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(KDRV Medford)   Oregon: "We're on the brink of being forced to cede control of three counties in our state to cartel weed growers. Please send in the FBI"   (kdrv.com) divider line
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2021-10-24 6:24:42 AM  
Prohibition problems. They linger don't they? Should've legalized it back when we told you to .

Spend some weeks living near a border crossing in Mexico and get back to me.
 
2021-10-24 7:18:52 AM  
He still found a way to blame it all on "illegal immigrants" so he's welcome at the Country Club.
 
2021-10-24 7:24:08 AM  
Bentz named Jackson, Josephine and Klamath counties, and said that just one county in the region produces an estimated revenue in excess of $13.5 billion for illegal growers.

Bullshiat.
 
2021-10-24 7:25:27 AM  
LOL no one cares about your "Reefer Madness" anymore!
 
2021-10-24 7:26:18 AM  
Weedlords today, Bonerhitlers tomorrow.
 
2021-10-24 7:29:57 AM  
"Bentz said the school board memo shows a misprioritization of issues by the Attorney General"

Well, maybe if conservatives started acting normal at school board meetings, it wouldn't reach up to this level.
 
2021-10-24 7:32:42 AM  
With their legal smoke being dirt cheap I have  o idea why there are still illegal operations.

Ohh, in places where they banned legal marijuana, got it.
 
2021-10-24 7:38:32 AM  

Bowen: You guys smoke weed. We get it. But if you're a legit operation paying taxes, workers comp, and full price for water rights you shouldn't have to compete with people that are just doing whatever they want.


If it was legal at the Federal level, we wouldn't be having this conversation as the environment that allows for this are the remaining prohibitions.
 
2021-10-24 7:39:07 AM  
Bentz told Merrick that his agency and the Federal Bureau of Investigation "needs to be doing something about it at all the levels that you can."

Like legalising it?
 
2021-10-24 7:39:56 AM  
Legal weed makes cartel operations almost redundant except for the states which haven't legalized.
 
2021-10-24 7:40:40 AM  
My southern Oregon county, (Douglas) has asked the state for help. Nobody is afraid to leave their homes. Nobody is even noticing. Even the local red-necks are baffled by this move. There must be state or federal money here to be grabbed. Or political points
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2021-10-24 7:41:09 AM  
Yeah, I don't get this one...  See, according to this site, weed is legal in Oregon.
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So...  Why is there a problem growing it?  It seems like a pretty stupid law for it to be legal to own. buy, and smoke, but not to grow.

So the simple solution is, LEGALIZE IT, you farking morons!!!  Stop biatching that illegal activity is taking place, only because you refuse to make it legal.

Also - your law is making it so those people can exploit cheap illegal labor too.  So there is an additional human cost here.

How do you people function with your heads so far up your asses?!
 
2021-10-24 7:41:31 AM  

spiralscratch: Bentz named Jackson, Josephine and Klamath counties, and said that just one county in the region produces an estimated revenue in excess of $13.5 billion for illegal growers.

Bullshiat.


Almost certainly bullshiat, but even 1% of that made up number is still a stupid amount of money.

I'm sure if the feds go in and burn it all down illegal weed growing will magically just stop forever.

Morons.
 
2021-10-24 7:43:40 AM  

WordsnCollision: Weedlords today, Bonerhitlers tomorrow.


Unfortunately, this looks like southwestern Oregon, not southeastern where the Bundy boys like to hang out.  My hopes for a shooting war between a bunch of wannabe-militia Trumpists and the cartels, which would've solved at least one problem, are dashed.
 
2021-10-24 7:45:48 AM  

Bowen: You guys smoke weed. We get it. But if you're a legit operation paying taxes, workers comp, and full price for water rights you shouldn't have to compete with people that are just doing whatever they want.


Yeah, but politicians needlessly going Chicken Little over it and throwing around fake numbers that would make a cop blush isn't helping any.

/not a pot smoker, don't care if others do.
 
2021-10-24 7:49:02 AM  

johnphantom: LOL no one cares about your "Reefer Madness" anymore!


No, but once big money is involved, I am concerned with that kind of madness.
 
2021-10-24 7:54:02 AM  

NathanAllen: With their legal smoke being dirt cheap I have  o idea why there are still illegal operations.

Ohh, in places where they banned legal marijuana, got it.


I imagine most of it goes to California:  https://www.politico.com​/news/2021/10/​23/california-legal-illicit-weed-marke​t-516868?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=we​bsite&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
 
2021-10-24 7:55:56 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: He still found a way to blame it all on "illegal immigrants" so he's welcome at the Country Club.


Yup. And they managed to work "cartel" into the article several times. I'm so scared!
 
2021-10-24 8:04:51 AM  
Just because weed has been made legal to purchase and possess, as well as grow in a licensed setting, doesn't mean that large industrial illegal grows don't still occur in the backwoods, run by off the grid operators.

And those operations are problematic -- in its environmental impacts, and it's human impacts. Anything industrial scale that is not regulated means anything can happen, and it usually does.
 
2021-10-24 8:09:35 AM  
And here I was thinking Cartel Tycoon was still in development.
 
2021-10-24 8:16:21 AM  

yohohogreengiant: Prohibition problems. They linger don't they? Should've legalized it back when we told you to .

Spend some weeks living near a border crossing in Mexico and get back to me.


I didn't know you were pixie's alt.
 
2021-10-24 8:16:50 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: He still found a way to blame it all on "illegal immigrants" so he's welcome at the Country Club.

He said local police are watching the problem, including how drug cartels use the possibility of immigration to keep immigrant workers indebted to work for illegal drug operations.


Is he scared they be taking away jerbs from the hard working red neck MAGA hats in the off book herb trade in back woods Oregon?
 
2021-10-24 8:19:35 AM  

Call the Guy: NathanAllen: With their legal smoke being dirt cheap I have  o idea why there are still illegal operations.

Ohh, in places where they banned legal marijuana, got it.

I imagine most of it goes to California:  https://www.politico.com/​news/2021/10/23/california-legal-illic​it-weed-market-516868?utm_source=fark&​utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&IC​ID=ref_fark


Yeah, this is kind of odd:

"Rather than make cannabis a Main Street fixture, California's strict regulations have led most industry operators to close shop, flee the state or sell in the state's illegal market that approaches $8 billion annually, twice the volume of legal sales."

First, there's legit operators everywhere you look, at least down here.

Second, there's that number again. Where are they getting that magical sum?
 
2021-10-24 8:20:51 AM  
"The Representative said the illegal production of cannabis and marijuana..."

Ah.  The growers who don't get business permits, don't pay any sales or business taxes, and don't make campaign contributions (or they do, but to The Representative's opposition).

I think I see the problem here.
 
2021-10-24 8:21:18 AM  
Let's not bury the lead here, this was at a hearing about threats to school officials.  The GOP would rather rant about the hippy lettuce then keep their constituents safe.
 
2021-10-24 8:21:30 AM  

WordsnCollision: Weedlords today, Bonerhitlers tomorrow.


Add to favorites...
 
2021-10-24 8:23:14 AM  
Yeah I heard all the kids are injecting it and dying in the streets, just like Becky. More deaths from the illegal weed than covid I'll bet, it killed 150% of the people there.
 
2021-10-24 8:23:54 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Call the Guy: NathanAllen: With their legal smoke being dirt cheap I have  o idea why there are still illegal operations.

Ohh, in places where they banned legal marijuana, got it.

I imagine most of it goes to California:  https://www.politico.com/​news/2021/10/23/california-legal-illic​it-weed-market-516868?utm_source=fark&​utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&IC​ID=ref_fark

Yeah, this is kind of odd:

"Rather than make cannabis a Main Street fixture, California's strict regulations have led most industry operators to close shop, flee the state or sell in the state's illegal market that approaches $8 billion annually, twice the volume of legal sales."

First, there's legit operators everywhere you look, at least down here.

Second, there's that number again. Where are they getting that magical sum?


Two months ago I started ordering from a new vendor on a dark market, he has a large "brand name" assortment of 1 gram 510 thread vape cartridges. I've gotten 3 types so far, what it looks like to me is that a shop closed down out in Cali and they are liquidating their stock. Only bulk buys, like 10-15 1 gram vapes at a time, and the packaging at least looks correct.

//just my 2 cents
 
2021-10-24 8:27:29 AM  

RasIanI: "Bentz said the school board memo shows a misprioritization of issues by the Attorney General"

Well, maybe if conservatives started acting normal at school board meetings, it wouldn't reach up to this level.


If he's that concerned with illegal grows (13 billions, right) he should take it up with the Governor to encourage her to request DEA help.  The guy's full of crap.
 
2021-10-24 8:27:51 AM  
Let those counties form their State of Jefferson and then it's not Oregon's problems.
 
2021-10-24 8:30:55 AM  
Qanon tries to distract government business. Film at 11.
 
2021-10-24 8:31:01 AM  
It's amazing how these people who claim to be all "boot strappy" always look to big government when they can't seem to get those boots on.
 
2021-10-24 8:32:05 AM  

Laobaojun: "The Representative said the illegal production of cannabis and marijuana..."

Ah.  The growers who don't get business permits, don't pay any sales or business taxes, and don't make campaign contributions (or they do, but to The Representative's opposition).

I think I see the problem here.


Yes, it is a problem that they evade taxes and regulation, good point.
 
2021-10-24 8:36:44 AM  
This is an Oregon problem.  They have a law, and they have law enforcement, and the illegal weed is in Oregon.  So it's an Oregon problem and a hyperventilating State Congressman doesn't really have the authority to ask for Federal help.
 
2021-10-24 8:37:55 AM  

Flappyhead: Let's not bury the lead here, this was at a hearing about threats to school officials.  The GOP would rather rant about the hippy lettuce then keep their constituents safe.


Thank you.  This has nothing to do with legalizing weed or crime.  It's just a cheap ploy to score political points on the memo about parents and violence at school board meetings and such.
 
2021-10-24 8:38:26 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Laobaojun: "The Representative said the illegal production of cannabis and marijuana..."

Ah.  The growers who don't get business permits, don't pay any sales or business taxes, and don't make campaign contributions (or they do, but to The Representative's opposition).

I think I see the problem here.

Yes, it is a problem that they evade taxes and regulation, good point.


Well how are they supposed to follow the regulations when it is literally against the law?
 
2021-10-24 8:39:16 AM  

RasIanI: Just because weed has been made legal to purchase and possess, as well as grow in a licensed setting, doesn't mean that large industrial illegal grows don't still occur in the backwoods, run by off the grid operators.

And those operations are problematic -- in its environmental impacts, and it's human impacts. Anything industrial scale that is not regulated means anything can happen, and it usually does.


Agreed.  That's not really the issue here.  What's happening here is the GQP using considerable hyperbole to criticize DOJ for investigating poor concerned parents who are harmlessly leveling death threats against school boards when they really ought to be doing the DEA's job running around the Oregon woods busting grow ops.  He's just shoehorning dumb GQP talking points into the hearing.
 
2021-10-24 8:40:58 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: He still found a way to blame it all on "illegal immigrants" so he's welcome at the Country Club.


I don't think he did. He said they were using immigrants as forced labor adding a slavery dimension to the problem. In other words, the problem isn't that the devil's salad is being cultivated but that immigrants are being abused in the process.
 
2021-10-24 8:41:17 AM  

johnphantom: Gyrfalcon: Call the Guy: NathanAllen: With their legal smoke being dirt cheap I have  o idea why there are still illegal operations.

Ohh, in places where they banned legal marijuana, got it.

I imagine most of it goes to California:  https://www.politico.com/​news/2021/10/23/california-legal-illic​it-weed-market-516868?utm_source=fark&​utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&IC​ID=ref_fark

Yeah, this is kind of odd:

"Rather than make cannabis a Main Street fixture, California's strict regulations have led most industry operators to close shop, flee the state or sell in the state's illegal market that approaches $8 billion annually, twice the volume of legal sales."

First, there's legit operators everywhere you look, at least down here.

Second, there's that number again. Where are they getting that magical sum?

Two months ago I started ordering from a new vendor on a dark market, he has a large "brand name" assortment of 1 gram 510 thread vape cartridges. I've gotten 3 types so far, what it looks like to me is that a shop closed down out in Cali and they are liquidating their stock. Only bulk buys, like 10-15 1 gram vapes at a time, and the packaging at least looks correct.

//just my 2 cents


Proves nothing one way or the other.

...unless it cost EIGHT BILLION BITCOIN! [cue ominous music]
 
2021-10-24 8:42:29 AM  

wademh: Mr. Coffee Nerves: He still found a way to blame it all on "illegal immigrants" so he's welcome at the Country Club.

I don't think he did. He said they were using immigrants as forced labor adding a slavery dimension to the problem. In other words, the problem isn't that the devil's salad is being cultivated but that immigrants are being abused in the process.


Yes, I'm sure the GQP is ever so concerned about the poor abused illegal immigrants.
 
2021-10-24 8:43:09 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Laobaojun: "The Representative said the illegal production of cannabis and marijuana..."

Ah.  The growers who don't get business permits, don't pay any sales or business taxes, and don't make campaign contributions (or they do, but to The Representative's opposition).

I think I see the problem here.

Yes, it is a problem that they evade taxes and regulation, good point.


Not to mention the death threats to local officials. If this were the Clive Bundy gang people on these boards would be calling for a Waco Siege; but, because it's precious marihuana it's minimised as no big deal.

Personally I am all for a Waco for these assholes.
 
2021-10-24 8:44:03 AM  

Gyrfalcon: johnphantom: Gyrfalcon: Call the Guy: NathanAllen: With their legal smoke being dirt cheap I have  o idea why there are still illegal operations.

Ohh, in places where they banned legal marijuana, got it.

I imagine most of it goes to California:  https://www.politico.com/​news/2021/10/23/california-legal-illic​it-weed-market-516868?utm_source=fark&​utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&IC​ID=ref_fark

Yeah, this is kind of odd:

"Rather than make cannabis a Main Street fixture, California's strict regulations have led most industry operators to close shop, flee the state or sell in the state's illegal market that approaches $8 billion annually, twice the volume of legal sales."

First, there's legit operators everywhere you look, at least down here.

Second, there's that number again. Where are they getting that magical sum?

Two months ago I started ordering from a new vendor on a dark market, he has a large "brand name" assortment of 1 gram 510 thread vape cartridges. I've gotten 3 types so far, what it looks like to me is that a shop closed down out in Cali and they are liquidating their stock. Only bulk buys, like 10-15 1 gram vapes at a time, and the packaging at least looks correct.

//just my 2 cents

Proves nothing one way or the other.

...unless it cost EIGHT BILLION BITCOIN! [cue ominous music]


Yeah I agree that sum is crazy, but some of it is real.
 
2021-10-24 8:44:49 AM  

Gyrfalcon: yohohogreengiant: Prohibition problems. They linger don't they? Should've legalized it back when we told you to .

Spend some weeks living near a border crossing in Mexico and get back to me.

I didn't know you were pixie's alt.


Lol.

Where is my mind?
 
2021-10-24 8:46:48 AM  
"Cop math"
 
2021-10-24 8:48:32 AM  

johnphantom: Gyrfalcon: johnphantom: Gyrfalcon: Call the Guy: NathanAllen: With their legal smoke being dirt cheap I have  o idea why there are still illegal operations.

Ohh, in places where they banned legal marijuana, got it.

I imagine most of it goes to California:  https://www.politico.com/​news/2021/10/23/california-legal-illic​it-weed-market-516868?utm_source=fark&​utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&IC​ID=ref_fark

Yeah, this is kind of odd:

"Rather than make cannabis a Main Street fixture, California's strict regulations have led most industry operators to close shop, flee the state or sell in the state's illegal market that approaches $8 billion annually, twice the volume of legal sales."

First, there's legit operators everywhere you look, at least down here.

Second, there's that number again. Where are they getting that magical sum?

Two months ago I started ordering from a new vendor on a dark market, he has a large "brand name" assortment of 1 gram 510 thread vape cartridges. I've gotten 3 types so far, what it looks like to me is that a shop closed down out in Cali and they are liquidating their stock. Only bulk buys, like 10-15 1 gram vapes at a time, and the packaging at least looks correct.

//just my 2 cents

Proves nothing one way or the other.

...unless it cost EIGHT BILLION BITCOIN! [cue ominous music]

Yeah I agree that sum is crazy, but some of it is real.


Also the fact that I am buying the cheap vapes from this vendor for $10 and the expensive ones at $15 with the rest in between, compared to the Florida dispensary $75 for one, indicates there is still to much regulation even in Oregon. It is a damn weed that with a little care can produce products like corn can, possibly not even as refined as corn can be and is used.
 
2021-10-24 8:51:02 AM  

johnphantom: still to much regulation even in Oregon.


Should have said Cali instead of Oregon.
 
2021-10-24 8:52:43 AM  
"He said local police are watching the problem"

If it's such a massive problem, maybe the police should be doing more than just watching it?
 
2021-10-24 8:53:02 AM  
The Representative said the illegal production of cannabis and marijuana in Southern Oregon has reached "an almost unbelievable industrial scale."

Okay, I'm obviously a square, but aren't cannabis and marijuana the same thing?
 
2021-10-24 8:54:49 AM  

johnphantom: Also the fact that I am buying the cheap vapes from this vendor for $10 and the expensive ones at $15 with the rest in between, compared to the Florida dispensary $75 for one, indicates there is still to much regulation even in Oregon. It is a damn weed that with a little care can produce products like corn can, possibly not even as refined as corn can be and is used.


You buy sketchy, unregulated vape fluid filled with god knows what from an illegal online vendor? And you willingly inhale the stuff?

No offence but you may want to reevaluate some of your life choices.
 
2021-10-24 8:55:04 AM  
"on the brink of" = we don't need help and probably won't.

the illegal production of cannabis and marijuana in Southern Oregon has reached "an almost unbelievable industrial scale." = currently at a believable scale.

Representative Bentz told Garland about a cartel exchange with an Oregon watermaster whose life was threatened when trying to enforce water usage policy.

Yes?  So...you did what about that then?  Asked them for contributions?  Told your brother to knock it off?

Republicans are filth.  Don't believe anything they say.
 
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