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(WFLA Tampa Bay)   Used car dealership finds new method to rip off its customers: Keep down payment, repossess vehicle while still parked in its lot   (wfla.com) divider line
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2021-10-24 11:28:18 AM  
Every single detail about this dealership sounds sketchy as fark.
 
2021-10-24 11:41:06 AM  

Lsherm: Every single detail about this dealership sounds sketchy as fark.


It's a dealership.

Are there any that aren't sketchy as fark?

And if you're that broke why are you buying a car from a dealership? For $5k you could by a car privately that will be fine. You could buy one for $4k and keep the other thousand for any unexpected repairs. But cars these days are far more reliable than they used to be. I've bought cars off ebay for under £500 that have been in great condition and been reliable. In her position I'd far rather pay $1000 and have 4k in the bank than stretch myself buying from a dealership and saddling myself with a monthly payment I might struggle to keep.
 
2021-10-24 11:53:33 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Lsherm: Every single detail about this dealership sounds sketchy as fark.

It's a dealership.

Are there any that aren't sketchy as fark?

And if you're that broke why are you buying a car from a dealership? For $5k you could by a car privately that will be fine. You could buy one for $4k and keep the other thousand for any unexpected repairs. But cars these days are far more reliable than they used to be. I've bought cars off ebay for under £500 that have been in great condition and been reliable. In her position I'd far rather pay $1000 and have 4k in the bank than stretch myself buying from a dealership and saddling myself with a monthly payment I might struggle to keep.


It is very difficult to finance a POS car in the US, which is why these dealers exist. If you can't come up with ten grand in cash for a decent car, these guys will sell you a car worth 7 grand for 10 grand with financing. Banks won't lend you money for an old car, so you're over a barrel when it comes to dealers.
 
2021-10-24 11:54:27 AM  
Car dealers are only slightly less ethical than crack dealers.

But only slightly less.
 
2021-10-24 11:56:56 AM  
 
2021-10-24 12:33:44 PM  
"Helpless, she knew she'd Better Call Behnken. "

The series that could have saved Quibi.
 
2021-10-24 12:37:53 PM  
She better check her credit reports for the next several years and make sure that asshole doesn't put the repo on there.
 
2021-10-24 2:57:34 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Lsherm: Every single detail about this dealership sounds sketchy as fark.

It's a dealership.

Are there any that aren't sketchy as fark?

And if you're that broke why are you buying a car from a dealership? For $5k you could by a car privately that will be fine. You could buy one for $4k and keep the other thousand for any unexpected repairs. But cars these days are far more reliable than they used to be. I've bought cars off ebay for under £500 that have been in great condition and been reliable. In her position I'd far rather pay $1000 and have 4k in the bank than stretch myself buying from a dealership and saddling myself with a monthly payment I might struggle to keep.


Stealership
 
2021-10-24 2:58:24 PM  

Lsherm: Carter Pewterschmidt: Lsherm: Every single detail about this dealership sounds sketchy as fark.

It's a dealership.

Are there any that aren't sketchy as fark?

And if you're that broke why are you buying a car from a dealership? For $5k you could by a car privately that will be fine. You could buy one for $4k and keep the other thousand for any unexpected repairs. But cars these days are far more reliable than they used to be. I've bought cars off ebay for under £500 that have been in great condition and been reliable. In her position I'd far rather pay $1000 and have 4k in the bank than stretch myself buying from a dealership and saddling myself with a monthly payment I might struggle to keep.

It is very difficult to finance a POS car in the US, which is why these dealers exist. If you can't come up with ten grand in cash for a decent car, these guys will sell you a car worth 7 grand for 10 grand with financing. Banks won't lend you money for an old car, so you're over a barrel when it comes to dealers.


Used car salesman capitalism at its finest
 
2021-10-24 3:13:17 PM  
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Seems on the up-and-up to me.
 
2021-10-24 3:14:40 PM  
shut it down and cancel the all applicable licenses tied to the business and it's owner.
 
2021-10-24 3:17:21 PM  
Not buy here, pay here. Buy here, stay here.
 
2021-10-24 3:19:53 PM  
FTFA:
So this story isn't over.
Auto View's manager says he only paid Chloe $1,000 because he thought she received the rest through a credit card chargeback.
When 8 On Your Side showed his staff her bank records that shows he reversed that chargeback, the dealership insists they don't have the money back - yet - but when they do... they say they'll return it.


Hell no.  She should have never accepted the $1,000 check.  You pay me EVERY GAWDDAMNED PENNY RIGHT NOW.  Call the cops and file a police report.  Guarantee he'll pay her right away.  If not, straight to Small Claims Court.  These jack holes always put the onus on the party they screwed over and will use a strategy of wearing down their mark with empty promises.  Be a hard-ass and ignore the thief's complaints that you're being unreasonable.
 
2021-10-24 3:31:24 PM  
Annamanthadoo, okay I gotta say that's a fun name to say.  Rolls right off the tongue kinda like onomatopoeia.
 
2021-10-24 3:31:36 PM  
Better call Saul!
 
2021-10-24 3:56:53 PM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: FTFA:
So this story isn't over.
Auto View's manager says he only paid Chloe $1,000 because he thought she received the rest through a credit card chargeback.
When 8 On Your Side showed his staff her bank records that shows he reversed that chargeback, the dealership insists they don't have the money back - yet - but when they do... they say they'll return it.

Hell no.  She should have never accepted the $1,000 check.  You pay me EVERY GAWDDAMNED PENNY RIGHT NOW.  Call the cops and file a police report.  Guarantee he'll pay her right away.  If not, straight to Small Claims Court.  These jack holes always put the onus on the party they screwed over and will use a strategy of wearing down their mark with empty promises.  Be a hard-ass and ignore the thief's complaints that you're being unreasonable.


I would have demanded in cash. Just because he writes a check, doesn't mean it'll be good.
 
2021-10-24 3:58:20 PM  

dustman81: Chief Superintendent Lookout: FTFA:
So this story isn't over.
Auto View's manager says he only paid Chloe $1,000 because he thought she received the rest through a credit card chargeback.
When 8 On Your Side showed his staff her bank records that shows he reversed that chargeback, the dealership insists they don't have the money back - yet - but when they do... they say they'll return it.

Hell no.  She should have never accepted the $1,000 check.  You pay me EVERY GAWDDAMNED PENNY RIGHT NOW.  Call the cops and file a police report.  Guarantee he'll pay her right away.  If not, straight to Small Claims Court.  These jack holes always put the onus on the party they screwed over and will use a strategy of wearing down their mark with empty promises.  Be a hard-ass and ignore the thief's complaints that you're being unreasonable.

I would have demanded in cash. Just because he writes a check, doesn't mean it'll be good.


A bounced check looks even better as evidence in a Small Claims action.
 
2021-10-24 3:58:21 PM  
Used car dealer acts exactly like a used car dealer. News, at 11.
 
2021-10-24 4:10:13 PM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: dustman81: Chief Superintendent Lookout: FTFA:
So this story isn't over.
Auto View's manager says he only paid Chloe $1,000 because he thought she received the rest through a credit card chargeback.
When 8 On Your Side showed his staff her bank records that shows he reversed that chargeback, the dealership insists they don't have the money back - yet - but when they do... they say they'll return it.

Hell no.  She should have never accepted the $1,000 check.  You pay me EVERY GAWDDAMNED PENNY RIGHT NOW.  Call the cops and file a police report.  Guarantee he'll pay her right away.  If not, straight to Small Claims Court.  These jack holes always put the onus on the party they screwed over and will use a strategy of wearing down their mark with empty promises.  Be a hard-ass and ignore the thief's complaints that you're being unreasonable.

I would have demanded in cash. Just because he writes a check, doesn't mean it'll be good.

A bounced check looks even better as evidence in a Small Claims action.


Oh, this is beyond Small Claims Court. We're into grand thief, fraud and other felonies now.
 
2021-10-24 4:15:37 PM  
The dealership model needs to die
 
2021-10-24 5:04:33 PM  

AirForceVet: Chief Superintendent Lookout: dustman81: Chief Superintendent Lookout: FTFA:
So this story isn't over.
Auto View's manager says he only paid Chloe $1,000 because he thought she received the rest through a credit card chargeback.
When 8 On Your Side showed his staff her bank records that shows he reversed that chargeback, the dealership insists they don't have the money back - yet - but when they do... they say they'll return it.

Hell no.  She should have never accepted the $1,000 check.  You pay me EVERY GAWDDAMNED PENNY RIGHT NOW.  Call the cops and file a police report.  Guarantee he'll pay her right away.  If not, straight to Small Claims Court.  These jack holes always put the onus on the party they screwed over and will use a strategy of wearing down their mark with empty promises.  Be a hard-ass and ignore the thief's complaints that you're being unreasonable.

I would have demanded in cash. Just because he writes a check, doesn't mean it'll be good.

A bounced check looks even better as evidence in a Small Claims action.

Oh, this is beyond Small Claims Court. We're into grand thief, fraud and other felonies now.


We're into odometer fraud, and that's a big farking deal.

When these laws are violated, title fraud and grand theft, both felonies, are also added to the list of arrest charges. These violations each carry a fine as much as $5,000 and/or five years in prison.
 
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2021-10-24 5:20:18 PM  

scanman61: When these laws are violated, title fraud and grand theft, both felonies, are also added to the list of arrest charges. These violations each carry a fine as much as $5,000 and/or five years in prison.


So I guess it's a good thing he kept her $5000 then
 
2021-10-24 5:21:51 PM  

Likwit: The dealership model needs to die


Wouldn't help in this situation. This is not a new car dealer.
 
2021-10-24 5:27:42 PM  

RolandTGunner: "Helpless, she knew she'd Better Call Behnken. "

The series that could have saved Quibi.


Quibi wasnt worth saving in the first place.
 
2021-10-24 5:28:48 PM  

Psychopompous: [thumbs.gfycat.com image 280x151]
Seems on the up-and-up to me.


That scene will never stop being awesome to watch.
 
2021-10-24 5:32:46 PM  

grimlock1972: shut it down and cancel the all applicable licenses tied to the business and it's owner.


Just the paragraph about how the refund was processed should get their CC privileges revoked.
The owner has been doing this for a long time.
 
2021-10-24 5:33:40 PM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: FTFA:
So this story isn't over.
Auto View's manager says he only paid Chloe $1,000 because he thought she received the rest through a credit card chargeback.
When 8 On Your Side showed his staff her bank records that shows he reversed that chargeback, the dealership insists they don't have the money back - yet - but when they do... they say they'll return it.

Hell no.  She should have never accepted the $1,000 check.  You pay me EVERY GAWDDAMNED PENNY RIGHT NOW.  Call the cops and file a police report.  Guarantee he'll pay her right away.  If not, straight to Small Claims Court.  These jack holes always put the onus on the party they screwed over and will use a strategy of wearing down their mark with empty promises.  Be a hard-ass and ignore the thief's complaints that you're being unreasonable.


Exactly.
 
2021-10-24 5:36:20 PM  
Looks like Big Bill has some competition.

Funny Car Commercial Parody
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2021-10-24 6:19:14 PM  

Lsherm: Carter Pewterschmidt: Lsherm: Every single detail about this dealership sounds sketchy as fark.

It's a dealership.

Are there any that aren't sketchy as fark?

And if you're that broke why are you buying a car from a dealership? For $5k you could by a car privately that will be fine. You could buy one for $4k and keep the other thousand for any unexpected repairs. But cars these days are far more reliable than they used to be. I've bought cars off ebay for under £500 that have been in great condition and been reliable. In her position I'd far rather pay $1000 and have 4k in the bank than stretch myself buying from a dealership and saddling myself with a monthly payment I might struggle to keep.

It is very difficult to finance a POS car in the US, which is why these dealers exist. If you can't come up with ten grand in cash for a decent car, these guys will sell you a car worth 7 grand for 10 grand with financing. Banks won't lend you money for an old car, so you're over a barrel when it comes to dealers.


This whole thing makes my brain hurt.

FTFA:

"After forking over the down payment- and before driving the car off the lot - she noticed the car wasn't in the advertised "excellent" condition. She says the dealership promised to make it right with a promissory note detailing repairs."

"She says those repairs weren't made and even worse she discovered a Carfax report showing 172,434 miles, not the 115,000 listed in the ad."


She paid money without actually seeing the car?  Jesus farking Christ in a biscuit!  What does the farking odometer say?  Is it 172,434 and she didn't even check?  Note it talks about the Carfax vs. the ad.

Now, a step beyond that...

I'm depressed," she said. "I barely have money in my account. I saved that money. I've been working for that money for almost a year, and I invested that in a car, and it all got taken away from me, and I don't even have a car."

So, she was about to empty her life savings... Less than $10,000 mind you, on a *down payment* for a used car from a shady shiathole dealership in the farking hood next "Mac's Motel."

I feel like I need to do a fraud check on my account just for clicking on the business in Google Maps:

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(That is the "owner provided" photo)

Seriously... it's next door to this:
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It gets better.  A used luxury car.  She apparently doesn't have a car now, her net worth is the value of two midrange MacBooks, and she's going to dump it all on a farking luxury car?  It's the American tradition: make yourself poorer trying to not look poor.

I sincerely hope she gets her money back and this dealership gets spritzed with Raid.  It won't matter - they'll just open a new shiat-hole lot selling overpriced cars to poor who don't want to look poor in another city or state with a new LLC name. But maybe at least the Pee-pee slap will sting for a few minutes.

But... This woman needs to get Britney'd.  She's too farking dumb to manage her own affairs.  She gets a court appointed guardian to manage her finances, because she's apparently incapable to do it on her own.

Jesus farking Christ that state can't sink into the muck of the gulf soon enough.
 
2021-10-24 6:21:14 PM  

AirForceVet: Chief Superintendent Lookout: dustman81: Chief Superintendent Lookout: FTFA:
So this story isn't over.
Auto View's manager says he only paid Chloe $1,000 because he thought she received the rest through a credit card chargeback.
When 8 On Your Side showed his staff her bank records that shows he reversed that chargeback, the dealership insists they don't have the money back - yet - but when they do... they say they'll return it.

Hell no.  She should have never accepted the $1,000 check.  You pay me EVERY GAWDDAMNED PENNY RIGHT NOW.  Call the cops and file a police report.  Guarantee he'll pay her right away.  If not, straight to Small Claims Court.  These jack holes always put the onus on the party they screwed over and will use a strategy of wearing down their mark with empty promises.  Be a hard-ass and ignore the thief's complaints that you're being unreasonable.

I would have demanded in cash. Just because he writes a check, doesn't mean it'll be good.

A bounced check looks even better as evidence in a Small Claims action.

Oh, this is beyond Small Claims Court. We're into grand thief, fraud and other felonies now.


Haha, no.

When a person steals from a business, it's a crime. When a business steals from a person, it's a civil action. Why do you think the cops will show up if a Walmart cashier takes $20 from the till but dgaf if Walmart stiffs 100 cashiers for $100 on their checks.
 
2021-10-24 6:52:18 PM  
Let us not forget, dealership repair shops are also sketchy as fark. Just sayin'.
 
2021-10-24 7:10:35 PM  
Any Tampa Farkers here? I'm not from Tampa, but I know that the only thing Nebraska Avenue is good for is shady used car lots (like the one from this article), and hookers. In fact, I believe Carole Baskin was "working" Nebraska when she met her late first husband.

Nebraska Avenue reeks of despair and destitution.
 
2021-10-24 7:51:24 PM  

thomasvista: Any Tampa Farkers here? I'm not from Tampa, but I know that the only thing Nebraska Avenue is good for is shady used car lots (like the one from this article), and hookers. In fact, I believe Carole Baskin was "working" Nebraska when she met her late first husband.

Nebraska Avenue reeks of despair and destitution.


So, just like it's namesake then
 
2021-10-24 8:24:20 PM  
And that's another reason a free press is vital to a free enterprise economy.

The only way to get a certain type of "job creator" to keep his end of a bargain is to get the local paper or TV news involved.
 
2021-10-24 8:47:44 PM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: dustman81: Chief Superintendent Lookout: FTFA:
So this story isn't over.
Auto View's manager says he only paid Chloe $1,000 because he thought she received the rest through a credit card chargeback.
When 8 On Your Side showed his staff her bank records that shows he reversed that chargeback, the dealership insists they don't have the money back - yet - but when they do... they say they'll return it.

Hell no.  She should have never accepted the $1,000 check.  You pay me EVERY GAWDDAMNED PENNY RIGHT NOW.  Call the cops and file a police report.  Guarantee he'll pay her right away.  If not, straight to Small Claims Court.  These jack holes always put the onus on the party they screwed over and will use a strategy of wearing down their mark with empty promises.  Be a hard-ass and ignore the thief's complaints that you're being unreasonable.

I would have demanded in cash. Just because he writes a check, doesn't mean it'll be good.

A bounced check looks even better as evidence in a Small Claims action.


What's the max limit nowadays for small claims? Last I heard, about 20 years ago, it was $2,500. And if you win, you can get 3x, so up to $7,500 back then.
 
2021-10-24 8:53:56 PM  
A car salesman that's dishonest?  I'm shocked!
 
2021-10-24 9:09:36 PM  
I'm beginning to think that these used car salesmen aren't the straight shooters they've been advertised as.
 
2021-10-24 10:04:31 PM  
I'm the girl from this video. I just turned 18 , you say to me I'm poor trying to make myself look less poor, to that I tell you that I would rather invest in a good car that will last me years rather than buying a cheap car that will break down a lot & have to spend more $ on repairs. Obviously, this car was not as good as I thought, or else I wouldn't have bought it.  Acura TL's are good cars and when maintained well I've seen them go over 300,000 miles. So calling me dumb for wanting a good car that was listed for 7k that I thought would last me years instead of getting a cheaper car that probably wouldn't last as long I don't believe equates me as dumb maybe not as knowledgeable as I could have been but again I'm a little girl I turned 18 like 3 months ago just graduated high school , & for 7grand I thought it was a steal & at the time I bought this Acura I had the money to continue monthly payments + pay car insurance. I wanted to be an owner of a car. The reason why I said "I barely have money in my account" is because at the time, the job I worked at everyone got infested with COVID and stayed open so I ended up leaving. So me losing 5k to the Acura + leaving my job, not having constant income was depressing. I viewed & test drove the car before I bought it, it seemed like a good car that's why I was interested and the workers at Autoview made it seem like they were a family owned friendly business. Kevin Santiago & Ahmed Abuelenen told me things like "we want all our customers to come back so we try to give them the best service possible" Kevin and Ahmed also reassured me many times that "we have test driven this car many times, and have it looked at by our best mechanics, there is nothing wrong with this car" the reason why I bought the Acura at the time is yes, i wanted this car, but also Autoview LLC made me believe that I was supporting a family business and that my business was appreciated. They manipulated me well , of course that is what used dealerships do so it was not surprising. I also did not go to the dealership alone & we also got them to raise the Acura up so we can look at the bottom for any problems. As far as I was concerned the only problems on the Acura were minor & cosmetic. Which is why again I was willing to pay the money and keep this car for years.
Yes I made a mistake, I'm only learning.
 
2021-10-24 10:07:36 PM  

Russ1642: Used car dealer acts exactly like a used car dealer. News, at 11.


Richard Nixon's ghost outside shoulda told ya.
 
2021-10-24 10:28:59 PM  

Izunbacol: Lsherm: Carter Pewterschmidt: Lsherm: Every single detail about this dealership sounds sketchy as fark.

It's a dealership.

Are there any that aren't sketchy as fark?

And if you're that broke why are you buying a car from a dealership? For $5k you could by a car privately that will be fine. You could buy one for $4k and keep the other thousand for any unexpected repairs. But cars these days are far more reliable than they used to be. I've bought cars off ebay for under £500 that have been in great condition and been reliable. In her position I'd far rather pay $1000 and have 4k in the bank than stretch myself buying from a dealership and saddling myself with a monthly payment I might struggle to keep.

It is very difficult to finance a POS car in the US, which is why these dealers exist. If you can't come up with ten grand in cash for a decent car, these guys will sell you a car worth 7 grand for 10 grand with financing. Banks won't lend you money for an old car, so you're over a barrel when it comes to dealers.

This whole thing makes my brain hurt.

FTFA:

"After forking over the down payment- and before driving the car off the lot - she noticed the car wasn't in the advertised "excellent" condition. She says the dealership promised to make it right with a promissory note detailing repairs."

"She says those repairs weren't made and even worse she discovered a Carfax report showing 172,434 miles, not the 115,000 listed in the ad."

She paid money without actually seeing the car?  Jesus farking Christ in a biscuit!  What does the farking odometer say?  Is it 172,434 and she didn't even check?  Note it talks about the Carfax vs. the ad.

Now, a step beyond that...

I'm depressed," she said. "I barely have money in my account. I saved that money. I've been working for that money for almost a year, and I invested that in a car, and it all got taken away from me, and I don't even have a car."

So, she was about to empty her life savings... Less than $10,000 mind you, on a *down payment* for a used car from a shady shiathole dealership in the farking hood next "Mac's Motel."

I feel like I need to do a fraud check on my account just for clicking on the business in Google Maps:

[Fark user image image 616x464]
(That is the "owner provided" photo)

Seriously... it's next door to this:
[Fark user image image 850x507]

It gets better.  A used luxury car.  She apparently doesn't have a car now, her net worth is the value of two midrange MacBooks, and she's going to dump it all on a farking luxury car?  It's the American tradition: make yourself poorer trying to not look poor.

I sincerely hope she gets her money back and this dealership gets spritzed with Raid.  It won't matter - they'll just open a new shiat-hole lot selling overpriced cars to poor who don't want to look poor in another city or state with a new LLC name. But maybe at least the Pee-pee slap will sting for a few minutes.

But... This woman needs to get Britney'd.  She's too farking dumb to manage her own affairs.  She gets a court appointed guardian to manage her finances, because she's apparently incapable to do it on her own.

Jesus farking Christ that state can't sink into the muck of the gulf soon enough.


you do realize you're saying this about a girl who just graduated high school
 
2021-10-24 11:03:18 PM  

dericwater: Chief Superintendent Lookout: dustman81: Chief Superintendent Lookout: FTFA:
So this story isn't over.
Auto View's manager says he only paid Chloe $1,000 because he thought she received the rest through a credit card chargeback.
When 8 On Your Side showed his staff her bank records that shows he reversed that chargeback, the dealership insists they don't have the money back - yet - but when they do... they say they'll return it.

Hell no.  She should have never accepted the $1,000 check.  You pay me EVERY GAWDDAMNED PENNY RIGHT NOW.  Call the cops and file a police report.  Guarantee he'll pay her right away.  If not, straight to Small Claims Court.  These jack holes always put the onus on the party they screwed over and will use a strategy of wearing down their mark with empty promises.  Be a hard-ass and ignore the thief's complaints that you're being unreasonable.

I would have demanded in cash. Just because he writes a check, doesn't mean it'll be good.

A bounced check looks even better as evidence in a Small Claims action.

What's the max limit nowadays for small claims? Last I heard, about 20 years ago, it was $2,500. And if you win, you can get 3x, so up to $7,500 back then.


It depends on the State Statute.  I'm too lazy to look it up for Floriduh right now, but I bet this amount is well within the limits.
 
2021-10-24 11:12:09 PM  
How morally corrupt are used car salesmen? My father sold both of my brothers lemons. He was upset when I didn't call him when I bought my first car and I told him "I wanted a car that would last over a year."
 
2021-10-24 11:33:49 PM  

Linux_Yes: Lsherm: Carter Pewterschmidt: Lsherm: Every single detail about this dealership sounds sketchy as fark.

It's a dealership.

Are there any that aren't sketchy as fark?

And if you're that broke why are you buying a car from a dealership? For $5k you could by a car privately that will be fine. You could buy one for $4k and keep the other thousand for any unexpected repairs. But cars these days are far more reliable than they used to be. I've bought cars off ebay for under £500 that have been in great condition and been reliable. In her position I'd far rather pay $1000 and have 4k in the bank than stretch myself buying from a dealership and saddling myself with a monthly payment I might struggle to keep.

It is very difficult to finance a POS car in the US, which is why these dealers exist. If you can't come up with ten grand in cash for a decent car, these guys will sell you a car worth 7 grand for 10 grand with financing. Banks won't lend you money for an old car, so you're over a barrel when it comes to dealers.

Used car salesman capitalism at its finest


I didn't want to put 5k down , at Autoview LLC you have to put 70% of the down payment down to finance with them.
That was a red flag, my mistake. Only learning...
 
2021-10-24 11:38:50 PM  

Izunbacol: Lsherm: Carter Pewterschmidt: Lsherm: Every single detail about this dealership sounds sketchy as fark.

It's a dealership.

Are there any that aren't sketchy as fark?

And if you're that broke why are you buying a car from a dealership? For $5k you could by a car privately that will be fine. You could buy one for $4k and keep the other thousand for any unexpected repairs. But cars these days are far more reliable than they used to be. I've bought cars off ebay for under £500 that have been in great condition and been reliable. In her position I'd far rather pay $1000 and have 4k in the bank than stretch myself buying from a dealership and saddling myself with a monthly payment I might struggle to keep.

It is very difficult to finance a POS car in the US, which is why these dealers exist. If you can't come up with ten grand in cash for a decent car, these guys will sell you a car worth 7 grand for 10 grand with financing. Banks won't lend you money for an old car, so you're over a barrel when it comes to dealers.

This whole thing makes my brain hurt.

FTFA:

"After forking over the down payment- and before driving the car off the lot - she noticed the car wasn't in the advertised "excellent" condition. She says the dealership promised to make it right with a promissory note detailing repairs."

"She says those repairs weren't made and even worse she discovered a Carfax report showing 172,434 miles, not the 115,000 listed in the ad."

She paid money without actually seeing the car?  Jesus farking Christ in a biscuit!  What does the farking odometer say?  Is it 172,434 and she didn't even check?  Note it talks about the Carfax vs. the ad.

Now, a step beyond that...

I'm depressed," she said. "I barely have money in my account. I saved that money. I've been working for that money for almost a year, and I invested that in a car, and it all got taken away from me, and I don't even have a car."

So, she was about to empty her life savings... Less than $10,000 mind you, on a *down payment* for a used car from a shady shiathole dealership in the farking hood next "Mac's Motel."

I feel like I need to do a fraud check on my account just for clicking on the business in Google Maps:

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(That is the "owner provided" photo)

Seriously... it's next door to this:
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It gets better.  A used luxury car.  She apparently doesn't have a car now, her net worth is the value of two midrange MacBooks, and she's going to dump it all on a farking luxury car?  It's the American tradition: make yourself poorer trying to not look poor.

I sincerely hope she gets her money back and this dealership gets spritzed with Raid.  It won't matter - they'll just open a new shiat-hole lot selling overpriced cars to poor who don't want to look poor in another city or state with a new LLC name. But maybe at least the Pee-pee slap will sting for a few minutes.

But... This woman needs to get Britney'd.  She's too farking dumb to manage her own affairs.  She gets a court appointed guardian to manage her finances, because she's apparently incapable to do it on her own.

Jesus farking Christ that state can't sink into the muck of the gulf soon enough.


I know of used car dealerships on Nebraska that are near Autoview LLC such as M&M motors of Tampa. an honest used car dealership, I've had many friends go there and buy cars with no problems. Only reason why I didn't go there is because they were having a shortage of cars. So what is your connection with that, & why do you sound so hateful towards a little girl lol
 
2021-10-24 11:45:16 PM  
Lmaoooo M&M motors of Tampa use to be good idk what happened but I had friends buy from them no problem, still have their car til this day. Probably new management
 
2021-10-24 11:46:15 PM  

chloeannaman: I'm the girl from this video. I just turned 18 , you say to me I'm poor trying to make myself look less poor, to that I tell you that I would rather invest in a good car that will last me years rather than buying a cheap car that will break down a lot & have to spend more $ on repairs. Obviously, this car was not as good as I thought, or else I wouldn't have bought it.  Acura TL's are good cars and when maintained well I've seen them go over 300,000 miles. So calling me dumb for wanting a good car that was listed for 7k that I thought would last me years instead of getting a cheaper car that probably wouldn't last as long I don't believe equates me as dumb maybe not as knowledgeable as I could have been but again I'm a little girl I turned 18 like 3 months ago just graduated high school , & for 7grand I thought it was a steal & at the time I bought this Acura I had the money to continue monthly payments + pay car insurance. I wanted to be an owner of a car. The reason why I said "I barely have money in my account" is because at the time, the job I worked at everyone got infested with COVID and stayed open so I ended up leaving. So me losing 5k to the Acura + leaving my job, not having constant income was depressing. I viewed & test drove the car before I bought it, it seemed like a good car that's why I was interested and the workers at Autoview made it seem like they were a family owned friendly business. Kevin Santiago & Ahmed Abuelenen told me things like "we want all our customers to come back so we try to give them the best service possible" Kevin and Ahmed also reassured me many times that "we have test driven this car many times, and have it looked at by our best mechanics, there is nothing wrong with this car" the reason why I bought the Acura at the time is yes, i wanted this car, but also Autoview LLC made me believe that I was supporting a family business and that my business was appreciated. They manipulated me well , of course that is what used dealerships do so it was not surprising. I also did not go to the dealership alone & we also got them to raise the Acura up so we can look at the bottom for any problems. As far as I was concerned the only problems on the Acura were minor & cosmetic. Which is why again I was willing to pay the money and keep this car for years.
Yes I made a mistake, I'm only learning.


Jesus Christ, that's a long haul joke to create a profile and buy TF to tell it.
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2021-10-25 1:30:05 AM  

chloeannaman: I'm the girl from this video. I just turned 18 , you say to me I'm poor trying to make myself look less poor, to that I tell you that I would rather invest in a good car that will last me years rather than buying a cheap car that will break down a lot & have to spend more $ on repairs. Obviously, this car was not as good as I thought, or else I wouldn't have bought it.  Acura TL's are good cars and when maintained well I've seen them go over 300,000 miles. So calling me dumb for wanting a good car that was listed for 7k that I thought would last me years instead of getting a cheaper car that probably wouldn't last as long I don't believe equates me as dumb maybe not as knowledgeable as I could have been but again I'm a little girl I turned 18 like 3 months ago just graduated high school , & for 7grand I thought it was a steal & at the time I bought this Acura I had the money to continue monthly payments + pay car insurance. I wanted to be an owner of a car. The reason why I said "I barely have money in my account" is because at the time, the job I worked at everyone got infested with COVID and stayed open so I ended up leaving. So me losing 5k to the Acura + leaving my job, not having constant income was depressing. I viewed & test drove the car before I bought it, it seemed like a good car that's why I was interested and the workers at Autoview made it seem like they were a family owned friendly business. Kevin Santiago & Ahmed Abuelenen told me things like "we want all our customers to come back so we try to give them the best service possible" Kevin and Ahmed also reassured me many times that "we have test driven this car many times, and have it looked at by our best mechanics, there is nothing wrong with this car" the reason why I bought the Acura at the time is yes, i wanted this car, but also Autoview LLC made me believe that I was supporting a family business and that my business was appreciated. They manipulated me well , of course that is what used dealersh ...


Nothing is obscure on FARK!

Well, I am a little more sympathetic than most. There is a perspective on finance and contracts and things like this that a lot of people do not get, which is that people, umm plain folk, who just assume that things are done in ways that they do not understand and can't change. They accept conditions and explanations that they should never accept. Then they get burned and look stupid.

Apparently, annual interest rates on payday loans in Canada can be 45% or something like that. Most people would be shocked that it is even legal, but people can and do accept terms like that to get cash. What is going to really bake your noodle is that they tell applicants that they have to agree and sign before they can print out the contract. "because it is all in the computer."

People get into chicken and egg situations where they need a car to get a job to get money to afford a car, etc. So some guy dangling a Honda can probably get someone on the hook, given enough time.

I have been on both sides of crappy crap like this. I wish I had been the rich me giving the poor me a break when I needed it. That would have been nice. Unfortunately, people on either side of deals like this wind up being untrustworthy, and it ends badly.
 
2021-10-25 1:55:58 AM  

mybluemake: chloeannaman: I'm the girl from this video. I just turned 18 , you say to me I'm poor trying to make myself look less poor, to that I tell you that I would rather invest in a good car that will last me years rather than buying a cheap car that will break down a lot & have to spend more $ on repairs. Obviously, this car was not as good as I thought, or else I wouldn't have bought it.  Acura TL's are good cars and when maintained well I've seen them go over 300,000 miles. So calling me dumb for wanting a good car that was listed for 7k that I thought would last me years instead of getting a cheaper car that probably wouldn't last as long I don't believe equates me as dumb maybe not as knowledgeable as I could have been but again I'm a little girl I turned 18 like 3 months ago just graduated high school , & for 7grand I thought it was a steal & at the time I bought this Acura I had the money to continue monthly payments + pay car insurance. I wanted to be an owner of a car. The reason why I said "I barely have money in my account" is because at the time, the job I worked at everyone got infested with COVID and stayed open so I ended up leaving. So me losing 5k to the Acura + leaving my job, not having constant income was depressing. I viewed & test drove the car before I bought it, it seemed like a good car that's why I was interested and the workers at Autoview made it seem like they were a family owned friendly business. Kevin Santiago & Ahmed Abuelenen told me things like "we want all our customers to come back so we try to give them the best service possible" Kevin and Ahmed also reassured me many times that "we have test driven this car many times, and have it looked at by our best mechanics, there is nothing wrong with this car" the reason why I bought the Acura at the time is yes, i wanted this car, but also Autoview LLC made me believe that I was supporting a family business and that my business was appreciated. They manipulated me well , of course that is what ...


Did you click on the wrong profile? Because they don't have TF. a
 
2021-10-25 6:17:47 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Lsherm: Every single detail about this dealership sounds sketchy as fark.

It's a dealership.

Are there any that aren't sketchy as fark?

And if you're that broke why are you buying a car from a dealership? For $5k you could by a car privately that will be fine. You could buy one for $4k and keep the other thousand for any unexpected repairs. But cars these days are far more reliable than they used to be. I've bought cars off ebay for under £500 that have been in great condition and been reliable. In her position I'd far rather pay $1000 and have 4k in the bank than stretch myself buying from a dealership and saddling myself with a monthly payment I might struggle to keep.


You are not familiar with the current car market.
 
2021-10-25 9:39:29 AM  
credit must be in the pooper if you have to front 5 large
 
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