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2021-11-03 12:04:13 PM  
"With the timely and authoritative action of the Guards naval forces, the US terrorist Navy's operation to steal Iranian oil in the Sea of Oman failed," Iran's Revolutionary Guards said in a statement published on Wednesday by Iranian state media.

I retired from the US Terrorist Navy some years ago. Back in my day if we wanted to steal a tanker full of Iranian oil we damn well took it. Kids these days I tell ya...
 
2021-11-03 12:28:36 PM  
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2021-11-03 12:52:43 PM  
it narrowly avoided interdiction and returned to port?
 
2021-11-03 12:53:51 PM  
But Iran's so far away.

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2021-11-03 12:54:00 PM  
How did they translate "Stop the steal" into Farsi?

Does this mean Hezbollah can now obstruct justice, and ignore subpoenas about their terrorism like republicans do?
 
2021-11-03 12:54:17 PM  
Wait until the US Terrorist Air Foce drops a few bombs on you or the US Terrorist Space Force drops a titanium card out of Guardian 1 at exactly the right moment.
 
2021-11-03 12:54:48 PM  
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2021-11-03 12:57:17 PM  
Iran says foiled US navy's attempt to seize tanker in Sea of Oman

If navy wanted that tanker, they'd have that tanker.
 
2021-11-03 12:59:34 PM  
I love how trusting we are of the US military these days.  Hopefully, it's just because Iran is so much worse.
 
2021-11-03 1:00:35 PM  
Reminds me of the time Imadinnerjacket said there are no homosexuals in Iran.
 
2021-11-03 1:00:42 PM  
And now I have to question whether there was a tanker. Whether the USN and Iranian forces could even get each other on surface radar. Does Iran have a blue water navy? I mean, I know they do, but DO THEY?

Congratulations, Iran. You've become the Daily Mail.
 
2021-11-03 1:04:44 PM  
We make shiat up about them and rattle our sabres, assassinate their people or attack their installations whenever we feel like it, or when we have a so-called "conservative" who is facing a tough election and wants to give the racists something new to screech about.

So forgive me if my reaction to some propaganda for someone else's own internal population doesn't move my needle much. Big "meh" on this.
 
2021-11-03 1:04:52 PM  

FLMountainMan: I love how trusting we are of the US military these days.  Hopefully, it's just because Iran is so much worse.


"We drove off the American military," whether coming from the likes of Venezuela or Russia, requires a far greater stretch of the imagination than the immediate alternative. It's not about trusting the military, it's that extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence.
 
2021-11-03 1:06:19 PM  

FLMountainMan: I love how trusting we are of the US military these days.  Hopefully, it's just because Iran is so much worse.


Are you naturally this stupid, or do you have to put in effort?
 
2021-11-03 1:07:50 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Iran says foiled US navy's attempt to seize tanker in Sea of Oman

If navy wanted that tanker, they'd have that tanker.


By a SEAL unit, at night. The civilian crew of West Africans wouldn't put up a fight for 3rd-party oil, or a ship owned by Asians.

Also, why bother with limpet bombs that are easily discovered? A torpedo would blow the ship in half.

If the US is worried about them building a bomb, we wouldn't bother with oil ships. We know where the enrichment plants are located. A few Tomahawks (including one or two that throw out carbon fibers to fark with electrical transmission lines), and they're set back 5 years.
 
2021-11-03 1:09:12 PM  
Yeah there's no way the US would violate the sovereignty of another nation. That does not track at all.
 
2021-11-03 1:10:16 PM  

mongbiohazard: So forgive me if my reaction to some propaganda for someone else's own internal population doesn't move my needle much


This is a fair observation, as Iran doesn't seem to have made any sort of official protest, taken it to the UN, anything of the sort. Speaks to the fact that they know perfectly well that it's false, and have no interest in pursuing or defending their allegation.
 
2021-11-03 1:14:34 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Yeah there's no way the US would violate the sovereignty of another nation. That does not track at all.


Also, the US military is undefeatable.

/ Avert your eyes from the two twenty-year wars we just lost to guys in sandals with AKs
 
2021-11-03 1:17:14 PM  
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2021-11-03 1:18:11 PM  
There's video evidence for doubters.  Anyways, US Navy continuing to post Ls, US failing to project power, etc etc.
 
2021-11-03 1:20:32 PM  

FLMountainMan: I love how trusting we are of the US military these days.  Hopefully, it's just because Iran is so much worse.


When I saw the headline, I just knew someone like you would show up here.
 
2021-11-03 1:23:30 PM  

jaytkay: Karma Chameleon: Yeah there's no way the US would violate the sovereignty of another nation. That does not track at all.

Also, the US military is undefeatable.

/ Avert your eyes from the two twenty-year wars we just lost to guys in sandals with AKs


The US military wasn't defeated in Afghanistan. You were.
 
2021-11-03 1:25:12 PM  

Chemlight Battery: FLMountainMan: I love how trusting we are of the US military these days.  Hopefully, it's just because Iran is so much worse.

When I saw the headline, I just knew someone like you would show up here.


Someone who doesn't immediately hop to attention like a good little trained biatch whenever someone says the magic words, "IRAN BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA"? Yeah, I thought there might be a few of us in the thread too.
 
2021-11-03 1:31:21 PM  
"The government clearly want to send a message to the Americans that they are the strongest force in the region and that they are not scared by the US presence in the see of Oman or in the strait of Hurmuz," Jabbari said.

Yes, quite the journalist there...
 
2021-11-03 1:36:19 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Yeah there's no way the US would violate the sovereignty of another nation. That does not track at all.


They left port with a bunch of oil that we told them is under sanctions.

They saw the US Navy waiting for them in open waters.

They turned around and went home, and wrote a strongly worded letter.
 
2021-11-03 1:39:25 PM  

debug: "The government clearly want to send a message to the Americans that they are the strongest force in the region and that they are not scared by the US presence in the see of Oman or in the strait of Hurmuz," Jabbari said.

Yes, quite the journalist there...


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2021-11-03 1:39:44 PM  
We all know know that Iran would never lie. Right?
 
2021-11-03 1:41:42 PM  

Fabric_Man: Does Iran have a blue water navy? I mean, I know they do, but DO THEY?


They actually don't. Theirs is green.
 
2021-11-03 1:42:54 PM  
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2021-11-03 1:45:47 PM  

brainlordmesomorph: Karma Chameleon: Yeah there's no way the US would violate the sovereignty of another nation. That does not track at all.

They left port with a bunch of oil that we told them is under sanctions.

They saw the US Navy waiting for them in open waters.

They turned around and went home, and wrote a strongly worded letter.


"Open waters"

Theres no reason for the US to be on that side of the world. I'm sure we would all be cool with another country's navy just chilling in the gulf of mexico.
 
2021-11-03 1:49:04 PM  

FLMountainMan: I love how trusting we are of the US military these days.  Hopefully, it's just because Iran is so much worse.


Um, that's exactly right. The U.S. has the best military in the world because it's the *least* screwed up.

/Mostly
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2021-11-03 1:49:53 PM  
Of course they did.  Didn't you see the missiles?

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2021-11-03 1:51:29 PM  

Karma Chameleon: brainlordmesomorph: Karma Chameleon: Yeah there's no way the US would violate the sovereignty of another nation. That does not track at all.

They left port with a bunch of oil that we told them is under sanctions.

They saw the US Navy waiting for them in open waters.

They turned around and went home, and wrote a strongly worded letter.

"Open waters"

Theres no reason for the US to be on that side of the world. I'm sure we would all be cool with another country's navy just chilling in the gulf of mexico.


Ah, I always enjoy this old chestnut.

It's so oblivious to the fact that other navies "chill" in the Gulf of Mexico - and sometimes right off our Eastern Seaboard - all the time, and we have no issue with it whatsoever, beyond observing them to ensure that they abide by international law.

Try harder.
 
2021-11-03 1:59:03 PM  
I wish Americans were as good at detecting BS coming out of Washington as they were with Tehran.
 
2021-11-03 2:01:39 PM  

BigNumber12: Fabric_Man: Does Iran have a blue water navy? I mean, I know they do, but DO THEY?

They actually don't. Theirs is green.


a search for Iran's military capabilities at Janes, links you to China's military capabilities
 
2021-11-03 2:06:29 PM  

brainlordmesomorph: BigNumber12: Fabric_Man: Does Iran have a blue water navy? I mean, I know they do, but DO THEY?

They actually don't. Theirs is green.

a search for Iran's military capabilities at Janes, links you to China's military capabilities


I don't understand what you're trying to say. At the very simplest, China is between green and blue, and should be solidly blue before too long. Iran is solidly green, and very unlikely to change. Vastly different situations.
 
2021-11-03 2:13:37 PM  

BigNumber12: Karma Chameleon: brainlordmesomorph: Karma Chameleon: Yeah there's no way the US would violate the sovereignty of another nation. That does not track at all.

They left port with a bunch of oil that we told them is under sanctions.

They saw the US Navy waiting for them in open waters.

They turned around and went home, and wrote a strongly worded letter.

"Open waters"

Theres no reason for the US to be on that side of the world. I'm sure we would all be cool with another country's navy just chilling in the gulf of mexico.

Ah, I always enjoy this old chestnut.

It's so oblivious to the fact that other navies "chill" in the Gulf of Mexico - and sometimes right off our Eastern Seaboard - all the time, and we have no issue with it whatsoever, beyond observing them to ensure that they abide by international law.

Try harder.


When I was in the Navy (I got out in 2019) It was considered a normal boring thing to have a Chinese "fishing trawler" right outside the territorial waters boundary west of San Diego. Said trawler would have no fishing gear but tons of antenna and other intel equipment.

Nobody gives a shiat because they're in international waters, and we routinely invite other countries to our military ports.

For some reason though there's a number of accounts that bring this stupid idea to bear whenever Iran or China comes up.  Almost like they have this idea that countries "own" large international bodies of water despite international agreements to the contrary for decade.

I wonder why people who I have noted as shills for Iran and China would want to push such a narrative.
 
2021-11-03 2:14:17 PM  
Decades* fark.
 
2021-11-03 2:14:36 PM  

BigNumber12: brainlordmesomorph: BigNumber12: Fabric_Man: Does Iran have a blue water navy? I mean, I know they do, but DO THEY?

They actually don't. Theirs is green.

a search for Iran's military capabilities at Janes, links you to China's military capabilities

I don't understand what you're trying to say. At the very simplest, China is between green and blue, and should be solidly blue before too long. Iran is solidly green, and very unlikely to change. Vastly different situations.


Just a report;

I did the search that's what came up, unless its an error, I would think it means (in the current political situation) that functionally China is acting as Iran's navy. (perhaps it is just an error)
 
2021-11-03 2:17:47 PM  

brainlordmesomorph: BigNumber12: brainlordmesomorph: BigNumber12: Fabric_Man: Does Iran have a blue water navy? I mean, I know they do, but DO THEY?

They actually don't. Theirs is green.

a search for Iran's military capabilities at Janes, links you to China's military capabilities

I don't understand what you're trying to say. At the very simplest, China is between green and blue, and should be solidly blue before too long. Iran is solidly green, and very unlikely to change. Vastly different situations.

Just a report;

I did the search that's what came up, unless its an error, I would think it means (in the current political situation) that functionally China is acting as Iran's navy. (perhaps it is just an error)


Error for the most part, though honestly my knowledge is better in regards to China.  If my limited experience serves most of Iran's capabilities lies with FAC/FIAC attacks.  In other words mostly close to shore small boats looking to overwhelm opponents with sheer numbers.
 
2021-11-03 2:19:11 PM  
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2021-11-03 2:21:27 PM  

BigNumber12: Karma Chameleon: brainlordmesomorph: Karma Chameleon: Yeah there's no way the US would violate the sovereignty of another nation. That does not track at all.

They left port with a bunch of oil that we told them is under sanctions.

They saw the US Navy waiting for them in open waters.

They turned around and went home, and wrote a strongly worded letter.

"Open waters"

Theres no reason for the US to be on that side of the world. I'm sure we would all be cool with another country's navy just chilling in the gulf of mexico.

Ah, I always enjoy this old chestnut.

It's so oblivious to the fact that other navies "chill" in the Gulf of Mexico - and sometimes right off our Eastern Seaboard - all the time, and we have no issue with it whatsoever, beyond observing them to ensure that they abide by international law.

Try harder.


citations needed
 
2021-11-03 2:26:16 PM  
I did find this article about Iranian operations in the Gulf of Mexico. Which proves my point, we somehow act like the aggrieved party with no sense of irony.
 
2021-11-03 2:27:30 PM  
Theeng:

I wonder why people who I have noted as shills for Iran and China would want to push such a narrative.

Cant speak for others, but I am not shilling for Iran or China. I am just tired of the extreme hypocrisy the US exhibits on the world stage.
 
2021-11-03 2:28:41 PM  

Karma Chameleon: BigNumber12: Karma Chameleon: brainlordmesomorph: Karma Chameleon: Yeah there's no way the US would violate the sovereignty of another nation. That does not track at all.

They left port with a bunch of oil that we told them is under sanctions.

They saw the US Navy waiting for them in open waters.

They turned around and went home, and wrote a strongly worded letter.

"Open waters"

Theres no reason for the US to be on that side of the world. I'm sure we would all be cool with another country's navy just chilling in the gulf of mexico.

Ah, I always enjoy this old chestnut.

It's so oblivious to the fact that other navies "chill" in the Gulf of Mexico - and sometimes right off our Eastern Seaboard - all the time, and we have no issue with it whatsoever, beyond observing them to ensure that they abide by international law.

Try harder.

citations needed


I was in the US Navy, we routinely hold exercises like WestPAC inviting tons of foreign navies to come to our ports and be near our shores.

Non-US navies being off US shores is such a routine thing it barely makes the local news.  The most you'll see US ships doing anything to foreign vessels near US shores is the coast guard doing drug interdiction stuff.
 
2021-11-03 2:29:42 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I did find this article about Iranian operations in the Gulf of Mexico. Which proves my point, we somehow act like the aggrieved party with no sense of irony.


Yeah Trump's a jackass looking to sabre rattle, he's also the only one.
 
2021-11-03 2:30:22 PM  

Theeng: Karma Chameleon: BigNumber12: Karma Chameleon: brainlordmesomorph: Karma Chameleon: Yeah there's no way the US would violate the sovereignty of another nation. That does not track at all.

They left port with a bunch of oil that we told them is under sanctions.

They saw the US Navy waiting for them in open waters.

They turned around and went home, and wrote a strongly worded letter.

"Open waters"

Theres no reason for the US to be on that side of the world. I'm sure we would all be cool with another country's navy just chilling in the gulf of mexico.

Ah, I always enjoy this old chestnut.

It's so oblivious to the fact that other navies "chill" in the Gulf of Mexico - and sometimes right off our Eastern Seaboard - all the time, and we have no issue with it whatsoever, beyond observing them to ensure that they abide by international law.

Try harder.

citations needed

I was in the US Navy, we routinely hold exercises like WestPAC inviting tons of foreign navies to come to our ports and be near our shores.

Non-US navies being off US shores is such a routine thing it barely makes the local news.  The most you'll see US ships doing anything to foreign vessels near US shores is the coast guard doing drug interdiction stuff.


Thank you for the explanation. I think if the US feels it has the right to puts its military resources everywhere else on the planet, every other nation should be free to do so as well.
 
2021-11-03 2:45:32 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Theeng: Karma Chameleon: BigNumber12: Karma Chameleon: brainlordmesomorph: Karma Chameleon: Yeah there's no way the US would violate the sovereignty of another nation. That does not track at all.

They left port with a bunch of oil that we told them is under sanctions.

They saw the US Navy waiting for them in open waters.

They turned around and went home, and wrote a strongly worded letter.

"Open waters"

Theres no reason for the US to be on that side of the world. I'm sure we would all be cool with another country's navy just chilling in the gulf of mexico.

Ah, I always enjoy this old chestnut.

It's so oblivious to the fact that other navies "chill" in the Gulf of Mexico - and sometimes right off our Eastern Seaboard - all the time, and we have no issue with it whatsoever, beyond observing them to ensure that they abide by international law.

Try harder.

citations needed

I was in the US Navy, we routinely hold exercises like WestPAC inviting tons of foreign navies to come to our ports and be near our shores.

Non-US navies being off US shores is such a routine thing it barely makes the local news.  The most you'll see US ships doing anything to foreign vessels near US shores is the coast guard doing drug interdiction stuff.

Thank you for the explanation. I think if the US feels it has the right to puts its military resources everywhere else on the planet, every other nation should be free to do so as well.


Except we don't, the US has a vested interest in maintaining international law and free trade because that's a rather significant source of soft power.  We focus naval power on chokepoints like the Gulf of Oman or the South China Sea.  Iran is...complicated because of all the political ratfarkery involved but the US Navy will toe the line of legality hard because keeping the maritime status quo going is critical.

As far as the threat goes from TFG's stupidity, that seemed to be more based on warning them away from playing chicken with US warships.  Between that and the calculated 'I'm not touching you' the US does near the fake islands China has put up in the SCS (This is for legal reasons, by sailing near them they're continually established as not recognized as legit islands, thus denying territorial waters and EEZs around them) you can see that a lot of this is really, really dumb.  This was too nuanced for TFG though.
 
2021-11-03 2:50:36 PM  

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2021-11-03 2:52:14 PM  

Dick Gozinya: FLMountainMan: I love how trusting we are of the US military these days.  Hopefully, it's just because Iran is so much worse.

Are you naturally this stupid, or do you have to put in effort?


This level of stupid MUST require effort. Right?


right?
 
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