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(Rolling Stone)   For the twentieth anniversary today of "Donnie Darko," writer-director Richard Kelly explains the movie's meaning. Sometimes subby still doubts your commitment to Sparkle Motion   (rollingstone.com) divider line
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2021-10-26 6:57:34 PM  
Please explain how you suck a fark.
 
2021-10-26 6:57:53 PM  
I've often wondered what it's like to crawl up your own ass to smell your farts directly.
 
2021-10-26 6:58:38 PM  
A couple things about that movie.

1. It made me a fan of tears for fears
2. may have been the first movie that really turned me on to flicks that require repeated viewings, and can be looked at and thought about in a lot of different ways in terms of "what happened??".  It sparked a bunch of discussion with me and friends when it came out.

Its a pretty cool movie, and has a solid place in the early aughts movies that I still got some love for. I'll throw memento out as well as another that i turned to my roomate and went "wtf???" at.
 
2021-10-26 7:00:46 PM  
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2021-10-26 7:02:43 PM  

phedex: A couple things about that movie.

1. It made me a fan of tears for fears
2. may have been the first movie that really turned me on to flicks that require repeated viewings, and can be looked at and thought about in a lot of different ways in terms of "what happened??".  It sparked a bunch of discussion with me and friends when it came out.

Its a pretty cool movie, and has a solid place in the early aughts movies that I still got some love for. I'll throw memento out as well as another that i turned to my roomate and went "wtf???" at.


I remember watching it when it came out and wondering what all the fuss was about. I didn't think it was nearly as deep or interesting as others did. Not that I thought it was bad.

Still, I respect it for what you describe. There are a lot of people who gained a greater appreciation of film because of that movie, and it has led them to seek out and discuss great movies.

/ I haven't rewatched it since then. I might like it a lot if I watched it today.
 
2021-10-26 7:08:56 PM  
The only thing I can compare this to is Wes Anderson. There is no point but there is a feeling. The feeling is the point. And I love it.
 
2021-10-26 7:16:14 PM  

Jingle Strangle: Please explain how you suck a fark.


CHUT UP!
 
2021-10-26 7:21:18 PM  
For millennials, and more urgently for Gen Z, there's a keen awareness that the world might end at a moment's notice

Oh, I'm sorry. I guess Gen-X never once felt that the world might end at a moment's notice.
 
2021-10-26 7:21:43 PM  
Feed gremlins after midnight, piss into the wind, tug on supermans cape.
Do whatever you want to do.

But DO NOT WATCH the sequel to this movie.
 
2021-10-26 7:22:04 PM  

phedex: May have been the first movie that really turned me on to flicks that require repeated viewings, and can be looked at and thought about in a lot of different ways in terms of "what happened??"


Agreed. That being said... I watched it the first time in it's regular theatrical version, and was, as you were, I think, flummoxed but fascinated. The second time I watched it was the director's cut, with scenes added, IIRC, for clarity. That, oddly, made it less interesting--if easier to follow. I feel like the mystery really added something to the original film.
 
2021-10-26 7:22:24 PM  

Garza and the Supermutants: For millennials, and more urgently for Gen Z, there's a keen awareness that the world might end at a moment's notice

Oh, I'm sorry. I guess Gen-X never once felt that the world might end at a moment's notice.


I mean... we were hoping it would.
/still might
 
2021-10-26 8:00:43 PM  
"That is not to take away any interpretation that people have of the film, which I think is valid because the way it's engineered, you can have any interpretation you want of the first 90% of the movie."

Got it.  The meaning of the movie is that it means whatever you want it to at any given moment.  This is the best type of movie because it allows you to feel superior to anyone you talk to because, "They just don't get it".
 
2021-10-26 8:07:35 PM  
It's not that confusing. He accepts his death so his girlfriend will live. Although the main plot of the movie is not the appeal. It's like The Big Lebowski, where the main plot doesn't matter so much, it's more about the characters and the individual scenes.
 
2021-10-26 8:14:24 PM  

Garza and the Supermutants: For millennials, and more urgently for Gen Z, there's a keen awareness that the world might end at a moment's notice

Oh, I'm sorry. I guess Gen-X never once felt that the world might end at a moment's notice.


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Now why would you say that?
 
2021-10-26 8:19:04 PM  
MurphyMurphy:

The fight club graphic novel money grab is better.
 
2021-10-26 8:21:45 PM  
The first time I watched that movie I was on acid at like 2am at my buddy's house.  We immediately played it again afterward.  That was a fun night.
 
2021-10-26 8:29:24 PM  

Garza and the Supermutants: For millennials, and more urgently for Gen Z, there's a keen awareness that the world might end at a moment's notice

Oh, I'm sorry. I guess Gen-X never once felt that the world might end at a moment's notice.


And Boomers know nothing about nuclear annihilation anxiety.
 
2021-10-26 8:40:03 PM  

dionysusaur: Garza and the Supermutants: For millennials, and more urgently for Gen Z, there's a keen awareness that the world might end at a moment's notice

Oh, I'm sorry. I guess Gen-X never once felt that the world might end at a moment's notice.

And Boomers know nothing about nuclear annihilation anxiety.


Yeah, but the could survive it by hiding under the desk.  By the time it rolled our to Gen-X kids, it was why bother, we're all toast.
 
2021-10-26 9:03:28 PM  

A Screaming Man with Two-Toned Shoes: phedex: May have been the first movie that really turned me on to flicks that require repeated viewings, and can be looked at and thought about in a lot of different ways in terms of "what happened??"

Agreed. That being said... I watched it the first time in it's regular theatrical version, and was, as you were, I think, flummoxed but fascinated. The second time I watched it was the director's cut, with scenes added, IIRC, for clarity. That, oddly, made it less interesting--if easier to follow. I feel like the mystery really added something to the original film.


A good editor with veto power over the director is worth their weight in gold.
 
2021-10-26 9:10:26 PM  
I remember listening to Kelly's director's commentary on the dvd (before the director's cut was released).  One thing was clear, he had no idea what he was trying to say story wise.

It's still an enjoyable film though.
 
2021-10-26 9:10:51 PM  

phedex: A couple things about that movie.

1. It made me a fan of tears for fears
2. may have been the first movie that really turned me on to flicks that require repeated viewings, and can be looked at and thought about in a lot of different ways in terms of "what happened??".  It sparked a bunch of discussion with me and friends when it came out.

Its a pretty cool movie, and has a solid place in the early aughts movies that I still got some love for. I'll throw memento out as well as another that i turned to my roomate and went "wtf???" at.


That and Memento, which ironically seems to have been forgotten over time despite being a cult hit pretty quickly after it hit DVD.
 
2021-10-26 9:16:06 PM  

AuralArgument: MurphyMurphy:

The fight club graphic novel money grab is better.


I farking loved that one.  As soon as the punchline hit I fell over laughing because all the ridiculous plot threads suddenly made perfect sense. Chuck wrote the damn thing just to make fun of all the idiots who thought Durden was the good guy.
 
2021-10-26 9:48:07 PM  

RogermcAllen: "That is not to take away any interpretation that people have of the film, which I think is valid because the way it's engineered, you can have any interpretation you want of the first 90% of the movie."

Got it.  The meaning of the movie is that it means whatever you want it to at any given moment.  This is the best type of movie because it allows you to feel superior to anyone you talk to because, "They just don't get it".


I'm the only person who really gets "Roadhouse."
 
2021-10-26 9:55:02 PM  

dionysusaur: Garza and the Supermutants: For millennials, and more urgently for Gen Z, there's a keen awareness that the world might end at a moment's notice

Oh, I'm sorry. I guess Gen-X never once felt that the world might end at a moment's notice.

And Boomers know nothing about nuclear annihilation anxiety.


Yeah...what would Boomers know about that?

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433 [TotalFark]
2021-10-26 10:06:05 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: That and Memento, which ironically seems to have been forgotten over time despite being a cult hit pretty quickly after it hit DVD.


It's not exactly forgotten, maybe.  It's just not worth multiple viewings.  It's just like Usual Suspects.  You only need to watch it once, or possibly twice.  After that, it's just a trick film, and trick films tend not to have a long shelf-life.
 
2021-10-26 10:11:30 PM  

433: Incorrigible Astronaut: That and Memento, which ironically seems to have been forgotten over time despite being a cult hit pretty quickly after it hit DVD.

It's not exactly forgotten, maybe.  It's just not worth multiple viewings.  It's just like Usual Suspects.  You only need to watch it once, or possibly twice.  After that, it's just a trick film, and trick films tend not to have a long shelf-life.


Aside from Spacey not aging well, I think The Usual Suspects holds up to
multiple viewings. The reveal at the end is what the screenplay hinges on, but the rest of it is still cool as a general crime caper.
 
2021-10-26 10:15:35 PM  
My friends and I ate space cake and did a double feature of Donnie Darko and Bubble Boy on two separate TVs simultaneously. Seemed like a good idea at the time.
 
2021-10-26 10:16:29 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: phedex: A couple things about that movie.

1. It made me a fan of tears for fears
2. may have been the first movie that really turned me on to flicks that require repeated viewings, and can be looked at and thought about in a lot of different ways in terms of "what happened??".  It sparked a bunch of discussion with me and friends when it came out.

Its a pretty cool movie, and has a solid place in the early aughts movies that I still got some love for. I'll throw memento out as well as another that i turned to my roomate and went "wtf???" at.

That and Memento, which ironically seems to have been forgotten over time despite being a cult hit pretty quickly after it hit DVD.


There was a solid year of Fark where every single comment thread had a string of references to Donnie Darko or Memento.  I'll go with 2005-ish.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2021-10-26 10:19:27 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Aside from Spacey not aging well, I think The Usual Suspects holds up to
multiple viewings. The reveal at the end is what the screenplay hinges on, but the rest of it is still cool as a general crime caper.


Heh.  I knew someone would be on me pretty quick about The Usual Suspects. I think you are right about the half of the movie that's more like a caper.  It's directed so well that repeat viewings are ok.  Personally I'd rather watch something else, I hope you understood what I was getting at, though.
 
2021-10-26 10:25:25 PM  

433: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Aside from Spacey not aging well, I think The Usual Suspects holds up to
multiple viewings. The reveal at the end is what the screenplay hinges on, but the rest of it is still cool as a general crime caper.

Heh.  I knew someone would be on me pretty quick about The Usual Suspects. I think you are right about the half of the movie that's more like a caper.  It's directed so well that repeat viewings are ok.  Personally I'd rather watch something else, I hope you understood what I was getting at, though.


Yeah, I get that. I just think it works as a rewatchable film despite being known for a surprise ending. Maybe it just hits that 90s nostalgia button for me.
 
2021-10-26 10:28:15 PM  

433: Incorrigible Astronaut: That and Memento, which ironically seems to have been forgotten over time despite being a cult hit pretty quickly after it hit DVD.

It's not exactly forgotten, maybe.  It's just not worth multiple viewings.  It's just like Usual Suspects.  You only need to watch it once, or possibly twice.  After that, it's just a trick film, and trick films tend not to have a long shelf-life.


Shiat like that will flip ya. Flip ya fer real.
 
2021-10-26 10:29:26 PM  

A Screaming Man with Two-Toned Shoes: phedex: May have been the first movie that really turned me on to flicks that require repeated viewings, and can be looked at and thought about in a lot of different ways in terms of "what happened??"

Agreed. That being said... I watched it the first time in it's regular theatrical version, and was, as you were, I think, flummoxed but fascinated. The second time I watched it was the director's cut, with scenes added, IIRC, for clarity. That, oddly, made it less interesting--if easier to follow. I feel like the mystery really added something to the original film.


That was the movie that made me realize that sometimes, the director does not know best.

Donnie Darko's DC sucks.
 
2021-10-26 10:38:19 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Aside from Spacey not aging well, I think The Usual Suspects holds up to
multiple viewings. The reveal at the end is what the screenplay hinges on, but the rest of it is still cool as a general crime caper.


The Usual Suspects was a good film but what was farked up about it was the climax before the climax, the misdirection scene when Keaton (Gabriel Byrne) was shown to be Kaisar Soze. The music comes up, there's a montage and the audience is supposed to say "Oh shiat, it was him!" except for some reason they showed Keaton getting killed in the first scene of the film so that was kind of ruined.

It's like in Basic Instinct, when Jeane Tripplehorn was supposed to be the killer. Except in the very first scene. when the naked but faceless girl kills the guy, Jeane and Sharon Stone have very different boobs, so Sharon was obviously the killer.
 
2021-10-26 10:46:07 PM  

Mugato: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Aside from Spacey not aging well, I think The Usual Suspects holds up to
multiple viewings. The reveal at the end is what the screenplay hinges on, but the rest of it is still cool as a general crime caper.

The Usual Suspects was a good film but what was farked up about it was the climax before the climax, the misdirection scene when Keaton (Gabriel Byrne) was shown to be Kaisar Soze. The music comes up, there's a montage and the audience is supposed to say "Oh shiat, it was him!" except for some reason they showed Keaton getting killed in the first scene of the film so that was kind of ruined.

It's like in Basic Instinct, when Jeane Tripplehorn was supposed to be the killer. Except in the very first scene. when the naked but faceless girl kills the guy, Jeane and Sharon Stone have very different boobs, so Sharon was obviously the killer.


Oh there's some really dumb shiat that happens in that film, not to mention the convoluted twist. The worst scene for me is the parking garage heist and when they linger on Spacey after they reveal him shooting the guys in the van. They might as well have just thrown a graphics on screen announcing his character as Soze.
 
2021-10-26 10:47:49 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: 433: Incorrigible Astronaut: That and Memento, which ironically seems to have been forgotten over time despite being a cult hit pretty quickly after it hit DVD.

It's not exactly forgotten, maybe.  It's just not worth multiple viewings.  It's just like Usual Suspects.  You only need to watch it once, or possibly twice.  After that, it's just a trick film, and trick films tend not to have a long shelf-life.

Aside from Spacey not aging well, I think The Usual Suspects holds up to
multiple viewings. The reveal at the end is what the screenplay hinges on, but the rest of it is still cool as a general crime caper.


I don't see how that's possible considering 80-90% of it didn't happen.
 
2021-10-26 10:57:00 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I'm the only person who really gets "Roadhouse."


Pfft, it's obvious that movie is an allegory about the fall of the Qing Dynasty.
 
2021-10-26 10:57:21 PM  

Adebisi: I don't see how that's possible considering 80-90% of it didn't happen.


It's a trope called the "unreliable narrator". Really the appeal of the film wasn't the story but the performances and then the twist at the end, which was repeated and played out by the end of the 90s.
 
2021-10-26 10:59:55 PM  

Mugato: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Aside from Spacey not aging well, I think The Usual Suspects holds up to
multiple viewings. The reveal at the end is what the screenplay hinges on, but the rest of it is still cool as a general crime caper.

The Usual Suspects was a good film but what was farked up about it was the climax before the climax, the misdirection scene when Keaton (Gabriel Byrne) was shown to be Kaisar Soze. The music comes up, there's a montage and the audience is supposed to say "Oh shiat, it was him!" except for some reason they showed Keaton getting killed in the first scene of the film so that was kind of ruined.

It's like in Basic Instinct, when Jeane Tripplehorn was supposed to be the killer. Except in the very first scene. when the naked but faceless girl kills the guy, Jeane and Sharon Stone have very different boobs, so Sharon was obviously the killer.


Dude, spoilers!  Reported!
 
2021-10-26 11:04:22 PM  

wingnut396: dionysusaur: Garza and the Supermutants: For millennials, and more urgently for Gen Z, there's a keen awareness that the world might end at a moment's notice

Oh, I'm sorry. I guess Gen-X never once felt that the world might end at a moment's notice.

And Boomers know nothing about nuclear annihilation anxiety.

Yeah, but the could survive it by hiding under the desk.  By the time it rolled our to Gen-X kids, it was why bother, we're all toast.


The only thing that saved us, me and you, was that the Russians loved their children too.
 
2021-10-26 11:05:13 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Mugato: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Aside from Spacey not aging well, I think The Usual Suspects holds up to
multiple viewings. The reveal at the end is what the screenplay hinges on, but the rest of it is still cool as a general crime caper.

The Usual Suspects was a good film but what was farked up about it was the climax before the climax, the misdirection scene when Keaton (Gabriel Byrne) was shown to be Kaisar Soze. The music comes up, there's a montage and the audience is supposed to say "Oh shiat, it was him!" except for some reason they showed Keaton getting killed in the first scene of the film so that was kind of ruined.

It's like in Basic Instinct, when Jeane Tripplehorn was supposed to be the killer. Except in the very first scene. when the naked but faceless girl kills the guy, Jeane and Sharon Stone have very different boobs, so Sharon was obviously the killer.

Dude, spoilers!  Reported!


Statue of limitations on spoilers has run out.

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2021-10-26 11:09:25 PM  

Mugato: Nana's Vibrator: Mugato: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Aside from Spacey not aging well, I think The Usual Suspects holds up to
multiple viewings. The reveal at the end is what the screenplay hinges on, but the rest of it is still cool as a general crime caper.

The Usual Suspects was a good film but what was farked up about it was the climax before the climax, the misdirection scene when Keaton (Gabriel Byrne) was shown to be Kaisar Soze. The music comes up, there's a montage and the audience is supposed to say "Oh shiat, it was him!" except for some reason they showed Keaton getting killed in the first scene of the film so that was kind of ruined.

It's like in Basic Instinct, when Jeane Tripplehorn was supposed to be the killer. Except in the very first scene. when the naked but faceless girl kills the guy, Jeane and Sharon Stone have very different boobs, so Sharon was obviously the killer.

Dude, spoilers!  Reported!

Statue of limitations on spoilers has run out.

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Was that made from real bologna
 
2021-10-26 11:43:07 PM  

Mugato: Adebisi: I don't see how that's possible considering 80-90% of it didn't happen.

It's a trope called the "unreliable narrator". Really the appeal of the film wasn't the story but the performances and then the twist at the end, which was repeated and played out by the end of the 90s.


I would add - and I'm not sure if I'm agreeing or disagreeing with you - that the interplay between what we hear from the unreliable narrator and what we know from the other characters to be true, there are enough  common elements there that make trying to suss out the "truth" of the story both more entertaining and more frustrating (I would argue in a good way).
 
2021-10-26 11:57:15 PM  

phlegmjay: Mugato: Adebisi: I don't see how that's possible considering 80-90% of it didn't happen.

It's a trope called the "unreliable narrator". Really the appeal of the film wasn't the story but the performances and then the twist at the end, which was repeated and played out by the end of the 90s.

I would add - and I'm not sure if I'm agreeing or disagreeing with you - that the interplay between what we hear from the unreliable narrator and what we know from the other characters to be true, there are enough  common elements there that make trying to suss out the "truth" of the story both more entertaining and more frustrating (I would argue in a good way).


Maybe everything happened like he said but he just made up the names, which. makes sense.
 
2021-10-27 12:07:00 AM  
i first saw this years after it came out, alone at home in the dark like a binge drinker.  and like a binge drinker waking up still drunk, i watched it with the sound off.  it was genius.  best movie ever.  so deep.  later i rewatched it with the sound on.  it was ok.  so that, when i look for it every few years right around now, i have to choose between getting to skip the meh dialog and having to miss out on the excellent soundtrack.
 
2021-10-27 12:18:59 AM  
I have still not watched Donnie darko.  I watched parts of it a couple times and found it boring.  Of course I've also never been able to sit through the godfather.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2021-10-27 12:52:24 AM  

AquaTatanka: I have still not watched Donnie darko.  I watched parts of it a couple times and found it boring.  Of course I've also never been able to sit through the godfather.


Let me save you some time.  Donnie Darko is not actually a good movie, it's just Fight Club for weeping teens who don't cut themselves.... another slice of pizza!
 
2021-10-27 2:04:45 AM  

433: Let me save you some time.  Donnie Darko is not actually a good movie, it's just Fight Club for weeping teens who don't cut themselves.... another slice of pizza!



I think we should urge more teens to cut themselves....another slice of cheesecake!
 
2021-10-27 2:34:08 AM  

Mugato: It's like in Basic Instinct, when Jeane Tripplehorn was supposed to be the killer. Except in the very first scene. when the naked but faceless girl kills the guy, Jeane and Sharon Stone have very different boobs, so Sharon was obviously the killer.


OMG SPOILERS
 
433 [TotalFark]
2021-10-27 2:50:07 AM  

Caelistis: 433: Let me save you some time.  Donnie Darko is not actually a good movie, it's just Fight Club for weeping teens who don't cut themselves.... another slice of pizza!


I think we should urge more teens to cut themselves....another slice of cheesecake!


Are we members of the same denim supply company?  Bigger teens means bigger profits!
 
2021-10-27 3:02:14 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: For millennials, and more urgently for Gen Z, there's a keen awareness that the world might end at a moment's notice

Oh, I'm sorry. I guess Gen-X never once felt that the world might end at a moment's notice.


Boomers and Gen-X knew how the world would end, or thought they did - at the point of a Russian missile.

Later generations have been born into a sense that death will explode suddenly from peace, out of seemingly nowhere. An IED, a shooter, a terrorist attack, a pandemic, a Trump.
 
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