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(Some Guy)   Star Citizen's latest estimated release date is 2951   (twinfinite.net) divider line
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2021-11-06 3:14:28 PM  
In before the Roberts humpers!

https://clips.twitch.tv/PopularBoredPrariedogHeyGuys-KWhMYyFHvTuFNniH (NSFW Language)
 
2021-11-06 3:39:10 PM  
God, I need to get in on this grift.
 
2021-11-06 3:42:55 PM  
2951 seems too optimistic.
 
2021-11-06 3:51:31 PM  
2951After Common Era.
 
2021-11-06 3:59:33 PM  
I have not followed this all that closely but.... JFC...finish the game already.  It seems like every time I hear about it they're talking about adding all these grand new things but the game isn't done yet. Just finish it. Then add stuff.

When I first heard about it, it was like "wow, that sounds amazing" and now what, a decade later? "We're adding this and this and this" I know there are playable bits, but is it an actual full game yet?
 
2021-11-06 4:26:53 PM  
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2021-11-06 4:35:51 PM  
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2021-11-06 4:42:52 PM  

Tchernobog: I have not followed this all that closely but.... JFC...finish the game already.  It seems like every time I hear about it they're talking about adding all these grand new things but the game isn't done yet. Just finish it. Then add stuff.

When I first heard about it, it was like "wow, that sounds amazing" and now what, a decade later? "We're adding this and this and this" I know there are playable bits, but is it an actual full game yet?


The secret there is that they don't actually add stuff, just promise to add stuff.  Keeps the suckers on the hook.

Everything 'revolutionary' about this game has already been done better elsewhere at this point.
 
2021-11-06 5:11:16 PM  
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2021-11-06 5:22:25 PM  

Beta Tested: In before the Roberts humpers!

https://clips.twitch.tv/PopularBoredPrariedogHeyGuys-KWhMYyFHvTuFNniH (NSFW Language)


BUT LOOK HOW DETAILED THE SNOW IS!!!!
 
2021-11-06 5:35:56 PM  

Tchernobog: I have not followed this all that closely but.... JFC...finish the game already.  It seems like every time I hear about it they're talking about adding all these grand new things but the game isn't done yet. Just finish it. Then add stuff.

When I first heard about it, it was like "wow, that sounds amazing" and now what, a decade later? "We're adding this and this and this" I know there are playable bits, but is it an actual full game yet?


It's "Feature Creep : the game"
 
2021-11-06 5:52:01 PM  

Tchernobog: I have not followed this all that closely but.... JFC...finish the game already.  It seems like every time I hear about it they're talking about adding all these grand new things but the game isn't done yet. Just finish it. Then add stuff.

When I first heard about it, it was like "wow, that sounds amazing" and now what, a decade later? "We're adding this and this and this" I know there are playable bits, but is it an actual full game yet?


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2021-11-06 5:52:38 PM  

Tannhauser: God, I need to get in on this grift.


Honestly I don't think it's a grift but a DNF with seemingly unlimited crowdsourcing.  Nobody can tell Roberts "No" so he just keeps adding to the Tower of Babylon he's building.
 
2021-11-06 6:25:03 PM  
I'll buy it when it's done.
 
2021-11-06 6:27:24 PM  
If man is still alive
If woman can survive
 
2021-11-06 6:38:51 PM  

VisualiseThis: I'll buy it when it's done.


Me, I'm waiting for the Keanu Reeves character to be added.  Star Citizen: 2077 can't be terrible.
 
2021-11-06 7:04:22 PM  

OkieDookie: VisualiseThis: I'll buy it when it's done.

Me, I'm waiting for the Keanu Reeves character to be added.  Star Citizen: 2077 can't be terrible.


is Hamill still involved?
 
2021-11-06 7:12:08 PM  
Space Civilian has announced more things that don't exist? Gadzooks! Chris Roberts has outdone himself.

/ I've fortunately been privy to some beta testing NDA-busting info on that game in the past and I am staying far away from Space Civilian.
// Chris Roberts was NOT amused by my joke name for his vaporware but I wasn't aware he was in the Teamspeak channel at the time.
 
2021-11-06 7:15:23 PM  
I am the proud owner of several digital spaceships that cannot leave the station without exploding for no farking reason at all. It seemed like a good investment at the time.
 
2021-11-06 7:33:01 PM  
Is one of the added features the ability to buy Chris Roberts cocaine directly or do you still have to buy pixels first?
 
2021-11-06 7:36:09 PM  

khitsicker: Is one of the added features the ability to buy Chris Roberts cocaine directly or do you still have to buy pixels first?


Wait a minute.
Buying pixels.
Lots of money involved.
Online people defending it.
Probably a scam.

Is this an NFT thing?
 
2021-11-06 7:43:08 PM  

RedPhoenix122: khitsicker: Is one of the added features the ability to buy Chris Roberts cocaine directly or do you still have to buy pixels first?

Wait a minute.
Buying pixels.
Lots of money involved.
Online people defending it.
Probably a scam.

Is this an NFT thing?


That's in the next beta.
 
2021-11-06 7:44:27 PM  
This shiat is scientology for neckbeards.
 
2021-11-06 8:06:04 PM  

RedPhoenix122: khitsicker: Is one of the added features the ability to buy Chris Roberts cocaine directly or do you still have to buy pixels first?

Wait a minute.
Buying pixels.
Lots of money involved.
Online people defending it.
Probably a scam.

Is this an NFT thing?


Wait until you see the DMC class blockade runner ships.
 
2021-11-06 8:53:19 PM  

RedPhoenix122: khitsicker: Is one of the added features the ability to buy Chris Roberts cocaine directly or do you still have to buy pixels first?

Wait a minute.
Buying pixels.
Lots of money involved.
Online people defending it.
Probably a scam.

Is this an NFT thing?


It's not as bad for the environment as NFT. It's also not as functional as NFT.

The real tell take sign though, is even those deep into Star Citizen early or now, will never make a penny off it. For some reason, NFT is apparently an investment.
 
2021-11-06 9:02:49 PM  

Quantumbunny: RedPhoenix122: khitsicker: Is one of the added features the ability to buy Chris Roberts cocaine directly or do you still have to buy pixels first?

Wait a minute.
Buying pixels.
Lots of money involved.
Online people defending it.
Probably a scam.

Is this an NFT thing?

It's not as bad for the environment as NFT. It's also not as functional as NFT.

The real tell take sign though, is even those deep into Star Citizen early or now, will never make a penny off it. For some reason, NFT is apparently an investment.


From what I gather NFT is big with the cryptocrowd and collectors, so the market is vastly larger and the value is determined by it, not the CEO of a gaming company.
 
2021-11-06 9:27:32 PM  

Tannhauser: God, I need to get in on this grift.


You need to somehow work in NFTs and tungsten cubes.
 
2021-11-07 1:03:03 AM  

Flappyhead: Tannhauser: God, I need to get in on this grift.

Honestly I don't think it's a grift but a DNF with seemingly unlimited crowdsourcing.  Nobody can tell Roberts "No" so he just keeps adding to the Tower of Babylon he's building.


Duke Nukem Forever had the same problem. The guy in charged kept adding the shiny new thing to the game. Even scrapped everything and switched to a new engine a few times.
 
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2021-11-07 1:27:37 AM  
I want the game that was pitched to exist at some point but it never will.
The original Kickstarter might as well have been promising BMW's for BMX prices.
 
2021-11-07 2:08:35 AM  
A friend of mine is VERY VERY deep into SC.   Like to the tune of 36,000.   (he had an article written about him in PC gamer magazine).    I'm the one that showed SC to him, and for a while I was heavy into it as well.  I'm glad I got out, but sadly my friend is still in.  Sigh.
 
2021-11-07 3:14:34 AM  

Eravior: Flappyhead: Tannhauser: God, I need to get in on this grift.

Honestly I don't think it's a grift but a DNF with seemingly unlimited crowdsourcing.  Nobody can tell Roberts "No" so he just keeps adding to the Tower of Babylon he's building.

Duke Nukem Forever had the same problem. The guy in charged kept adding the shiny new thing to the game. Even scrapped everything and switched to a new engine a few times.


But in the end it was all worth it.

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2021-11-07 8:03:13 AM  

padraig: Eravior: Flappyhead: Tannhauser: God, I need to get in on this grift.

Honestly I don't think it's a grift but a DNF with seemingly unlimited crowdsourcing.  Nobody can tell Roberts "No" so he just keeps adding to the Tower of Babylon he's building.

Duke Nukem Forever had the same problem. The guy in charged kept adding the shiny new thing to the game. Even scrapped everything and switched to a new engine a few times.

But in the end it was all worth it.

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Sure was

/not really
//stealing a turd out of the toilet is definitely a metaphor for this entire game
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///and much like grabbing a turd and throwing it at people, it was kinda fun in a way, even though you feel a little disgusted with yourself afterwards.
 
2021-11-07 9:40:27 AM  
I believe that 2951 is a very optimistic estimate.
 
2021-11-07 9:46:43 AM  

Decados: A friend of mine is VERY VERY deep into SC.   Like to the tune of 36,000.   (he had an article written about him in PC gamer magazine).    I'm the one that showed SC to him, and for a while I was heavy into it as well.  I'm glad I got out, but sadly my friend is still in.  Sigh.


I think we had a thread about that article a couple of years ago.  Is he the German engineer who brushed off criticism by saying it wasn't an investment so people shouldn't complain?
 
2021-11-07 11:55:33 AM  

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I backed this as a long time Wing Commander fan, but yeah, the years of watching constant fluff and feature creep has annoyed the shiat out of me.

Squadron 42 with the actual single player campaign (including Hamill) has all but disappeared from their updates, and was completely ignored.

It's just about grinding out new ship skins to sell for RL money. There are better completed games out there to enjoy in the meantime.
 
2021-11-07 1:12:32 PM  

houstondragon: Squadron 42 with the actual single player campaign (including Hamill) has all but disappeared from their updates, and was completely ignored.

It's just about grinding out new ship skins to sell for RL money. There are better completed games out there to enjoy in the meantime.


First, SQ42 is being worked on and there are regular updates every month. However, since both Squadron and Star Citizen are built in parallel, the progress made in Squadron is translated to SC and vice versa.

And secondly, they put out quarterly updates that include actual gameplay improvements and continue to build out the alpha. So it's not "all about selling ship skins"

But yes, it's an alpha that's in open development. By all means, play something else if you don't want to wait. No one is compelling you to play SC while it's being built.
 
2021-11-07 3:30:41 PM  
At what point do folks say "... OK, you've had enough money. Hard release date, or we walk."
 
2021-11-07 4:37:10 PM  
I bought this years back and played it for approximately ten minutes. At that point all you could do was run around on a space station and maybe a port on a planet. Is there anything in it now worth checking back in for?
 
2021-11-07 5:22:29 PM  

cptrios: I bought this years back and played it for approximately ten minutes. At that point all you could do was run around on a space station and maybe a port on a planet. Is there anything in it now worth checking back in for?


I give it a run through about once a year.  You're not missing much except frustration at all the bugs and half-baked design ideas.
 
2021-11-07 7:44:49 PM  

cptrios: I bought this years back and played it for approximately ten minutes. At that point all you could do was run around on a space station and maybe a port on a planet. Is there anything in it now worth checking back in for?


if your computer can handle it (SSD and 16-32GB RAM required), you can do quite a bit. Far more than what you previously did. There's an entire star system tor travel around, do missions, go mine, cargo runs (in the new patch, 3.15, there's a disconnect recovery for server crashes, so you won't lose your cargo if you experience a disconnection while in flight), shop, buy/rent new ships in-game, bounty hunt, package runs.

There's a lot you can do already in game and the stability improves each patch. Experiences with bugs are also different for everyone. Lord Bearmay have a terrible time with bugs, but I've experienced game-breaking bugs once in awhile. Plus, again, some patches are more stable than others, especially the patches that add in a lot of new mechanics or revamp some underlying stuff, they tend to be more prone to random glitches/crashes.

It's an alpha, it's not going to be optimized until it goes to beta. That said, they still try to fix as many game-breaking bugs every patch so that the alpha is playable, because they need the feedback from players to better refine the game going forward.

Also, if you'd like a guide to help you out, I'd be more than happy to show you around and let you check out a bunch of ships while you're at it (playing with others is infinitely better than solo most of the time, especially if you find the right crew)
 
2021-11-07 7:49:15 PM  

FormlessOne: At what point do folks say "... OK, you've had enough money. Hard release date, or we walk."


I mean, it's crowdfunded. Good luck getting all backers to agree on one stance one way or another.

You have the power to pull your money or stop pledging if you feel they've had enough. That's entirely your prerogative. Others will continue to pledge because they see the progress made and want to see the game come out as concepted.
 
2021-11-07 7:58:19 PM  

Lord Bear: cptrios: I bought this years back and played it for approximately ten minutes. At that point all you could do was run around on a space station and maybe a port on a planet. Is there anything in it now worth checking back in for?

I give it a run through about once a year.  You're not missing much except frustration at all the bugs and half-baked design ideas.


They are never going to release an actual game or move out of alpha.
They have to many suckers hooked and spending money.
Because they spent so much money, they delude themselves into thinking it's great.
They even try to sucker more people into their delusion.
Much like religion.
Just look at the farker who jumps into every thread about it and defends it.
 
2021-11-07 8:01:47 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: Just look at the farker who jumps into every thread about it and defends it.


only because folks like you like to spread disinformation about it.
 
2021-11-07 8:04:07 PM  
I bought a cheap 65$ ship package in early 2013 thinking this is gonna be great. 8 years later I'm reading about the steam effect visual off a cup of coffee. Im doubtful I'll ever be able to afford a computer powerful enough to play it if it ever goes gold.
 
2021-11-07 8:06:10 PM  

fotodork: Im doubtful I'll ever be able to afford a computer powerful enough to play it if it ever goes gold.


if you have an SSD and 16-32GBs of ram, you've got like 90% of your performance covered. If your rig can game pretty well in most any other demanding game, you'll be fine.
 
2021-11-07 8:45:42 PM  

somedude210: fotodork: Im doubtful I'll ever be able to afford a computer powerful enough to play it if it ever goes gold.

if you have an SSD and 16-32GBs of ram, you've got like 90% of your performance covered. If your rig can game pretty well in most any other demanding game, you'll be fine.


It is so badly slapped together that a 10 year old alpha needs that to run?

The most heavily crowdfunded game in history needs to keep raising more money. Despite being one of the biggest budget games ever. And has taken 10 years to not even reach the original Kickstarter goals.
 
2021-11-07 8:46:38 PM  

somedude210: fotodork: Im doubtful I'll ever be able to afford a computer powerful enough to play it if it ever goes gold.

if you have an SSD and 16-32GBs of ram, you've got like 90% of your performance covered. If your rig can game pretty well in most any other demanding game, you'll be fine.


A game designed ten years ago should not require an SSD and 32 GB RAM. It should also not still be in Alpha.
 
2021-11-07 9:02:39 PM  

Discordulator: It is so badly slapped together that a 10 year old alpha needs that to run?


I'm sorry, do you think that it's just 10 year old assets and shiat? Do you understand that they're literally continuing to build it out as they add new shiat?

Discordulator: The most heavily crowdfunded game in history needs to keep raising more money. Despite being one of the biggest budget games ever. And has taken 10 years to not even reach the original Kickstarter goals.


? So...they shouldn't be raising funds to continue to pay the people to develop the game because reasons? I'm sorry, are you an idiot?

TheReject: game designed ten years ago should not require an SSD and 32 GB RAM.


it was pitched 9 years ago. It wasn't designed, coded, built, and released 10 years ago. They are constantly updating things as they build the game to keep up with technology. As it is, they're converting over to the Vulkan API, which should, among other things, enable raytracing and generally improve performance by enabling parallel GPU processing so you don't have shiat bottlenecked on the CPU.

TheReject: It should also not still be in Alpha.


Why? Why should it not still be in alpha?

You and Discordulator seem to be suffering from the fallacy that because we can see the game being made, it automatically means that it should be done in a ridiculously short amount of time because we're programmed to not even know of a game's existence until it's in beta and the publisher drops a teaser trailer for it or announces it at E3.

Star Citizen/Squadron 42 is in an open development, with a playable alpha. The playable alpha makes the development time take longer because not only do they need to develop the game, but they also need to make it playable to a wide-ranging audience of players, not just an internal dev team like every other game out there.
 
2021-11-07 9:09:40 PM  

fotodork: I bought a cheap 65$ ship package in early 2013 thinking this is gonna be great. 8 years later I'm reading about the steam effect visual off a cup of coffee. Im doubtful I'll ever be able to afford a computer powerful enough to play it if it ever goes gold.


This is the one credit I will give the dev team, is that it does run quite a bit better than a few years ago.  My last playthrough was on a 1060 and it got a reasonable frame rate.  It wasn't fun in any way, had gameplay shallower than a kiddie pool, and horribly boring time sinks, but it mostly looked ok at a reasonable framerate.

Then again, so does any game with 1/10th of its budget, so that's not saying much.
 
2021-11-07 9:56:45 PM  

somedude210: Discordulator: It is so badly slapped together that a 10 year old alpha needs that to run?

I'm sorry, do you think that it's just 10 year old assets and shiat? Do you understand that they're literally continuing to build it out as they add new shiat?

Discordulator: The most heavily crowdfunded game in history needs to keep raising more money. Despite being one of the biggest budget games ever. And has taken 10 years to not even reach the original Kickstarter goals.

? So...they shouldn't be raising funds to continue to pay the people to develop the game because reasons? I'm sorry, are you an idiot?

TheReject: game designed ten years ago should not require an SSD and 32 GB RAM.

it was pitched 9 years ago. It wasn't designed, coded, built, and released 10 years ago. They are constantly updating things as they build the game to keep up with technology. As it is, they're converting over to the Vulkan API, which should, among other things, enable raytracing and generally improve performance by enabling parallel GPU processing so you don't have shiat bottlenecked on the CPU.

TheReject: It should also not still be in Alpha.

Why? Why should it not still be in alpha?

You and Discordulator seem to be suffering from the fallacy that because we can see the game being made, it automatically means that it should be done in a ridiculously short amount of time because we're programmed to not even know of a game's existence until it's in beta and the publisher drops a teaser trailer for it or announces it at E3.

Star Citizen/Squadron 42 is in an open development, with a playable alpha. The playable alpha makes the development time take longer because not only do they need to develop the game, but they also need to make it playable to a wide-ranging audience of players, not just an internal dev team like every other game out there.


1. Production started on Star Citizen in 2011. This being 2021, 10 years later, puts it tied for position 5 for the longest production times for a video game. No one claimed to expect a rediculously short development time, other than you.

2. Further fundraising isn't a problem. Mismanagement of funds already raised clearly is, when they can't even meet basic promised goals on what is now (even after adjusting for inflation) the largest budget game in history.

A small budget can dramatically extend development time, as a small crew on a long haul can be preferable to a large crew on a short haul. This builds depth of knowledge rather than breadth.

3. The switching to Vulkan, among other things, reminds me a LOT of Duke Nukem Forever. Or Daikatana. Oh, look. System requirements jumped up. Again. Oh, look. We have taken so long in development that the technology has had a generational advance. Again.

Look at 1 and 2 together. Moving towards the longest development cycle records (10 years and in alpha) combined with massive funding, and still going for more money.

The game isn't promising anything revolutionary. Or offering anything particularly special. It is also not delivering anywhere near the dollar worth in anything near a reasonable time frame. Just look at how the road map has been a cluster fark.

This says, to me, a combination of mismanagement, grifting, and wishful thinking.

People can and will get their money's worth from the Alpha. At this point, though, I recommend people treat Star Citizen like any other early access title.

Buy in only if you like where it is now, because the developers have demonstrated they do not have a good track record for meeting goals or expectations.
 
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