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(Metro)   Three former Miss France beauty pageant contestants are suing the Miss France beauty pageant for selecting the most beautiful miss from France   (metro.co.uk) divider line
    More: Misc, Discrimination, Beauty contest, France, Lawsuit, Pleading, Sexism, former Miss France candidates, Feminism  
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TWX
2021-10-24 12:48:57 PM  
Serious question, does anyone really think that any of the other stages of these pageants mean especially much when weighed against the subjective attractiveness of the contestants?

Attractiveness as a trait is not limited to physical form, but by the same token I've always understood these sorts of pageants to count physical form as a couple of orders of magnitude more important than any other traits or talents of the contestants.  Those other traits only really come into play when relative, subjective physical attractiveness is basically the same between two competitors and some other critieria is required in order to set one apart.
 
2021-10-24 1:43:51 PM  

TWX: Serious question, does anyone really think that any of the other stages of these pageants mean especially much when weighed against the subjective attractiveness of the contestants?

Attractiveness as a trait is not limited to physical form, but by the same token I've always understood these sorts of pageants to count physical form as a couple of orders of magnitude more important than any other traits or talents of the contestants.  Those other traits only really come into play when relative, subjective physical attractiveness is basically the same between two competitors and some other critieria is required in order to set one apart.


Those other traits only come into play to deflect criticism that it is anything more than a voyeur meat-market.  The winner is whichever one gives the judges a stiffy, full stop.  Everything else is a "but it isn't all about giving the judges a stiffy" smokescreen.

Note:  by "judges" I mean whoever is fronting the money for the meat-market, not the randos sat up there like shaved monkeys stuffed into tuxes and/or taffeta dresses.
 
2021-10-24 2:12:38 PM  
So, ladies... You admit you all find her attractive, too?
 
2021-10-24 3:19:20 PM  
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2021-10-24 4:40:15 PM  
They're suing an obviously sexist competition for being sexist?
 
2021-10-24 4:40:35 PM  
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2021-10-24 4:43:33 PM  
Hold on - are we implying that the interview and talent segments aren't determinant??
 
2021-10-24 4:43:51 PM  
It's astounding that pageantry is still a thing. Seriously, are you farking kidding me?
 
2021-10-24 4:45:43 PM  
They're pissed they flubbed the question about The Iraq, and such as.
 
2021-10-24 4:46:03 PM  
They should have applied to the Miss It's What Is On The Inside That Truly Counts contest.
 
2021-10-24 4:47:13 PM  
This is where we post the picture of the guy looking slightly confused, slightly amused and blinking a lot.
 
2021-10-24 4:47:19 PM  

pastramithemosterotic: They're suing an obviously sexist competition for being sexist?


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2021-10-24 4:47:32 PM  
article: 'French labour code forbids companies from discriminating on the basis of 'morals, age, family status or physical appearance,'

No morals clause?  Does that include letting murderers hide their identity?
 
2021-10-24 4:48:04 PM  
Surprised no one sued yet because of the pronoun game
 
2021-10-24 4:50:59 PM  

nanim: article: 'French labour code forbids companies from discriminating on the basis of 'morals, age, family status or physical appearance,'

No morals clause?  Does that include letting murderers hide their identity?


It's to allow office affairs and to be able to sexually harass their subordinates.
 
2021-10-24 4:51:06 PM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: It's astounding that pageantry is still a thing. Seriously, are you farking kidding me?


Mothers of a certain age push their pre-school daughters into them the same was fathers push boys of the same age into sports.  And both parents turn it into personal self-esteem validation.  You train a girl that her self-worth is entirely wrapped around prancing around in a sequined dress and it will often stick.  And these things dole out just enough money it creates a lost-cost situation "what am I giving up if I don't?".  They are shrinking in popularity, butt like snake-handling churches, they keep persisting in the intersection of bad taste and bad self -esteem.
 
2021-10-24 4:51:46 PM  
You're participating in a contest that is solely for eye candy and window shopping.

I don't think the regular person watching these shows are wondering about your thesis in quantum physics or your plan to demiliterize the middle east.

Willing to bet that ya knew that before entering too.
 
2021-10-24 4:52:09 PM  
Wonder what would have happened if one of the girl suing would have won.  Still be suing?

I read a little but of the article.
 
2021-10-24 4:54:11 PM  
Well openly judging them on the blowjob is just seen as uncouth so...
 
2021-10-24 4:54:57 PM  
If you think they're angry now, imagine how angry they'd be if they had chosen a less attractive woman.
 
2021-10-24 4:55:00 PM  
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I'm not sure which one is Miss France but she looks damn good for 100!

/...et, pourquoi est-ce que l'on ne dit pas <<Mademoiselle France>>?
 
2021-10-24 4:57:29 PM  
Allons jouer au Cherchez Le Sandwich!
 
2021-10-24 5:00:56 PM  
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2021-10-24 5:00:57 PM  
The guys over at fark.fr are telling all the women to STFU and be thankful they're not in a US beauty pageant, where the owner randomly walks through the dressing room to look at naked women.
 
2021-10-24 5:05:49 PM  
Dear oppressive, mediocre idiots,

This is not an instruction manual:

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2021-10-24 5:07:57 PM  
Butt Trumpet - I'm Ugly and I Don't Know Why
Youtube Z-24X5Aqobs
 
2021-10-24 5:09:35 PM  
Meh, French hot
 
2021-10-24 5:12:20 PM  
if she said anything about maps, that should then disqualify her !!  ( . )
 
2021-10-24 5:12:43 PM  

LewDux: Meh, French hot


French hot, like Italian hot, is not all that damning.
 
2021-10-24 5:14:07 PM  
They could draw on precedent from Curtis v. Playgirl Magazine.
 
2021-10-24 5:14:24 PM  
It's unfair. She shaved her armpits and everything.
 
2021-10-24 5:15:50 PM  

WhippingBoi: Dear oppressive, mediocre idiots,

This is not an instruction manual:

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I hated that story and they actually teach it to kids in elementary and middle. You know, instead of To Kill a Mockingbird.

SMDH

/Fark the Koch Network - they did this
 
2021-10-24 5:17:44 PM  

WhippingBoi: Dear oppressive, mediocre idiots,

This is not an instruction manual:

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Meh, I'm all for letting the best of us rise to the top and be the best of us. I'll even pay to watch it sometimes, and we all certainly benefit from it. But beauty pageants aren't that. They're just collections of a strange sampling of hot women with not much better to do. If you excel in sports or music or ballet - go do that. If you're just looking to be the hottest, I don't know maybe modeling or porn?
 
2021-10-24 5:20:25 PM  
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2021-10-24 5:23:53 PM  

WhippingBoi: Dear oppressive, mediocre idiots,

This is not an instruction manual:

[vonnegutlibrary.org image 271x320]


Wow. Thx. I had forgotten about that. I think I have Monkey House around here somewhere, need to re-read it.
 
2021-10-24 5:25:19 PM  

foo monkey: The guys over at fark.fr are telling all the women to STFU and be thankful they're not in a US beauty pageant, where the owner randomly walks through the dressing room to look at naked women.


Seriously, though, if you look like that you probably don't care if anyone sees you naked. I knew a woman once who told me if she realized how hot she was when she was young (she was hot), she would have walked around naked all the time. Of course, she was kidding but she was bemoaning the loss of her younger body and looks. I guess when you get older perspective changes.

It does seem a bit odd to me that women who participate in such a thing complain about the obvious intent of said thing.

I have no idea where I'm going with any of this or what point I'm trying to make.
 
2021-10-24 5:27:16 PM  
Occam's Disposable Razor:I don't know maybe modeling or porn?

What about models *OF* porn? Using only pipe cleaners, popsicle sticks and googly eyes.
 
2021-10-24 5:29:23 PM  
Perhaps the old casting couch could be used as a tie-breaker.
 
2021-10-24 5:32:08 PM  

gameshowhost: Hold on - are we implying that the interview and talent segments aren't determinant??


Somebody fetch my fainting couch.
 
2021-10-24 5:36:27 PM  
There's a reason why it's called a beauty contest ..
 
2021-10-24 5:38:16 PM  

TWX: Serious question, does anyone really think that any of the other stages of these pageants mean especially much when weighed against the subjective attractiveness of the contestants?

Attractiveness as a trait is not limited to physical form, but by the same token I've always understood these sorts of pageants to count physical form as a couple of orders of magnitude more important than any other traits or talents of the contestants.  Those other traits only really come into play when relative, subjective physical attractiveness is basically the same between two competitors and some other critieria is required in order to set one apart.


Decades ago the Canadian pageant did start putting more value on things other than looks, and as a result we had a string of talented, poised winners who did badly in the international competition. (We did have a couple who won anyway.)
 
2021-10-24 5:42:02 PM  
Each and every one looks like a winner to me.

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2021-10-24 5:42:46 PM  
With our education over here in the U.S we should help the U. S., uh, or, should help the French women and South Africa and should help the Iraq, and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our children.
 
2021-10-24 5:43:34 PM  

phalamir: They are shrinking in popularity, butt like snake-handling churches, they keep persisting in the intersection of bad taste and bad self -esteem.


If there is a snake-handling competition, I will watch their pageant.
 
2021-10-24 5:43:41 PM  
1.) Beauty pageants are antiquated garbage and should be done away with.

2.) If you DO hold these monstrosities, however, they're definitely about physical appearance and it's inane and actually insulting to pretend it could be otherwise.

3.) But do away with them. Seriously.
 
2021-10-24 5:46:43 PM  

ChubbyTiger: LewDux: Meh, French hot

French hot, like Italian hot, is not all that damning.


Sure, could be worse, could be Swiss Hot
 
2021-10-24 5:50:23 PM  

pastramithemosterotic: They're suing an obviously sexist competition for being sexist?


Their legal argument is that French law bars the competition from being sexist.
 
2021-10-24 5:50:31 PM  
Men want women because they are beautiful. Women want men because they are rich.

/Simple
 
2021-10-24 5:52:40 PM  

LewDux: Meh, French hot


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For the record, this is "French hot":

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DVD
2021-10-24 5:55:05 PM  

Your Hind Brain: Men want women because they are beautiful. Women want men because they are rich.

/Simple


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