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(Some Guy)   Jani Lane died in 2011, yet Warrant still tours. Freddie Mercury died in 1991. At what point do you think a band should stop calling themselves the original band name after the lead singer dies?   (warrantrocks.com) divider line
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2021-11-12 9:30:54 PM  
When one them is named Hall or Oates.
 
2021-11-12 9:39:30 PM  
Jani Lane

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/RIP Daria Morgendorffer's bestie
 
2021-11-12 9:40:06 PM  
AC/DC would like to have a word with subby.
 
2021-11-12 9:42:13 PM  
Depends on the band and if only the lead singer died (or left the band).  Queen only has half their lineup and probably shouldn't be going by Queen. AC/DC has had more of their career with their replacement singer than with their original.
 
2021-11-12 9:43:33 PM  
When the act is named after the lead singer

Otherwise, who cares? A band is not necessarily a person. If one, some, or all of the surviving members are carrying on their name, good for them, keep doing what they love (playing music and/or making money)
 
2021-11-12 9:53:22 PM  

NeoCortex42: Depends on the band and if only the lead singer died (or left the band).  Queen only has half their lineup and probably shouldn't be going by Queen. AC/DC has had more of their career with their replacement singer than with their original.


I don't understand why Queen doesn't just bill themselves as "May and Taylor", they're names are just about as recognizable as (and synonymous with) the band name
 
2021-11-12 10:04:30 PM  
The Sensational Alex Harvey Band made some fine albums with AH, then made one without him (SAHB (without Alex) Fourplay-it's quite good) which shows AH being held captive by the remaining members of on the back cover. Next- back together again for a final album. After AH's death some   members  later merged together for a while  w/ their own tribute band which still continues. Cheeky Scots/great music.
 
2021-11-12 10:52:20 PM  

no1curr: NeoCortex42: Depends on the band and if only the lead singer died (or left the band).  Queen only has half their lineup and probably shouldn't be going by Queen. AC/DC has had more of their career with their replacement singer than with their original.

I don't understand why Queen doesn't just bill themselves as "May and Taylor", they're names are just about as recognizable as (and synonymous with) the band name


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2021-11-12 11:01:18 PM  
I think that decision depends on what the rest of the band wants to do, not on what some randos on the internet think. Led Zeppelin lost their drummer and decided they didn't want a replacement and the band ended. AC/DC replaced their lead singer and they are still going.
 
2021-11-12 11:03:05 PM  

OK So Amuse Me: I think that decision depends on what the rest of the band wants to do, not on what some randos on the internet think. Led Zeppelin lost their drummer and decided they didn't want a replacement and the band ended. AC/DC replaced their lead singer and they are still going.


Angus is the only original member still there.
 
2021-11-12 11:12:15 PM  

Aussie_As: OK So Amuse Me: I think that decision depends on what the rest of the band wants to do, not on what some randos on the internet think. Led Zeppelin lost their drummer and decided they didn't want a replacement and the band ended. AC/DC replaced their lead singer and they are still going.

Angus is the only original member still there.


Hmm, I didn't know that.
 
2021-11-12 11:20:54 PM  
Jain Lane died?
 
2021-11-12 11:29:24 PM  
Be like RUSH without Peart?
 
2021-11-13 1:42:27 AM  

no1curr: I don't understand why Queen doesn't just bill themselves as "May and Taylor", they're names are just about as recognizable as (and synonymous with) the band name


Then people would expect to hear Back to the Light instead of Night at the Opera.  Also, you always go with less characters.
 
2021-11-13 2:27:15 AM  
At no point. A band can be like Trigger's broom if they like.
 
2021-11-13 3:19:59 AM  
Some bands have no original members.  I've heard Tatiana doesn't really like the name Jinjer for her band, but none of the original members who chose it are still around, and it seems late to change it.
 
2021-11-13 3:24:48 AM  
Well, this submission seems Unwarranted.
 
2021-11-13 3:34:06 AM  
If you replace all the parts of a car, is it a different car? I guess it all depends on whether the original VIN remains.

How many bands have split and both factions tried to keep the name?

The current Journey band is a little weird.
 
2021-11-13 3:47:38 AM  
GWAR definitely comes to mind.
 
2021-11-13 3:56:18 AM  
When it stops becoming profitable.

Or when you want a fresh start.

At least in the internet age, if you only want to follow a certain performer, google is right there. No need to waste time driving down to the record shop and finding the one employee who cares enough about your particular genre to be encyclopedic enough to know why X band is gone, but really, they split, and X person is here, Y person is solo, and Z is in rehab, and that one band guy died, but he was in a subgenre small enough the evening news didn't bother to write a story for it.

A band is nothing more than a brand. The Yankees are still the Yankees after Ruth was gone. The good and bad times. If Queen wants to still be Queen, it's their trademark/IP. Have at it. Or don't.
 
2021-11-13 4:06:57 AM  
Depends on individual circumstances and who holds copyright.

Lemmy can keep going as Motörhead without the other members but the other members can't go on without him.

Napalm death has no founding members but a steady line up for 30 years

Black flag has Greg Ginn and no one else original and dead Kennedy's have largely original members minus jello

At one time there were two prodigy's.

Ultimately it's up to the audience to show up.
 
2021-11-13 4:10:36 AM  
Bands are legal, corporate entities regardless of the people in them. Just like how the Red Sox are still the Red Sox even though every original player is dead.

Just look at Sugababes in the UK.
 
2021-11-13 4:13:26 AM  
The correct way to do it:

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2021-11-13 4:31:51 AM  
Name your band "Ship of Theseus," and never worry about that question again.
 
2021-11-13 4:44:49 AM  

nigeman: Depends on individual circumstances and who holds copyright.

Lemmy can keep going as Motörhead without the other members but the other members can't go on without him.

Napalm death has no founding members but a steady line up for 30 years

Black flag has Greg Ginn and no one else original and dead Kennedy's have largely original members minus jello

At one time there were two prodigy's.

Ultimately it's up to the audience to show up.


If you're bringing up superannuated punk acts, add Fang to the zero original member list, at least the vast majority of the time over the last 30+ years. Sammy owns the band name for some reason or other, but he's the second singer.
 
2021-11-13 4:51:07 AM  
Kamelot has been around since 1995, but the only remaining founding member is the lead guitarist Thomas Youngblood.  Their sound has evolved some, but it's still recognizable.
 
2021-11-13 5:07:21 AM  
?
 
2021-11-13 5:21:59 AM  

nigeman: Depends on individual circumstances and who holds copyright.

Lemmy can keep going as Motörhead without the other members but the other members can't go on without him.


Sadly, I don't think he can.
 
2021-11-13 5:28:10 AM  
Roger Waters: not dead.
David Lee Roth: not dead.
Both bands continued to have commercial success after the lead singer left.
 
2021-11-13 5:36:17 AM  

OK So Amuse Me: Led Zeppelin lost their drummer and decided they didn't want a replacement and the band ended.


My impression is Plant was tired of Led Zeppelin and just needed an excuse to end it.

I doubt Bonham's death was the excuse he wanted though.
 
2021-11-13 5:37:43 AM  
Jani Lane was a sweet, smart dude. He wasn't the deep artist he wanted to be, but he tried his best and music industry people did absolutely sick, horrible things to him. I never had the big hit album, but I had this tape when I was a kid:

Warrant - April 2031
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2021-11-13 5:51:43 AM  
Yes laughs at this conversation
 
2021-11-13 5:55:33 AM  
I remember some older relatives really excited about Foghat coming to a small bar near our dinky little PA coal region town.

They went to see the show and the only original member was the drummer, who apparently did not sing. The drum kit was front and center on stage, and I'm told the length of the drum solo would have shamed the jammiest of jam bands.
 
2021-11-13 5:56:28 AM  

puffy999: no1curr: NeoCortex42: Depends on the band and if only the lead singer died (or left the band).  Queen only has half their lineup and probably shouldn't be going by Queen. AC/DC has had more of their career with their replacement singer than with their original.

I don't understand why Queen doesn't just bill themselves as "May and Taylor", they're names are just about as recognizable as (and synonymous with) the band name

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2021-11-13 6:44:54 AM  
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2021-11-13 6:52:50 AM  

nytmare: If you replace all the parts of a car, is it a different car? I guess it all depends on whether the original VIN remains.

How many bands have split and both factions tried to keep the name?

The current Journey band is a little weird.


There were two Beach Boys bands touring at one time.
 
2021-11-13 6:53:29 AM  

Abacus9: nigeman: Depends on individual circumstances and who holds copyright.

Lemmy can keep going as Motörhead without the other members but the other members can't go on without him.

Sadly, I don't think he can.


True, I meant Motörhead kept going when he was the only original member of the group, but now that he's gone, Phil and mikkey couldn't continue as Motörhead
 
2021-11-13 7:00:11 AM  
Doesn't matter, because P-Funk is forever.
 
2021-11-13 7:06:41 AM  
Jani Lane (born John Kennedy Oswald; February 1, 1964 - August 11, 2011)


Wow, that's a fortunate name, innit? -s
I would think that he would change his name at the closest opportunity.
/and probably choke the crap out of his dad when he was old enough.
 
2021-11-13 7:09:24 AM  

haknudsen: nytmare: If you replace all the parts of a car, is it a different car? I guess it all depends on whether the original VIN remains.

How many bands have split and both factions tried to keep the name?

The current Journey band is a little weird.

There were two Beach Boys bands touring at one time.


I can think of at least two hair bands that are doing this; Queensrÿche is never getting back together with Tate, and Tate has that "Operation:Mindcrime" thing going. And the other...is Great White. Why one would book ANY version of that godforsaken band is beyond me.

\Fark Biechele, the GDMFn Dederians (whom I met while playing there) and every crooked official who looked the other way before February 20, 2003
 
2021-11-13 7:15:34 AM  
Many of the cells in a human body die and are replaced as a matter of course. At what point should the human change her name?
 
2021-11-13 7:15:48 AM  

no1curr: NeoCortex42: Depends on the band and if only the lead singer died (or left the band).  Queen only has half their lineup and probably shouldn't be going by Queen. AC/DC has had more of their career with their replacement singer than with their original.

I don't understand why Queen doesn't just bill themselves as "May and Taylor", they're names are just about as recognizable as (and synonymous with) the band name


May and Taylor Consultancy
 
2021-11-13 7:21:59 AM  

no1curr: NeoCortex42: Depends on the band and if only the lead singer died (or left the band).  Queen only has half their lineup and probably shouldn't be going by Queen. AC/DC has had more of their career with their replacement singer than with their original.

I don't understand why Queen doesn't just bill themselves as "May and Taylor", they're names are just about as recognizable as (and synonymous with) the band name


Queen will sell a lot more tickets than "May and Taylor"
 
2021-11-13 7:22:12 AM  

bostonguy: Bands are legal, corporate entities regardless of the people in them. Just like how the Red Sox are still the Red Sox even though every original player is dead.

Just look at Sugababes in the UK.


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2021-11-13 7:31:20 AM  
If a sports team can keep the same name year after year then why can't a band?
 
2021-11-13 7:31:28 AM  

jm105: Roger Waters: not dead.
David Lee Roth: not dead.
Both bands continued to have commercial success after the lead singer left.


Despite what Roger would tell you, there were other people in Pink Floyd who had a great deal of influence in how they sounded, so he wasn't really irreplaceable.  I'd argue that in a lot of ways, losing Syd was far more disruptive to them and took them longer to find their way after than losing Roger did.
 
2021-11-13 7:46:22 AM  
Whenever they decide to.  Not up to us.
 
2021-11-13 7:53:57 AM  

jake_lex: jm105: Roger Waters: not dead.
David Lee Roth: not dead.
Both bands continued to have commercial success after the lead singer left.

Despite what Roger would tell you, there were other people in Pink Floyd who had a great deal of influence in how they sounded, so he wasn't really irreplaceable.  I'd argue that in a lot of ways, losing Syd was far more disruptive to them and took them longer to find their way after than losing Roger did.


I don't know man, they became the greatest version after Syd, not so much after Roger left. I really think Pink Floyd thrived with the contributions of both Roger and David, they needed that balance, too much Roger singing about his father in the war gets old and while I tend to like David Gilmour more he kinda needs the rawness and weirdness of Roger Waters to truly be called Pink Floyd.
 
2021-11-13 7:55:32 AM  
Feel free to stop buying their stuff, subby, but sometimes the lead singer isn't the key holding the band together, or the key to their success, and they sound just as good or better with a new singer. Not always, but sometimes.
 
2021-11-13 8:01:33 AM  
Donald Fagen discussed this at length after Walter Brecker died. If it were up to him, he would tour under the "Dukes of September" mode from this point on, but the Labels insist Steely Dan live on.

Another good example is when Gregg Allman finally retired ABB. Many people would say it should have died after "Eat a Peach", but Capricorn insisted they soldier on.
 
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