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2021-10-28 5:11:49 PM  
OH NOES

Didn't critics pan Shang-Chi, too? Saying it was the worst Marvel movie they'd ever seen? Hand-wringing that it would crater the franchise?

Just go see the movie if you want to and draw your own conclusions. FFS
 
2021-10-28 5:14:09 PM  

kumanoki: OH NOES

Didn't critics pan Shang-Chi, too? Saying it was the worst Marvel movie they'd ever seen? Hand-wringing that it would crater the franchise?

Just go see the movie if you want to and draw your own conclusions. FFS


Nah, I'd rather go watch Dune.
 
2021-10-28 5:17:50 PM  

WhippingBoi: kumanoki: OH NOES

Didn't critics pan Shang-Chi, too? Saying it was the worst Marvel movie they'd ever seen? Hand-wringing that it would crater the franchise?

Just go see the movie if you want to and draw your own conclusions. FFS

Nah, I'd rather go watch Dune.


"...if you want to"
 
2021-10-28 5:23:01 PM  

kumanoki: Didn't critics pan Shang-Chi, too?


No
 
2021-10-28 5:27:20 PM  

kumanoki: OH NOES

Didn't critics pan Shang-Chi, too?


Nope, it's one of the higher rated MCU movies
 
2021-10-28 5:28:58 PM  
Glad to see that my initial impression wasn't too far wrong. "Ooo, a large number of hyper-powerful immortals, portrayed by borderline-cameo celebs, are battling generic CGI beasts."

Such deep, riveting plot matter.
 
2021-10-28 5:29:39 PM  

kumanoki: OH NOES

Didn't critics pan Shang-Chi, too? Saying it was the worst Marvel movie they'd ever seen? Hand-wringing that it would crater the franchise?

Just go see the movie if you want to and draw your own conclusions. FFS


Also, yeah what you said. People tend to put too much emphasis on RT score. Of course, they also used to put a lot of emphasis on what just Siskel and Ebert said. So...sideways move? I dunno
 
2021-10-28 5:32:49 PM  
Is the film actually not that great, or is this just more of the same old review bombing by no-life Incels because the movie dares to have both brown people AND women?
 
2021-10-28 5:41:07 PM  

Dhusk: Is the film actually not that great, or is this just more of the same old review bombing by no-life Incels because the movie dares to have both brown people AND women?


Nah this is critical reviews not user reviews. We still have a week before we hear about them about how this is the last Marvel movie they ever watch until the next one.
 
2021-10-28 6:17:51 PM  
WhippingBoi:

So are they going to adapt everything that's cannon, cause the biggest argument I Hear is that dune has hard cannonwhile comic book movies are treated like comic books.

Dune (1965)
Dune Messiah (1969)
Children of Dune (1976)
God Emperor of Dune (1981)
Heretics of Dune (1984)
Chapterhouse: Dune (1985)
House Atreides (1999)
House Harkonnen (2000)
House Corrino (2001)
The Butlerian Jihad (2002)
The Machine Crusade (2003)
The Battle of Corrin (2004)
Hunters of Dune (2006)
Sandworms of Dune (2007)
Heroes of Dune series:
Paul of Dune (2008)
The Winds of Dune (2009)
Sisterhood of Dune (2012)
Mentats of Dune (2014)
Navigators of Dune (2016)
Dune: The Duke of Caladan (2020)
Dune: The Lady of Caladan (2021)
Dune: The Heir of Caladan (2022)
 
2021-10-28 6:27:36 PM  

Dhusk: Is the film actually not that great, or is this just more of the same old review bombing by no-life Incels because the movie dares to have both brown people AND women?


This is the critic score, movie's not out yet.

Being outright sexist or homophobic or generally an asshole when making a professional review would be a good way to get fired outside of some very specific propaganda outlets that publish film reviews for... some farking reason, like the WSJ and NYP and such.  The vast majority of the included reviewers in the critic score are people who work for local papers or entertainment sites and actually have professional standards at least sufficient to forbid that incel / fandom menace loser shiat, so you're fairly safe from that.

There's a flip side that Disney astroturfs the fark out of aggregate reviews with more direct manipulation of how the system works, so for Disney movies specifically you should take the number with something of a grain of salt, but there won't generally be anything that makes the critical reviews artificially lower, only higher.

User reviews are where bombing happens since any random asshole can anonymously input as many scores as they want and GIFT is in full force.

So... yeah, the film is probably fairly bad in the context of looking at it with a critical eye educated in how movies work and/or are supposed to work.  Only 60% of reviewers thinking it meets the bare minimum "not actively a waste of your time and ticket money" required for a review to count as 'positive' probably means it's floating pretty close to that borderline.  How much that matters in the context of a dumb popcorn movie targeted at an audience with a lower bound on the order of six or eight-year-olds who by definition haven't seen many movies and don't know how they're supposed to work is a YMMV thing, I'd advise reading a specific review from a reviewer whose opinion usually matches yours for that one, not looking at the tracking index for how many people gave a simple thumbs-up/thumbs-down.
 
2021-10-28 6:47:33 PM  

AuralArgument: WhippingBoi:

So are they going to adapt everything that's cannon, cause the biggest argument I Hear is that dune has hard cannonwhile comic book movies are treated like comic books.

Dune (1965)
Dune Messiah (1969)
Children of Dune (1976)
God Emperor of Dune (1981)
Heretics of Dune (1984)
Chapterhouse: Dune (1985)
House Atreides (1999)
House Harkonnen (2000)
House Corrino (2001)
The Butlerian Jihad (2002)
The Machine Crusade (2003)
The Battle of Corrin (2004)
Hunters of Dune (2006)
Sandworms of Dune (2007)
Heroes of Dune series:
Paul of Dune (2008)
The Winds of Dune (2009)
Sisterhood of Dune (2012)
Mentats of Dune (2014)
Navigators of Dune (2016)
Dune: The Duke of Caladan (2020)
Dune: The Lady of Caladan (2021)
Dune: The Heir of Caladan (2022)


Technically that list stops being canonical after the sixth entry, Herbert stopped writing after Chapterhouse and the rest are fanfiction, with the extremely arguable exception of Hunters and Sandworms which are ostensibly based on Herbert's rough outlines for the planned seventh book when he abruptly died in 1986... but realistically probably aren't, really.

Like, calling them fanfiction isn't even kind of a loose use of the term like when we talk about the SW sequel trilogy, they're straight up written by Kevin J Anderson.  You don't get any more fanfic than that, fanfic is that man's entire career no matter what terminology you try to use to make it sound fancier.

Also, yes, I really hope they get all the way to the weird trippy shiat like when characters start mad sciencing their biology into the lifecycle of sandworms Because Reasons and entire books revolve around acid-trip discussions of made-up ecology interspersed with nonsensical ultraviolence.  If Dune had been a superhero comic it'd have been more Mighty Thor or Doctor Strange than Superman, it didn't have the intentional goofiness but definitely created some surreal nonsense by way of absolutely refusing to be anything but fully, sincerely dedicated to every scifi premise involved at all times.
 
2021-10-28 6:49:17 PM  

Dhusk: Is the film actually not that great, or is this just more of the same old review bombing by no-life Incels because the movie dares to have both brown people AND women?


why is it so unthinkable that marvel made a crappy movie
didnt you see doctor strange
or iron man 2
or thor 2
or avengers 2

//or nomadland
 
2021-10-28 6:57:42 PM  
The Eternals is no different than GotG.

They a C-list superheroes.

The only thing that makes them good and worth watching is a great story, good talent, and a director that wants to mix it up.

I don't think Eternals has that going for it.

/just more power creep
 
2021-10-28 7:17:53 PM  

TDWCom29: kumanoki: OH NOES

Didn't critics pan Shang-Chi, too?

Nope, it's one of the higher rated MCU movies


And Tony Leung was an amazing villian in that movie.
 
2021-10-28 7:32:37 PM  

madgonad: The Eternals is no different than GotG.

They a C-list superheroes.

The only thing that makes them good and worth watching is a great story, good talent, and a director that wants to mix it up.

I don't think Eternals has that going for it.

/just more power creep


From the reviews I've seen this movie does mix it up at least a little bit. Just in a(n apparently) more boring way
 
2021-10-28 7:34:53 PM  
TDWCom29:

Rotten Tomatoes is a good way to evaluate a movie. Great even. Why? Two scores.

Critics are like porn stars. Most of us are just happy to pump away in bed or eat popcorn and enjoy a movie because we don't do this all day every day.

But porn stars and movie critics do it professionally. They've seen and or done it all a hundred times and the normal stuff is boring, so they start getting weird with it and maybe even start to dislike the "normal" stuff.  If it's not six guys three girls dressed as ponies in a real barn all allegedly step-siblings or a documentary, it's getting a bad review.

The audience, otoh, is mostly find with the latest Adam Sandler movie with all the recycled jokes or anything Michael Bay blows up. Brain off, explosions on, high score.

So you have to learn to read the ratios.
 
2021-10-28 7:37:13 PM  

AuralArgument: WhippingBoi:

So are they going to adapt everything that's cannon, cause the biggest argument I Hear is that dune has hard cannonwhile comic book movies are treated like comic books.

Dune (1965)
Dune Messiah (1969)
Children of Dune (1976)
God Emperor of Dune (1981)
Heretics of Dune (1984)
Chapterhouse: Dune (1985)
House Atreides (1999)
House Harkonnen (2000)
House Corrino (2001)
The Butlerian Jihad (2002)
The Machine Crusade (2003)
The Battle of Corrin (2004)
Hunters of Dune (2006)
Sandworms of Dune (2007)
Heroes of Dune series:
Paul of Dune (2008)
The Winds of Dune (2009)
Sisterhood of Dune (2012)
Mentats of Dune (2014)
Navigators of Dune (2016)
Dune: The Duke of Caladan (2020)
Dune: The Lady of Caladan (2021)
Dune: The Heir of Caladan (2022)


Should be any day now when House Ordos gets a book.
 
2021-10-28 7:46:35 PM  
Chances are these aren't real reviews that are taking the score, it's probably a bunch of dickless neckbeards in their mom's basement that are upset that some non-white people are playing superheroes and complaining about "wokeism" and "pandering" and whatever else.
 
2021-10-28 8:02:18 PM  

TDWCom29: kumanoki: OH NOES

Didn't critics pan Shang-Chi, too? Saying it was the worst Marvel movie they'd ever seen? Hand-wringing that it would crater the franchise?

Just go see the movie if you want to and draw your own conclusions. FFS

Also, yeah what you said. People tend to put too much emphasis on RT score. Of course, they also used to put a lot of emphasis on what just Siskel and Ebert said. So...sideways move? I dunno


I can't always trust critics. Every hated Usual Suspects and Fast Times at Ridgemont High I seem to recall that Sisley hated Star Wars
 
2021-10-28 8:04:17 PM  

Aezetyr: Chances are these aren't real reviews that are taking the score, it's probably a bunch of dickless neckbeards in their mom's basement that are upset that some non-white people are playing superheroes and complaining about "wokeism" and "pandering" and whatever else.


Not sure if this is a serious comment or not (screen name's not ringing a bell), but this isn't the case. This is actual critics, and the top critics (ie non-bloggers) seem to be the ones really dragging it down.
 
2021-10-28 8:12:02 PM  

moothemagiccow: Dhusk: Is the film actually not that great, or is this just more of the same old review bombing by no-life Incels because the movie dares to have both brown people AND women?

why is it so unthinkable that marvel made a crappy movie
didnt you see doctor strange
or iron man 2
or thor 2
or avengers 2

//or nomadland


The general rule is each of the characters get one good solo movie.

Iron Man
Winter Soldier
Ragnarok

You can skip the other solo movies.
 
2021-10-28 8:20:34 PM  

Aezetyr: Chances are these aren't real reviews that are taking the score, it's probably a bunch of dickless neckbeards in their mom's basement that are upset that some non-white people are playing superheroes and complaining about "wokeism" and "pandering" and whatever else.


Is there some sort of automatic script that writes this crap?
 
2021-10-28 8:40:44 PM  
I hated Thor 2 upon first viewing. Saw it several years later, loved it. I think what changed for me was Loki. Barely knew the guy when Thor 2 came out. But after years of characterization, he became one of my favorites.
 
2021-10-28 8:43:30 PM  
FTFA: and nine points lower than the actual worst MCU movie (Iron Man 2, sitting at 72 percent).

Article is bad and should feel bad.  That goes to Thor 2 or Iron Man 3.
 
2021-10-28 8:54:49 PM  

hammer85: FTFA: and nine points lower than the actual worst MCU movie (Iron Man 2, sitting at 72 percent).

Article is bad and should feel bad.  That goes to Thor 2 or Iron Man 3.


I rather enjoyed both of those.
 
2021-10-28 9:15:12 PM  

leeksfromchichis: So you have to learn to read the ratios.


Honestly, I feel like this does a disservice to both audiences and critics. Each of them approaches a movie from different perspectives, and that really informs the reactions.

On one hand, critics approach a movie in terms of other movies they've seen, and as critics, they've seen a lot. They want to put the film in context, they want to analyze the film, they want to understand both the intent and the expression and the reaction.

On the other, audiences approach movies based on pure emotional reaction, amplified through social connections. People want movies to make them feel things, maybe not deeply, but they want a reaction of some kind, and more than that, they want to share that reaction with a community.

Both of these are, at their core, conservative movements. They want movies like what they're familiar with. Critics want movies that feel like the movies they cut their teeth on. Audiences want movies that are like the movies they saw last week. But both of them have a satiation limit- at some point, they want something different. But even deeper than that, critics are able to take surprising and complex movies and peg them into the structure of film, and make them accessible or at least appreciate them. Audiences, on the other hand, can amplify the zeitgeist, and things that have no place being successful can suddenly explode because audiences saw something in them.

Nobody's right, nobody's wrong, and honestly, the best movies are the ones that either have wildly different critic/audience reactions, or the ones where the critics and the audience are both equally mixed. Because the best movies are interesting enough that your emotional reaction is complicated.
 
2021-10-28 9:16:16 PM  
RT might be useful if you divide the score by 10, subtract 5, and consider it the standard 5 star rating system.  Maybe.

But it remains true that nothing beats finding an insightful reviewer you trust and actually READING their reviews so you understand their scoring.
 
2021-10-28 9:17:43 PM  
Because the Eternals suck.
 
2021-10-28 9:33:23 PM  

Unsung_Hero: nothing beats finding an insightful reviewer you trust and actually READING their reviews


No way. Critics spoil like most of the movie. First they start off with "the movie is about an elf who goes to space" and the characters spend the first 30 minutes asking if space elves are real. Then they turn to "the twist about 3/4 of the way in really makes it worthwhile" or "the last act really drags and is a major disappointment." Then that's all I farking think about, waiting for the damn twist or the shiatty last act the whole movie.

Yes I hate the people who try to do math to these arbitrary numbers and say "no this actually deserved a 7.6, and objectively should be considered better than Avengers 2, which has a 7.4" but the little stupid blurb on rotten tomatoes is more than enough
 
2021-10-28 9:35:04 PM  

PartTimeBuddha: hammer85: FTFA: and nine points lower than the actual worst MCU movie (Iron Man 2, sitting at 72 percent).

Article is bad and should feel bad.  That goes to Thor 2 or Iron Man 3.

I rather enjoyed both of those.


Thor 2 was just boring to me but I don't fault people for liking it.  IM3 was just...ugh, I hated everything about that movie.
 
2021-10-28 9:35:25 PM  

Dhusk: Is the film actually not that great, or is this just more of the same old review bombing by no-life Incels because the movie dares to have both brown people AND women?


Most of the reviews are critics' reviews, but it is getting review-bombed on IMDb by the usual anti-"wokeness" brigade.  Then again, it is IMDb, after all; that damned site hasn't been relevant for years.

moothemagiccow:

why is it so unthinkable that marvel made a crappy movie
didnt you see doctor strange


You can just sit down and shut your whore mouth, thank you very little.  Doctor Strange was great.  It wasn't mindblowingly amazing, but still a good MCU film.

WhippingBoi: Aezetyr: Chances are these aren't real reviews that are taking the score, it's probably a bunch of dickless neckbeards in their mom's basement that are upset that some non-white people are playing superheroes and complaining about "wokeism" and "pandering" and whatever else.

Is there some sort of automatic script that writes this crap?


Well, if you go to IMDb and look up the film, you'll see that the usual "anti-woke" crowd are doing exactly what "that crap" writing says.
 
2021-10-28 9:44:47 PM  

AgtSmithReloaded: Dhusk: Is the film actually not that great, or is this just more of the same old review bombing by no-life Incels because the movie dares to have both brown people AND women?

Most of the reviews are critics' reviews, but it is getting review-bombed on IMDb by the usual anti-"wokeness" brigade.  Then again, it is IMDb, after all; that damned site hasn't been relevant for years.

moothemagiccow:

why is it so unthinkable that marvel made a crappy movie
didnt you see doctor strange

You can just sit down and shut your whore mouth, thank you very little.  Doctor Strange was great.  It wasn't mindblowingly amazing, but still a good MCU film.

WhippingBoi: Aezetyr: Chances are these aren't real reviews that are taking the score, it's probably a bunch of dickless neckbeards in their mom's basement that are upset that some non-white people are playing superheroes and complaining about "wokeism" and "pandering" and whatever else.

Is there some sort of automatic script that writes this crap?

Well, if you go to IMDb and look up the film, you'll see that the usual "anti-woke" crowd are doing exactly what "that crap" writing says.


The article was about reviews on RT by purportedly professional reviewers, not the garbage that is IMDB.
 
2021-10-28 9:45:50 PM  
People need to get over this mindset of "Marvel films have to have high review scores and make billions of dollars, otherwise they're flops".  Even the MCU is allowed to have movies that under-perform.  There's no shame in it, and there's no agenda that leads to that under-performance, despite what the "Fandom Menace" types would have you believe.

When the film actually releases, aside from the nonsensical anti-woke bullshiat that pops up about any film that dares to have a person of color, woman, or any member of the LGBTQIA+ community in it, people will start saying one of two things:

1. "It took too many risks; it didn't feel like an MCU film!  It should've stuck to the formula that works!"

2. "It didn't take any risks!  It felt like just another MCU film with the same tropes and story beats!  It's always the same formula!!!"

It's further proof that not only do professional film critics not know what they're talking about, nor do most regular people.

Just see it for yourself and make your own rational, thought-out judgments.
 
2021-10-28 9:47:56 PM  
After a certain amount of time it's all shiat baked in the Sun way too long.
 
2021-10-28 9:48:37 PM  

Foolkiller: Because the Eternals suck.


I've never read the comics, but from all I've read they're a big bore. So I guess this makes the choice to adapt it for the MCU even more odd. Unless it was absolutely necessary to set up whatever's coming

Unsaid in all of this is that this forever proves my theory that poor old Kumail Nanjiani means box office death
 
2021-10-28 9:50:17 PM  
I never read the Eternals comics, they were way over powered.
 
2021-10-28 9:51:51 PM  

WhippingBoi: Aezetyr: Chances are these aren't real reviews that are taking the score, it's probably a bunch of dickless neckbeards in their mom's basement that are upset that some non-white people are playing superheroes and complaining about "wokeism" and "pandering" and whatever else.

Is there some sort of automatic script that writes this crap?


It's only in Russian.
 
2021-10-28 9:52:29 PM  

AgtSmithReloaded: People need to get over this mindset of "Marvel films have to have high review scores and make billions of dollars, otherwise they're flops".  Even the MCU is allowed to have movies that under-perform.  There's no shame in it, and there's no agenda that leads to that under-performance, despite what the "Fandom Menace" types would have you believe.

When the film actually releases, aside from the nonsensical anti-woke bullshiat that pops up about any film that dares to have a person of color, woman, or any member of the LGBTQIA+ community in it, people will start saying one of two things:

1. "It took too many risks; it didn't feel like an MCU film!  It should've stuck to the formula that works!"

2. "It didn't take any risks!  It felt like just another MCU film with the same tropes and story beats!  It's always the same formula!!!"

It's further proof that not only do professional film critics not know what they're talking about, nor do most regular people.

Just see it for yourself and make your own rational, thought-out judgments.


Eh, they can make a bad movie*. It was bound to happen eventually. This would be the first "Rotten" movie in their 13 years of existence so you can't really say the critics have been unfair

*I mean critically, obviously a lot of individual people already think they made at least one bad movie
 
2021-10-28 9:53:03 PM  

TDWCom29: Foolkiller: Because the Eternals suck.

I've never read the comics, but from all I've read about them they're a big bore. So I guess this makes the choice to adapt it for the MCU even more odd. Unless it was absolutely necessary to set up whatever's coming

Unsaid in all of this is that this forever proves my theory that poor old Kumail Nanjiani means box office death


To be more clear
 
2021-10-28 10:01:36 PM  

TDWCom29: AgtSmithReloaded: People need to get over this mindset of "Marvel films have to have high review scores and make billions of dollars, otherwise they're flops".  Even the MCU is allowed to have movies that under-perform.  There's no shame in it, and there's no agenda that leads to that under-performance, despite what the "Fandom Menace" types would have you believe.

When the film actually releases, aside from the nonsensical anti-woke bullshiat that pops up about any film that dares to have a person of color, woman, or any member of the LGBTQIA+ community in it, people will start saying one of two things:

1. "It took too many risks; it didn't feel like an MCU film!  It should've stuck to the formula that works!"

2. "It didn't take any risks!  It felt like just another MCU film with the same tropes and story beats!  It's always the same formula!!!"

It's further proof that not only do professional film critics not know what they're talking about, nor do most regular people.

Just see it for yourself and make your own rational, thought-out judgments.

Eh, they can make a bad movie*. It was bound to happen eventually. This would be the first "Rotten" movie in their 13 years of existence so you can't really say the critics have been unfair

*I mean critically, obviously a lot of individual people already think they made at least one bad movie


Not saying it will be a good movie, or not, but it is still fresh, technically, for now.
 
2021-10-28 10:20:51 PM  

AuralArgument: WhippingBoi:

So are they going to adapt everything that's cannon, cause the biggest argument I Hear is that dune has hard cannonwhile comic book movies are treated like comic books.

Dune (1965)
Dune Messiah (1969)
Children of Dune (1976)
God Emperor of Dune (1981)
Heretics of Dune (1984)
Chapterhouse: Dune (1985)
House Atreides (1999)
House Harkonnen (2000)
House Corrino (2001)
The Butlerian Jihad (2002)
The Machine Crusade (2003)
The Battle of Corrin (2004)
Hunters of Dune (2006)
Sandworms of Dune (2007)
Heroes of Dune series:
Paul of Dune (2008)
The Winds of Dune (2009)
Sisterhood of Dune (2012)
Mentats of Dune (2014)
Navigators of Dune (2016)
Dune: The Duke of Caladan (2020)
Dune: The Lady of Caladan (2021)
Dune: The Heir of Caladan (2022)


Please don't remind me of those "sequel" books. I suffered through their useless shiat for so damn long. And all for the Duncan Idaho ending and everything "fixed" and "perfect" for everyone
 
2021-10-28 10:20:55 PM  
I get the feeling that people think of the Rottentomatoes score as being like a school assignment -- you want over 90%, or you've done something wrong and failed somehow.

50% on Rottentomatoes is fine.  It's the same as when Siskel would give a thumbs-down and Ebert a thumbs-up.   That movie that got 50% approval from Siskel & Ebert might be The Silence of the Lambs or Unforgiven.
 
2021-10-28 10:25:25 PM  

moothemagiccow: Unsung_Hero: nothing beats finding an insightful reviewer you trust and actually READING their reviews

No way. Critics spoil like most of the movie. First they start off with "the movie is about an elf who goes to space" and the characters spend the first 30 minutes asking if space elves are real. Then they turn to "the twist about 3/4 of the way in really makes it worthwhile" or "the last act really drags and is a major disappointment." Then that's all I farking think about, waiting for the damn twist or the shiatty last act the whole movie.


You've never read a good reviewer; the good ones talk about whether the movie competently executes the requirements of its genre and will explain the ways in which it fails or exceeds that standard without spoiling the movie for you.

The rest of them are just attention whores with Internet access.
 
2021-10-28 10:31:21 PM  
Holy crap. Scott Mendelson of Forbes gave it a 4/10. Did not see that coming.
 
2021-10-28 10:37:20 PM  
I have to say that when I heard of this movie and even after seeing the trailer ,it reminds me of that terrible Marvel TV show called The Inhumans .
 
2021-10-28 10:43:41 PM  

sinner4ever: that terrible Marvel TV show called The Inhumans .


Oh come on!  You mean you weren't entertained by the complete lack of a single sympathetic character, more than 2 seconds of any real action, or the fact that all the major players were given reasons not to use their powers in the very first episode? Or was it the bad acting and dialogue?

Whoever looked at that script and gave it a green light needs to lose their career, not their job.  And if it wasn't the same person who said, "sure, we can do that script justice on this budget", then that other person should lose theirs as well.

The actors?  Well, they were doing their jobs and deserve their pay.  With all the other factors dragging them down, I'm not sure I'd want to single anyone out for a bad performance that should affect their careers.
 
2021-10-28 11:22:56 PM  

TDWCom29: kumanoki: OH NOES

Didn't critics pan Shang-Chi, too?

Nope, it's one of the higher rated MCU movies


And was amazing.
 
2021-10-28 11:25:08 PM  

Dhusk: Is the film actually not that great, or is this just rkmore of the same old review bombing by no-life Incels because the movie dares to have both brown people AND women?


Every review I have seen says it is slow as fark with lots of lore being explained by...lots and lots of exposition.
 
2021-10-28 11:29:47 PM  

TDWCom29: Unsaid in all of this is that this forever proves my theory that poor old Kumail Nanjiani means box office death


Kumail could've been one of the greatest standups, I don't know what the fark he's doing in movies.
Sure he did a good job playing himself in the Big Sick but everything else I've seen him in has been embarrassing
 
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