cause over reactions and fights.

Dancing toward a sideline is not much different than dancing toward opposing fans. Players aren't gonna run out and hit you for it.

It's that and the mirroring of Harvin's run onto the field, now that I go back and look.

Corrente can't see his face, but check the video here at 0:56: https://youtu.be/r-c569Ht7lY

Harvin is coming into the field and Marsh mirrors him, moving backwards at the same rate while also moving sideways 2 yards on the field at the same rate Harvin was. You can see Corrente start grabbing his flag as Marsh finally turns away from the sideline/Harvin.

/hey, they're both former disappointing Seahawks!


Holy sh*t of COURSE two former Seahawks combined to create a questionable penalty that helped Ben Roethlisberger and the Steelers win a game they deserved to lose.
 
2021-11-13 5:23:47 PM  

IAmRight: KingKauff: abmoraz: KingKauff: abhorrent1: IAmRight: The kick would've been fine. The extended walk toward the Pittsburgh bench is the penalty. Anyone who thinks that wasn't taunting is an idiot.

/not that I think taunting should be flagged, but that absolutely was of the variety that tends to earn you a flag

But having your entire team run into the end zone to do a coriographed dance isn't taunting

That's excessive celebration, a different penalty.

No.  The NFL specifically had that Endzone Cam put in for celebrations.  It is to take them away from the field and/or sideline celebrations (where it could be taunting) and put them out of the way in the back of the endzone so the players could get emotional and celebrate without breaking the rules.

/It's almost like context matters
//almost

When did they start that?  Was it last year when there were no fans, or did it start before?

You haven't seen those celebrations ALL THE TIME for the past few years, either in games or online?


To be honest, no.  I really haven't watched much football the past few years.
 
2021-11-13 5:26:29 PM  

Howling Fantods: Tony Corrente is a 70 year old man. If you are a 6'4" linebacker in full padding whining about being bumped into by an old man, then you are a fragile little baby.


Yep.

And I'll repeat from the other thread: Cassius had the ENTIRE FIELD to roam... instead he chose, purposefully, to walk that close to the ref.  Why?  Even if Tony hadn't jutted out his butt a few inches to pull out the flag, he STILL would've bumped into him.

Did he know that Tony was pulling out his flag and wanted to 'stick it to him'?  Was Tony NOT going to pull a flag until Cassius purposefully bumped into him, thus angering Tony into pulling it?  (You could see the 'WTF' angry look on Tony's face afterwards).  It's unsportman-like penalty either way.

And then whining about it (the 'bump') afterwards is just the icing on the stupidity cake.   Even if the taunting may have been slightly overboard, he deserved a flag and a fine for everything that came after it anyway.
 
2021-11-13 5:26:38 PM  

KingKauff: IAmRight: KingKauff: abmoraz: KingKauff: abhorrent1: IAmRight: The kick would've been fine. The extended walk toward the Pittsburgh bench is the penalty. Anyone who thinks that wasn't taunting is an idiot.

/not that I think taunting should be flagged, but that absolutely was of the variety that tends to earn you a flag

But having your entire team run into the end zone to do a coriographed dance isn't taunting

That's excessive celebration, a different penalty.

No.  The NFL specifically had that Endzone Cam put in for celebrations.  It is to take them away from the field and/or sideline celebrations (where it could be taunting) and put them out of the way in the back of the endzone so the players could get emotional and celebrate without breaking the rules.

/It's almost like context matters
//almost

When did they start that?  Was it last year when there were no fans, or did it start before?

You haven't seen those celebrations ALL THE TIME for the past few years, either in games or online?

To be honest, no.  I really haven't watched much football the past few years.


BTW, looks like 2017, according to this article about how everyone was doing it in 2018: https://www.nfl.com/news/photo-credit-who-owns-the-group-pic-celebration-0ap3000000993325
 
2021-11-13 5:27:42 PM  

IAmRight: IAmRight: puffy999: KingKauff: That's excessive celebration, a different penalty.

It's not anymore.

Taunting itself *should* be reserved for getting in someone's face or standing over a player as he's down for way too long, things which can and do cause over reactions and fights.

Dancing toward a sideline is not much different than dancing toward opposing fans. Players aren't gonna run out and hit you for it.

It's that and the mirroring of Harvin's run onto the field, now that I go back and look.

Corrente can't see his face, but check the video here at 0:56: https://youtu.be/r-c569Ht7lY

Harvin is coming into the field and Marsh mirrors him, moving backwards at the same rate while also moving sideways 2 yards on the field at the same rate Harvin was. You can see Corrente start grabbing his flag as Marsh finally turns away from the sideline/Harvin.

/hey, they're both former disappointing Seahawks!

Holy sh*t of COURSE two former Seahawks combined to create a questionable penalty that helped Ben Roethlisberger and the Steelers win a game they deserved to lose.


But was he awarded a touchdown he didn't deserve?
 
2021-11-13 5:28:13 PM  

UNC_Samurai: I was wondering if anyone not named John Mara was going to try and defend that abomination of a taunting penalty.


It's a little surprising that so many here are defending the NFL and the refs but here we are.
I guess stupid rules and zero tolerance are fine on fark now.

Lets wait and see how those same people react next time a 5 year-old is suspended from school for making a finger gun. I'm sure they'll be fine with it. Rules are rules, right?
 
2021-11-13 5:29:28 PM  

jake3988: And I'll repeat from the other thread: Cassius had the ENTIRE FIELD to roam... instead he chose, purposefully, to walk that close to the ref. Why?


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2021-11-13 5:30:03 PM  

abhorrent1: Lets wait and see how those same people react next time a 5 year-old is suspended from school for making a finger gun


Don't we shoot them these days?
 
2021-11-13 5:32:04 PM  

abhorrent1: UNC_Samurai: I was wondering if anyone not named John Mara was going to try and defend that abomination of a taunting penalty.

It's a little surprising that so many here are defending the NFL and the refs but here we are.
I guess stupid rules and zero tolerance are fine on fark now.

Lets wait and see how those same people react next time a 5 year-old is suspended from school for making a finger gun. I'm sure they'll be fine with it. Rules are rules, right?


Yep, 'cause I point out that the rule was correctly applied based on the ref's point of view, I'm saying all those other things.

/if you taunt, your opponent should get one free punch or Russian face-slap at you and you each get fined equally if it connects
//then it's not playing favorites - you get what's coming to you
///no need to punish the team for individual stuff that doesn't benefit the team
 
2021-11-13 5:34:13 PM  

knbwhite: Ker_Thwap: Spotted the white geezers from middle America!

Mike Tomlin agrees that taunting sets a bad example for young players. It is hard to officiate. The NFL is trying to let players celebrate a good play, but not cross a line.


Yes, the NFL has eased up a bit on the celebration part.  My statement was phrased in the past tense.
 
2021-11-13 5:34:34 PM  

abhorrent1: IAmRight: The kick would've been fine. The extended walk toward the Pittsburgh bench is the penalty. Anyone who thinks that wasn't taunting is an idiot.

/not that I think taunting should be flagged, but that absolutely was of the variety that tends to earn you a flag

But having your entire team run into the end zone to do a coriographed dance isn't taunting


Or blowing kisses to the opposing sideline after a sack. Right TJ?
 
2021-11-13 5:36:17 PM  
I hope the Bears locker room is passing around a collection plate for this stupid fine since Marsh is basically making the practice squad minimum.
 
2021-11-13 5:36:19 PM  

germ78: abhorrent1: IAmRight: The kick would've been fine. The extended walk toward the Pittsburgh bench is the penalty. Anyone who thinks that wasn't taunting is an idiot.

/not that I think taunting should be flagged, but that absolutely was of the variety that tends to earn you a flag

But having your entire team run into the end zone to do a coriographed dance isn't taunting

Or blowing kisses to the opposing sideline after a sack. Right TJ?


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2021-11-13 5:37:50 PM  
Look I like the Bears but when I see that the ref is farking hip checking our guy with no provocation or nothin I turn the channel. Mongo would have turned that ref inside out right there on the field.
 
2021-11-13 5:42:38 PM  

abhorrent1: UNC_Samurai: I was wondering if anyone not named John Mara was going to try and defend that abomination of a taunting penalty.

It's a little surprising that so many here are defending the NFL and the refs but here we are.
I guess stupid rules and zero tolerance are fine on fark now.

Lets wait and see how those same people react next time a 5 year-old is suspended from school for making a finger gun. I'm sure they'll be fine with it. Rules are rules, right?


I don't see anyone defending zero tolerance.
 
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