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2021-10-26 1:11:36 AM  
I honestly wish someone had given me this advice earlier: be more important.

Alternatively get paid more while not being important.
 
2021-10-26 2:06:08 AM  
America is doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on being a literal wage slavery empire.

Ever since your bosses figured out they could just keep half your wages and call it "record profits" back around 1980, they've only been doing more of that on a grander scale ever since then.

$7.25 per hour is a starvation wage. $15 per hour was the goal a decade ago and isn't enough anymore.

Give us $25 per hour, at least, tied to inflation permanently.
Give us a 4-day work week.
Give us at least 4 weeks of unconditional, guaranteed paid leave.

They tried to literally starve us into submission by cutting off safety nets.

Time to starve them right back.

Don't settle. Don't compromise. Workers make the money. They're literally nothing without us.
 
2021-10-26 2:35:37 AM  
Karl Marx was right.
 
2021-10-26 2:41:28 AM  

bluejeansonfire: back around 1980


Ever hear of J&L Steel?  They started that around the time of the First Depression.
 
2021-10-26 5:08:25 AM  

bluejeansonfire: America is doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on being a literal wage slavery empire.

Ever since your bosses figured out they could just keep half your wages and call it "record profits" back around 1980, they've only been doing more of that on a grander scale ever since then.

$7.25 per hour is a starvation wage. $15 per hour was the goal a decade ago and isn't enough anymore.

Give us $25 per hour, at least, tied to inflation permanently.
Give us a 4-day work week.
Give us at least 4 weeks of unconditional, guaranteed paid leave.

They tried to literally starve us into submission by cutting off safety nets.

Time to starve them right back.

Don't settle. Don't compromise. Workers make the money. They're literally nothing without us.


A lot of this also has to do with the mentality of people who think they "need" to buy so many things. Sports players are a fantastic example. They have no financial control and even though they make so much more than most people ever will they have nothing left by the time they retire
 
2021-10-26 6:10:46 AM  

lifeslammer: bluejeansonfire: America is doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on being a literal wage slavery empire.

Ever since your bosses figured out they could just keep half your wages and call it "record profits" back around 1980, they've only been doing more of that on a grander scale ever since then.

$7.25 per hour is a starvation wage. $15 per hour was the goal a decade ago and isn't enough anymore.

Give us $25 per hour, at least, tied to inflation permanently.
Give us a 4-day work week.
Give us at least 4 weeks of unconditional, guaranteed paid leave.

They tried to literally starve us into submission by cutting off safety nets.

Time to starve them right back.

Don't settle. Don't compromise. Workers make the money. They're literally nothing without us.

A lot of this also has to do with the mentality of people who think they "need" to buy so many things. Sports players are a fantastic example. They have no financial control and even though they make so much more than most people ever will they have nothing left by the time they retire


Thanks for the "blame the victim" view. Somebody needed to do it.
 
2021-10-26 6:38:11 AM  
I bet almost all those Americans own refrigerators so.....
 
2021-10-26 7:41:18 AM  
We have entered the final stages of the game of Monopoly, with one player owning all the property and the rest of the players reduced to aimlessly walking the streets past places they can't afford to rent because Mr. Moneybags slapped a hotel on it.
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2021-10-26 8:29:06 AM  
I wonder how many FarKKKers will pop into this thread to post the equivalent of "git gud".
 
2021-10-26 8:52:00 AM  

lifeslammer: A lot of this also has to do with the mentality of people who think they "need" to buy so many things. Sports players are a fantastic example. They have no financial control and even though they make so much more than most people ever will they have nothing left by the time they retire


Counterpoint:

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2021-10-26 9:15:08 AM  
I live paycheck to paycheck trying to live alone without roommates or a significant other. I make it work but still occasionally have to choose between gas, groceries, or paying a bill late. Pick one. Everyone I know, save one, has to either have multiple roommates or a spouse to help out. And even still, a couple of the married ones have a roommate.

This bothers me because I make double the average salary in my city. Double. And it's still just barely enough to support me as a single person. And I am absolutely not living the high life. I can't imagine the day to day struggle of the ones who make the average or less.

Something has to give.
 
2021-10-26 9:15:54 AM  
"Work will set you free"

I see we're at the stage of history where we've forgotten who coined that little phrase.
 
2021-10-26 12:40:35 PM  

bluejeansonfire: America is doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on being a literal wage slavery empire.

Ever since your bosses figured out they could just keep half your wages and call it "record profits" back around 1980, they've only been doing more of that on a grander scale ever since then.

$7.25 per hour is a starvation wage. $15 per hour was the goal a decade ago and isn't enough anymore.

Give us $25 per hour, at least, tied to inflation permanently.
Give us a 4-day work week.
Give us at least 4 weeks of unconditional, guaranteed paid leave.

They tried to literally starve us into submission by cutting off safety nets.

Time to starve them right back.

Don't settle. Don't compromise. Workers make the money. They're literally nothing without us.


If the US Military can give 30 days paid leave, holidays, free medical care, educational assistance, and on the job training then there is no good reason private industry cannot do it too.

They just don't want to.
 
2021-10-26 2:00:33 PM  

fortheloveof: bluejeansonfire: America is doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on being a literal wage slavery empire.

Ever since your bosses figured out they could just keep half your wages and call it "record profits" back around 1980, they've only been doing more of that on a grander scale ever since then.

$7.25 per hour is a starvation wage. $15 per hour was the goal a decade ago and isn't enough anymore.

Give us $25 per hour, at least, tied to inflation permanently.
Give us a 4-day work week.
Give us at least 4 weeks of unconditional, guaranteed paid leave.

They tried to literally starve us into submission by cutting off safety nets.

Time to starve them right back.

Don't settle. Don't compromise. Workers make the money. They're literally nothing without us.

If the US Military can give 30 days paid leave, holidays, free medical care, educational assistance, and on the job training then there is no good reason private industry cannot do it too.

They just don't want to.


The military pays worse than mcdonalds
 
2021-10-26 2:47:47 PM  

lifeslammer: fortheloveof: bluejeansonfire: America is doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on being a literal wage slavery empire.

Ever since your bosses figured out they could just keep half your wages and call it "record profits" back around 1980, they've only been doing more of that on a grander scale ever since then.

$7.25 per hour is a starvation wage. $15 per hour was the goal a decade ago and isn't enough anymore.

Give us $25 per hour, at least, tied to inflation permanently.
Give us a 4-day work week.
Give us at least 4 weeks of unconditional, guaranteed paid leave.

They tried to literally starve us into submission by cutting off safety nets.

Time to starve them right back.

Don't settle. Don't compromise. Workers make the money. They're literally nothing without us.

If the US Military can give 30 days paid leave, holidays, free medical care, educational assistance, and on the job training then there is no good reason private industry cannot do it too.

They just don't want to.

The military pays worse than mcdonalds


In straight currency, sure. But, if you use them correctly, the crap load of benefits you get can set you up mighty pretty once you're back in civilian life. You know, if you don't die or get maimed beforehand.
 
2021-10-26 3:20:37 PM  

lifeslammer: fortheloveof: bluejeansonfire: America is doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on being a literal wage slavery empire.

Ever since your bosses figured out they could just keep half your wages and call it "record profits" back around 1980, they've only been doing more of that on a grander scale ever since then.

$7.25 per hour is a starvation wage. $15 per hour was the goal a decade ago and isn't enough anymore.

Give us $25 per hour, at least, tied to inflation permanently.
Give us a 4-day work week.
Give us at least 4 weeks of unconditional, guaranteed paid leave.

They tried to literally starve us into submission by cutting off safety nets.

Time to starve them right back.

Don't settle. Don't compromise. Workers make the money. They're literally nothing without us.

If the US Military can give 30 days paid leave, holidays, free medical care, educational assistance, and on the job training then there is no good reason private industry cannot do it too.

They just don't want to.

The military pays worse than mcdonalds


Having worked for both employers in this discussion I will say I much prefer the military.

Even at the bottom of the enlisted pay scale the military pays $19,800 in taxable income which at 40 hours for 52 weeks is $9.51 an hour. McDonald's averages about 10.5X an hours currently, with line employees usually getting around 7-10 dollars an hour. Of course this leaves off BAH, medical, and room and board from the military pay equation.

BAH averages about $916.50 a month right now ($10,998 annual) or an hourly rate of approximately $5.25. combined with the above $9.51 an hour that is taxable that is roughly $14.76 an hour.

BAS is $386.50 a month ($4638 annual) or approximately $2.23 an hour, giving a rough average of $16.99 an hour of pays.

But what if they are in the barracks? Alright without BAH that is $11.74 an hour, but your housing is covered.


Please note I used the less than four months time in service pay scale for the E1.

Now do not get me wrong, junior enlisted could definitely use more pay, and I would definitely advocate for that, but to say McDonald's pays more is disingenuous.

Also no one stays at E1 for any length of time unless you managed to get UCMJ. E3 can be made within 6 months of service, and E4 within a year if you do not start at that rank. E3 base pay is $2,103.90 a month for the first two years and E4 is 2,330.40.  E4 is going to base hourly pay at about $13.44 without allowances, and E3 is $12.71 without allowances.

As an E6 with 9 years my base pay is $3,762.60 a month. For my MOS I could certainly do better on the outside, but then the medical care for my wife and daughter would run significantly more as well, and the retirement plan for the military is something else I look forward to as well.
 
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