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2021-10-25 12:25:26 PM  
Hmmm.
I wonder how far it'll tow 3500# of boat+trailer, cook a nice dinner and get home.
 
2021-10-25 1:26:14 PM  
Kind of cool(albeit pricey as hell), but I imagine that thing is going to go wrong in so many ways after the first use.
 
2021-10-25 1:28:42 PM  
A perfect accessory for the 'merikun market.

'Pull over! I got a hankerin' for some home (or roadside) made chili!'
''kay, but y'all better not put beans in it or we'll have a confrontation on our hands!'
 
2021-10-25 1:29:55 PM  
How about creating a truck that people can afford? Idk, like create another S10 or something. Im never dropping 80K-100K on something that will only go down in value over time.
 
2021-10-25 1:35:30 PM  

oldfarthenry: A perfect accessory for the 'merikun market.

'Pull over! I got a hankerin' for some home (or roadside) made chili!'
''kay, but y'all better not put beans in it or we'll have a confrontation on our hands!'


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2021-10-25 1:37:24 PM  
As an avid camper, I don't understand the people who bring their entire kitchen with them.

To me, the camping experience is about being minimalist.
 
2021-10-25 1:37:29 PM  

AsparagusFTW: How about creating a truck that people can afford? Idk, like create another S10 or something. Im never dropping 80K-100K on something that will only go down in value over time.


Starting at $20,000 for a base Model

https://www.ford.com/trucks/maverick/​
 
2021-10-25 1:43:17 PM  

Tom_Slick: AsparagusFTW: How about creating a truck that people can afford? Idk, like create another S10 or something. Im never dropping 80K-100K on something that will only go down in value over time.

Starting at $20,000 for a base Model

https://www.ford.com/trucks/maverick/


I really hope the Maverick does well.  I'm thinking of buying one myself.

I don't need a brodozer, just a solid small truck for occasional drywall/building materials/random stuff.
 
2021-10-25 1:44:15 PM  

Tom_Slick: AsparagusFTW: How about creating a truck that people can afford? Idk, like create another S10 or something. Im never dropping 80K-100K on something that will only go down in value over time.

Starting at $20,000 for a base Model

https://www.ford.com/trucks/maverick/


Ask and ye shall deliver! Thanks! I was just talking to a guy about getting a used S10 that had low miles. Just get around town, pickup smaller shiat. No way in hell I would buy a new F150 or whatever. I drive a small car now. I have to rent a truck 2-3 times a year for larger buys. That costs me like $100 a year and I don't have to deal with any maintenance or anything. Which is great. But 20K is something I would consider as my next purchase.
 
2021-10-25 1:51:32 PM  
The recent obsession with camping equipment bolted to trucks bewilders me. Why wouldn't a camp kitchen packed in a crate with folding legs that you could pack in the bed of the pickup be more versatile? 
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The same thing can be said for tents bolted to the roof of trucks. Both of these gadgets require perfectly level parking spaces to work. Good luck cooking on a slanted stove. Level parking spaces are rare outside of RV campgrounds.

Both gadgets require that you pack up your entire camp before you can drive the vehicle. I don't know about you, but sometimes I go camping to save money on hotel rooms so that I can afford to drive to go do touristy stuff during the day.

I guess I could see some use for a slide out truck kitchen if I was a hard core tailgater with a pathological need to impress others with all the money I'd be spending to pay for two adjacent parking spots in order to deploy it.

I also don't think it makes sense to drive an electric truck, with their limited range, into the boondocks and then have to worry about the electric stove draining the batteries, leaving you stranded.
 
2021-10-25 2:08:19 PM  
Electric stoves suck. You're all thinking it.
 
2021-10-25 2:16:20 PM  

Tom_Slick: AsparagusFTW: How about creating a truck that people can afford? Idk, like create another S10 or something. Im never dropping 80K-100K on something that will only go down in value over time.

Starting at $20,000 for a base Model

https://www.ford.com/trucks/maverick/


oh damn. how did I miss this?

Eldest child is hitting 15 this year, so she'll be getting my GTI. I was debating a small truck for hauling wood and the like. Hope this one sticks around for a bit.
 
2021-10-25 2:23:30 PM  

Chevello: Electric stoves suck. You're all thinking it.


It's induction, which is awesome (I'd argue ultimately better than gas).

And for camping, it performs much better in cold weather than gas.
 
2021-10-25 2:27:39 PM  
So $6,500 in order to be able to do what you can do with

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($70) and a few rubbermaid totes? While being far less maneuverable and taking up an entire second parking space next to the one you're actually parked in?

Great jorb guys!
 
2021-10-25 2:35:01 PM  

quo vadimus: So $6,500 in order to be able to do what you can do with

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($70) and a few rubbermaid totes? While being far less maneuverable and taking up an entire second parking space next to the one you're actually parked in?

Great jorb guys!


but think of the minutes wasted in packing up all those cooking supplies, instead you can just slide them into the truck!
 
2021-10-25 2:38:16 PM  

AsparagusFTW: How about creating a truck that people can afford? Idk, like create another S10 or something. Im never dropping 80K-100K on something that will only go down in value over time.


An old boss of mine bought a F-350 to take his kids to school and grocery shopping.  We worked for a Gateway retail store, so it's not like our work was anything construction/farm related.  Rednecks routinely try to one-up each other to see who can get the biggest truck, and by extension who can get the most debt the fastest.  This is a long way to go to say we're not the target demo here.
 
2021-10-25 2:40:26 PM  
So... glamping for truckbros. Might was well add in some LED trucknuts while they're at it..

/ seriously, ultralight backpacking with minimalist cooking gear is where it's at
 
2021-10-25 2:44:10 PM  

thornhill: Chevello: Electric stoves suck. You're all thinking it.

It's induction, which is awesome (I'd argue ultimately better than gas).

And for camping, it performs much better in cold weather than gas.


What am I supposed to do, read the article?

You nut!
 
2021-10-25 2:47:49 PM  

Where wolf: Tom_Slick: AsparagusFTW: How about creating a truck that people can afford? Idk, like create another S10 or something. Im never dropping 80K-100K on something that will only go down in value over time.

Starting at $20,000 for a base Model

https://www.ford.com/trucks/maverick/

oh damn. how did I miss this?

Eldest child is hitting 15 this year, so she'll be getting my GTI. I was debating a small truck for hauling wood and the like. Hope this one sticks around for a bit.


All the Attention has been on the new Bronco and Bronco Sport, the Maverick has kind of snuck in plus with the supply problems they really have turned down the hype machine
 
2021-10-25 2:57:38 PM  

quo vadimus: So $6,500 in order to be able to do what you can do with

[rei.com image 692x588]
($70) and a few rubbermaid totes? While being far less maneuverable and taking up an entire second parking space next to the one you're actually parked in?

Great jorb guys!


Ahh, the good ol' Coleman double. I wouldn't be surprised if ones I used in the scouts 30 years ago are still working today.
 
2021-10-25 2:59:31 PM  

Psychopompous: The recent obsession with camping equipment bolted to trucks bewilders me. Why wouldn't a camp kitchen packed in a crate with folding legs that you could pack in the bed of the pickup be more versatile? [rei.com image 600x429]
The same thing can be said for tents bolted to the roof of trucks. Both of these gadgets require perfectly level parking spaces to work. Good luck cooking on a slanted stove. Level parking spaces are rare outside of RV campgrounds.

Both gadgets require that you pack up your entire camp before you can drive the vehicle. I don't know about you, but sometimes I go camping to save money on hotel rooms so that I can afford to drive to go do touristy stuff during the day.

I guess I could see some use for a slide out truck kitchen if I was a hard core tailgater with a pathological need to impress others with all the money I'd be spending to pay for two adjacent parking spots in order to deploy it.

I also don't think it makes sense to drive an electric truck, with their limited range, into the boondocks and then have to worry about the electric stove draining the batteries, leaving you stranded.


I kind of want to get one of those "portable AC" things for my Avalanche. As long as the bed cover seals are good, it's sealed from the elements and you can flip down the midgate and have enough space for a small air mattress. Quite a few people use it for low impact camping that way.
 
2021-10-25 3:09:17 PM  

Tom_Slick: Where wolf: Tom_Slick: AsparagusFTW: How about creating a truck that people can afford? Idk, like create another S10 or something. Im never dropping 80K-100K on something that will only go down in value over time.

Starting at $20,000 for a base Model

https://www.ford.com/trucks/maverick/

oh damn. how did I miss this?

Eldest child is hitting 15 this year, so she'll be getting my GTI. I was debating a small truck for hauling wood and the like. Hope this one sticks around for a bit.

All the Attention has been on the new Bronco and Bronco Sport, the Maverick has kind of snuck in plus with the supply problems they really have turned down the hype machine


They are only producing 20k units . They expect to sell out this month if not next.
 
2021-10-25 3:18:40 PM  

thornhill: Chevello: Electric stoves suck. You're all thinking it.

It's induction, which is awesome (I'd argue ultimately better than gas).

And for camping, it performs much better in cold weather than gas.


"The unfortunate truth is that cold temperatures can substantially hamper both a battery's performance and its ability to accept a charge.
A study conducted earlier this year by the AAA found that when the mercury dips to 20°F and the heater is in use, an electric car's operating range will drop by an average of 41 percent. That means if you own a Nissan Leaf, that's otherwise rated to run for 150 miles on a charge, you'd likely only be drive for around 88 miles before having to plug it in. You'll also find it takes longer to bring the vehicle's battery pack up to a full charge. Frigid temperatures also limit an electric car's regenerative braking function, which recovers energy that would otherwise be lost during decelerating or stopping and sends it back to the battery.
On top of that, using the heater will drain an electric vehicle's battery at an accelerated pace. While gasoline engines generate large amounts of heat that can be harvested to warm a car's interior, an electric car's climate control system relies solely on battery power to accomplish this function."
https://www.myev.com/research/ev-101/​h​ow-winter-weather-affects-an-electric-​car


I go camping many miles from the nearest town that would have a car charging station. If the stove runs down the battery on my electric truck, I have to pay for a tow, if I can get cell service in order to call.

If I go camping driving a gas vehicle and cook on a white gas stove, and I run out of fuel, I can add the stove fuel to the car's gas tank, in a pinch. White gas lacks some of the additives in normal gasoline, but it will get you into town. Or worst case, you hitchhike to town with the empty stove fuel can to fill with unleaded. Country folk sometimes pick up hitchhikers with gas cans, because running out of gas happens more often when you live far from town, and they are sympathetic. Just be willing to climb in the back of the pickup, because the passenger seat is reserved for the hound dog.
 
2021-10-25 3:32:31 PM  
I watched the Rivian overland media tour. It's a neat truck, but it doesn't have the battery capacity to be useful off road.  I don't think it could tow a small trailer to a lake, be used as a power source for the weekend, and have enough juice to make it home.
 
2021-10-25 3:39:52 PM  

Elzar: So... glamping for truckbros. Might was well add in some LED trucknuts while they're at it..

/ seriously, ultralight backpacking with minimalist cooking gear is where it's at


There is something to be said for cooking in the middle of an empty desert on a six-burner Vulcan stove that *someone* arranged to fall out of the back of a passing C-130. and serving a 5-course gourmet meal in a dining fly...the Juxaposition adds flavor and interest
 
2021-10-25 3:41:47 PM  

AsparagusFTW: How about creating a truck that people can afford? Idk, like create another S10 or something. Im never dropping 80K-100K on something that will only go down in value over time.


The 2021 Pickmans are available in America. They even make an off-road version. Top speed is 28 mph. Range is 75 miles.
I dig the fold down flatbed option.
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2021-10-25 4:32:53 PM  

Psychopompous: thornhill: Chevello: Electric stoves suck. You're all thinking it.

It's induction, which is awesome (I'd argue ultimately better than gas).

And for camping, it performs much better in cold weather than gas.

"The unfortunate truth is that cold temperatures can substantially hamper both a battery's performance and its ability to accept a charge.
A study conducted earlier this year by the AAA found that when the mercury dips to 20°F and the heater is in use, an electric car's operating range will drop by an average of 41 percent. That means if you own a Nissan Leaf, that's otherwise rated to run for 150 miles on a charge, you'd likely only be drive for around 88 miles before having to plug it in. You'll also find it takes longer to bring the vehicle's battery pack up to a full charge. Frigid temperatures also limit an electric car's regenerative braking function, which recovers energy that would otherwise be lost during decelerating or stopping and sends it back to the battery.
On top of that, using the heater will drain an electric vehicle's battery at an accelerated pace. While gasoline engines generate large amounts of heat that can be harvested to warm a car's interior, an electric car's climate control system relies solely on battery power to accomplish this function."
https://www.myev.com/research/ev-101/h​ow-winter-weather-affects-an-electric-​car


That study is one data point, and there's lots of data that shows it's more like 20 percent.

Further, EVs are now coming with heat pumps for the battery that help prevent range dips in cold weather. 

I go camping many miles from the nearest town that would have a car charging station. If the stove runs down the battery on my electric truck, I have to pay for a tow, if I can get cell service in order to call.

If I go camping driving a gas vehicle and cook on a white gas stove, and I run out of fuel, I can add the stove fuel to the car's gas tank, in a pinch. White gas lacks some of the additives in normal gasoline, but it will get you into town. Or worst case, you hitchhike to town with the empty stove fuel can to fill with unleaded. Country folk sometimes pick up hitchhikers with gas cans, because running ou ...


Realistically, people with a $5k kitchen for their pickup truck aren't camping off-grid - they're going a state or national park and getting camping site with an electrical hookup.
 
2021-10-25 5:04:05 PM  

Psychopompous: A study conducted earlier this year by the AAA found that when the mercury dips to 20°F and the heater is in use, an electric car's operating range will drop by an average of 41 percent.


Depends on where your starting point is. If you have the vehicle plugged in the battery stays heated to a functional temperature and you can use mains electricity to pre-heat the cabin before departure. Then you can keep the cabin on recirculate, at a moderate temperature, and use the seat warmer to stay warm.
 
2021-10-25 5:58:45 PM  

thornhill: Psychopompous: thornhill: Chevello: Electric stoves suck. You're all thinking it.

It's induction, which is awesome (I'd argue ultimately better than gas).

And for camping, it performs much better in cold weather than gas.

"The unfortunate truth is that cold temperatures can substantially hamper both a battery's performance and its ability to accept a charge.
A study conducted earlier this year by the AAA found that when the mercury dips to 20°F and the heater is in use, an electric car's operating range will drop by an average of 41 percent. That means if you own a Nissan Leaf, that's otherwise rated to run for 150 miles on a charge, you'd likely only be drive for around 88 miles before having to plug it in. You'll also find it takes longer to bring the vehicle's battery pack up to a full charge. Frigid temperatures also limit an electric car's regenerative braking function, which recovers energy that would otherwise be lost during decelerating or stopping and sends it back to the battery.
On top of that, using the heater will drain an electric vehicle's battery at an accelerated pace. While gasoline engines generate large amounts of heat that can be harvested to warm a car's interior, an electric car's climate control system relies solely on battery power to accomplish this function."
https://www.myev.com/research/ev-101/h​ow-winter-weather-affects-an-electric-​car

That study is one data point, and there's lots of data that shows it's more like 20 percent.

Further, EVs are now coming with heat pumps for the battery that help prevent range dips in cold weather. 

I go camping many miles from the nearest town that would have a car charging station. If the stove runs down the battery on my electric truck, I have to pay for a tow, if I can get cell service in order to call.

If I go camping driving a gas vehicle and cook on a white gas stove, and I run out of fuel, I can add the stove fuel to the car's gas tank, in a pinch. White gas lacks some of the additives in ...


If you run out of gas in a conventional car you are basically stuck till you can bring more gas to that location. (less of a thing these days with AAA and cellphones) worst case scenario with an electric?   Foldable solar arrys are thing now, and its take a day or two buy you could add enough juice to limp back to civilization
 
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