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(Yahoo)   He confronted and killed an unarmed man, 11 days later was arrested for it, and then was out of jail in just two hours. Welcome to being white in Texas   (yahoo.com) divider line
    More: Asinine, Capital punishment, Sheriff, Murder, Police, Terry Turner, 31-year-old Adil Dghoughi, Turner's arrest, Oklahoma prison inmate Richard Glossip  
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2021-10-23 1:47:31 AM  
If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.
 
2021-10-23 1:55:06 AM  
Shut up, commie.  😛

/I hate my state
 
2021-10-23 1:58:51 AM  
Despite Turner's claims, the probable cause affidavit states no guns were found inside of Dghoughi's car

Texas???

Burn. In. Hell.
 
2021-10-23 2:02:37 AM  

puffy999: Despite Turner's claims, the probable cause affidavit states no guns were found inside of Dghoughi's car

Texas???

Burn. In. Hell.


Err, I meant that as a statement TOWARD Texas.
 
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2021-10-23 2:12:22 AM  
Pretty certain if I saw a gunman chasing me down the street I'd try to flee too, they act like that is somehow suspicious.
 
2021-10-23 2:36:31 AM  

Xai: Pretty certain if I saw a gunman chasing me down the street I'd try to flee too, they act like that is somehow suspicious.


You watch, too. If justice prevails and the murderer is charged and convicted with murder, it'll be a case of "why should we change our laws?m Justice was served!"
 
2021-10-23 6:12:15 AM  
The best part is the DA is convening a Grand Jury on whom he can blame his failure to prosecute.
 
2021-10-23 6:34:36 AM  
You would think that any notion of self-defense is destroyed when you chase someone down to kill them. However, this occurred in the state of Texas, and an older white man shot and killed a brown person.

I don't ever intend on setting foot within the state borders of Texas. I believe I would have to basically shoot dead any old white men to avoid getting shot myself. This world is farking nuts.
 
2021-10-23 7:34:31 AM  

puffy999: puffy999: Despite Turner's claims, the probable cause affidavit states no guns were found inside of Dghoughi's car

Texas???

Burn. In. Hell.

Err, I meant that as a statement TOWARD Texas.


I figured the alternative was that you are from Texas, and you were condemning the victim for being unarmed.
 
2021-10-23 7:36:52 AM  
Stand your ground was always a license for murder
 
2021-10-23 7:40:17 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The best part is the DA is convening a Grand Jury on whom he can blame his failure to prosecute.


Nah. Grand Jury is the best place to sort out what level of Homicide is going to be appropriate.
 
2021-10-23 7:40:27 AM  
Reverse the situation... could you imagine the outrage from the right
 
2021-10-23 7:41:16 AM  

Brosephus: I believe I would have to basically shoot dead any old white men to avoid getting shot myself. This world is farking nuts.


Stay put.
 
2021-10-23 7:41:29 AM  

feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.


For once, you've said something not-stupid.
 
2021-10-23 7:41:58 AM  
"He pointed a gun at me and I shot," Turner said,

Usually that excuse only works for cops but it is Texas.
 
2021-10-23 7:42:47 AM  

Brosephus: You would think that any notion of self-defense is destroyed when you chase someone down to kill them. However, this occurred in the state of Texas, and an older white man shot and killed a brown person.

I don't ever intend on setting foot within the state borders of Texas. I believe I would have to basically shoot dead any old white men to avoid getting shot myself. This world is farking nuts.


Since I've lived here, there have been several incidents of older white men chasing after people and shooting them. And getting away with it.
 
2021-10-23 7:43:08 AM  

whosits_112: feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.

For once, you've said something not-stupid.


Stopped clock, or exception make the rule rules?
 
2021-10-23 7:45:40 AM  
Wait, someone parks their car on someone else's driveway at 4:00am with their lights off. In Texas. And they thought they wouldn't get shot?
 
2021-10-23 7:47:25 AM  
I said STOP being evil, not keep being evil.
 
2021-10-23 7:48:27 AM  

Tom-Servo: Wait, someone parks their car on someone else's driveway at 4:00am with their lights off. In Texas. And they thought they wouldn't get shot?


I dunno, maybe he was an Uber driver and pulled into the wrong driveway to wait on a customer.
 
2021-10-23 7:49:28 AM  
They made the black kid who shot up the school a couple of weeks ago spend the night in jail before they released him on bail. Two tier system of justice.
 
2021-10-23 7:50:05 AM  

Boo_Guy: "He pointed a gun at me and I shot," Turner said,

Usually that excuse only works for cops but it is Texas.


I remember a case years ago. Neighbor sees house allegedly getting robbed. Grabs his rifle and confronts suspected burglars. They attempt to flee. Both shot and killed by neighbor. No charges were filed. But in that case I think they were actually robbing the house.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_H​o​rn_shooting_controversy
 
2021-10-23 7:51:02 AM  
Look at that smug smirk in that mugshot.

It's the smirk of a man who knows he'll get away with it.
 
2021-10-23 7:51:20 AM  

Circusdog320: Reverse the situation... could you imagine the outrage from the right


I can't reach that stage of imagination...I can't imagine a brown/black person bonding out like that and in less than a couple of hours from arrest. Probably walked in and was directly processed in and out without even seeing a jail cell.


/in the spirit of fairness, the article doesn't attempt to answer why the deceased was there in the first place.
//assuming he was in the driveway in the first place
///no security cameras in the area?
 
2021-10-23 7:52:13 AM  

BizarreMan: whosits_112: feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.

For once, you've said something not-stupid.

Stopped clock, or exception make the rule rules?


What do you two have against Fecking?
 
2021-10-23 7:52:17 AM  

Circusdog320: Reverse the situation... could you imagine the outrage from the right


Imagine Adil Dghoughi was named Gabby Pettito and was a cute blonde girl.
 
2021-10-23 7:53:40 AM  

Resident Muslim: BizarreMan: whosits_112: feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.

For once, you've said something not-stupid.

Stopped clock, or exception make the rule rules?

What do you two have against Fecking?


He's (almost) always on the wrong side of every argument.
 
2021-10-23 7:54:14 AM  

Ker_Thwap: Circusdog320: Reverse the situation... could you imagine the outrage from the right

Imagine Adil Dghoughi was named Gabby Pettito and was a cute blonde girl.


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2021-10-23 7:56:55 AM  
My internet law degree is out of date, but isn't it a requirement to get a grand jury indictment to prosecute a murder case?
 
2021-10-23 7:56:58 AM  
there is nothing good about Texas. it is a state full of douche bags. no need to leave the country, the country should give it back to Mexico.
 
2021-10-23 7:59:24 AM  
another good god-fearing christian, no doubt
 
2021-10-23 8:01:43 AM  

Reek!: My internet law degree is out of date, but isn't it a requirement to get a grand jury indictment to prosecute a murder case?


No.

Only a handful of murder cases ever go to the grand jury. All that has to happen is for the DA to refer the case for trial. It usually only happens if the DA wants to be sure the case is solid, like if the defendant is high-profile or if the case turns on a novel or unusual interpretation of evidence.
 
2021-10-23 8:02:53 AM  

Resident Muslim: BizarreMan: whosits_112: feckingmorons: If you see a suspicious car in your driveway and you go out to talk to the driver and they drive away why would you chase them down, much less shoot them. Isn't the point just to make them go away?

We shouldn't kill people.

For once, you've said something not-stupid.

Stopped clock, or exception make the rule rules?

What do you two have against Fecking?


You know he rolls troll, right?
 
2021-10-23 8:03:37 AM  
Looks like the DA is ducking for cover.
 
2021-10-23 8:05:03 AM  
FTFA - Todd said that while she feels hopeful about Turner's arrest, she was also wary that the officials might be charging Turner because of the "pressure" that has been put on them.

Really??

/CYA will be in full effect, you can bet on that
//from the killer on up to the county prosecutor. there will be theater but that will be it
///If the driver had been white, I am thinking none of this would have happened. But, this IS Texas, so who can say?
 
2021-10-23 8:05:35 AM  

chucknasty: there is nothing good about Texas. it is a state full of douche bags. no need to leave the country, the country should give it back to Mexico.


Austin's nice, sometimes.
 
2021-10-23 8:10:57 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: chucknasty: there is nothing good about Texas. it is a state full of douche bags. no need to leave the country, the country should give it back to Mexico.

Austin's nice, sometimes.


It is, but it is growing so fast, that it's becoming a mess.
 
2021-10-23 8:11:39 AM  

chucknasty: there is nothing good about Texas. it is a state full of douche bags. no need to leave the country, the country should give it back to Mexico.


Texas is nice.

Texans on the other hand...
 
2021-10-23 8:11:46 AM  
Turner was charged with murder but it will be up to a grand jury to decide whether to indict him.

Huh?
 
2021-10-23 8:12:44 AM  
Injuries to both his head *and* his left hand?

The poor farking dude was instinctively trying the block the impending violence. What the hell, Texas?
 
2021-10-23 8:12:46 AM  

whosits_112: Tyrone Slothrop: chucknasty: there is nothing good about Texas. it is a state full of douche bags. no need to leave the country, the country should give it back to Mexico.

Austin's nice, sometimes.

It is, but it is growing so fast, that it's becoming a mess.


I understand that the Republicans have a "dividing freeway" plan to basically destroy the city, like they did Detroit.
 
2021-10-23 8:13:09 AM  
Ok, so, a casual Google search didn't really provide me with a reason why a grand jury is only used for some cases, but not for others.

Can any Farker tell me why they are only used sometimes?
 
2021-10-23 8:13:46 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Turner was charged with murder but it will be up to a grand jury to decide whether to indict him.

Huh?


Like I said - ducking for cover.
 
2021-10-23 8:14:14 AM  

feckingmorons: Isn't the point just to make them go away?


I mean, he did a pretty good job of making the guy go away.
 
2021-10-23 8:14:53 AM  

Resident Muslim: Circusdog320: Reverse the situation... could you imagine the outrage from the right

I can't reach that stage of imagination...I can't imagine a brown/black person bonding out like that and in less than a couple of hours from arrest. Probably walked in and was directly processed in and out without even seeing a jail cell.


/in the spirit of fairness, the article doesn't attempt to answer why the deceased was there in the first place.
//assuming he was in the driveway in the first place
///no security cameras in the area?


There are any of a thousand reasons I can think of that are both farious and nefarious.

Maybe next time, call the cops and let them sort it out. Or just wait and see if the guy leaves, which is what I would do. Why was the shooter awake at 4 am locked and loaded protecting his driveway? What kind of maniac or meth dealer is up prowling around at 4 am?
 
2021-10-23 8:17:26 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Resident Muslim: Circusdog320: Reverse the situation... could you imagine the outrage from the right

I can't reach that stage of imagination...I can't imagine a brown/black person bonding out like that and in less than a couple of hours from arrest. Probably walked in and was directly processed in and out without even seeing a jail cell.


/in the spirit of fairness, the article doesn't attempt to answer why the deceased was there in the first place.
//assuming he was in the driveway in the first place
///no security cameras in the area?

There are any of a thousand reasons I can think of that are both farious and nefarious.

Maybe next time, call the cops and let them sort it out. Or just wait and see if the guy leaves, which is what I would do. Why was the shooter awake at 4 am locked and loaded protecting his driveway? What kind of maniac or meth dealer is up prowling around at 4 am?


But if you call the cops and let them sort it out, they will get the kill not you.
 
2021-10-23 8:17:36 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Resident Muslim: Circusdog320: Reverse the situation... could you imagine the outrage from the right

I can't reach that stage of imagination...I can't imagine a brown/black person bonding out like that and in less than a couple of hours from arrest. Probably walked in and was directly processed in and out without even seeing a jail cell.


/in the spirit of fairness, the article doesn't attempt to answer why the deceased was there in the first place.
//assuming he was in the driveway in the first place
///no security cameras in the area?

There are any of a thousand reasons I can think of that are both farious and nefarious.

Maybe next time, call the cops and let them sort it out. Or just wait and see if the guy leaves, which is what I would do. Why was the shooter awake at 4 am locked and loaded protecting his driveway? What kind of maniac or meth dealer is up prowling around at 4 am?


Well, the article did say that the dude woke up to use the toilet. Glanced out the window and saw the stranger's car in his driveway. To be fair, I would have freaked too. Yet I would have called the cops, not gone out in my skivvies and waving a gun around.
 
2021-10-23 8:19:19 AM  

Brosephus: You would think that any notion of self-defense is destroyed when you chase someone down to kill them. However, this occurred in the state of Texas, and an older white man shot and killed a brown person.

I don't ever intend on setting foot within the state borders of Texas. I believe I would have to basically shoot dead any old white men to avoid getting shot myself. This world is farking nuts.


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2021-10-23 8:19:19 AM  

whosits_112: Ok, so, a casual Google search didn't really provide me with a reason why a grand jury is only used for some cases, but not for others.

Can any Farker tell me why they are only used sometimes?


Marcus Aurelius: The best part is the DA is convening a Grand Jury on whom he can blame his failure to prosecute.

 
2021-10-23 8:21:01 AM  

dsmith42: Boo_Guy: "He pointed a gun at me and I shot," Turner said,

Usually that excuse only works for cops but it is Texas.

I remember a case years ago. Neighbor sees house allegedly getting robbed. Grabs his rifle and confronts suspected burglars. They attempt to flee. Both shot and killed by neighbor. No charges were filed. But in that case I think they were actually robbing the house.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Ho​rn_shooting_controversy


Holy crap.  He says "I'm gonna kill 'em" on the phone before killing them.  How does that not show intent?  He shot them in the back, he said he was going to kill them, and he still got off.
 
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