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2021-11-10 9:25:25 PM  
Each person added to a hike adds half an hour to the get-out-the-door starting time.

What you do when you walk alone is manage your risks.  Climb on rocks?  Nope.  Run down that steep down-hill trail.  Nope.
 
2021-11-10 9:53:04 PM  
Dont fark around with the desert. The mojave gives zero farks about you. If you think you have enough water, you dont.
 
2021-11-11 6:12:18 AM  
Is this the second "sure, you go back to the car, I'll be back in an hour" death, or the third this year?
 
2021-11-11 6:13:48 AM  
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2021-11-11 6:14:42 AM  

Ass_Master_Flash: Dont fark around with the desert. The mojave gives zero farks about you. If you think you have enough water, you dont.


almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
 
2021-11-11 6:17:09 AM  
Correction, never go hiking with your murderer.
 
2021-11-11 6:17:16 AM  
Well, It's not called Happy Happy Fun Times Valley for a good reason.

Maybe it's time to rename it to Fark Around and Find Out Gulch.
 
2021-11-11 6:18:17 AM  
Okay, let's go for a hike! At a place where we'd be relatively sure of survival. Hmm...Life Hills? No. Sounds boring. How about...DEATH Valley? Sure! That sounds nice!
 
2021-11-11 6:18:30 AM  
One night I dreamed a dream.
As I was walking in Death Valley with my Lord.
Across the dark sky flashed scenes from my life.
For each scene, I noticed two sets of footprints in the sand,
One belonging to me and one to my Lord.
After the last scene of my life flashed before me,
I looked back at the footprints in the sand.
I noticed that at many times along the path of my life,
especially at the very lowest and saddest times,
there was only one set of footprints.
This really troubled me, so I asked the Lord about it.
"Lord, you said once I decided to follow you,
You'd walk with me all the way.
But I noticed that during the saddest and most troublesome times of my life,
there was only one set of footprints.
I don't understand why, when I needed You the most, You would leave me."
He whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you
Never, ever, during your trials and testings.
When you saw only one set of footprints,
It was then that you had told me to go back to the car."
 
2021-11-11 6:27:43 AM  

Ass_Master_Flash: Dont fark around with the desert. The mojave gives zero farks about you. If you think you have enough water, you dont.


I hiked to the floor of the Grand Canyon a decade or so ago and was amazed at how much it dried me out.  I was in great shape, had just returned from Iraq and was used to being slow cooked. Still once you drop under the rim it's just heat from all sides IN OCTOBER.

Coming back up the next day I was surprised at how many people had casually strolled down the rim with just 16oz or water or sometimes none... in flip flops. Yeah you're only a mile and a half down the Bright Angel but that means you have a 1.5 mile CLIMB back up in the afternoon, with no water.  You'll remember that hike for sure.
 
2021-11-11 6:27:55 AM  
Dumbass reads article about another dumbass and comes to the dumbass conclusion of "never hike alone"
 
2021-11-11 6:29:16 AM  

Ass_Master_Flash: Dont fark around with the desert. The mojave gives zero farks about you. If you think you have enough water, you dont.


Actually, nature gives zero farks about you in general, not just the desert.

True, some places are relatively benign compared to others, but people die from stupidity even in relatively benign wilderness.


"Stupidity cannot be cured. Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death. There is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity." ― Robert Heinlein
 
2021-11-11 6:30:20 AM  

NathanAllen: Correction, never go hiking with your murderer.


To be fair, you won't know if I'm your murderer until you go hiking with me.
 
2021-11-11 6:32:56 AM  
Gabby Petito wasn't hiking alone...
 
2021-11-11 6:34:02 AM  

NathanAllen: Correction, never go hiking with your murderer.


Foot prints.  Did you read TFA.
 
2021-11-11 6:34:34 AM  
"The man who goes alone can start today; but he who travels with another must wait until that other is ready..."~Henry David Thoreau

You do you, but I've backpacked thousands of miles alone and it didn't kill me. Don't hike stupid would be better advice. Alone or with others, mistakes kill sometimes. Don't make any if you can help it ;)
 
2021-11-11 6:35:57 AM  
I spend a bit of time outside here in Oregon. I have a rescue dog who may have to have a hind leg amputated in the next year or so and am trying to get as much outdoor time with her as possible first.

Here it's very important to read the weather forecast and pack a little bit for everything as conditions can change fast.

This was the other week, right under the frost line. Everything was muddy and deep. I lost the trail (common here in fall) and turned around.
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So we dropped back down to the car and hiked around on the logging roads.  This was actually on Halloween day. Nothing like some spooky woods on Halloween.  I was not interested in getting lost and sleeping overnight out there though. It was freezing cold and swampy.

I need to be better at letting people know when I go out. That said I don't do a lot of cute shiat while in the woods. I try to stick to my plan and not mess around. Snap decisions while out alone can lead to bad bad times.

Oregon has very remote places and in the winter it's easy to get swallowed up.
 
2021-11-11 6:36:12 AM  
If you do and it storms, hold your head up high.
 
2021-11-11 6:40:59 AM  

omg bbq: Ass_Master_Flash: Dont fark around with the desert. The mojave gives zero farks about you. If you think you have enough water, you dont.

I hiked to the floor of the Grand Canyon a decade or so ago and was amazed at how much it dried me out.  I was in great shape, had just returned from Iraq and was used to being slow cooked. Still once you drop under the rim it's just heat from all sides IN OCTOBER.

Coming back up the next day I was surprised at how many people had casually strolled down the rim with just 16oz or water or sometimes none... in flip flops. Yeah you're only a mile and a half down the Bright Angel but that means you have a 1.5 mile CLIMB back up in the afternoon, with no water.  You'll remember that hike for sure.


I was in Yellowstone three weeks ago.

Even there the altitude alone will dry you out.  I do a brisk walk every morning carrying a 50 lb backpack to stay in shape (Dr. said no running because 50+ year old joints).  I go for an hour, about 3.3 miles, and sometimes at lunch for half an hour.  Occasionally on the weekends I'll go much farther, especially for a ham radio thing like Summits On The Air or Rapid Deployment Amateur Radio (RaDAR) contest.

I did a 1.6 mile loop at Yellowstone to look at some thermal features.  Mostly flat on boardwalks, and I took my time, but it felt like doing my 3+ miles with a pack.

I was very thirsty and far more tired than I should be after a bit over a mile and a half at a leisurely pace, stopping to read the signs.

The difference between living at around 350 feet above sea level and visiting at 8,000 feet above sea level.
 
2021-11-11 6:42:43 AM  
It wasn't a blazing hot day so it wasn't likely heat related. I'm just guessing like the rest of you but I believe it was more likely a medical emergency. A hiking companion may have saved her life in such an instance.
 
2021-11-11 6:44:00 AM  
When I go to Vegas, I usually like to go out solo hiking around lake Mead. But I pretty much always follow the shoreline so I'm always a couple feet away from a quick swim and run into the occasional fisherman or weekend camper, and I typically start at sun up, which gets me back to the car well before high noon in the desert.

The idea that an "experienced hiker" would START wandering around in Death Valley at 11:00 is mind boggling.
 
2021-11-11 6:45:58 AM  

TwowheelinTim: It wasn't a blazing hot day so it wasn't likely heat related. I'm just guessing like the rest of you but I believe it was more likely a medical emergency. A hiking companion may have saved her life in such an instance.


Don't go anywhere or do anything alone then. Certainly don't live alone. And you'd be amazed how many people die in their sleep.
 
2021-11-11 6:46:01 AM  

snowshovel: When I go to Vegas, I usually like to go out solo hiking around lake Mead. But I pretty much always follow the shoreline so I'm always a couple feet away from a quick swim and run into the occasional fisherman or weekend camper, and I typically start at sun up, which gets me back to the car well before high noon in the desert.

The idea that an "experienced hiker" would START wandering around in Death Valley at 11:00 is mind boggling.


It was not a hot day.
 
2021-11-11 6:48:22 AM  

Russ1642: TwowheelinTim: It wasn't a blazing hot day so it wasn't likely heat related. I'm just guessing like the rest of you but I believe it was more likely a medical emergency. A hiking companion may have saved her life in such an instance.

Don't go anywhere or do anything alone then. Certainly don't live alone. And you'd be amazed how many people die in their sleep.


Sure

/live alone
///hope to die in my sleep
 
2021-11-11 6:51:13 AM  

Nocrash: NathanAllen: Correction, never go hiking with your murderer.

Foot prints.  Did you read TFA.


When the victim asked "what about the times when I only saw one set of prints?", the murderer replied "It was those times when I carried your lifeless corpse".
 
2021-11-11 6:52:27 AM  

TwoHead: You do you


What a pleasant way to say "Go fark yourself".
 
2021-11-11 6:56:06 AM  
When I hike alone I try to pick the more popular trails. I met someone to hike with on those trails so we can hike the less crowded trails.
 
2021-11-11 6:57:36 AM  

Nocrash: NathanAllen: Correction, never go hiking with your murderer.

Foot prints.  Did you read TFA.


Never go hiking with your footprints? Is it still hiking if you walk on your hands?
 
2021-11-11 6:59:06 AM  
This is why I only hike to the refrigerator and back to my chair.
 
2021-11-11 7:02:07 AM  

TwowheelinTim: snowshovel: When I go to Vegas, I usually like to go out solo hiking around lake Mead. But I pretty much always follow the shoreline so I'm always a couple feet away from a quick swim and run into the occasional fisherman or weekend camper, and I typically start at sun up, which gets me back to the car well before high noon in the desert.

The idea that an "experienced hiker" would START wandering around in Death Valley at 11:00 is mind boggling.

It was not a hot day.


It was 87 degrees.

That's plenty hot enough to kill you.
 
2021-11-11 7:03:23 AM  
As I hike through the Valley of Death
I take a look at my life and realize there's nothin' left
'Cause I've been walking' and pantin' so long, that
Even my body knows that my water is gone.

Fool, death ain't nothin' but a heart beat away
I'm livin' life do or die, what can I say?
I'm 27 now but will I live to see 28?
The way things is going, my chances aren't great.
 
2021-11-11 7:05:56 AM  

Lindseys Lil Ladybugs: This is why I only hike to the refrigerator and back to my chair.


Fly away home?
 
2021-11-11 7:11:52 AM  

Gyrfalcon: TwowheelinTim: snowshovel: When I go to Vegas, I usually like to go out solo hiking around lake Mead. But I pretty much always follow the shoreline so I'm always a couple feet away from a quick swim and run into the occasional fisherman or weekend camper, and I typically start at sun up, which gets me back to the car well before high noon in the desert.

The idea that an "experienced hiker" would START wandering around in Death Valley at 11:00 is mind boggling.

It was not a hot day.

It was 87 degrees.

That's plenty hot enough to kill you.


Maybe for somebody with a medical condition. 87 F not 87 C
 
2021-11-11 7:12:30 AM  
And I hike alone.  Yeah, with nobody else.  You know when I hike alone, I prefer to be by myself.
 
2021-11-11 7:15:55 AM  

baronbloodbath: Well, It's not called Happy Happy Fun Times Valley for a good reason.

Maybe it's time to rename it to Fark Around and Find Out Gulch.


Do not taunt Happy Happy Fun Times Valley.
 
2021-11-11 7:19:05 AM  
I count my blessings every day.
 
2021-11-11 7:22:01 AM  

hardinparamedic: Ass_Master_Flash: Dont fark around with the desert. The mojave gives zero farks about you. If you think you have enough water, you dont.

almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter


Now I'm picturing Edgar Winter performing "Frankenstein" in a radiation suit.
 
2021-11-11 7:25:34 AM  

Nocrash: NathanAllen: Correction, never go hiking with your murderer.

Foot prints.  Did you read TFA.


Farkin, god, man. He's alright.
Outside Providence - Footprints
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2021-11-11 7:30:33 AM  
I hike alone all the time. Maybe don't hike alone in a place with the word DEATH right there in the name.
 
2021-11-11 7:39:04 AM  

TwowheelinTim: Gyrfalcon: TwowheelinTim: snowshovel: When I go to Vegas, I usually like to go out solo hiking around lake Mead. But I pretty much always follow the shoreline so I'm always a couple feet away from a quick swim and run into the occasional fisherman or weekend camper, and I typically start at sun up, which gets me back to the car well before high noon in the desert.

The idea that an "experienced hiker" would START wandering around in Death Valley at 11:00 is mind boggling.

It was not a hot day.

It was 87 degrees.

That's plenty hot enough to kill you.

Maybe for somebody with a medical condition. 87 F not 87 C


Yeah, seems like that wouldn't kill you that quickly.  If you don't have enough water, probably take a day or two, maybe more for that kind of heat to kill you.  Assuming no water.  I'm guessing a medical issue like a sudden heart attack or an aneurysm.

Probably sudden enough that it wouldn't have mattered if she was alone or not.

Checking Google Earth, that place is Hell and gone from anywhere.

My brother is a park ranger at Yellowstone.  When he sees tourists doing stupid stuff, he reminds them that the closest hospital is 2.5 hours away.  If there isn't a traffic jam (caused by a bison herd in the road, most often).  The other option is a helicopter ride that will cost about $50,000.

It looks like this place has about the same access to emergency health care.
 
2021-11-11 7:42:07 AM  

TwowheelinTim: Gyrfalcon: TwowheelinTim: snowshovel: When I go to Vegas, I usually like to go out solo hiking around lake Mead. But I pretty much always follow the shoreline so I'm always a couple feet away from a quick swim and run into the occasional fisherman or weekend camper, and I typically start at sun up, which gets me back to the car well before high noon in the desert.

The idea that an "experienced hiker" would START wandering around in Death Valley at 11:00 is mind boggling.

It was not a hot day.

It was 87 degrees.

That's plenty hot enough to kill you.

Maybe for somebody with a medical condition. 87 F not 87 C


Granted 87 degrees isn't "extreme" hot, but with full sun and no shade at high noon along with typical desert scrabble rocks makes it plenty hot to potentially cause issues without precautions.
 
2021-11-11 7:43:53 AM  
Makes me kinda wonder about all those times I was out hiking and felt like I was going to die. Probably came a sh*t ton closer than I care to realize.
 
2021-11-11 7:47:07 AM  

Rapmaster2000: And I hike alone.  Yeah, with nobody else.  You know when I hike alone, I prefer to be by myself.


My shadow's the only one that walks beside me
My shallow heart's about to just stop beating
Sometimes, I wish someone out there will find me
'Til then, I die alone
 
2021-11-11 7:53:55 AM  

omg bbq: I spend a bit of time outside here in Oregon. I have a rescue dog who may have to have a hind leg amputated in the next year or so and am trying to get as much outdoor time with her as possible first.

Here it's very important to read the weather forecast and pack a little bit for everything as conditions can change fast.

This was the other week, right under the frost line. Everything was muddy and deep. I lost the trail (common here in fall) and turned around.
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So we dropped back down to the car and hiked around on the logging roads.  This was actually on Halloween day. Nothing like some spooky woods on Halloween.  I was not interested in getting lost and sleeping overnight out there though. It was freezing cold and swampy.

I need to be better at letting people know when I go out. That said I don't do a lot of cute shiat while in the woods. I try to stick to my plan and not mess around. Snap decisions while out alone can lead to bad bad times.

Oregon has very remote places and in the winter it's easy to get swallowed up.


Get a SPOT, or at the very least an EPIRB.
 
2021-11-11 7:56:14 AM  

Sgygus: Each person added to a hike adds half an hour to the get-out-the-door starting time.


Ha! Yep, this. To get to the mountains where I have been hiking it takes 2 hours, so I routinely leave at 5am. Anytime someone wants to join me I tell them the 5am departure time but it always ends up 5:30 or later.
 
2021-11-11 7:59:25 AM  

dittybopper: TwoHead: You do you

What a pleasant way to say "Go fark yourself".


Its non-southern for "bless your heart"
 
2021-11-11 8:06:05 AM  

Sgygus: Each person added to a hike adds half an hour to the get-out-the-door starting time.

What you do when you walk alone is manage your risks.  Climb on rocks?  Nope.  Run down that steep down-hill trail.  Nope.


I'd also add that it depends on how heavily trafficked the area is.  I've gone through the mountains of the phoenix area by myself a bunch, but there were almost always someone that would have come up on you in less than 10 minutes
 
2021-11-11 8:06:25 AM  
I don't hike, but these devices only cost a few hundred bucks.  I wouldn't leave home without it.

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2021-11-11 8:08:07 AM  
Rangers likely would have said something if it was an animal mauling or snake bite. 87 was the high and the days are short so it wasn't hot for very long. Evening temps would have been very comfortable and overnight lows were in the 60's. She was 27, experienced, and when rangers went looking for her the next morning, they easily tracked her down so she couldn't have been far off the trail or maybe even still on the trail. Since everyone else here is making wild-ass guesses, mine's that she was diabetic and didn't have a candy bar when her blood sugar spiked.
 
2021-11-11 8:08:52 AM  

dittybopper: TwoHead: You do you

What a pleasant way to say "Go fark yourself".


Bless your heart
 
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