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(Fox 5 Las Vegas)   Why didn't the pedestrian cross the road during a crosswalk safety press conference to remind drivers that pedestrians have the right of way in crosswalks? Bonus appearance by the Crosswalk Fairy   (fox5vegas.com) divider line
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2021-10-27 7:05:52 PM  
Cameraman saved her life. Looks like she would have just kept walking and splat, on camera...
 
2021-10-27 7:10:48 PM  

Mr.Hawk: Cameraman saved her life. Looks like she would have just kept walking and splat, on camera...


two things:

1) as a pedestrian and obvious loser in the physics match up, you should watch for idiot drivers when you are walking in a road, regardless of right-of-way status

2) those blinking lights are not noticeable enough.

A) Friend got hit by a car while she was walking and was listed as being "at fault" for being sent to the hospital and damage to the car.  Apparently the police took a witness statement an hour after the accident that said it was my friends fault...on a Friday night...in a bar area.

She talked to our security at work for advice. The idea that a random witness waited around for an hour to give a statement is highly suspicious.   Fun fact: it cost her $65 to request the dash cam/body cam footage from the police involved.

/look both ways.
//look again
///keep looking
 
2021-10-27 7:15:22 PM  
That pedestrian had the right of way, the truck had the right of weight.
 
2021-10-27 7:16:44 PM  
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2021-10-27 7:16:51 PM  
Remember those ad campaigns with graphic images of teens being obliterated by semi trucks because they were texting while driving?

We need more of those, but for anyone who drives a car: the message should be: You're not a murderer, but today you will be, because you're stupid. Don't be stupid. Don't be a murderer.

We've been treating Pedestrians like Rape Victims (Don't walk at night. Wear the right kind of clothing. Stay in well-lit areas out of harms way, etc) for too damn long, it should be time to focus attention on the mother farkers with high clearance SUVs speeding and texting while driving that they need to be more responsible on the road.
 
2021-10-27 7:17:08 PM  
Quick math time. Semi weighs a bagillion pounds, is moving at 45 mph, so the required stopping distance is...carry the one...Put in a farking red light ffs!
 
2021-10-27 7:17:44 PM  

ng2810: Remember those ad campaigns with graphic images of teens being obliterated by semi trucks because they were texting while driving?


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2021-10-27 7:18:31 PM  

steklo: ng2810: Remember those ad campaigns with graphic images of teens being obliterated by semi trucks because they were texting while driving?

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Did she get her nuggets?
 
2021-10-27 7:19:31 PM  

supek: steklo: ng2810: Remember those ad campaigns with graphic images of teens being obliterated by semi trucks because they were texting while driving?

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Did she get her nuggets?


Yes, but no sauce.  NO SAUCE!
 
2021-10-27 7:20:58 PM  

derpes_simplex: supek: steklo: ng2810: Remember those ad campaigns with graphic images of teens being obliterated by semi trucks because they were texting while driving?

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Did she get her nuggets?

Yes, but no sauce.  NO SAUCE!


I figure she left some nuggets in her pants.
 
2021-10-27 7:24:02 PM  
Pedestrians don't always have the right of way. It's this mindset and propagated myth that gets people killed. It's called being "dead right":

Here lies xxxxx. He had right of way.
 
2021-10-27 7:25:39 PM  
The problem is mostly solved in my area (Toronto).  You hit the button to cross and a standard three light intersection sequence happens.  I think most have been changed over from sorta like the video (but with huge yellow lights and signs hung over the lanes) in my part of town anyway.
 
2021-10-27 7:25:49 PM  
I was once waiting for the light to change so I could cross the street and a group of teens approached from the other side of the street. All but one of them stopped. The one who did not stop just walked right through the intersection, causing one car to slam on his brakes to avoid hitting the young moran. When his friends yelled at him to get out of the street he yelled back at them, "They're not allowed to hit you." Every once in a while, usually when stories like this crop up, I wonder if he has yet learned the hard way about how silly his statement was.
 
2021-10-27 7:26:40 PM  

neilbradley: Pedestrians don't always have the right of way. It's this mindset and propagated myth that gets people killed. It's called being "dead right":

Here lies xxxxx. He had right of way.


Until the law says drivers can ram into cars, I don't understand your smug. WTF.
Seriously drivers treat everything else like the cars you manage to not ram into all the time everyday.
WTF.
Odd disconnect.  Ppl.
 
2021-10-27 7:28:22 PM  

Mock26: I was once waiting for the light to change so I could cross the street and a group of teens approached from the other side of the street. All but one of them stopped. The one who did not stop just walked right through the intersection, causing one car to slam on his brakes to avoid hitting the young moran. When his friends yelled at him to get out of the street he yelled back at them, "They're not allowed to hit you." Every once in a while, usually when stories like this crop up, I wonder if he has yet learned the hard way about how silly his statement was.


Was it about 30 years ago in FL? If so, sorry my bad!
 
2021-10-27 7:29:10 PM  

lilfry14: That pedestrian had the right of way, the truck had the right of weight.


Don't you mean right of weigh?
 
2021-10-27 7:30:00 PM  
I see a freshly sealed road with barely any visible crosswalk. I'd fight that ticket, even with those pathetic and puny flashing lights.
 
2021-10-27 7:30:30 PM  
If that were the tourist part of Vegas there'd be a bridge keeping the tourist money safe, but it's just an area for locals.
 
2021-10-27 7:30:36 PM  
As a frequent pedestrian, the number of people who blast across crosswalks without turning their head in either direction is astounding. My rule is that if they're approaching the crosswalk, I wait outside of their path of travel until they turn their head and slow down.
 
2021-10-27 7:31:44 PM  

neilbradley: It's this mindset and propagated myth that gets people killed.


Far more often, it's some idiot asshole fool  behind the wheel of a car.
 
2021-10-27 7:32:13 PM  
Not to defend the truck driver but that crosswalk didn't seem that safe to start with. My son's university has those type of lights. Speed limit is 35 and under (one crossing is at a traffic circle) so cars are going slow enough to notice those small flashing lights. It also helps that the road is narrower and crosswalks are well marked unlike those faded out stripes on the wider road that crosswalk is pasted on.
 
2021-10-27 7:33:17 PM  
I agree with the almost flattened pedestrian. The lights should be RED.
All drivers know a yellow light just means speed up to beat the red.
 
2021-10-27 7:33:38 PM  

waxbeans: neilbradley: Pedestrians don't always have the right of way. It's this mindset and propagated myth that gets people killed. It's called being "dead right":

Here lies xxxxx. He had right of way.

Until the law says drivers can ram into cars, I don't understand your smug. WTF.
Seriously drivers treat everything else like the cars you manage to not ram into all the time everyday.
WTF.
Odd disconnect.  Ppl.


That's one of the weirdest responses I could've envisioned to what I typed, but I'll bite.

The concept of "The pedestrian always has the right of way" gives people a false sense of security that they can walk out in to traffic any time they want and cars need to stop for them. This is not the case in most states. If they're in a crosswalk already and/or they have the light, they do have the right of way. When they don't have the light, they absolutely DO NOT have the right of way.

Even the woman in the video got the light and had the right of way, just started walking out without looking up road. This is precisely the situation that can happen when people don't look where they're going. Having "right of way" doesn't mean you should blindly just walk out in to traffic and hope everyone stops for you. I was taught to look both ways before crossing the street regardless of who has right of way and it has saved my ass on more than one occasion. The "pedestrian always has the right of way" mindset is precisely what causes people to think they can walk out into traffic without looking.

As a pedestrian, I don't give a fark who has right of way. I'm not going to win in a crosswalk contest with a 2 ton vehicle. I don't want to get injured. And no one else should, either. Laws don't stop physics. Do you want to be alive, or dead right? Doesn't seem like it's a tough choice.
 
2021-10-27 7:34:07 PM  

FloriduhGuy: Mock26: I was once waiting for the light to change so I could cross the street and a group of teens approached from the other side of the street. All but one of them stopped. The one who did not stop just walked right through the intersection, causing one car to slam on his brakes to avoid hitting the young moran. When his friends yelled at him to get out of the street he yelled back at them, "They're not allowed to hit you." Every once in a while, usually when stories like this crop up, I wonder if he has yet learned the hard way about how silly his statement was.

Was it about 30 years ago in FL? If so, sorry my bad!


Narp. It  was about 10 years ago in Illinois. I was not a driver, by the way, just another pedestrian.
 
2021-10-27 7:34:28 PM  

El_Dan: As a frequent pedestrian, the number of people who blast across crosswalks without turning their head in either direction is astounding. My rule is that if they're approaching the crosswalk, I wait outside of their path of travel until they turn their head and slow down.


But if you do that, they just keep going.  Without fail. Makes me want to start hitting the cars with a cain.
 
2021-10-27 7:34:42 PM  

jso2897: neilbradley: It's this mindset and propagated myth that gets people killed.

Far more often, it's some idiot asshole fool  behind the wheel of a car.


Absolutely. But ultimately it doesn't matter how or why it happens. Can't do shiat about it if you're dead. That's why it's prudent to never assume said idiot driver will stop, and too many people do.
 
2021-10-27 7:35:20 PM  
That crosswalk probably needs a HAWK signal.
 
2021-10-27 7:36:10 PM  

El_Dan: As a frequent pedestrian, the number of people who blast across crosswalks without turning their head in either direction is astounding. My rule is that if they're approaching the crosswalk, I wait outside of their path of travel until they turn their head and slow down.


Repeated for emphasis.
 
2021-10-27 7:36:37 PM  

jso2897: neilbradley: It's this mindset and propagated myth that gets people killed.

Far more often, it's some idiot asshole fool  behind the wheel of a car.


And the idiot assholes I see bolting across the street 50 feet before the farking crosswalk.
 
2021-10-27 7:38:30 PM  

neilbradley: Pedestrians don't always have the right of way. It's this mindset and propagated myth that gets people killed. It's called being "dead right":

Here lies xxxxx. He had right of way.


Um, legally they do have the right of way. Of course, practically speaking, it is better to stay alive than to exercise that right blindly.
 
2021-10-27 7:40:07 PM  

Watubi: I see a freshly sealed road with barely any visible crosswalk. I'd fight that ticket, even with those pathetic and puny flashing lights.


You'd think the fact that [hypothetical] you nearly killed someone would shame you into accepting the ticket, but no...
 
2021-10-27 7:41:05 PM  

neilbradley: waxbeans: neilbradley: Pedestrians don't always have the right of way. It's this mindset and propagated myth that gets people killed. It's called being "dead right":

Here lies xxxxx. He had right of way.

Until the law says drivers can ram into cars, I don't understand your smug. WTF.
Seriously drivers treat everything else like the cars you manage to not ram into all the time everyday.
WTF.
Odd disconnect.  Ppl.

That's one of the weirdest responses I could've envisioned to what I typed, but I'll bite.

The concept of "The pedestrian always has the right of way" gives people a false sense of security that they can walk out in to traffic any time they want and cars need to stop for them. This is not the case in most states. If they're in a crosswalk already and/or they have the light, they do have the right of way. When they don't have the light, they absolutely DO NOT have the right of way.

Even the woman in the video got the light and had the right of way, just started walking out without looking up road. This is precisely the situation that can happen when people don't look where they're going. Having "right of way" doesn't mean you should blindly just walk out in to traffic and hope everyone stops for you. I was taught to look both ways before crossing the street regardless of who has right of way and it has saved my ass on more than one occasion. The "pedestrian always has the right of way" mindset is precisely what causes people to think they can walk out into traffic without looking.

As a pedestrian, I don't give a fark who has right of way. I'm not going to win in a crosswalk contest with a 2 ton vehicle. I don't want to get injured. And no one else should, either. Laws don't stop physics. Do you want to be alive, or dead right? Doesn't seem like it's a tough choice.


Sure.  But. No.
Drivers need to be held responsible.
Looking first actually can cause death too.  Because it delays one from starting across the cross walk. Which makes drivers even more mad. The real problem is, drives don't like people on foot. Especially at a crosswalk.  I've had the light.  Been crossing and still had the light.  And people still drive really fast and close to me, as I clear the crosswalk.  There is something about driving that makes people be very ugly to people on foot.
That privileged feelings needs to be tempted by some jailings.  Seriously.  Because they can compensate for seconds lost to foot ppl. Foot people have to wait for the next light.
Also. You manage to not hit other cars. And when you do. Your held responsibility.
 
2021-10-27 7:44:00 PM  

waxbeans: El_Dan: As a frequent pedestrian, the number of people who blast across crosswalks without turning their head in either direction is astounding. My rule is that if they're approaching the crosswalk, I wait outside of their path of travel until they turn their head and slow down.

But if you do that, they just keep going.  Without fail. Makes me want to start hitting the cars with a cain.


I feel like most people stop. The ones that don't are stupid and shiatty people, which makes it an especially bad idea to bet your life on their judgment and reflexes.
 
2021-10-27 7:44:05 PM  
Crosswalk doesn't give you enough time to look three farking ways.
I have to assume at least one lane of waiting cars is going to respect the walk light. Otherwise I'm looking back and to the side and forward.
JFC.  Clearly none of you have crossed a four way intersection in a city of awful drivers.
 
2021-10-27 7:45:31 PM  

neilbradley: jso2897: neilbradley: It's this mindset and propagated myth that gets people killed.

Far more often, it's some idiot asshole fool  behind the wheel of a car.

Absolutely. But ultimately it doesn't matter how or why it happens. Can't do shiat about it if you're dead. That's why it's prudent to never assume said idiot driver will stop, and too many people do.


Hell, I keep watching the stopped car as I cross just in case the asshole decides to gun it for some crazy reason.
 
2021-10-27 7:51:35 PM  

ng2810: Remember those ad campaigns with graphic images of teens being obliterated by semi trucks because they were texting while driving?

We need more of those, but for anyone who drives a car: the message should be: You're not a murderer, but today you will be, because you're stupid. Don't be stupid. Don't be a murderer.

We've been treating Pedestrians like Rape Victims (Don't walk at night. Wear the right kind of clothing. Stay in well-lit areas out of harms way, etc) for too damn long, it should be time to focus attention on the mother farkers with high clearance SUVs speeding and texting while driving that they need to be more responsible on the road.


Turns out pedestrians are more maneuverable and in theory with more 360 awareness than cars.

That is unless they cross the street without looking and with their headphones on.

The Corner in Charlottesville is full of folks crossing without checking, sometimes from nearly blind cross areas.
 
2021-10-27 7:53:12 PM  
Police pulled over the truck driver, whose truck read Crete Carrier Corporation, and issued the driver a ticket for failure to yield to a pedestrian.

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Also, around here, we have a mixture of the yellow flashing crosswalks and crosswalks with a thing called a Pedestrian Hybrid Beacon.* The PHB has red lights, but because they go dark, rather than green, idiots around here will stay stopped at them. At least the PHB has full-size light lenses.

*Which has the same abbreviation as "Pointy Haired Boss" from Dilbert.
 
2021-10-27 7:54:21 PM  

El_Dan: I feel like most people stop. The ones that don't are stupid and shiatty people, which makes it an especially bad idea to bet your life on their judgment and reflexes.


I'd rather get hit. I don't have time to let 16 cars pass. I make people stop. Sure one day they will kill me. But. Till then, I've saved an hour.
And since I work for home.  I can't spare waiting for all those cars to not stop at the cross walk.
 
2021-10-27 7:55:28 PM  

Mock26: I was once waiting for the light to change so I could cross the street and a group of teens approached from the other side of the street. All but one of them stopped. The one who did not stop just walked right through the intersection, causing one car to slam on his brakes to avoid hitting the young moran. When his friends yelled at him to get out of the street he yelled back at them, "They're not allowed to hit you." Every once in a while, usually when stories like this crop up, I wonder if he has yet learned the hard way about how silly his statement was.


This is how they behaved in South Korea 20 years ago. They would literally just throw their hand up and step into the street and you BEST not hit them.  Crosswalks and intersections be damned.
 
2021-10-27 7:56:57 PM  

Watubi: I see a freshly sealed road with barely any visible crosswalk. I'd fight that ticket, even with those pathetic and puny flashing lights.


very poor linework.  what's with the width too?  from the angle of the driver, that black and white stripe will be more of a black and white dash
 
2021-10-27 7:57:07 PM  
When I'm crossing a road, be it in a crosswalk, major intersection, hell even a driveway, I'm always farking looking for cars and trucks. The only way I'm getting in front of a semi that isn't stopping is if I'm pushed from behind.
 
2021-10-27 7:58:27 PM  
The vast majority of the traditional crosswalks here have been replaced with standard traffic lights regardless of whether they are at an intersection or not. It is much more effective. It shouldn't be needed but I can't imagine the cost difference is that great.

My biggest issue where I used to live was there was one corner and the drivers waiting for the light to change would just gun it and try to get around a right turn before pedestrians could get into the lane. It was freaking ridiculous.
 
2021-10-27 8:00:26 PM  
Vehicles of any size require a certain amount of distance to stop. If you are about to walk across the street and you see the oncoming car traveling too fast to stop in time guess what? It's not going to stop in time.

If you're not willing to verify that the vehicle which might run you over is actually slowing down then you are on your own. This goes for people driving through intersections as well. Just because the cross traffic has a red light it does not mean they will stop. Trust but verify.
 
2021-10-27 8:03:36 PM  
How do people that stupid survive into adulthood? Seriously. She still needs an adult to hold her hand when crossing.
 
2021-10-27 8:13:26 PM  
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2021-10-27 8:17:01 PM  

waxbeans: neilbradley: waxbeans: neilbradley: Pedestrians don't always have the right of way. It's this mindset and propagated myth that gets people killed. It's called being "dead right":

Here lies xxxxx. He had right of way.

Until the law says drivers can ram into cars, I don't understand your smug. WTF.
Seriously drivers treat everything else like the cars you manage to not ram into all the time everyday.
WTF.
Odd disconnect.  Ppl.

That's one of the weirdest responses I could've envisioned to what I typed, but I'll bite.

The concept of "The pedestrian always has the right of way" gives people a false sense of security that they can walk out in to traffic any time they want and cars need to stop for them. This is not the case in most states. If they're in a crosswalk already and/or they have the light, they do have the right of way. When they don't have the light, they absolutely DO NOT have the right of way.

Even the woman in the video got the light and had the right of way, just started walking out without looking up road. This is precisely the situation that can happen when people don't look where they're going. Having "right of way" doesn't mean you should blindly just walk out in to traffic and hope everyone stops for you. I was taught to look both ways before crossing the street regardless of who has right of way and it has saved my ass on more than one occasion. The "pedestrian always has the right of way" mindset is precisely what causes people to think they can walk out into traffic without looking.

As a pedestrian, I don't give a fark who has right of way. I'm not going to win in a crosswalk contest with a 2 ton vehicle. I don't want to get injured. And no one else should, either. Laws don't stop physics. Do you want to be alive, or dead right? Doesn't seem like it's a tough choice.

Sure.  But. No.
Drivers need to be held responsible.
Looking first actually can cause death too.  Because it delays one from starting across the cross walk. Which makes drivers ...


I'll give everyone this as "exhibit A" to prove my point. I said nothing of drivers not being held responsible. They should be when they run afoul of the law. But when it's your life on the line, being "right" is a stupid. farking. call. It doesn't matter how many irresponsible drivers you jail, fine, etc... It's still going to happen no matter what you do. So how about prioritizing behaviors that keep people from getting killed, even if they're "right"? You "right of way" mindset folk are the reason people continue to die.
 
2021-10-27 8:17:41 PM  
Truck drivers have gotten downright homicidal in CO lately, you don't have to be a pedestrian in a crosswalk to know that.  I've been forced out of lanes and run off roads several times by truckers who don't give a shiat.  Had one on 70 about to crush my car because there wasn't room for me to move over.  I laid on the horn until he stopped trying to kill me and he flipped me off.
 
2021-10-27 8:37:34 PM  
Too bad she didn't have a gun - she could've gone "stand-your-ground" on his ass.
 
2021-10-27 8:50:35 PM  
If you're ever travelling in Wisconsin, remember that cows have the right of way on all highways.
 
2021-10-27 8:54:25 PM  
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