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(Yahoo)   He confronted and killed an unarmed man, 11 days later was arrested for it, and then was out of jail in just two hours. Welcome to being white in Texas   (yahoo.com) divider line
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2021-10-23 9:05:21 AM  
23 votes:

whosits_112: feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.

For once, you've said something not-stupid.


Are you new here? He says smarter things than 99% of the posers here.
 
2021-10-23 7:52:13 AM  
19 votes:

BizarreMan: whosits_112: feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.

For once, you've said something not-stupid.

Stopped clock, or exception make the rule rules?


What do you two have against Fecking?
 
2021-10-23 7:40:17 AM  
12 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: The best part is the DA is convening a Grand Jury on whom he can blame his failure to prosecute.


Nah. Grand Jury is the best place to sort out what level of Homicide is going to be appropriate.
 
2021-10-23 7:34:31 AM  
11 votes:

puffy999: puffy999: Despite Turner's claims, the probable cause affidavit states no guns were found inside of Dghoughi's car

Texas???

Burn. In. Hell.

Err, I meant that as a statement TOWARD Texas.


I figured the alternative was that you are from Texas, and you were condemning the victim for being unarmed.
 
2021-10-23 1:55:06 AM  
9 votes:
Shut up, commie.  😛

/I hate my state
 
2021-10-23 8:39:36 AM  
7 votes:

whosits_112: Gyrfalcon: Resident Muslim: Circusdog320: Reverse the situation... could you imagine the outrage from the right

I can't reach that stage of imagination...I can't imagine a brown/black person bonding out like that and in less than a couple of hours from arrest. Probably walked in and was directly processed in and out without even seeing a jail cell.


/in the spirit of fairness, the article doesn't attempt to answer why the deceased was there in the first place.
//assuming he was in the driveway in the first place
///no security cameras in the area?

There are any of a thousand reasons I can think of that are both farious and nefarious.

Maybe next time, call the cops and let them sort it out. Or just wait and see if the guy leaves, which is what I would do. Why was the shooter awake at 4 am locked and loaded protecting his driveway? What kind of maniac or meth dealer is up prowling around at 4 am?

Well, the article did say that the dude woke up to use the toilet. Glanced out the window and saw the stranger's car in his driveway. To be fair, I would have freaked too. Yet I would have called the cops, not gone out in my skivvies and waving a gun around.


A long time ago, and lived in a neighborhood that had a number of car break-ins. One morning @ 4am, I was awakened by the sound of breaking glass and two guys talking. When I heard more breaking glass and the guys getting closer, I peeked out the window, but couldn't see anything....so I grabbed the phone ready to call 911 as soon as I saw them try to break in a car.

As I heard more breaking glass, it got ready to dial.... Only to see the 4am garbage truck come rolling over the hill. Felt appropriately stupid and went back to bed.

/end CSB
 
2021-10-23 10:48:17 AM  
7 votes:

Latinwolf: AlwaysRightBoy: whosits_112: feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.

For once, you've said something not-stupid.

Are you new here? He says smarter things than 99% of the posers here.

Guy I have favored in Trump orange makes excuses for another guy I have favored in trump orange.  BTW by attempting to claim he's better than 99% of the posters here, you just made yourself out to be a bigger idiot than he is.


I have never advocated anything the idiot Trump spews ...and had to vote Democrat in the last two elections because of him.
Feckingmorons is a skilled master at making you Farkingmorons look stupid. Hell, half of you posers don't even know his handle is calling you morons.
 
2021-10-23 7:45:40 AM  
6 votes:
Wait, someone parks their car on someone else's driveway at 4:00am with their lights off. In Texas. And they thought they wouldn't get shot?
 
2021-10-23 2:02:37 AM  
5 votes:

puffy999: Despite Turner's claims, the probable cause affidavit states no guns were found inside of Dghoughi's car

Texas???

Burn. In. Hell.


Err, I meant that as a statement TOWARD Texas.
 
2021-10-23 8:57:49 AM  
5 votes:

Boo_Guy: "He pointed a gun at me and I shot," Turner said,


The Boondocks He Got a Gun
Youtube hY5zuerWj_E
 
2021-10-23 7:36:52 AM  
4 votes:
Stand your ground was always a license for murder
 
2021-10-23 7:49:28 AM  
4 votes:
They made the black kid who shot up the school a couple of weeks ago spend the night in jail before they released him on bail. Two tier system of justice.
 
2021-10-23 8:03:37 AM  
4 votes:
Looks like the DA is ducking for cover.
 
2021-10-23 10:22:25 AM  
4 votes:

Boo_Guy: "He pointed a gun at me and I shot," Turner said,

Usually that excuse only works for cops but it is Texas.


Yeah, but if there's no gun, that definitely only works for the cops.
 
2021-10-23 10:43:50 AM  
4 votes:

Circusdog320: Reverse the situation... could you imagine the outrage from the right


You don't have to imagine. Remember that 'reset the clocks there's been a mass shooting' in a Dallas area school recently where an 18 year old guy shot 4 people after a fight and then fled? Because he, a Black guy, was also promptly released on bail. A 'mass school shooter' was given an ankle monitor, sent home and told "don't you go getting in any more trouble now" and the whole 'school shooter' narrative was abandoned once authorities determined it was not a white guy with dark makeup and a notebook full of creepy drawings.

Nobody really gave a shiat, there was no rioting or much of anything in response. The only reaction from the right I saw really was a few commentators pointing out how quickly the media pounced when they thought they had a juicy story then ran away when they realized it cut against their preferred narrative.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/timberview-shooting-suspect-transferred-to-tarrant-co-jail/2760729/
 
2021-10-23 10:47:07 AM  
4 votes:

GrinzGrimly: Circusdog320: Reverse the situation... could you imagine the outrage from the right

You don't have to imagine. Remember that 'reset the clocks there's been a mass shooting' in a Dallas area school recently where an 18 year old guy shot 4 people after a fight and then fled? Because he, a Black guy, was also promptly released on bail. A 'mass school shooter' was given an ankle monitor, sent home and told "don't you go getting in any more trouble now" and the whole 'school shooter' narrative was abandoned once authorities determined it was not a white guy with dark makeup and a notebook full of creepy drawings.

Nobody really gave a shiat, there was no rioting or much of anything in response. The only reaction from the right I saw really was a few commentators pointing out how quickly the media pounced when they thought they had a juicy story then ran away when they realized it cut against their preferred narrative.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/timberview-shooting-suspect-transferred-to-tarrant-co-jail/2760729/


I know. it's just outrageous what those blacks get away with in this country!
When is the White man ever going to get an even break?
 
2021-10-23 1:47:31 AM  
3 votes:
If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.
 
2021-10-23 7:43:08 AM  
3 votes:

whosits_112: feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.

For once, you've said something not-stupid.


Stopped clock, or exception make the rule rules?
 
2021-10-23 9:01:05 AM  
3 votes:

resident dystopian: Ah yes, middle aged with the white goatee. It's like asshole regalia.
/thanks, farkers.
//i really wanted to grow out my beard this year.


Like this guy?
Fark user imageView Full Size

/from a thread yesterday
 
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2021-10-23 9:16:10 AM  
3 votes:

AlwaysRightBoy: whosits_112: feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.

For once, you've said something not-stupid.

Are you new here? He says smarter things than 99% of the posers here.


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-10-23 9:16:18 AM  
3 votes:

Private_Citizen: Gyrfalcon: Reek!: My internet law degree is out of date, but isn't it a requirement to get a grand jury indictment to prosecute a murder case?

No.

Only a handful of murder cases ever go to the grand jury. All that has to happen is for the DA to refer the case for trial. It usually only happens if the DA wants to be sure the case is solid, like if the defendant is high-profile or if the case turns on a novel or unusual interpretation of evidence.

Or the DA is looking to let the criminal go free. He can selectively present evidence and ignore others, and bias the jury any way he wants. It's widely known than a DA could get a Grand Jury to indict a ham sandwich. The flip side is a DA can also convince a Grave Jury to let a stone cold killer walk away Scott Free.

This DA is about to let the killer walk free, and his excuse is going to be that the GJ refused to indict.


Say it with me: Texas law requires a grand jury indictment for felony charges.

Should we use smaller words?
 
2021-10-23 9:40:59 AM  
3 votes:

Private_Citizen: webct_god: Private_Citizen: Gyrfalcon: Reek!: My internet law degree is out of date, but isn't it a requirement to get a grand jury indictment to prosecute a murder case?

No.

Only a handful of murder cases ever go to the grand jury. All that has to happen is for the DA to refer the case for trial. It usually only happens if the DA wants to be sure the case is solid, like if the defendant is high-profile or if the case turns on a novel or unusual interpretation of evidence.

Or the DA is looking to let the criminal go free. He can selectively present evidence and ignore others, and bias the jury any way he wants. It's widely known than a DA could get a Grand Jury to indict a ham sandwich. The flip side is a DA can also convince a Grave Jury to let a stone cold killer walk away Scott Free.

This DA is about to let the killer walk free, and his excuse is going to be that the GJ refused to indict.

Say it with me: Texas law requires a grand jury indictment for felony charges.

Should we use smaller words?

Say it with me: A prosector can throw a case or prosecute a bad case by misleading the Grand Jury.

That's the issue - he gets to decide which cases go to trial, period.


Those goalposts are quick little bastards.

Anyway, y'all were biatching about having to go to the grand jury. I just pointed out that it's the law, that's why. Now you're talking about a hypothetical corrupt prosecutor.

If that's the case, does the requirement of a grand jury indictment even matter? No.

Soooo....
 
2021-10-23 9:49:56 AM  
3 votes:

AlwaysRightBoy: whosits_112: feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.

For once, you've said something not-stupid.

Are you new here? He says smarter things than 99% of the posers here.


Well, his Fark handle certainly checks out better than yours.
 
2021-10-23 10:03:02 AM  
3 votes:

BizarreMan: whosits_112: feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.

For once, you've said something not-stupid.

Stopped clock, or exception make the rule rules?


I'll take "Signed in with the wrong alt" for $200, Alex.
 
2021-10-23 10:21:03 AM  
3 votes:

Boo_Guy: resident dystopian: Ah yes, middle aged with the white goatee. It's like asshole regalia.
/thanks, farkers.
//i really wanted to grow out my beard this year.

Like this guy?
[Fark user image 398x278]
/from a thread yesterday


That guy has gone to great lengths to not be white and you shouldn't accuse him of it.

/Don't Call Me White
 
2021-10-23 10:31:07 AM  
3 votes:

webct_god: Texas law requires a grand jury indictment for felony charges


The DAs hands were tied.  You know how it is.
 
2021-10-23 11:13:47 AM  
3 votes:
Guys, price of freedom is a few broken eggs. GUYS.
 
2021-10-23 7:41:29 AM  
2 votes:

feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.


For once, you've said something not-stupid.
 
2021-10-23 7:54:14 AM  
2 votes:

Ker_Thwap: Circusdog320: Reverse the situation... could you imagine the outrage from the right

Imagine Adil Dghoughi was named Gabby Pettito and was a cute blonde girl.


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-10-23 8:01:43 AM  
2 votes:

Reek!: My internet law degree is out of date, but isn't it a requirement to get a grand jury indictment to prosecute a murder case?


No.

Only a handful of murder cases ever go to the grand jury. All that has to happen is for the DA to refer the case for trial. It usually only happens if the DA wants to be sure the case is solid, like if the defendant is high-profile or if the case turns on a novel or unusual interpretation of evidence.
 
2021-10-23 8:55:27 AM  
2 votes:
If I owned Texas and I owned Hell, I'd rent out Texas and live in Hell.
 
2021-10-23 1:29:43 PM  
2 votes:

mrshowrules: feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.

If someone broke into my house and I had a gun (I don't but if I did) and I was alone (my kids were away) my first instinct would be to get away if I could.  Go to a neighbour's.  Call the cops or even hide/wait somewhere.

I would prefer not to shoot someone even if they are stealing my property.  I have insurance for that and I don't want to shoot someone else's kid/husband/brother who is mentally ill or in such dire straights for other reasons.


You need to stay out of Texas with that kinda bullshiat, y'huh.

/I agree
/I'd let them have the kids though.
 
2021-10-23 2:05:13 PM  
2 votes:

Nirbo: mrshowrules: feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.

If someone broke into my house and I had a gun (I don't but if I did) and I was alone (my kids were away) my first instinct would be to get away if I could.  Go to a neighbour's.  Call the cops or even hide/wait somewhere.

I would prefer not to shoot someone even if they are stealing my property.  I have insurance for that and I don't want to shoot someone else's kid/husband/brother who is mentally ill or in such dire straights for other reasons.

You need to stay out of Texas with that kinda bullshiat, y'huh.

/I agree
/I'd let them have the kids though.


Well, at least the ugly one.
 
2021-10-23 2:36:31 AM  
1 vote:

Xai: Pretty certain if I saw a gunman chasing me down the street I'd try to flee too, they act like that is somehow suspicious.


You watch, too. If justice prevails and the murderer is charged and convicted with murder, it'll be a case of "why should we change our laws?m Justice was served!"
 
2021-10-23 7:40:27 AM  
1 vote:
Reverse the situation... could you imagine the outrage from the right
 
2021-10-23 7:41:16 AM  
1 vote:

Brosephus: I believe I would have to basically shoot dead any old white men to avoid getting shot myself. This world is farking nuts.


Stay put.
 
2021-10-23 7:41:58 AM  
1 vote:
"He pointed a gun at me and I shot," Turner said,

Usually that excuse only works for cops but it is Texas.
 
2021-10-23 7:47:25 AM  
1 vote:
I said STOP being evil, not keep being evil.
 
2021-10-23 7:48:27 AM  
1 vote:

Tom-Servo: Wait, someone parks their car on someone else's driveway at 4:00am with their lights off. In Texas. And they thought they wouldn't get shot?


I dunno, maybe he was an Uber driver and pulled into the wrong driveway to wait on a customer.
 
2021-10-23 7:59:24 AM  
1 vote:
another good god-fearing christian, no doubt
 
2021-10-23 8:05:35 AM  
1 vote:

chucknasty: there is nothing good about Texas. it is a state full of douche bags. no need to leave the country, the country should give it back to Mexico.


Austin's nice, sometimes.
 
2021-10-23 8:11:39 AM  
1 vote:

chucknasty: there is nothing good about Texas. it is a state full of douche bags. no need to leave the country, the country should give it back to Mexico.


Texas is nice.

Texans on the other hand...
 
2021-10-23 8:11:46 AM  
1 vote:
Turner was charged with murder but it will be up to a grand jury to decide whether to indict him.

Huh?
 
2021-10-23 8:12:46 AM  
1 vote:

whosits_112: Tyrone Slothrop: chucknasty: there is nothing good about Texas. it is a state full of douche bags. no need to leave the country, the country should give it back to Mexico.

Austin's nice, sometimes.

It is, but it is growing so fast, that it's becoming a mess.


I understand that the Republicans have a "dividing freeway" plan to basically destroy the city, like they did Detroit.
 
2021-10-23 8:14:53 AM  
1 vote:

Resident Muslim: Circusdog320: Reverse the situation... could you imagine the outrage from the right

I can't reach that stage of imagination...I can't imagine a brown/black person bonding out like that and in less than a couple of hours from arrest. Probably walked in and was directly processed in and out without even seeing a jail cell.


/in the spirit of fairness, the article doesn't attempt to answer why the deceased was there in the first place.
//assuming he was in the driveway in the first place
///no security cameras in the area?


There are any of a thousand reasons I can think of that are both farious and nefarious.

Maybe next time, call the cops and let them sort it out. Or just wait and see if the guy leaves, which is what I would do. Why was the shooter awake at 4 am locked and loaded protecting his driveway? What kind of maniac or meth dealer is up prowling around at 4 am?
 
2021-10-23 8:31:30 AM  
1 vote:

Gyrfalcon: Reek!: My internet law degree is out of date, but isn't it a requirement to get a grand jury indictment to prosecute a murder case?

No.

Only a handful of murder cases ever go to the grand jury. All that has to happen is for the DA to refer the case for trial. It usually only happens if the DA wants to be sure the case is solid, like if the defendant is high-profile or if the case turns on a novel or unusual interpretation of evidence.


I'm pretty sure that depends on state.
 
2021-10-23 8:51:22 AM  
1 vote:
Ah yes, middle aged with the white goatee. It's like asshole regalia.
/thanks, farkers.
//i really wanted to grow out my beard this year.
 
2021-10-23 8:53:58 AM  
1 vote:

Meatsim1: Stand your ground was always a license for murder


It was supposed to be that you can protect yourself without having to flee as far as you can.  For instance, in some states if an armed intruder broke into your house and yelled "I'm going to kill everyone in here" you have to retreat as far as you can in the house until you can't go anywhere else before you could shoot that person.
Stand your ground means if there are a threat you can kill them without having to run from your own home.  Or that's what it's supposed to mean. Apparently it's evolved into just straight up murder brown people who look at you too long because they might be thinking about raping your white daughter, and you can't be too careful now, can you?

Pulling into a driveway to look at Google maps because you got lost shouldn't be a death sentence. That guy needs to never see the outside of jail until he is 90 and then can no longer cope with how the world has changed so he hangs himself from the rafters of a halfway house.
 
2021-10-23 9:11:13 AM  
1 vote:

Boo_Guy: resident dystopian: Ah yes, middle aged with the white goatee. It's like asshole regalia.
/thanks, farkers.
//i really wanted to grow out my beard this year.

Like this guy?
[Fark user image 398x278]
/from a thread yesterday


Nah, a bit more Jason Statham (after styling it) and less
SatanicNaziRapist.
/yeah, that dude's daddy never hugged him.
 
2021-10-23 9:14:06 AM  
1 vote:

eswan: whosits_112: Ok, so, a casual Google search didn't really provide me with a reason why a grand jury is only used for some cases, but not for others.

Can any Farker tell me why they are only used sometimes?

Marcus Aurelius: The best part is the DA is convening a Grand Jury on whom he can blame his failure to prosecute.


Calm down. Texas law requires a grand jury for a felony indictment. No super secret conspiracy.

Oh, and he was charged with murder and then bonded out. Meh. Sounds like the system worked as it was supposed to. At least so far.

What the hell do farkers expect? A summary execution on the streets, without a trial, days after?
 
2021-10-23 9:21:58 AM  
1 vote:
Fark user imageView Full Size


Any state south of the 49th Parallel is a breading ground of tongue chomping Derp.
Any state considered "Southern US" or "Fly Over" or " Heartland" or "Bible Belt" should just be avoided at all costs.
It is fun to make jokes at the once greatest country on earth though
Lol
 
2021-10-23 9:36:29 AM  
1 vote:
"It's crazy that they are going to let this guy out on bail and he chased someone down and murdered them in the street. How in the hell is he out on bail? He is a threat to the entire community," Todd said.

Valid point.  What's the contention here, that he shouldn't have been released or that black people in his situation should also be released but aren't.
 
2021-10-23 9:45:46 AM  
1 vote:

Hey Nurse!: I've had a guy go nuts on me for parking in front of his house to make a call. I put Parkway in my GPS instead of Road and ended up in the wrong spot. I didn't realize it so I pulled over to call the company to see what I did wrong. I wasn't sitting there 15 seconds and the dude just freaked out. People are crazy.


Which is why I always use a commercial parking lot to do that.
 
2021-10-23 9:58:10 AM  
1 vote:

Private_Citizen: webct_god: Private_Citizen: webct_god: Private_Citizen: Gyrfalcon: Reek!: My internet law degree is out of date, but isn't it a requirement to get a grand jury indictment to prosecute a murder case?

No.

Only a handful of murder cases ever go to the grand jury. All that has to happen is for the DA to refer the case for trial. It usually only happens if the DA wants to be sure the case is solid, like if the defendant is high-profile or if the case turns on a novel or unusual interpretation of evidence.

Or the DA is looking to let the criminal go free. He can selectively present evidence and ignore others, and bias the jury any way he wants. It's widely known than a DA could get a Grand Jury to indict a ham sandwich. The flip side is a DA can also convince a Grave Jury to let a stone cold killer walk away Scott Free.

This DA is about to let the killer walk free, and his excuse is going to be that the GJ refused to indict.

Say it with me: Texas law requires a grand jury indictment for felony charges.

Should we use smaller words?

Say it with me: A prosector can throw a case or prosecute a bad case by misleading the Grand Jury.

That's the issue - he gets to decide which cases go to trial, period.

Those goalposts are quick little bastards.

Anyway, y'all were biatching about having to go to the grand jury. I just pointed out that it's the law, that's why. Now you're talking about a hypothetical corrupt prosecutor.

If that's the case, does the requirement of a grand jury indictment even matter? No.

Soooo....

Is your reading comprehension up to speed? At no point do I mention requirements to go before a grand jury. The Texas grand jury system is badly broken, and is subject to abuse. That's what I was pointing out - the DA is about to make this case go away.

If you want to argue about the requirements to go before a grand jury, why don't you interject yourself into a conversation about that - just find a thread that actually disagrees with you, otherwise that st ...


Perhaps you meant to attack Gyrfalcon. Either way, if you disagree with someone, you can do it in a less douchy way - also helps if you address your douchiness to the correct person.
 
2021-10-23 10:10:03 AM  
1 vote:

Private_Citizen: webct_god: Private_Citizen: webct_god: Private_Citizen: Gyrfalcon: Reek!: My internet law degree is out of date, but isn't it a requirement to get a grand jury indictment to prosecute a murder case?

No.

Only a handful of murder cases ever go to the grand jury. All that has to happen is for the DA to refer the case for trial. It usually only happens if the DA wants to be sure the case is solid, like if the defendant is high-profile or if the case turns on a novel or unusual interpretation of evidence.

Or the DA is looking to let the criminal go free. He can selectively present evidence and ignore others, and bias the jury any way he wants. It's widely known than a DA could get a Grand Jury to indict a ham sandwich. The flip side is a DA can also convince a Grave Jury to let a stone cold killer walk away Scott Free.

This DA is about to let the killer walk free, and his excuse is going to be that the GJ refused to indict.

Say it with me: Texas law requires a grand jury indictment for felony charges.

Should we use smaller words?

Say it with me: A prosector can throw a case or prosecute a bad case by misleading the Grand Jury.

That's the issue - he gets to decide which cases go to trial, period.

Those goalposts are quick little bastards.

Anyway, y'all were biatching about having to go to the grand jury. I just pointed out that it's the law, that's why. Now you're talking about a hypothetical corrupt prosecutor.

If that's the case, does the requirement of a grand jury indictment even matter? No.

Soooo....

Is your reading comprehension up to speed? At no point do I mention requirements to go before a grand jury. The Texas grand jury system is badly broken, and is subject to abuse. That's what I was pointing out - the DA is about to make this case go away.

If you want to argue about the requirements to go before a grand jury, why don't you interject yourself into a conversation about that - just find a thread that actually disagrees with you, otherwise that straw man gets a bit obvious.


I selectively read these types of threads; If I read the entire thing, I'd lose some brain cells.

people are posting, you included, without any proof that the reason this is going before a GJ is so the prosecutor can weasel their way out of prosecuting. And, some are going so far as to say this is the reason the prosecutor is taking it before a GJ, as if they have a choice. See:

"isn't it a requirement to get a grand jury indictment to prosecute a murder case?

No.
"

This is false. Period. Texas law requires a GJ indictment. Prosecutor has no say in the matter of whether it needs to go to a GJ or not.

"Indictments are presented by prosecutors to a 12-person grand jury that then votes whether there is probable cause of the defendant's guilt.  Nine votes are required to take the case to trial. If the prosecution does not meet that requirement, no charge is filed, but the prosecution can present its case again to a grand jury."

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2016/06/03/arrest-arraignment-indictment-trial-how-does-texas-justice-system-work/

That is all. Have a nice day.
 
2021-10-23 11:07:58 AM  
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Private_Citizen: Marcus Aurelius: webct_god: Texas law requires a grand jury indictment for felony charges

The DAs hands were tied.  You know how it is.

Yup. Damn shame the killer walked free...


If farkers spend half the effort going after real events that have actually happened as they spend complaining about hypotheticals on a fark thread, we might see some real reform.
 
2021-10-23 11:42:40 AM  
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dark brew: webct_god: Marcus Aurelius: webct_god: Texas law requires a grand jury indictment for felony charges

The DAs hands were tied.  You know how it is.

I was simply pointing out the law requires it, despite the lies being posted all over this thread. But, I'll bite...

And what do you propose?

Automatically go to trial? Great, now EVERYONE charged with a felony, even those charged by corrupt cops, has to go to trial.

Prosecutorial discretion? Well, if you think a prosecutor would throw a grand jury, not sure they would have a change of heart when it's their choice. And now we get to deal with malicious prosecutions, but with felonies. Yea!

I agree that in some instances prosecutors have done some questionable things to either benefit or hinder the accused. But simply requiring a GJ indictment by law has nothing to do with it.

Of course, all of this is irrelevant regarding this particular case, seeing as this hasn't reached a GJ yet. Unless you used your time machine to see that the prosecutor was, in fact, corrupt.

You used your time machine, didn't you? Damn it, you know that cause problems with spacetime.

You do realize grand juries aren't required in felony cases in about half of the states, right?  So this doesn't have to be a hypothetical about prosecutorial discretion.

I think some people here are rightly skeptical when the DA says it's up to the grand jury to indict.  There's a dead guy and a guy who admitted shooting him.  That's a slam dunk indictment if you want it.


And you realize this guy was accused of murder in Texas only, not in 'about half of the states', right?
People being skeptical about this case because it's going before a GJ as required by law is illogical.

And people accusing the prosecutor of corruption by letting this guy off behind a close door GJ proceeding that hasn't happened yet is petty and, well the norm on fark.
 
2021-10-23 5:13:19 PM  
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rga184: dsmith42: Boo_Guy: "He pointed a gun at me and I shot," Turner said,

Usually that excuse only works for cops but it is Texas.

I remember a case years ago. Neighbor sees house allegedly getting robbed. Grabs his rifle and confronts suspected burglars. They attempt to flee. Both shot and killed by neighbor. No charges were filed. But in that case I think they were actually robbing the house.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_shooting_controversy

Holy crap.  He says "I'm gonna kill 'em" on the phone before killing them.  How does that not show intent?  He shot them in the back, he said he was going to kill them, and he still got off.


You can stop people committing felonies.

Maybe try not committing felonies in texas?
 
2021-10-24 2:10:58 PM  
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hairywoogit: NevynFox: Resident Muslim: BizarreMan: whosits_112: feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.

For once, you've said something not-stupid.

Stopped clock, or exception make the rule rules?

What do you two have against Fecking?

You know he rolls troll, right?

I think he's an honest believer.  Which is REALLY REALLY sad, as apparently outside of the right-wing derposphere, hes apparently pretty damn decent.


It isn't sad at all, I have a set of beliefs that have guided me well through my life thus far. Chief among them is don't kill people, there is also let people live their lives the way they want to, help people when you can, and more government isn't a solution to any problem.

Some people disagree with that, that is certainly their right. I also think those people are fecking morons, hence the name. You've got a right to have different opinions if you wish, but don't expect me to share them.

Don't lump me in with any political party or other movement, it is almost certain I don't completely agree with them. I judge people based on their character and I've not found any politician yet that rises to the level of competent, trustworthy and a person of admirable character.
 
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