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2021-10-28 8:42:47 AM  
Trump showing up in Virginia on behalf of Youngkin would be the best single thing that could possibly happen for Terry McAuliffe. That would motivate the vast hordes of suburban voters, mostly apathetic but who loathe Trump, like nothing else and the race would go from being a toss-up to a blow-out overnight. I guess one of Trump's aides must have actually been able to talk some sense into him. Either that, or Youngkin paid a tidy under-table sum.
 
2021-10-28 8:54:20 AM  
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The last one. He be trolling both sides.
But The Lincoln Project and others be trolling him.
Him seeing this commercial (among others) is what's making him mad at both sides.
Ungrateful
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2021-10-28 8:54:41 AM  
"Trump suggests he might drop a bomb on the Va. gov race." I hope he courtesy flushes.
 
2021-10-28 9:14:56 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Trump showing up in Virginia on behalf of Youngkin would be the best single thing that could possibly happen for Terry McAuliffe. That would motivate the vast hordes of suburban voters, mostly apathetic but who loathe Trump, like nothing else and the race would go from being a toss-up to a blow-out overnight. I guess one of Trump's aides must have actually been able to talk some sense into him. Either that, or Youngkin paid a tidy under-table sum.


I think you're right, and I hope you're right. But mostly, I hope you're right and that TFG's failure to deliver in Virginia will be noticed far and wide. That people will recall Georgia Senate runoffs in context with TFG failing to help in Virginia. And that light bulbs will appear over more and more heads.

Not that the hard core GQP will abandon him, but it might help further fracture the GOP. They've been clamoring for a Civil War. They deserve and internal one.
 
2021-10-28 9:28:23 AM  
He's not coming, he said that so he could play both sides.

If Youngkin wins, he can say it's because of his last minute "endorsement" and people being energized that he might show up!

If Youngkin loses, he can say it's because Youngkin didn't take him up on the offer and get him to energize the base!

Either way he gets to pretend that's he's king shiat.
 
2021-10-28 9:31:05 AM  
Jo Jorgensen is a woman. I  know the name might confuse some people.
 
2021-10-28 9:34:46 AM  
Well if they'd been vaccinated, they wouldn't be so breathless.
 
2021-10-28 9:37:09 AM  

Walker: [Fark user image image 447x592]

The last one. He be trolling both sides.
But The Lincoln Project and others be trolling him.
Him seeing this commercial (among others) is what's making him mad at both sides.
[YouTube video: Ungrateful]


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There was talk about how Trump has been remarkably constrained in not making the race about him, he announces a visit to make it about him, fails to actually show up.
 
2021-10-28 9:39:05 AM  

Grungehamster: Walker: [Fark user image image 447x592]

The last one. He be trolling both sides.
But The Lincoln Project and others be trolling him.
Him seeing this commercial (among others) is what's making him mad at both sides.
[YouTube video: Ungrateful]

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There was talk about how Trump has been remarkably constrained in not making the race about him, he announces a visit to make it about him, fails to actually show up.


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2021-10-28 9:41:48 AM  
Trump continues to prove that he has the mental acuity of a 13 year old child.
 
2021-10-28 9:42:04 AM  
Trump doesn't like to stray too far from his big boy bed these days.
 
2021-10-28 9:42:19 AM  
It's not cold enough for his supporters to freeze to death or hike for miles when he abandons them, so I am ambivalent.

If VA goes red because of suburban disinterest then so be it.  Slow f*cking learners.
 
2021-10-28 9:42:46 AM  
"Before Tuesday's election".

Err, there's an option for no-excuse mail in voting, and early in-person voting has been going on for at least a week.  At least here around Fairfax County.  (Or "a massive attempt at voter fraud".)

/Went in Sunday, figured it'd be quieter and there was still a line out of the door.
 
2021-10-28 9:44:24 AM  
He'll show up right after the election with a boatload of election fraud accusations and absolutely no evidence to back it up.
 
2021-10-28 9:44:33 AM  

freakdiablo: "Before Tuesday's election".

Err, there's an option for no-excuse mail in voting, and early in-person voting has been going on for at least a week. At least here around Fairfax County.  (Or "a massive attempt at voter fraud".)

/Went in Sunday, figured it'd be quieter and there was still a line out of the door.


Fairfax County has had early in-person voting since September 17.
I should know, I voted the very first day.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/electio​n​s/early-voting
 
2021-10-28 9:44:53 AM  

Rucker10: Trump continues to prove that he has the mental acuity of a 13 year old child.


I remember my 13 year old self and that's an insult to me.
 
2021-10-28 9:46:10 AM  
Breathlessly? Should have got the vaccine then.
 
2021-10-28 9:46:17 AM  

wademh: Pocket Ninja: Trump showing up in Virginia on behalf of Youngkin would be the best single thing that could possibly happen for Terry McAuliffe. That would motivate the vast hordes of suburban voters, mostly apathetic but who loathe Trump, like nothing else and the race would go from being a toss-up to a blow-out overnight. I guess one of Trump's aides must have actually been able to talk some sense into him. Either that, or Youngkin paid a tidy under-table sum.

I think you're right, and I hope you're right. But mostly, I hope you're right and that TFG's failure to deliver in Virginia will be noticed far and wide. That people will recall Georgia Senate runoffs in context with TFG failing to help in Virginia. And that light bulbs will appear over more and more heads.

Not that the hard core GQP will abandon him, but it might help further fracture the GOP. They've been clamoring for a Civil War. They deserve and internal one.


Problem with the idea of the GOP abandoning Trump is they have nothing else. They have no base. It belongs to Trump now.

I have no doubt a significant portion of GOP politicians are silently wishing he would have a stroke or heart attack, but none of them would publicly oppose bc it would be political suicide.

Backing him may also be unpopular but it gets you the support of a sizable base that will reliably turn out for every election.
 
2021-10-28 9:48:38 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Trump showing up in Virginia on behalf of Youngkin would be the best single thing that could possibly happen for Terry McAuliffe. That would motivate the vast hordes of suburban voters, mostly apathetic but who loathe Trump, like nothing else and the race would go from being a toss-up to a blow-out overnight. I guess one of Trump's aides must have actually been able to talk some sense into him. Either that, or Youngkin paid a tidy under-table sum.


I got an ad in the mail yesterday plastered with Youngkin / Trump pictures and quotes.  It took me a while to figure out which party sent it because it would work either way.

/Spoiler alert: It was the Republicans
 
2021-10-28 9:50:46 AM  
Trump is waiting for after election day.  He will be filing a suit against "Democracy" since he is tired of people being fooled by voters and wants to protect the country from this happening in the future.
 
2021-10-28 9:51:39 AM  
My local Sinclair network ran an attack ad on a Republican running for some local/ state office; I didn't care.  But the entire ad was about his long Never Trump stance.  That's where Ohio is.  Still attacking Never Trumpers.
 
2021-10-28 9:53:10 AM  

mainsail: Breathlessly? Should have got the vaccine then.


same joke's up the page, plagiarist

Shunning you for this.  Shun shun shun.  Boy, that word looks weirder the more you type it.  Shun.  Sh

oh.  Sorry everyone.  I...sorry.
 
2021-10-28 9:53:13 AM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: "Trump suggests he might drop a bomb on the Va. gov race." I hope he courtesy flushes.


He's gonna let the Virginia voters handle that.
 
2021-10-28 9:54:11 AM  
What a FARKING LIAR.
He told us he would go away if he lost.
 
2021-10-28 9:54:31 AM  

bighairyguy: He'll show up right after the election with a boatload of election fraud accusations and absolutely no evidence to back it up.


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2021-10-28 9:55:04 AM  
There's always a tweet?

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2021-10-28 9:55:19 AM  
He'll be here in two weeks.
 
2021-10-28 9:55:52 AM  

Spaz-master: What a FARKING LIAR.
He told us he would go away if he lost.


Thus he did not lose the election since it was stolen from him him. QED.
 
2021-10-28 9:58:57 AM  

bighairyguy: I got an ad in the mail yesterday plastered with Youngkin / Trump pictures and quotes.  It took me a while to figure out which party sent it because it would work either way.

/Spoiler alert: It was the Republicans


It's been a real weird election season. I've gotten R & D flyers...None of the Youngkin had anything to do with Trump, all of the McAuliffe flyers did...even though they were intentionally making it difficult to see that the flyer was funded by friends of McAuliffe.
 
2021-10-28 10:00:05 AM  
There are a lot of Trump headlines today. Must be anticipation for the shiatshow that comes when details of the BBB bill are dropped?
 
2021-10-28 10:00:26 AM  

X-Geek: He'll be here in two weeks.


As soon as he releases his healthcare plan.
 
2021-10-28 10:00:28 AM  

born_yesterday: My local Sinclair network ran an attack ad on a Republican running for some local/ state office; I didn't care.  But the entire ad was about his long Never Trump stance.  That's where Ohio is.  Still attacking Never Trumpers.


Where they're headed a smaller but purer party of zealots is more useful to their end goal than a larger party that has dissenting voices or people unwilling to take the next steps.

As long as they can keep winning state elections due to gerrymandering they're going to keep down this path.
 
2021-10-28 10:00:35 AM  

Grungehamster: bighairyguy: He'll show up right after the election with a boatload of election fraud accusations and absolutely no evidence to back it up.

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And the punchline to this is that Trump has said a number of times "the rules are different" if the Democrats are cheating, which means this justifies anything he does, like planning an insurrection to reverse the election results.  Pure playground logic.
 
2021-10-28 10:02:56 AM  

wademh: Pocket Ninja: Trump showing up in Virginia on behalf of Youngkin would be the best single thing that could possibly happen for Terry McAuliffe. That would motivate the vast hordes of suburban voters, mostly apathetic but who loathe Trump, like nothing else and the race would go from being a toss-up to a blow-out overnight. I guess one of Trump's aides must have actually been able to talk some sense into him. Either that, or Youngkin paid a tidy under-table sum.

I think you're right, and I hope you're right. But mostly, I hope you're right and that TFG's failure to deliver in Virginia will be noticed far and wide. That people will recall Georgia Senate runoffs in context with TFG failing to help in Virginia. And that light bulbs will appear over more and more heads.

Not that the hard core GQP will abandon him, but it might help further fracture the GOP. They've been clamoring for a Civil War. They deserve and internal one.


Was there a big ol' internal house cleaning/civil war within the Nazi party before they really took off and took power?  Not snarky, I really don't know.  But I suspect there was a come-to-Adolf point where everybody in the party had to toe the same line, by force.  Sometime in the early 30s?
 
2021-10-28 10:03:17 AM  

misanthropicsob: There are a lot of Trump headlines today. Must be anticipation for the shiatshow that comes when details of the BBB bill are dropped?


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2021-10-28 10:04:27 AM  
Because you're the kind of person who always says it's film, when you know that it's only a movie!

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2021-10-28 10:05:07 AM  

Aquapope: wademh: Pocket Ninja: Trump showing up in Virginia on behalf of Youngkin would be the best single thing that could possibly happen for Terry McAuliffe. That would motivate the vast hordes of suburban voters, mostly apathetic but who loathe Trump, like nothing else and the race would go from being a toss-up to a blow-out overnight. I guess one of Trump's aides must have actually been able to talk some sense into him. Either that, or Youngkin paid a tidy under-table sum.

I think you're right, and I hope you're right. But mostly, I hope you're right and that TFG's failure to deliver in Virginia will be noticed far and wide. That people will recall Georgia Senate runoffs in context with TFG failing to help in Virginia. And that light bulbs will appear over more and more heads.

Not that the hard core GQP will abandon him, but it might help further fracture the GOP. They've been clamoring for a Civil War. They deserve and internal one.

Was there a big ol' internal house cleaning/civil war within the Nazi party before they really took off and took power?  Not snarky, I really don't know.  But I suspect there was a come-to-Adolf point where everybody in the party had to toe the same line, by force.  Sometime in the early 30s?


the night of the long knives. Where the SS purged the SA
 
2021-10-28 10:05:44 AM  

bighairyguy: He'll show up right after the election with a boatload of election fraud accusations and absolutely no evidence to back it up.


The election officials should sue for defamation.
 
2021-10-28 10:06:02 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Trump showing up in Virginia on behalf of Youngkin would be the best single thing that could possibly happen for Terry McAuliffe. That would motivate the vast hordes of suburban voters, mostly apathetic but who loathe Trump, like nothing else and the race would go from being a toss-up to a blow-out overnight. I guess one of Trump's aides must have actually been able to talk some sense into him. Either that, or Youngkin paid a tidy under-table sum.


You know, that would be a totally legal form of extortion Trump could engage in. Watch for close races in states where he would not help, probably hurt. Call the official: "Hey, look, Trump is thinking about coming to that state to do some fundraising. He is gonna say all kinda crazy shiat. He might even drop the n-word. Who knows. Now, if there was some alternate way we could raise this money and save the expense of the trip, maybe he would not have to come you know. Say maybe a 1,000 person @$1,000 a plate dinner where 50% goes to our PAC?"
 
2021-10-28 10:08:07 AM  
He's gonna drop a Trump Dump™ on it.
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2021-10-28 10:13:03 AM  

Aquapope: wademh: Pocket Ninja: Trump showing up in Virginia on behalf of Youngkin would be the best single thing that could possibly happen for Terry McAuliffe. That would motivate the vast hordes of suburban voters, mostly apathetic but who loathe Trump, like nothing else and the race would go from being a toss-up to a blow-out overnight. I guess one of Trump's aides must have actually been able to talk some sense into him. Either that, or Youngkin paid a tidy under-table sum.

I think you're right, and I hope you're right. But mostly, I hope you're right and that TFG's failure to deliver in Virginia will be noticed far and wide. That people will recall Georgia Senate runoffs in context with TFG failing to help in Virginia. And that light bulbs will appear over more and more heads.

Not that the hard core GQP will abandon him, but it might help further fracture the GOP. They've been clamoring for a Civil War. They deserve and internal one.

Was there a big ol' internal house cleaning/civil war within the Nazi party before they really took off and took power?  Not snarky, I really don't know.  But I suspect there was a come-to-Adolf point where everybody in the party had to toe the same line, by force.  Sometime in the early 30s?


There was certainly one shortly after they took power.

The first major thing they did after consolidating control over Germany was to murder virtually all the leadership of the SA, killing up to a thousand people over the course of three days, due to concerns about them being insufficiently to loyal to Hitler and their continued push for economic changes that would favor their working class base.
 
2021-10-28 10:16:08 AM  

bighairyguy: I got an ad in the mail yesterday plastered with Youngkin / Trump pictures and quotes.  It took me a while to figure out which party sent it because it would work either way.

/Spoiler alert: It was the Republicans


That's funny because I got an ad in the mail earlier this week that was plastered with Trump/Youngkin pictures from the Democratic Party of Virginia.
 
2021-10-28 10:18:53 AM  

The Homer Tax: bighairyguy: I got an ad in the mail yesterday plastered with Youngkin / Trump pictures and quotes.  It took me a while to figure out which party sent it because it would work either way.

/Spoiler alert: It was the Republicans

That's funny because I got an ad in the mail earlier this week that was plastered with Trump/Youngkin pictures from the Democratic Party of Virginia.


I just want the TV ads to end.  My mute button has been taking a beating the last couple of months.
 
2021-10-28 10:20:50 AM  

bighairyguy: I just want the TV ads to end.  My mute button has been taking a beating the last couple of months.


I made the mistake of having live TV on in Primetime once earlier this week. The ads on streaming services are bad enough, but holy shiat the stuff on live TV is non-stop.
 
2021-10-28 10:21:15 AM  

Walker: X-Geek: He'll be here in two weeks.

As soon as he releases his healthcare plan.


... and his plan on how to get out of Afghanistan,

and his taxes...
 
2021-10-28 10:24:16 AM  

Walker: [Fark user image 447x592]

The last one. He be trolling both sides.
But The Lincoln Project and others be trolling him.
Him seeing this commercial (among others) is what's making him mad at both sides.
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I fail to see how this is "trolling Democrats" at all?

"Hey, you should do a stupid thing."

"Well, maybe I will do that stupid thing!"

"Umm...ok great."

"LOL I TROLLED YOU!"


By not showing up, all he's doing is proving the Democrats' point - he's an embarrassment and an Albatross. There's a reason why Youngkin is publicly running away from him while privately sucking him off.
 
2021-10-28 10:29:59 AM  

The Homer Tax: I fail to see how this is "trolling Democrats" at all?

"Hey, you should do a stupid thing."

"Well, maybe I will do that stupid thing!"

"Umm...ok great."

"LOL I TROLLED YOU!"


This isn't about trolling Democrats, it's about exciting his own base. And, when he fails to follow through, rather than condemn him for lying, they'll claim they knew that he was going to u-turn all along and praise him for his cleverness in tricking the opposition. Classic authoritarian move.
 
2021-10-28 10:31:44 AM  

Aquapope: wademh: Pocket Ninja: Trump showing up in Virginia on behalf of Youngkin would be the best single thing that could possibly happen for Terry McAuliffe. That would motivate the vast hordes of suburban voters, mostly apathetic but who loathe Trump, like nothing else and the race would go from being a toss-up to a blow-out overnight. I guess one of Trump's aides must have actually been able to talk some sense into him. Either that, or Youngkin paid a tidy under-table sum.

I think you're right, and I hope you're right. But mostly, I hope you're right and that TFG's failure to deliver in Virginia will be noticed far and wide. That people will recall Georgia Senate runoffs in context with TFG failing to help in Virginia. And that light bulbs will appear over more and more heads.

Not that the hard core GQP will abandon him, but it might help further fracture the GOP. They've been clamoring for a Civil War. They deserve and internal one.

Was there a big ol' internal house cleaning/civil war within the Nazi party before they really took off and took power?  Not snarky, I really don't know.  But I suspect there was a come-to-Adolf point where everybody in the party had to toe the same line, by force.  Sometime in the early 30s?


The answer is complex. Generally speaking, it was unnecessary. There's a myth that is popular among some German revisionists that there were many in the armed services that were actually pro-Germany but mostly anti-Hitler. That's been generally debunked.

The myth is rooted somewhat in the fact that through the 20s and into the 30s, there existed a separation between the military class and the government of Germany. Think of it in terms of would-be aristocrats holding on to the delusion that they were the true ruling class and were only temporarily allowing politicians to run mundane bureaucracies. The myths leverage that forward to pretend that these would-be aristocrats continued to hold themselves at distance from the politicians and that the Nazis were just the current politicians.

The problem with that is that they were all smitten by Nationalism and the myth of German superiority and sucked in Hitler's rhetoric. Those with the most Aristocratic self-image may have looked down on the man somewhat but they were aligned to his policies for the most part. And the ranks were full of those who were fully suckered into the cult of personality. Thus, no purge was really required because even those who didn't like the man tended to agree with his politics and saw value in using him to achieve their goals. Various individuals of course got burned in the "I didn't think the leopards would eat my face" but the same denials we see here can be seen back then there.
 
2021-10-28 10:33:24 AM  

Shaggy_C: The Homer Tax: I fail to see how this is "trolling Democrats" at all?

"Hey, you should do a stupid thing."

"Well, maybe I will do that stupid thing!"

"Umm...ok great."

"LOL I TROLLED YOU!"

This isn't about trolling Democrats, it's about exciting his own base. And, when he fails to follow through, rather than condemn him for lying, they'll claim they knew that he was going to u-turn all along and praise him for his cleverness in tricking the opposition. Classic authoritarian move.


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He really trolled the hell out of us that day. Eleventh dimensional chess.
 
2021-10-28 10:34:43 AM  
Well, COVID with leave you breathless.
 
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