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2021-11-07 6:56:08 AM  
Silent and deadly. Sounds like we need to track Taco Bell consumption and factor that into the analysis.
 
2021-11-07 7:00:38 AM  
"if one of these devastating events is on the way, then we need to know about it"

Why? Its not like we can do anything about it.  How about, instead, spend money on a way to prevent the eruption, rather than detecting our impending doom?  Once you have a prevention method then either work on detection or start disarming these timebombs that likely won't go off before we kill ourselves with c02, plastic, and pharmaceutical runoff in the water.
 
2021-11-07 7:08:06 AM  

fuzzybacchus: "if one of these devastating events is on the way, then we need to know about it"

Why? Its not like we can do anything about it.  How about, instead, spend money on a way to prevent the eruption, rather than detecting our impending doom?  Once you have a prevention method then either work on detection or start disarming these timebombs that likely won't go off before we kill ourselves with c02, plastic, and pharmaceutical runoff in the water.


What, lance it like a giant boil and let it drain?

I'm no geologist; is that something that could theoretically work, or have real geologists already shot down the idea?
 
2021-11-07 7:08:17 AM  
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2021-11-07 7:15:56 AM  
A decade-long winter could result?

Better get the snowblower gassed up. And pickup more razor wire and detonators.

/yeah I'll last a day
 
2021-11-07 7:16:58 AM  
I have been stockpiling spam, twinkies and zirconium. Also, the kind of girls that are into them.
 
2021-11-07 7:17:22 AM  
What if we drop a nuclear bomb into the mouth of every volcano?  If it works for hurricanes, it has to work for volcanos.
 
2021-11-07 7:17:37 AM  
Scientists estimate that there are around 5-10 volcanoes around the world capable of a super-eruption - one that would catastrophically affect the global climate. Toba volcano could be one of these, and if one of these devastating events is on the way, then we need to know about it.

We don't need to know. There's nothing we could do to stop it, delay it, or prepare for it. Just hope you're close enough that it's a swift death, or on the opposite side of the world so you can suffer the climatological effects for years and maybe not starve.
 
2021-11-07 7:18:05 AM  
An exploding supervolcano is the least of my worries when it comes to an extinction event.  We're much more likely to do it to ourselves.
 
2021-11-07 7:20:06 AM  
if yellowstone pops, hard times ahead


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2021-11-07 7:20:14 AM  

Jirafa: fuzzybacchus: "if one of these devastating events is on the way, then we need to know about it"

Why? Its not like we can do anything about it.  How about, instead, spend money on a way to prevent the eruption, rather than detecting our impending doom?  Once you have a prevention method then either work on detection or start disarming these timebombs that likely won't go off before we kill ourselves with c02, plastic, and pharmaceutical runoff in the water.

What, lance it like a giant boil and let it drain?

I'm no geologist; is that something that could theoretically work, or have real geologists already shot down the idea?


Drain where? It's not like you can toss a few cubic miles of molten lava down a sink drain, somewhere.
 
2021-11-07 7:23:34 AM  
"Toba! Toba! Toba!"

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2021-11-07 7:27:59 AM  
On the one hand it's stuff like this that makes me think the sooner we settle Mars, the sooner we drastically reduce the existential risk to humanity. On the other hand, I think we've got to clean up our shiat on Earth before going to other planets.
 
2021-11-07 7:30:18 AM  

thisispete: On the one hand it's stuff like this that makes me think the sooner we settle Mars, the sooner we drastically reduce the existential risk to humanity. On the other hand, I think we've got to clean up our shiat on Earth before going to other planets.

as if you will be involved with either..
 
2021-11-07 7:32:57 AM  
Sumatra, Indonesia? That's not close enough for those of us that deserve it!
 
2021-11-07 7:33:11 AM  

Jirafa: fuzzybacchus: "if one of these devastating events is on the way, then we need to know about it"

Why? Its not like we can do anything about it.  How about, instead, spend money on a way to prevent the eruption, rather than detecting our impending doom?  Once you have a prevention method then either work on detection or start disarming these timebombs that likely won't go off before we kill ourselves with c02, plastic, and pharmaceutical runoff in the water.

What, lance it like a giant boil and let it drain?

I'm no geologist; is that something that could theoretically work, or have real geologists already shot down the idea?


It has to be a nuclear blast, because Hollywood keeps telling me that any REAL THREAT to humanity, the answer is always nuclear.
 
2021-11-07 7:38:46 AM  

fuzzybacchus: "if one of these devastating events is on the way, then we need to know about it"

Why? Its not like we can do anything about it.  How about, instead, spend money on a way to prevent the eruption


What if we just stick a giant cork in the top and plug it once and for all?
 
2021-11-07 7:39:59 AM  

Loucifer: I have been stockpiling spam, twinkies and zirconium. Also, the kind of girls that are into them.


You have a stockpile of girls? How do you keep them fresh?
 
2021-11-07 7:40:44 AM  

ltdanman44: if yellowstone pops, hard times ahead


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I'm in western Montana, in the area most maps predict would be the border between "instant death" and "fairly quick, miserable death". I'll hope for something fast.
 
2021-11-07 7:41:43 AM  

ltdanman44: if yellowstone pops, hard times ahead


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Well I'm not in any of those states, so I don't have to worry about anything.
 
2021-11-07 7:42:12 AM  
Hopefully, subby. Hopefully.
 
2021-11-07 7:43:26 AM  
Well as far as it goes being suddenly encased in 4,400 C magma is not that bad a way to go. Beats Astroworld
 
2021-11-07 7:43:52 AM  

Harlee: Drain where? It's not like you can toss a few cubic miles of molten lava down a sink drain, somewhere.


You just have to run the hot water so it doesn't harden in your pipes. One it makes it to the street pipes, it's the city's problem. Kinda like how I handle my bacon grease.
 
2021-11-07 7:44:48 AM  
Jeezus, I hope so. I'm so farking tired.
 
2021-11-07 7:51:12 AM  

Harlee: Jirafa: fuzzybacchus: "if one of these devastating events is on the way, then we need to know about it"

Why? Its not like we can do anything about it.  How about, instead, spend money on a way to prevent the eruption, rather than detecting our impending doom?  Once you have a prevention method then either work on detection or start disarming these timebombs that likely won't go off before we kill ourselves with c02, plastic, and pharmaceutical runoff in the water.

What, lance it like a giant boil and let it drain?

I'm no geologist; is that something that could theoretically work, or have real geologists already shot down the idea?

Drain where? It's not like you can toss a few cubic miles of molten lava down a sink drain, somewhere.


Well, if you can release it over several years instead of letting it explode all at once into the stratosphere, you can avoid the really serious effects.
 
2021-11-07 7:51:26 AM  
"This is a 'vicious circle' of eruptions," says geologist Ping-Ping Liu from Peking University in China.

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2021-11-07 7:52:05 AM  
How would knowing help at all? We've known about global warming for at least 120 years, and look at all the good that's done us.

I can see it now: Scientists predict eruption of Yellowstone Supervolcano in next 5-10 years, urge funding to assist with research, moving residents from affected areas. Politicians counter with charges of trying to depopulate states for ballot-theft, claim the danger needs more study, wonder why China can't just let the steam out of their volcanoes first.
 
2021-11-07 7:55:45 AM  
Tell that to the giant meteor.

F*cking slacker.
 
2021-11-07 7:56:33 AM  
According to TFA we still have ~30,000 years or so to worry about that one.

/ Earth will eventually disinfect itself
 
2021-11-07 7:58:30 AM  
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2021-11-07 8:01:15 AM  

MythDragon: Harlee: Drain where? It's not like you can toss a few cubic miles of molten lava down a sink drain, somewhere.

You just have to run the hot water so it doesn't harden in your pipes. One it makes it to the street pipes, it's the city's problem. Kinda like how I handle my bacon grease.


You... you throw your bacon grease in the sink?
 
2021-11-07 8:03:03 AM  
I haven't followed up on my current list of existential events.  But this is what I know could kill us all before I finish typing this post.

- Asteroid impact (very unlikely as most of the real killers are already gone)
- Super volcano (pretty unlikely as most are under water, and the worst of the worst is in the past)
- Gamma ray blast.  (Highly unlikely as it's so random.)
- Solar flare and associated EMP (VERY likely.  And we'd be in real trouble of that happened).
- Climate change (this is already happening of course.  But it's not something that will kill us all.  Not any time soon)

And in every one of these cases, there is literally nothing we can do.  At all.  We couldn't even make plans because no one in the world will even do the bare minimum to prevent something.  They will wait until it's an emergency before they will finally do something.
 
2021-11-07 8:07:07 AM  

Manfred J. Hattan: MythDragon: Harlee: Drain where? It's not like you can toss a few cubic miles of molten lava down a sink drain, somewhere.

You just have to run the hot water so it doesn't harden in your pipes. One it makes it to the street pipes, it's the city's problem. Kinda like how I handle my bacon grease.

You... you throw your bacon grease in the sink?


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Bacon grease is to be stored in a jar and used by the spoonful whenever the dish needs a little.
 
2021-11-07 8:07:24 AM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: What if we drop a nuclear bomb into the mouth of every volcano?  If it works for hurricanes, it has to work for volcanos.


You're not fooling anyone, Xenu!

/ask your thetans about the last time that happened
//this is what scientologists actually believe
///is three a good reading on an E meter?
 
2021-11-07 8:08:09 AM  

Gyrfalcon: How would knowing help at all? We've known about global warming for at least 120 years, and look at all the good that's done us.

I can see it now: Scientists predict eruption of Yellowstone Supervolcano in next 5-10 years, urge funding to assist with research, moving residents from affected areas. Politicians counter with charges of trying to depopulate states for ballot-theft, claim the danger needs more study, wonder why China can't just let the steam out of their volcanoes first.


If Yellowstone actually exploded the way it did last time, moving from the general area will just mean opting for a slow death over a quick one.
Such an event would mean the end of human rule on this planet.  Half the world would be dead on the first day.  The other half would be dead soon enough.
The fiery rain of the explosion would literally set the entire world on fire.  The sun would be blotted out. The temperature would plummet.  There would be no food.

And it will take some few 10,000 years for the dust to settle, the sun to make it back through, and for life to thrive again.  Humans would likely not be part of that story.

Sleep well.
 
2021-11-07 8:09:17 AM  

MythDragon: Harlee: Drain where? It's not like you can toss a few cubic miles of molten lava down a sink drain, somewhere.

You just have to run the hot water so it doesn't harden in your pipes. One it makes it to the street pipes, it's the city's problem. Kinda like how I handle my bacon grease.


Do you want fatbergs? Because this is how you get fatbergs.
 
2021-11-07 8:20:23 AM  

MythDragon: fuzzybacchus: "if one of these devastating events is on the way, then we need to know about it"

Why? Its not like we can do anything about it.  How about, instead, spend money on a way to prevent the eruption

What if we just stick a giant cork in the top and plug it once and for all?


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2021-11-07 8:24:21 AM  

durbnpoisn: I haven't followed up on my current list of existential events.  But this is what I know could kill us all before I finish typing this post.

- Asteroid impact (very unlikely as most of the real killers are already gone)
- Super volcano (pretty unlikely as most are under water, and the worst of the worst is in the past)
- Gamma ray blast.  (Highly unlikely as it's so random.)
- Solar flare and associated EMP (VERY likely.  And we'd be in real trouble of that happened).
- Climate change (this is already happening of course.  But it's not something that will kill us all.  Not any time soon)

And in every one of these cases, there is literally nothing we can do.  At all.  We couldn't even make plans because no one in the world will even do the bare minimum to prevent something.  They will wait until it's an emergency before they will finally do something.


that's correct.  so which one do we panic over the most?  Climate change will not kill us, unless we fail to adapt to the 1" rise in ocean levels (it goes up and down) & slight average global temperature change (it goes up and down).  Easily avoided by moving further inland.  Don't live below sea level, etc. The others are not so easily avoided.  Even 1  year with higher than normal volcanic activity will drastically effect the worlds climates for a couple years. This is just one of the wild cards in the climate change argument.
 
2021-11-07 8:24:42 AM  

Jirafa: fuzzybacchus: "if one of these devastating events is on the way, then we need to know about it"

Why? Its not like we can do anything about it.  How about, instead, spend money on a way to prevent the eruption, rather than detecting our impending doom?  Once you have a prevention method then either work on detection or start disarming these timebombs that likely won't go off before we kill ourselves with c02, plastic, and pharmaceutical runoff in the water.

What, lance it like a giant boil and let it drain?

I'm no geologist; is that something that could theoretically work, or have real geologists already shot down the idea?


No. No it will not work. One study found that an eruption requires excess pressure within a magma chamber anywhere from 0.5 - 9 Mpa, and that's in addition to the mass of the rock above (lithostatic pressure). The deeper the chamber the higher the pressures, ~50 Mpa at 2 km. Even if current technology could cap a hole large enough to gradually release enough pressure to matter you're still releasing tons of CO2, SOxs, water vapor, and other greenhouse gases. And besides, one of the Kilauea lava lakes has been drilled several times and the drill holes haven't stopped the eruptions.

If anyone wants to really go full blown geodork google Dr. Robert Smith's work using seismic tomography to create 3D images of the magma chambers at Yellowstone and other hotspots. Absolutely fascinating stuff. I was lucky enough to have drinks with the guy a few years back during a function at my undergrad field station.

/Mpa = Megapascal = 1 million pascals
//1 Pascal = 1 Newton applied over 1 square meter
///1 Newton = about the amount of force needed to ring a doorbell
////*shameless plug* and my field station could always use donations
 
2021-11-07 8:25:05 AM  

Jirafa: fuzzybacchus: "if one of these devastating events is on the way, then we need to know about it"

Why? Its not like we can do anything about it.  How about, instead, spend money on a way to prevent the eruption, rather than detecting our impending doom?  Once you have a prevention method then either work on detection or start disarming these timebombs that likely won't go off before we kill ourselves with c02, plastic, and pharmaceutical runoff in the water.

What, lance it like a giant boil and let it drain?

I'm no geologist; is that something that could theoretically work, or have real geologists already shot down the idea?


It was en episode of Star Trek, so it must be possible.
 
2021-11-07 8:30:33 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: Manfred J. Hattan: MythDragon: Harlee: Drain where? It's not like you can toss a few cubic miles of molten lava down a sink drain, somewhere.

You just have to run the hot water so it doesn't harden in your pipes. One it makes it to the street pipes, it's the city's problem. Kinda like how I handle my bacon grease.

You... you throw your bacon grease in the sink?

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Bacon grease is to be stored in a jar and used by the spoonful whenever the dish needs a little.


Narrator: all dishes need a little.
 
2021-11-07 8:36:06 AM  
I'll take a supervolcano over the next 45 any day -- and twice on Sundays.  Supervolcano-Asteroid 2024.
 
2021-11-07 8:42:04 AM  

durbnpoisn: Gyrfalcon: How would knowing help at all? We've known about global warming for at least 120 years, and look at all the good that's done us.

I can see it now: Scientists predict eruption of Yellowstone Supervolcano in next 5-10 years, urge funding to assist with research, moving residents from affected areas. Politicians counter with charges of trying to depopulate states for ballot-theft, claim the danger needs more study, wonder why China can't just let the steam out of their volcanoes first.

If Yellowstone actually exploded the way it did last time, moving from the general area will just mean opting for a slow death over a quick one.
Such an event would mean the end of human rule on this planet.  Half the world would be dead on the first day.  The other half would be dead soon enough.
The fiery rain of the explosion would literally set the entire world on fire.  The sun would be blotted out. The temperature would plummet.  There would be no food.

And it will take some few 10,000 years for the dust to settle, the sun to make it back through, and for life to thrive again.  Humans would likely not be part of that story.

Sleep well.


Yellowstone erupted 640,000 years ago.

Home Sapiens are only 200,000 years old, but our ancestors have been around for 5 million.

It coincided with the quatrernary extinction, but that is more closely related to the Toba disater in Indonesia.1,000 years, not 10,000 for the global cooling it caused to reverse, and a 6 year Ice Age. It created as much extinction as the ice age ending 11,000 years ago.

But even that is debated, with new research in 2018. And Wolly Mammoths were a thing until possibly 7,000 BCE. And Humans still evolved, along with all the great apes, and pre-Sapien offshoots.

Half the life on the planet? No. Yellowstone isn't directly correlated with major era extinctions, just local and minor extinctions.
 
2021-11-07 8:42:07 AM  
I'm not a geologist but I am an engineer. I think we should cover the darn thing with geothermal energy stations. Start robbing it of heat. That would help wean us off of fossil fuels and at least delay the eruption. If we can cool it off fast enough we might even avoid it altogether.
 
2021-11-07 8:50:59 AM  
I presume 'Vulcanologist' is a paid job. Why? They can't predict anything and they can't prevent anything. Ratcatchers at least can ameliorate the situation.
 
2021-11-07 8:54:13 AM  
So-- if this were to happen, how would it impact global warming?  (probably not at all)
 
2021-11-07 8:55:28 AM  

MythDragon: Loucifer: I have been stockpiling spam, twinkies and zirconium. Also, the kind of girls that are into them.

You have a stockpile of girls? How do you keep them fresh?


Summer's Eve.
 
2021-11-07 8:58:39 AM  

Jirafa: fuzzybacchus: "if one of these devastating events is on the way, then we need to know about it"

Why? Its not like we can do anything about it.  How about, instead, spend money on a way to prevent the eruption, rather than detecting our impending doom?  Once you have a prevention method then either work on detection or start disarming these timebombs that likely won't go off before we kill ourselves with c02, plastic, and pharmaceutical runoff in the water.

What, lance it like a giant boil and let it drain?

I'm no geologist; is that something that could theoretically work, or have real geologists already shot down the idea?


I don't know, I do know fracking causes earthquakes so why not something similar here.  Point is, knowing we are all going to die doesn't seem as useful as preventing said death.
 
2021-11-07 8:59:46 AM  
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2021-11-07 9:00:45 AM  
"if one of these devastating events is on the way, then we need to know about it."

I offer a service: $21.95/month gets you on a list to get a call with a warning before it happens.  'n shiat
 
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