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(Iowa Capital Dispatch)   Church: You say "ayahuasca," we say "Iowaska." IRS: Let's call the whole thing off   (iowacapitaldispatch.com) divider line
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2021-10-27 7:09:09 PM  
FTA: "an organ that no one speaks about at school or in private" and which is "secretly protected in the geometric center of your skull."

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2021-10-27 9:43:02 PM  
But hallucinogens are the only way religion ever worked. All religions.
 
2021-10-27 9:45:57 PM  
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2021-10-27 9:48:07 PM  
Elements of those plants have powerful hallucinogenic properties, which the church says can be used to awaken "the Third Eye" of its followers.

These cats must be living a semi charmed kind of life.
 
2021-10-27 9:49:46 PM  
If they think the IRS will accept this pathetic excuse for a religious exemption, they must be on drugs.
 
2021-10-27 9:52:11 PM  
TOOL - Third Eye (Audio)
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2021-10-27 9:55:03 PM  

Prof. Frink: If they think the IRS will accept this pathetic excuse for a religious exemption, they must be on drugs.


The head of the IRS is a Trumper, so they might accept it.
Depends on any other reason they might have to go after these guys.
 
2021-10-27 9:56:19 PM  
I partook a few times in Costa Rica with a great guide. I haven't done drugs in quite some time and normally stayed away from hallucinogens. Ayahuasca is one I would do again.

Are there any federally controlled substances that are exempted for religious purposes? I know peyote can be used in Native American ceremonies, but the reservation laws are their own thing.

How was this church even getting the stuff through customs? If there are trafficking charges coming down the pipe, they'll have bigger problems than their tax exempt status.
 
2021-10-27 10:05:15 PM  

bring to a festering boil: FTA: "an organ that no one speaks about at school or in private" and which is "secretly protected in the geometric center of your skull."

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2021-10-27 10:08:14 PM  
The Third Eye
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2021-10-27 10:12:23 PM  

Prof. Frink: If they think the IRS will accept this pathetic excuse for a religious exemption, they must be on drugs.


Yes, religious exemptions are supposed to be used for important things like discrimination against gays, hating trans people, deciding which birth control your employees can take, getting vaccinated, learning sex ed, paying taxes, participating in social security, providing health care to your children, firing unwed mothers, letting lesbians adopt children, and wearing masks.  There weren't supposed to be used for those weird brown people religions.
 
2021-10-27 10:18:56 PM  

mofa: But hallucinogens are the only way religion ever worked. All religions.


And most hallucinogens are freaking awesome therefore religions are...wait...what?!
 
2021-10-27 10:20:17 PM  

bring to a festering boil: FTA: "an organ that no one speaks about at school or in private" and which is "secretly protected in the geometric center of your skull."

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I saw that movie.

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2021-10-27 10:27:57 PM  
Tax all churches.

End this nonsense of religious exemption from taxation.

Don't even get me started on "those substances are bad, and you can't have them!" from chuckholes in power who quaff their Dewar's while burning through their second pack of Marlboros for the day....
 
2021-10-27 10:29:56 PM  
Kentucky Ayahuasca - VICE TV
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it's super weird to me that if a state is far right enough it seems to begin in some ways to bend so far it loops around over backwards toward individual liberties.  in some ways.  i guess that's what libertarians want to think being libertarian is about, i don't know.  these people would never see daylight again if they said "c'mon down to fun-time mind expansion camp and we'll teach you to say "damn the man!""  but because they are extremely careful to identify always as religious fanatics- which they may sincerely be for all i know,- then their religious freedom to lead guided meditations, by stoning seekers of personal truth to their vomit crusted gills, is protected.  and eff it, good for them.  i never knew it was a 'thing' of any size in other states, but i'm not surprised, and i'm not surprised that the laws vary widely.
 
2021-10-27 10:40:47 PM  
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R.I.P. FIGHTER HAYABUSA
 
2021-10-27 10:50:23 PM  
Iowaska - Vine Of Souls [2001] Full Album
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Well, this band seems perfect for the situation.
 
2021-10-27 10:52:32 PM  
First off, if you're gonna give some churches exemptions for drugs, or vaccines, or whatever, you can't be just saying "I don't like you so no drugs" to other churches.

Second off, lots of plants and animals make DMT. It apparently occurs in the brain as well (obviously not in high concentrations). DMT being schedule 1 is stupid, well, there being a schedule 1 is stupid, but it's particularly stupid in this case. Ayahuasca proper is from specific plants, but you can make ayahuasca like mixtures from many other plants. It is a mix of a plant with a MAO inhibitor and a plant that produces DMT, which turns out to be not hard to achieve. So claiming the ingredients for ayahuasca are particularly bad or "contain DMT" is idiotic. There are legal plants that "contain DMT" too.
 
2021-10-27 10:57:03 PM  
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One time I'm on the Amazon in my canoe and I see... swim the dolphin--the beautiful dolphin... so, I slip out of my canoe and I grab her, this fish, and then I f*** it, this fish!
 
2021-10-27 10:58:48 PM  
This church seems more legitimate than most evangelical churches in America. Seems like bullshiat to deny them this exemption if you allow it for the pathetic garbage heaps that pass for mainstream Christian churches. At least they are actually giving their members something in exchange for their money instead of just stealing it and raping their kids.
 
2021-10-27 11:14:25 PM  
Users are losers!
 
2021-10-27 11:29:22 PM  

Mnemia: This church seems more legitimate than most evangelical churches in America. Seems like bullshiat to deny them this exemption if you allow it for the pathetic garbage heaps that pass for mainstream Christian churches. At least they are actually giving their members something in exchange for their money instead of just stealing it and raping their kids.


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2021-10-27 11:29:47 PM  
There is no ska in Iowa, as this link proves.
 
2021-10-27 11:53:45 PM  
Iowaska is played with very large kazoos because the proper brass instruments were all traded for fried food.
 
2021-10-27 11:59:23 PM  
Alien Dreamtime - Space Time Continuum with Terence McKenna
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2021-10-28 12:42:48 AM  
The Reverend Weedlord Bonerhitler looks on with interest.
 
2021-10-28 1:11:05 AM  

mofa: Butt hallucinogens are the only way religion ever worked. All religions.


i usually just eat mine.
 
2021-10-28 1:48:12 AM  
When we finally tax churches, sure, let's go after the big guys, but let's not ignore these small-frys who are avoiding property taxes by establishing churches in houses. Get 'em, too!
 
2021-10-28 4:14:15 AM  

Ragin' Asian: I partook a few times in Costa Rica with a great guide. I haven't done drugs in quite some time and normally stayed away from hallucinogens. Ayahuasca is one I would do again.

Are there any federally controlled substances that are exempted for religious purposes? I know peyote can be used in Native American ceremonies, but the reservation laws are their own thing.

How was this church even getting the stuff through customs? If there are trafficking charges coming down the pipe, they'll have bigger problems than their tax exempt status.


Some tribes can use mushroom too I think in certain ways. I don't think salvia is illegal in the USA but it might be.
 
2021-10-28 8:55:37 AM  
Puscifer - Bullet Train to Iowa (Official Video)
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2021-10-28 10:57:55 AM  
I always thought my third eye was on my trouser snake.
 
2021-10-28 1:30:43 PM  

LordOfThePings: There is no ska in Iowa, as this link proves.


You must not have been around back in my day, when the Mediocre Superheroes were a thing.

{{No onion on my belt -- Iowa grows corn.}}
 
2021-10-28 5:20:15 PM  
I've understood how this works since 8th grade Civics.  Why does everyone think they're an exception?

The "freedom of religion" from the Bill of Rights means the government isn't allowed to tell you what is or isn't proper dogma or ritual or what have you in your church, or that your church isn't a church because it isn't the right church, etc.

It does not "miraculously" make exceptions to behavior that is already illegal or obviously not in the public interest (maskless choir practices during a respiratory pandemic, you're lucky the friggin' ATF didn't storm your rectory, 'cause they'd have been justified).

Wanna make the Church of Spongebob and make viewings a sacrament?  No problem, as long as you obey copyright regulations about public exhibitions.  Want to make ritual murder (hell, any kind of murder) or illegal narcotics a sacrament?  Go fish, that's not happening.
 
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