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(My Northwest)   Why can't Seattle Kraken expansion be more like Vegas Golden Knights? Might average rainfall be a factor?   (sports.mynorthwest.com) divider line
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2021-10-25 4:28:26 PM  
Because Seattle isn't a dark money town.

They also seem to have reeeeeally swung and missed on their goalie choice...
 
2021-10-25 4:29:21 PM  
Also, yeah, a 5-game roadtrip to start the season didn't help.
 
2021-10-25 5:09:16 PM  
So for home games does their captain take the train to the arena. Because then it would have made him a Gio Metro!

/I know I bring the funnies!
 
2021-10-25 5:13:17 PM  
Not every franchise can pull off what vegas did. It might be a fluke.
 
2021-10-25 5:16:16 PM  
Why haven't Seattle Kraken started strong like last NHL expansion team?

Because on day zero the Golden Knights already had a multiple Stanley Cup winning #1 overall pick goaltender between the pipes.

For starters.
 
2021-10-25 5:21:30 PM  
Because Vegas pantsed the rest of the league so badly, NHL GMs were far more prepared for the Seattle expansion draft. Lots of very average players were given contracts that complied with the draft for exposure purposes.
 
2021-10-25 5:30:14 PM  
Because GMs around the league didn't make the same mistakes.

The conditions were the same (can only protect 9 players), the difference is in the Vegas draft GMs were scared that some of their unprotected players would get picked, so they cut deals with Vegas: A draft pick here, a trade there, if Vegas promises not to poach their exposed rosters.

This gave Vegas an immense amount of power and leverage, which they used liberally to fleece GMs for all sorts of gifts. The end result is a stacked roster and prospect pool -- quite possibly more stacked than if GMs hadn't cut all those side deals at all. Vegas didn't have any star players, but what they had was 4 really strong 2nd lines and no weaknesses, which they rolled all season long. They still have most of those players today.

With Seattle, GMs around the league learned their lesson and were less inclined to cut deals with the Kraken. Seattle tried but no one was interested, and some teams even deliberately exposed their star players, daring Seattle to take them. Like Montreal did with Carey Price. Go ahead, take him. Take his $10.5m cap hit. See what kind of team you can build.

PK Subban, James van Riemsdyk, Jeff Skinner, Ryan Johansen, Matt Duchene, Vladimir Tarasenko were all exposed. Seattle picked none of them. In the Vegas draft, teams might've cut deals to protect them. They weren't going to fall for that again. So they left them exposed.

The gamble paid off and Seattle didn't bite and take any stars (with the exception of Giordano but he's 38 and probably on his last contract). They didn't cut deals, they mostly took 2nd liners -- following the Vegas model -- they got the team they felt they needed. Maybe they'll be competitive but they were never going to be as good as Vegas.
 
2021-10-25 5:36:08 PM  

puffy999: Because Seattle isn't a dark money town


Is that so?
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2021-10-25 5:55:29 PM  

Ishkur: Because GMs around the league didn't make the same mistakes.

The conditions were the same (can only protect 9 players), the difference is in the Vegas draft GMs were scared that some of their unprotected players would get picked, so they cut deals with Vegas: A draft pick here, a trade there, if Vegas promises not to poach their exposed rosters.

This gave Vegas an immense amount of power and leverage, which they used liberally to fleece GMs for all sorts of gifts. The end result is a stacked roster and prospect pool -- quite possibly more stacked than if GMs hadn't cut all those side deals at all. Vegas didn't have any star players, but what they had was 4 really strong 2nd lines and no weaknesses, which they rolled all season long. They still have most of those players today.

With Seattle, GMs around the league learned their lesson and were less inclined to cut deals with the Kraken. Seattle tried but no one was interested, and some teams even deliberately exposed their star players, daring Seattle to take them. Like Montreal did with Carey Price. Go ahead, take him. Take his $10.5m cap hit. See what kind of team you can build.

PK Subban, James van Riemsdyk, Jeff Skinner, Ryan Johansen, Matt Duchene, Vladimir Tarasenko were all exposed. Seattle picked none of them. In the Vegas draft, teams might've cut deals to protect them. They weren't going to fall for that again. So they left them exposed.

The gamble paid off and Seattle didn't bite and take any stars (with the exception of Giordano but he's 38 and probably on his last contract). They didn't cut deals, they mostly took 2nd liners -- following the Vegas model -- they got the team they felt they needed. Maybe they'll be competitive but they were never going to be as good as Vegas.


They gave Kraken the keys to the candy shop and all night to gorge itself fat on nice things , They came back the ext day to take the keys back  and roust the kraken out of the shop and found the skinny Kraken trying to grow sprouts and handing out flyers on the evils of HFCFS. And winter was coming soon
 
2021-10-25 6:12:45 PM  
I'm just happy to have a team. I don't really know most of the rules so its refreshing just watching them play and not be picking everything apart looking for penalty's. The atmosphere seems pretty fun at NHL games.
 
2021-10-25 6:37:50 PM  

Ishkur: Because GMs around the league didn't make the same mistakes.

The conditions were the same (can only protect 9 players), the difference is in the Vegas draft GMs were scared that some of their unprotected players would get picked, so they cut deals with Vegas: A draft pick here, a trade there, if Vegas promises not to poach their exposed rosters.

This gave Vegas an immense amount of power and leverage, which they used liberally to fleece GMs for all sorts of gifts. The end result is a stacked roster and prospect pool -- quite possibly more stacked than if GMs hadn't cut all those side deals at all. Vegas didn't have any star players, but what they had was 4 really strong 2nd lines and no weaknesses, which they rolled all season long. They still have most of those players today.

With Seattle, GMs around the league learned their lesson and were less inclined to cut deals with the Kraken. Seattle tried but no one was interested, and some teams even deliberately exposed their star players, daring Seattle to take them. Like Montreal did with Carey Price. Go ahead, take him. Take his $10.5m cap hit. See what kind of team you can build.

PK Subban, James van Riemsdyk, Jeff Skinner, Ryan Johansen, Matt Duchene, Vladimir Tarasenko were all exposed. Seattle picked none of them. In the Vegas draft, teams might've cut deals to protect them. They weren't going to fall for that again. So they left them exposed.

The gamble paid off and Seattle didn't bite and take any stars (with the exception of Giordano but he's 38 and probably on his last contract). They didn't cut deals, they mostly took 2nd liners -- following the Vegas model -- they got the team they felt they needed. Maybe they'll be competitive but they were never going to be as good as Vegas.


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2021-10-25 8:31:44 PM  

Farkenhostile: I'm just happy to have a team. I don't really know most of the rules so its refreshing just watching them play and not be picking everything apart looking for penalty's. The atmosphere seems pretty fun at NHL games.


It's awesome that you are getting into professional ice hockey!

First thing you should know is a little history.  Here are the League's three greatest players:

3.  Gordie Howe
2.  Wayne Gretzky
1.  Link Gaetz

Also, the only bad thing about NHL games is that, unlike NFL games, sometimes the games get canceled due to rain.
 
2021-10-25 9:04:23 PM  

Farkenhostile: I'm just happy to have a team. I don't really know most of the rules so its refreshing just watching them play and not be picking everything apart looking for penalty's. The atmosphere seems pretty fun at NHL games.


I'm flipping annoyed at the sportscasters trying to start a rivalry between us & Vancouver.  Van was our "home team" FOREVER - I'm not gonna hate on them just because we have the Kraken now.
 
2021-10-25 9:10:23 PM  

Dr.Fey: Farkenhostile: I'm just happy to have a team. I don't really know most of the rules so its refreshing just watching them play and not be picking everything apart looking for penalty's. The atmosphere seems pretty fun at NHL games.

It's awesome that you are getting into professional ice hockey!

First thing you should know is a little history.  Here are the League's three greatest players:

3.  Gordie Howe
2.  Wayne Gretzky
1.  Link Gaetz

Also, the only bad thing about NHL games is that, unlike NFL games, sometimes the games get canceled due to rain.


Hey, if you're going to steer him towards goon hockey, at least Lyndon Byers actually had a career in the NHL, unlike Gaetz. Just don't pressure him...

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2021-10-26 4:18:10 AM  
Ugh...

The 'fans' here in Seattle barely know what color the blue line is.

Can we dig up Peter Puck?

Hell, I'd almost would want the Atomic Puck on TV again.

Almost...
 
2021-10-26 8:14:31 AM  

Mad Canadian: Ugh...

The 'fans' here in Seattle barely know what color the blue line is.

Can we dig up Peter Puck?

Hell, I'd almost would want the Atomic Puck on TV again.

Almost...


Be nice. We were all beginners once. They'll learn. And even if they don't, the ongoing existence of Australian rules football is solid proof that millions of people can enjoy a sport without a single one of them understanding it.
 
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