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(Slate)   "My 11 year-old daughter was home alone; she's been great in the pandemic. I came home to find her not wearing a mask, not social distancing, and sharing chips with a friend. I made her quarantine; how do I get over this breach of trust and safety?"   (slate.com) divider line
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2021-10-25 11:30:34 PM  
Poor kid
 
2021-10-25 11:43:37 PM  
73 million children in the US and significantly fewer than 1,000 have died from this.  About three times as many as died of the flu each year, barely more than the number that were dying of flu over two years in the Before Times (look ma, no mask, etc).  So, first, stop making yourselves miserable with fear.

I say that from a position of sympathy, I have a 10 year old.  Stop freaking out, think about it the way you'd think of any risk at a similar level of threat.  Take it seriously but don't develop a complex, or leave your kid with one.

It's not like she was drinking and driving.  Ground her for a week or something.

Man, almost all of our kids are going to easily live through this, then be train wrecks.
 
2021-10-25 11:48:17 PM  
and it's challenging for kids to watch the trusted authorities in their lives relax their own protocols around socializing

While still at greater risk than the kid (almost certainly, depending on the adult's age & condition), even vaccinated.  Stop farking up your poor kids.  I now know 7 dead vaccinated adults, several more knocked on the door.  Kids?  None.  Nice work, Slate.
 
2021-10-25 11:59:49 PM  
WTF, she's 11.  She's not the one with poor judgment
 
2021-10-26 1:00:06 AM  
First its chips, then drinks, then Netflix

and then it will be fondu-ing
 
2021-10-26 4:21:48 AM  
You had potato chips in the house?!? What kind of farking animal are you?  What's next - Jeno's pizza rolls?  Take that poor girl into social care immediately, before it's too late!
 
2021-10-26 4:26:02 AM  

Only You Can See This: You had potato chips in the house?!? What kind of farking animal are you?  What's next - Jeno's pizza rolls?  Take that poor girl into social care immediately, before it's too late!


Did she microwave the pizza rolls instead of using the oven?

OH NOES!!!!
 
2021-10-26 4:26:39 AM  
What is that parent's Fark handle?
 
2021-10-26 5:05:50 AM  
She's 11.  Give her a break.  Explain to her what she did wrong and make her state the promise that she won't do it again.

Don't give her a line to repeat.  Inspire her to conceive it and compose it herself.

Then give her a hug.
 
2021-10-26 5:35:31 AM  
I feel bad for this kid as her awful parents are going to ruin her. Children are not dying from COVID in any significant numbers; she is far more likely to die in traffic on her way to school than from COVID.
 
2021-10-26 5:50:28 AM  
Children begin by loving their parents.  Later, they judge them. Sometimes, they forgive them.
 
2021-10-26 6:15:13 AM  
"Dear Daughter, kick your idiot mother to the curb and continue doing what you're doing. Next year, get vaccinated. You'll be fine."
 
2021-10-26 6:36:26 AM  

Only You Can See This: Children begin by loving their parents.  Later, they judge them. Sometimes, they forgive them.


Sometimes.
Sometimes the parents never realize that you are an adult now and you have to abandon them.
 
2021-10-26 7:06:21 AM  
Give it another few years.

Worrying about sharing chips will be a quaint memory.
 
2021-10-26 7:44:53 AM  

Gyrfalcon: "Dear Daughter, kick your idiot mother to the curb and continue doing what you're doing. Next year, get vaccinated. You'll be fine."


Hell, the 5-11 should be approved today or tomorrow. So close.
 
2021-10-26 7:48:04 AM  

holdmybones: Hell, the 5-11 should be approved today or tomorrow. So close.


I've been hearing that since August...
 
2021-10-26 7:55:02 AM  

BMFPitt: holdmybones: Hell, the 5-11 should be approved today or tomorrow. So close.

I've been hearing that since August...


There's a meeting today and the White House laid out their plans for distribution a couple of days ago. It should start first week of Nov (if approved).

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19​-​vaccine-kids-ages-5-11-fda-advisers-vo​te/
 
2021-10-26 8:00:29 AM  

Naido: 73 million children in the US and significantly fewer than 1,000 have died from this.  About three times as many as died of the flu each year, barely more than the number that were dying of flu over two years in the Before Times (look ma, no mask, etc).  So, first, stop making yourselves miserable with fear.

I say that from a position of sympathy, I have a 10 year old.  Stop freaking out, think about it the way you'd think of any risk at a similar level of threat.  Take it seriously but don't develop a complex, or leave your kid with one.

It's not like she was drinking and driving.  Ground her for a week or something.

Man, almost all of our kids are going to easily live through this, then be train wrecks.


Meanwhile, from the world of Long Covid:

Evidence from the first study of long covid in children suggests that more than half of children aged between 6 and 16 years old who contract the virus have at least one symptom lasting more than 120 days, with 42.6 per cent impaired by these symptoms during daily activities.

But they'll be fine, I guess.
 
2021-10-26 8:01:54 AM  
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2021-10-26 8:03:51 AM  
Lighten-up Francis.
She's a kid. They make mistakes.
 
2021-10-26 8:08:19 AM  
I'm still trying to figure out the "her other parent" line.

But also, you know how you know it's fake?
11 year olds don't pour chips into a bowl to share on the couch.
 
2021-10-26 8:24:33 AM  

buntz: I'm still trying to figure out the "her other parent" line.

But also, you know how you know it's fake?
11 year olds don't pour chips into a bowl to share on the couch.


You haven't been around enough rich kids.  Like the kind of folks that write for/to Slate.
 
2021-10-26 8:38:31 AM  
I guess this all depends on the other kid's circumstances and whether you're in a plague rat region or a civilized area.

If the other kid is normally following all protocols and has non-idiot (or in other words, vaccinated) parents, then you can consider her to be part of your bubble (unless, of course, there are outstanding circumstances, like a close family member who is highly vulnerable).
 
2021-10-26 8:57:24 AM  
A few days in the Shame Closet should do it. Don't forget the spiders.
 
2021-10-26 9:05:41 AM  
Everybody relax, an 11 year old daughter is at most 3 years away from making the parent regret ever having been born. Physics/nature/karma will have its revenge on this, and then some.
 
2021-10-26 9:30:18 AM  
Admit that you've failed completely as a parent, make peace with your deity/karma/uncaring screaming void of choice, and commit seppuku in remorse.

Or just chill the fark out.
 
2021-10-26 9:34:35 AM  

Almea Tarrant: Admit that you've failed completely as a parent, make peace with your deity/karma/uncaring screaming void of choice, and commit seppuku in remorse.

Or just chill the fark out.


I prefer a crossword puzzle myself.
 
2021-10-26 9:57:21 AM  

Naido: 73 million children in the US and significantly fewer than 1,000 have died from this.  About three times as many as died of the flu each year, barely more than the number that were dying of flu over two years in the Before Times (look ma, no mask, etc).  So, first, stop making yourselves miserable with fear.

I say that from a position of sympathy, I have a 10 year old.  Stop freaking out, think about it the way you'd think of any risk at a similar level of threat.  Take it seriously but don't develop a complex, or leave your kid with one.

It's not like she was drinking and driving.  Ground her for a week or something.

Man, almost all of our kids are going to easily live through this, then be train wrecks.


I think we can check that one off the list.
 
2021-10-26 10:17:10 AM  

SoundOfOneHandWanking: WTF, she's 11.  She's not the one with poor judgment


At 11 or 12 is when we started letting our children stay home alone for short periods and that was sure common when I was 11 or 12 over 40 years ago. That said, I'd be equally upset to come home and see my child let a friend come over without permission
 
2021-10-26 11:05:09 AM  
With all of the adults in the child's life vaccinated the actual risk to her is about the same as dying in a traffic accident.

This really is all about the numbers. Covid is here to stay. It will be endemic forever - just like influenza. While the flu kills 30-60k Americans every (mostly older folks) we are mostly used to it. We have accepted the risk to our lives. Get a flu shot every year to minimize your personal odds and then go out and live your life.

Covid is going to be and probably should be just like that. The difference is that Covid is inherently more dangerous than the flu. The annual death toll going forward in the US from Covid will be somewhere between 100-300k. Immunity wains pretty fast after vaccination / infection so plan on getting your flu+Covid booster every year for the rest of your life.
 
2021-10-26 11:15:58 AM  
Accept you have a child?

Pull out the jumper-cables?
Ground them for life?
Change the internet passwords?
Take away the phone?
Have a conversation about responsibility?
Make her put on a sandwich board and stand in the middle of a busy intersection with it captioned "I lied to Mom"?
 
2021-10-26 11:40:03 AM  
This may be the rare exception where butt stuff is not the answer.
 
2021-10-26 11:53:52 AM  
The only people who think 11 is grown up are children, so this parent needs to grow the fark up.
 
2021-10-26 11:56:39 AM  
I live in Alabama, home of the stupid.
My daughter is a senior in highschool.
Homecoming was two weeks ago.
One of her classmate's parents owns a large, partially wooded lot off of a county road north of town. After the dance there was an unsupervised party there, with alcohol and music. 450 juniors and seniors attended. 450. Masks? Yeah right. Social distancing? Fark no. Vaccinated? Around 30%.

The 11 year old girl from TFA. Give her farking medal.
 
2021-10-26 12:49:00 PM  

madgonad: With all of the adults in the child's life vaccinated the actual risk to her is about the same as dying in a traffic accident.

This really is all about the numbers. Covid is here to stay. It will be endemic forever - just like influenza. While the flu kills 30-60k Americans every (mostly older folks) we are mostly used to it. We have accepted the risk to our lives. Get a flu shot every year to minimize your personal odds and then go out and live your life.

Covid is going to be and probably should be just like that. The difference is that Covid is inherently more dangerous than the flu. The annual death toll going forward in the US from Covid will be somewhere between 100-300k. Immunity wains pretty fast after vaccination / infection so plan on getting your flu+Covid booster every year for the rest of your life.


I am sure many of the sad sacks here will be wearing masks for the rest of their worthless lives.
 
2021-10-26 12:54:23 PM  
Why drink the purple stuff when there's Sunny-D in the fridge?
 
2021-10-26 12:56:06 PM  
WTF lady?  The issue is her having a friend over when nobody was home, ffs.  That's the only thing that would have bothered me in that situation.

An 11 year old isn't going to be hyper aware of their mortality as you apparently are, take a breath, and a 1/5 of rum and calm the fark down.
 
2021-10-26 1:15:09 PM  

Unknown Subject: This really I am sure many of the sad sacks here will be wearing masks for the rest of their worthless lives.


Why don't you make yourself useful and cut some pizzas with all that edge.
 
2021-10-26 1:22:54 PM  
I can't believe I am only the second person writing this: this letter is so obviously fake it was probably a rejected parody article that got re-purposed because it's SOOO close enough to being real that legit parody sites wouldn't run it.  Do you really think anyone would write to Slate and admit they sequestered their kid in their bedroom for two weeks for incidental contact? And the paragraph ended with "Luckily, we all came out of this debacle safely." That's the author telling you it's a parody.  I think it's called a stinger or something.

I used to write for The Duffel Blog (which is like The Onion for the military) and the owner of the site told me I couldn't ramp up the ridiculousness slowly because people only read the first paragraph or two (or just the headline) and miss the "stinger" telling them this is all completely made-up, and then congress members will get letters, and then he gets a letter and then it's a whole thing.  As an example, when I was in Iraq, I wrote an article that the 1st ID or maybe 82nd guys who were there (this was OIR 1 so there were maybe 1500 of us) couldn't carry ammunition as a way to show we trusted our Iraqi partners to protect us from DAESH. That was the title and the first paragraph. Then in subsequent paragraphs, I got more and more ridiculous so by the time you get to the end you say, "Oooooh.  This is a parody." The site owner shredded the article and said that even a well-written parody about that would fool enough servicemembers' families there'd be congressionals out the A.

Note in the letter how the LW starts out reasonable, then gets a little more silly, then SEQUESTERS HER DAUGHTER FOR TWO WEEKS and the paragraph ends with "Luckily we go out of this debacle safely." There's your stinger. This was probably written for the Babylon Bee or some troll picked up parody writing tips from similar sites but then wanted to get a-trolling. This was probably written for the Babylon Bee or some troll picked up parody writing tips from similar sites but then wanted to get a-trolling.
 
2021-10-26 1:35:44 PM  

BMFPitt: holdmybones: Hell, the 5-11 should be approved today or tomorrow. So close.

I've been hearing that since August...


The FDA committee is meeting today to consider Pfizer's application for 5-11. Unless something unexpected happens authorization should come within a week or so.
 
2021-10-26 1:56:25 PM  

buntz: I'm still trying to figure out the "her other parent" line.

But also, you know how you know it's fake?
11 year olds don't pour chips into a bowl to share on the couch.


My niece would have. She's quite fastidious.
 
2021-10-26 2:22:09 PM  
In about 7 years when this girl turns into a grown woman and off to college or moves into her own place she's going to be doing some freaky stuff with a mother that uptight now...
 
2021-10-26 3:48:32 PM  

Gyrfalcon: My niece would have. She's quite fastidious.


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2021-10-27 11:21:07 AM  

BMFPitt: holdmybones: Hell, the 5-11 should be approved today or tomorrow. So close.

I've been hearing that since August...


This is not a guy in an office with a rubber stamp, slowing things down to make you suffer. This is a real investigation on a decision that will affect millions of people, and it is being undertaken with all due weight.

Mostly it's the anti-vaxxers who don't get that, but the more impatient pro-vaxxers need to remember that this caution is the basis of our confidence.
 
2021-10-27 12:50:20 PM  

Enigmamf: This is not a guy in an office with a rubber stamp, slowing things down to make you suffer. This is a real investigation on a decision that will affect millions of people, and it is being undertaken with all due weight.

Mostly it's the anti-vaxxers who don't get that, but the more impatient pro-vaxxers need to remember that this caution is the basis of our confidence.


My understanding is that the data has been there for quite a while, and there has been quite a bit of foot-dragging.
 
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