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(CNN)   Democrats won the governor's race in New Jersey and Republicans won the governor's race in Virginia, yet the media coverage has created narrative that the results were a disaster for Democrats. Starting to think the media may not have a liberal bias   (cnn.com) divider line
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2021-11-04 8:33:15 AM  
Anytime any democrat anywhere makes any progress, some allegedly smart person claiming to be a liberal shows up to tell us all how we're wrong, the Democratic party actually lost, and it's pointless to fight back against the GOP.
I expect the same thing to happen here in this "discussion" thread.
 
2021-11-04 8:39:36 AM  
It's almost as if *every* major media outlet is owned by a giant corporation controlled by rich Republicans, and the myth of the liberal media is centered around the fact more field reporters and crews are paid so shiattily they can't afford Hamburger to go with the Helper.
 
2021-11-04 8:41:57 AM  
American commercial media is a steaming cesspool, with a touch of arsenic and anthrax thrown in for good measure.  Pure poison.
 
2021-11-04 8:47:11 AM  

Weaver95: I expect the same thing to happen here in this "discussion" thread.


Speaking of degenerating, how is your thing doing?  My thing has forced me to stop eating mammals completely.  It's really annoying.  I miss heavy cream.  And bacon.  And steak.  And pork roast.  *sigh*
 
2021-11-04 8:49:57 AM  
Republicans and "moderates" are more likely to vote in off year elections. It is known. If you don't flood the voting booth with your voters and convince the moderates that it is in their interest, you don't get them.

The GOP knows how to highlight hot button issues and make them the cornerstone of the election. You have to smash those attacks in order to beat them.


These are lessons those Lincoln Republicans or whatever the f*ck those whackos are were trying to tell you in order to beat Trump. You have to play hardball on the same level the GOP does. You need to find hot button issues that those same voters care about and win the messaging If you war.

If you don't learn how to do that you are going to be destroyed in 2022 and we'll have Obama V2.0 2010... "elections have consequences" all that fun stuff. We'll all suffer.

I have no faith in the Democrats holding power in 2022 because they just don't know how to win these races without someone like Trump to run against.

The only hope I have is that Trump announces he will run BEFORE those elections, but I think the GOP will hold him back before then and he'll announce AFTER they take Congress.
 
2021-11-04 8:53:22 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Republicans and "moderates" are more likely to vote in off year elections. It is known. If you don't flood the voting booth with your voters and convince the moderates that it is in their interest, you don't get them.

The GOP knows how to highlight hot button issues and make them the cornerstone of the election. You have to smash those attacks in order to beat them.


These are lessons those Lincoln Republicans or whatever the f*ck those whackos are were trying to tell you in order to beat Trump. You have to play hardball on the same level the GOP does. You need to find hot button issues that those same voters care about and win the messaging If you war.

If you don't learn how to do that you are going to be destroyed in 2022 and we'll have Obama V2.0 2010... "elections have consequences" all that fun stuff. We'll all suffer.

I have no faith in the Democrats holding power in 2022 because they just don't know how to win these races without someone like Trump to run against.

The only hope I have is that Trump announces he will run BEFORE those elections, but I think the GOP will hold him back before then and he'll announce AFTER they take Congress.


I think we need a no-holds-barred Howard Dean-esque leader of the DNC who will go for the throat.
 
2021-11-04 8:55:11 AM  
NJ is a pretty solid blue state.
Virginia is purple.

There's a reason the latter is covered more; it's a bellwether for the nation as a whole.
 
2021-11-04 8:55:24 AM  
The media love the Republicans because the bizarre shiz they say and do are great for ratings/clicks, as Les Moonves straight up said.

The DNC loves it when the GOP wins because they can do a lot of fundraising and they have a lot of friends/relatives who make great "consultants".
 
2021-11-04 8:55:59 AM  

Shaggy_C: NJ is a pretty solid blue state.
Virginia is purple.

There's a reason the latter is covered more; it's a bellwether for the nation as a whole.


Yes, the capitol of the Confederacy surely is a bellwether. (Eyeroll)
 
2021-11-04 8:56:33 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Republicans and "moderates" are more likely to vote in off year elections. It is known. If you don't flood the voting booth with your voters and convince the moderates that it is in their interest, you don't get them.

The GOP knows how to highlight hot button issues and make them the cornerstone of the election. You have to smash those attacks in order to beat them.


These are lessons those Lincoln Republicans or whatever the f*ck those whackos are were trying to tell you in order to beat Trump. You have to play hardball on the same level the GOP does. You need to find hot button issues that those same voters care about and win the messaging If you war.

If you don't learn how to do that you are going to be destroyed in 2022 and we'll have Obama V2.0 2010... "elections have consequences" all that fun stuff. We'll all suffer.

I have no faith in the Democrats holding power in 2022 because they just don't know how to win these races without someone like Trump to run against.

The only hope I have is that Trump announces he will run BEFORE those elections, but I think the GOP will hold him back before then and he'll announce AFTER they take Congress.


"I have no faith in the Democrats holding power in 2022 because they just don't know how to win these races without someone like Trump to run against."

1. If you lack faith it should be almost entirely due to the fact that parties in power almost always lose seats in midterms
2. I'll eat my hat if they don't run against trumpism (aka trump) in 2022
 
2021-11-04 8:57:15 AM  
So in a State that Biden won by 16%, his party won by 1 or 2 % and this is a sign of good news for Dems?

Sounds a bit like Hillary in the fall of 2016.
 
2021-11-04 8:57:20 AM  

usahole: NewportBarGuy: Republicans and "moderates" are more likely to vote in off year elections. It is known. If you don't flood the voting booth with your voters and convince the moderates that it is in their interest, you don't get them.

The GOP knows how to highlight hot button issues and make them the cornerstone of the election. You have to smash those attacks in order to beat them.


These are lessons those Lincoln Republicans or whatever the f*ck those whackos are were trying to tell you in order to beat Trump. You have to play hardball on the same level the GOP does. You need to find hot button issues that those same voters care about and win the messaging If you war.

If you don't learn how to do that you are going to be destroyed in 2022 and we'll have Obama V2.0 2010... "elections have consequences" all that fun stuff. We'll all suffer.

I have no faith in the Democrats holding power in 2022 because they just don't know how to win these races without someone like Trump to run against.

The only hope I have is that Trump announces he will run BEFORE those elections, but I think the GOP will hold him back before then and he'll announce AFTER they take Congress.

I think we need a no-holds-barred Howard Dean-esque leader of the DNC who will go for the throat.


Absolutely. We need a candidate in every single race, every single election, with a clear message that has zero to do with Republicans and is very clearly stated as "this is what we're doing, and nothing else gets done until we get it."

And if we lose in '22, we bring the Senate to a dead stop. Nothing makes it to a floor vote. Not the debt ceiling, not national security, not the budget, not a farking resolution to name a post office. It all stops.
 
2021-11-04 8:57:40 AM  

TelemonianAjax: Yes, the capitol of the Confederacy surely is a bellwether. (Eyeroll)


So it's a solid-red Deep South state then? Or did you intentionally miss the point entirely?
 
2021-11-04 8:57:47 AM  

Weaver95: Anytime any democrat anywhere makes any progress, some allegedly smart person claiming to be a liberal shows up to tell us all how we're wrong, the Democratic party actually lost, and it's pointless to fight back against the GOP.
I expect the same thing to happen here in this "discussion" thread.


Weren't you calling for armed justice yesterday?
 
2021-11-04 8:57:49 AM  

Weaver95: Anytime any democrat anywhere makes any progress, some allegedly smart person claiming to be a liberal shows up to tell us all how we're wrong, the Democratic party actually lost, and it's pointless to fight back against the GOP.
I expect the same thing to happen here in this "discussion" thread.


It's not that it's pointless - but that it's an issue that should be addressed.

As a long-time Virginia resident, I can tell you that Virginia was NOT hard blue before this.  But it wasn't true purple, either.  2009 was the last time a Republican won at the state level.  And the Republican won it by making inroads in the suburbs - the place that had been the source of Democratic gains.  So, yes, I'm worried.  After 10+ years of improvements, we almost certainly lost the state House.  In 2023, we have a 2 seat majority in the state Senate.  Not at all crazy to think that if issues aren't addressed, that the Republicans hold their House majority and could at least flip 2 Senate seats.  Then, they enact "voter" reform in early 2024.  Amongst other backslides.

So, while I'm definitely cautiously nervous about to what extent this foretells anything at the national level, I'm far more concerned about what it means for Virginia.  Because this was a big loss.
 
2021-11-04 8:58:26 AM  
"Those grapes were probably sour anyways!"
 
2021-11-04 8:58:54 AM  

Shaggy_C: NJ is a pretty solid blue state.
Virginia is purple.

There's a reason the latter is covered more; it's a bellwether for the nation as a whole.


NJ has never been a solid blue state in local elections. It's always been flip flopped between D and R governors, and a D hasn't won reelection since 1978, almost 50 years ago. It's a much bigger deal than Virginia, which has always been purple-ish.
 
2021-11-04 8:59:40 AM  

Weaver95: Anytime any democrat anywhere makes any progress, some allegedly smart person claiming to be a liberal shows up to tell us all how we're wrong, the Democratic party actually lost, and it's pointless to fight back against the GOP.
I expect the same thing to happen here in this "discussion" thread.


Depends, do the Democrats control 2/3rds of the government in NJ, but somehow still can't manage to pass any useful legislation?
 
2021-11-04 8:59:51 AM  
The results were [not] a disaster for democrats?
 
2021-11-04 9:00:43 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Weaver95: Anytime any democrat anywhere makes any progress, some allegedly smart person claiming to be a liberal shows up to tell us all how we're wrong, the Democratic party actually lost, and it's pointless to fight back against the GOP.
I expect the same thing to happen here in this "discussion" thread.

Depends, do the Democrats control 2/3rds of the government in NJ, but somehow still can't manage to pass any useful legislation?


Yes, but that's just an NJ thing. We're used to it, and prefer it that way, because when things do get passed, it's usually property tax increases.
 
2021-11-04 9:01:02 AM  
Eightballjacket: So in a State that Biden won by 16%, his party won by 1 or 2 % and this is a sign of good news for Dems?

Sounds a bit like Hillary in the fall of 2016.


How badly is Critical Race Theory being played in New Jersey?
 
2021-11-04 9:01:08 AM  
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2021-11-04 9:01:31 AM  

Lusiphur: usahole: NewportBarGuy: Republicans and "moderates" are more likely to vote in off year elections. It is known. If you don't flood the voting booth with your voters and convince the moderates that it is in their interest, you don't get them.

The GOP knows how to highlight hot button issues and make them the cornerstone of the election. You have to smash those attacks in order to beat them.


These are lessons those Lincoln Republicans or whatever the f*ck those whackos are were trying to tell you in order to beat Trump. You have to play hardball on the same level the GOP does. You need to find hot button issues that those same voters care about and win the messaging If you war.

If you don't learn how to do that you are going to be destroyed in 2022 and we'll have Obama V2.0 2010... "elections have consequences" all that fun stuff. We'll all suffer.

I have no faith in the Democrats holding power in 2022 because they just don't know how to win these races without someone like Trump to run against.

The only hope I have is that Trump announces he will run BEFORE those elections, but I think the GOP will hold him back before then and he'll announce AFTER they take Congress.

I think we need a no-holds-barred Howard Dean-esque leader of the DNC who will go for the throat.

Absolutely. We need a candidate in every single race, every single election, with a clear message that has zero to do with Republicans and is very clearly stated as "this is what we're doing, and nothing else gets done until we get it."

And if we lose in '22, we bring the Senate to a dead stop. Nothing makes it to a floor vote. Not the debt ceiling, not national security, not the budget, not a farking resolution to name a post office. It all stops.


lol

And you believe this will accomplish what, exactly?
 
2021-11-04 9:02:31 AM  
John Stewart once said that our media is like a kid soccer team and the headlines are like the ball.  They just clump up on the headline and start aimlessly kicking.
 
2021-11-04 9:02:55 AM  

usahole: NewportBarGuy: Republicans and "moderates" are more likely to vote in off year elections. It is known. If you don't flood the voting booth with your voters and convince the moderates that it is in their interest, you don't get them.

The GOP knows how to highlight hot button issues and make them the cornerstone of the election. You have to smash those attacks in order to beat them.


These are lessons those Lincoln Republicans or whatever the f*ck those whackos are were trying to tell you in order to beat Trump. You have to play hardball on the same level the GOP does. You need to find hot button issues that those same voters care about and win the messaging If you war.

If you don't learn how to do that you are going to be destroyed in 2022 and we'll have Obama V2.0 2010... "elections have consequences" all that fun stuff. We'll all suffer.

I have no faith in the Democrats holding power in 2022 because they just don't know how to win these races without someone like Trump to run against.

The only hope I have is that Trump announces he will run BEFORE those elections, but I think the GOP will hold him back before then and he'll announce AFTER they take Congress.

I think we need a no-holds-barred Howard Dean-esque leader of the DNC who will go for the throat.


You mean Debbie Wasserman Schultz was a failure who was only kept on because of loyalty for Clinton?? I am SHOCKED!!!
 
2021-11-04 9:02:59 AM  
Or maybe corporate medias goal is to gin up fear because it sells.
 
2021-11-04 9:03:58 AM  
Chicken Noodle News:  Well, let's try to keep things objective.  You can do your own take if you express it as such and-

Fox News:  Disregard vaccines; be more like Joe Rogan.  Tonight's Republican on the soapbox is-


There's a bit of a tilt going.
 
2021-11-04 9:05:05 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Republicans and "moderates" are more likely to vote in off year elections. It is known. If you don't flood the voting booth with your voters and convince the moderates that it is in their interest, you don't get them.

The GOP knows how to highlight hot button issues and make them the cornerstone of the election. You have to smash those attacks in order to beat them.


These are lessons those Lincoln Republicans or whatever the f*ck those whackos are were trying to tell you in order to beat Trump. You have to play hardball on the same level the GOP does. You need to find hot button issues that those same voters care about and win the messaging If you war.

If you don't learn how to do that you are going to be destroyed in 2022 and we'll have Obama V2.0 2010... "elections have consequences" all that fun stuff. We'll all suffer.

I have no faith in the Democrats holding power in 2022 because they just don't know how to win these races without someone like Trump to run against.

The only hope I have is that Trump announces he will run BEFORE those elections, but I think the GOP will hold him back before then and he'll announce AFTER they take Congress.


....

its difficult honestly to be optimistic about the future fo the republic.

i'm sorry to godwin the thread, but i keep seeing similarities between the Nazis and the US Nationalists/new republicans rise to power.

it feels like Trump's term, culminating in Jan6's riot, was the equivalent of the beer hall putsch. It was clumsy, boorish, went off half cocked and didnt work.

The nazis they went back to the drawing board, learned from their mistakes, and got it right in w hitler into the Chancellory in the 30s.

We're seeing the American Fascists/Nationalists applying the learnings and doing the same sort of thing:

1. Get red states that went for Biden to change vote certification process so that state legislatures certify and not independent election boards or Lt. governors, etc (Arizona and Georgia have already done this)
2) Republicans win the house in mid term election.  That will happen with certainty 
3) Re-run trump for pres
4) Red states that vote for Biden or blue that have legislatures certify the vote, don't do it.  These legislatures send shadow delegates to the electoral college
5) with uncertainty in the electoral college, the VP can't certify the vote (this is what Jan 6 was all about...but then there was no real uncertainty).  This is the questionalble part...what would Harris do?
6) if VP can't certify the electoral college, them it goes to the House...which will be republican when it flips in 2022....

.... "and hitler takes the chancellory"

Biden pelosi etc are too old and weak to hold them off forever and the oldies refuse to get out of the way and let the vigor into the senate. GTFO Feinstein and the rest, you people are as dangerous to the republic at this point thru your inactivity and senility as boebert is with her motivated derpy fascism.

The Right is rich, and motivated and being more strategic, and the democrats are old and barely competent and will be out flanked.

The US is well and truly farked.
 
2021-11-04 9:05:29 AM  
It has a corporate bias.
 
2021-11-04 9:05:40 AM  

Eightballjacket: So in a State that Biden won by 16%, his party won by 1 or 2 % and this is a sign of good news for Dems?

Sounds a bit like Hillary in the fall of 2016.


True, but on the other hand it is the first time in 40 years that an incumbent gov of the same party as the president won reelection in NJ.
 
2021-11-04 9:05:58 AM  
What I'm hearing is both sides are bad so I should vote Republican.
 
2021-11-04 9:06:14 AM  

Charletron: 1. If you lack faith it should be almost entirely due to the fact that parties in power almost always lose seats in midterms


I've been around long enough to know this. I know this, we all know this. Anyone who follows politics knows this.

But, that doesn't mean we should sit back and not fight for it. Even if the Dems do everything I want them to do in order to get out the vote and pick strong candidates, it's going to be an incredibly tough fight just to KEEP what they have, forget adding to it.

They have to earn my faith by doing a better job. I lived through them abandoning Obama and all they worked on by cowering to the Tea Party rather than fighting back and they got their f*cking asses kicked by the dumbest people alive.

I want them to fight.
 
2021-11-04 9:06:54 AM  

skipping non-voting comment in contest thread: [Fark user image image 640x1138]


Certainly the people that vote Republican are. Or at least being racist isn't a deal-breaker for them.
 
2021-11-04 9:06:57 AM  
"Republicans sweep Tuesday! What this means for Biden"
 
2021-11-04 9:07:06 AM  
Right now....this is the CNN Big Interview headline

Write-In Candidate Declares Victory Over Socialist in Buffalo Mayoral Contest

Yeah...the DEMOCRAT lost to the incumbent she defeated in the primary...but sure...lets hit up "SOCIALIST!"


fark the media and its bullshiat narrative"

(That said...the Democratic candidate was the only one on the ballot and STILL lost. Seriously...WTF is up with Democrats)
 
2021-11-04 9:07:24 AM  

NewportBarGuy: The GOP knows how to highlight hot button issues and make them the cornerstone of the election. You have to smash those attacks in order to beat them.


And thanks to the braindead FEC, we get to have all contested states flooded with foreign-paid "ballot initiatives" in 2022 that will drive GOP to the polls.
 
2021-11-04 9:07:38 AM  
Murphy polling eight percent better than the actual results is NOT a problem for the Dems?  Get a clue, Subby.

Not that the media isn't farking this up. But it's not by saying this was a serious sign that the Republicans are still a serious threat. It's in acting like being Centrist is the way out.  CNN is riding that bus until it explodes. So your headline is half correct.
 
2021-11-04 9:08:08 AM  

Weaver95: Anytime any democrat anywhere makes any progress, some allegedly smart person claiming to be a liberal shows up to tell us all how we're wrong, the Democratic party actually lost, and it's pointless to fight back against the GOP.
I expect the same thing to happen here in this "discussion" thread.


Yep.  It took me a while to realize that 2020 was an excellent election, because the media was way too focused on making it look like it was extremely close, like a week later and it was still up in the air and the final vote tallies could give victory to Tiny Dick Daughterfarker.  The media hates to admit that Democrats win, and hates to admit that Democrats can win overwhelmingly.  Except sometimes local news, like in New Mexico where the Democrats won the mayoral races for Albuquerque and Santa Fe with the majority of votes, to avoid run-offs.
 
2021-11-04 9:08:22 AM  

cocozilla: Right now....this is the CNN Big Interview headline

Write-In Candidate Declares Victory Over Socialist in Buffalo Mayoral Contest

Yeah...the DEMOCRAT lost to the incumbent she defeated in the primary...but sure...lets hit up "SOCIALIST!"


fark the media and its bullshiat narrative"

(That said...the Democratic candidate was the only one on the ballot and STILL lost. Seriously...WTF is up with Democrats)


Did the Republican win the race in Buffalo?
 
2021-11-04 9:08:27 AM  

Father_Jack: NewportBarGuy: Republicans and "moderates" are more likely to vote in off year elections. It is known. If you don't flood the voting booth with your voters and convince the moderates that it is in their interest, you don't get them.

The GOP knows how to highlight hot button issues and make them the cornerstone of the election. You have to smash those attacks in order to beat them.


These are lessons those Lincoln Republicans or whatever the f*ck those whackos are were trying to tell you in order to beat Trump. You have to play hardball on the same level the GOP does. You need to find hot button issues that those same voters care about and win the messaging If you war.

If you don't learn how to do that you are going to be destroyed in 2022 and we'll have Obama V2.0 2010... "elections have consequences" all that fun stuff. We'll all suffer.

I have no faith in the Democrats holding power in 2022 because they just don't know how to win these races without someone like Trump to run against.

The only hope I have is that Trump announces he will run BEFORE those elections, but I think the GOP will hold him back before then and he'll announce AFTER they take Congress.

....

its difficult honestly to be optimistic about the future fo the republic.

i'm sorry to godwin the thread, but i keep seeing similarities between the Nazis and the US Nationalists/new republicans rise to power.

it feels like Trump's term, culminating in Jan6's riot, was the equivalent of the beer hall putsch. It was clumsy, boorish, went off half cocked and didnt work.

The nazis they went back to the drawing board, learned from their mistakes, and got it right in w hitler into the Chancellory in the 30s.

We're seeing the American Fascists/Nationalists applying the learnings and doing the same sort of thing:

1. Get red states that went for Biden to change vote certification process so that state legislatures certify and not independent election boards or Lt. governors, etc (Arizona and Georgia ha ...


Yeah...anyone with any knowledge of history is horrified right now.
 
2021-11-04 9:08:54 AM  
Does Subby not understand the idea of partisan lean?  If Democrats had won in Florida and almost won in Texas, that would be a disaster for Republicans.
 
2021-11-04 9:09:08 AM  

cocozilla: Right now....this is the CNN Big Interview headline

Write-In Candidate Declares Victory Over Socialist in Buffalo Mayoral Contest

Yeah...the DEMOCRAT lost to the incumbent she defeated in the primary...but sure...lets hit up "SOCIALIST!"


fark the media and its bullshiat narrative"

(That said...the Democratic candidate was the only one on the ballot and STILL lost. Seriously...WTF is up with Democrats)


The write-in candidate was also a Democrat, he just lost the primary and insisted on still running.
 
2021-11-04 9:09:14 AM  

Kris_Romm: Murphy polling eight percent better than the actual results is NOT a problem for the Dems?  Get a clue, Subby.

Not that the media isn't farking this up. But it's not by saying this was a serious sign that the Republicans are still a serious threat. It's in acting like being Centrist is the way out.  CNN is riding that bus until it explodes. So your headline is half correct.


Why are inaccurate polls a problem for the Democrats?
 
2021-11-04 9:09:16 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: skipping non-voting comment in contest thread: [Fark user image image 640x1138]

Certainly the people that vote Republican are. Or at least being racist isn't a deal-breaker for them.


See? Like this one right here
 
2021-11-04 9:09:34 AM  

Charletron: NewportBarGuy: Republicans and "moderates" are more likely to vote in off year elections. It is known. If you don't flood the voting booth with your voters and convince the moderates that it is in their interest, you don't get them.

The GOP knows how to highlight hot button issues and make them the cornerstone of the election. You have to smash those attacks in order to beat them.


These are lessons those Lincoln Republicans or whatever the f*ck those whackos are were trying to tell you in order to beat Trump. You have to play hardball on the same level the GOP does. You need to find hot button issues that those same voters care about and win the messaging If you war.

If you don't learn how to do that you are going to be destroyed in 2022 and we'll have Obama V2.0 2010... "elections have consequences" all that fun stuff. We'll all suffer.

I have no faith in the Democrats holding power in 2022 because they just don't know how to win these races without someone like Trump to run against.

The only hope I have is that Trump announces he will run BEFORE those elections, but I think the GOP will hold him back before then and he'll announce AFTER they take Congress.

"I have no faith in the Democrats holding power in 2022 because they just don't know how to win these races without someone like Trump to run against."

1. If you lack faith it should be almost entirely due to the fact that parties in power almost always lose seats in midterms
2. I'll eat my hat if they don't run against trumpism (aka trump) in 2022


1a) and since Biden had no coattails*, Democrats didn't create a big enough buffer to not have the House flip in 2022.

*He actually had negative coattails, which is a hell of an achievement.
 
2021-11-04 9:10:37 AM  

cocozilla: Right now....this is the CNN Big Interview headline

Write-In Candidate Declares Victory Over Socialist in Buffalo Mayoral Contest

Yeah...the DEMOCRAT lost to the incumbent she defeated in the primary...but sure...lets hit up "SOCIALIST!"


fark the media and its bullshiat narrative"

(That said...the Democratic candidate was the only one on the ballot and STILL lost. Seriously...WTF is up with Democrats)


The "Socialist" supposedly had the backing and funding of the national party, yet the write-in Democrat won.
 
2021-11-04 9:11:22 AM  

qorkfiend: cocozilla: Right now....this is the CNN Big Interview headline

Write-In Candidate Declares Victory Over Socialist in Buffalo Mayoral Contest

Yeah...the DEMOCRAT lost to the incumbent she defeated in the primary...but sure...lets hit up "SOCIALIST!"


fark the media and its bullshiat narrative"

(That said...the Democratic candidate was the only one on the ballot and STILL lost. Seriously...WTF is up with Democrats)

Did the Republican win the race in Buffalo?


no. The loser of the Dem primary did.
 
2021-11-04 9:11:24 AM  

American-Irish eyes: The results were [not] a disaster for democrats?


Turnout was low for democrats and high for republicans...the same bullshiat that KEEPS HAPPENING BECAUSE DEMOCRATS DON'T VOTE!
 
2021-11-04 9:12:20 AM  

cocozilla: Father_Jack: NewportBarGuy: Republicans and "moderates" are more likely to vote in off year elections. It is known. If you don't flood the voting booth with your voters and convince the moderates that it is in their interest, you don't get them.

The GOP knows how to highlight hot button issues and make them the cornerstone of the election. You have to smash those attacks in order to beat them.


These are lessons those Lincoln Republicans or whatever the f*ck those whackos are were trying to tell you in order to beat Trump. You have to play hardball on the same level the GOP does. You need to find hot button issues that those same voters care about and win the messaging If you war.

If you don't learn how to do that you are going to be destroyed in 2022 and we'll have Obama V2.0 2010... "elections have consequences" all that fun stuff. We'll all suffer.

I have no faith in the Democrats holding power in 2022 because they just don't know how to win these races without someone like Trump to run against.

The only hope I have is that Trump announces he will run BEFORE those elections, but I think the GOP will hold him back before then and he'll announce AFTER they take Congress.

....

its difficult honestly to be optimistic about the future fo the republic.

i'm sorry to godwin the thread, but i keep seeing similarities between the Nazis and the US Nationalists/new republicans rise to power.

it feels like Trump's term, culminating in Jan6's riot, was the equivalent of the beer hall putsch. It was clumsy, boorish, went off half cocked and didnt work.

The nazis they went back to the drawing board, learned from their mistakes, and got it right in w hitler into the Chancellory in the 30s.

We're seeing the American Fascists/Nationalists applying the learnings and doing the same sort of thing:

1. Get red states that went for Biden to change vote certification process so that state legislatures certify and not independent election boards or Lt. governors, etc (Arizona and Georgia ha ...

Yeah...anyone with any knowledge of history is horrified right now.


Anyone with a knowledge of history is trying to get the hell out of the country right now.
 
2021-11-04 9:13:24 AM  
I was really impressed that CBS actually had a story about liberal gun owners.  Usually the media portrays liberals as more left wing than hippies and conservatives as all Q nut illiterate idiots.
 
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