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2021-10-23 3:27:10 AM  
"I've always said Australia is the Texas of the Pacific."~Ted "Horsefarker" Cruz

He said this as a compliment but I can't think of a bigger insult.
 
2021-10-23 4:53:12 AM  
The only reason they want this is because the Australian method seems to work, with a few hiccups. Just over a thousand auzzies have died from covid, while the US is steadily marching on to a million + (In official numbers, you know the kind where the death toll is suppressed in places like florida and similar). It torpedos all their arguments for not doing any of the things smart scientists and libs keep telling them to do and they can't have that.
 
2021-10-23 4:54:41 AM  
Right-wing lunacy is America's biggest and least-wanted export.
 
2021-10-23 5:00:35 AM  
I'd rather the Australians came to save America from our oppressors.

But they need to leave the spiders and drop bears there. There's only so much liberating I can take.
 
2021-10-23 5:02:09 AM  
So first Candice Owen, and now these two yahoos.
 
2021-10-23 5:02:54 AM  
Like we give a fark what these drongoes think.
 
2021-10-23 5:08:54 AM  

Jemraine: Right-wing lunacy is America's biggest and least-wanted export.


Eh? A lot of the blame for the modern right wing lunacy in the UK and America falls on Rupert Murdoch and his media empire, he's an Aussie.
 
2021-10-23 5:11:27 AM  
Their view of Australia is based off of the Mad Max film franchise?
 
2021-10-23 5:12:51 AM  
Hey, we withdrew from Afghanistan.  They need to have somewhere to bring military-grade freedom.
 
2021-10-23 5:15:01 AM  

Jemraine: Right-wing lunacy is America's biggest and least-wanted export.


To be fair, Rupert Murdoch came from Australia and ruined all the English speaking world's news organizations.
 
2021-10-23 5:17:27 AM  

robodog: Jemraine: Right-wing lunacy is America's biggest and least-wanted export.

Eh? A lot of the blame for the modern right wing lunacy in the UK and America falls on Rupert Murdoch and his media empire, he's an Aussie.


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2021-10-23 5:23:21 AM  

Alphax: So first Candice Owen, and now these two yahoos.


Yahoos?  Seriously!
 
2021-10-23 5:27:18 AM  
Posted this in another thread:

Help help, we're being oppressed.

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This is not the first time that Right-wing US nuts have targeted Australia for a 'freedom campaign'. They did it over our gun control laws.

They are scared that Australia can become an example to show what can happen if a functioning Government enacts sensible policies that help people and protects them from harm. So they have to say that we're somehow missing out on something. They can't let Australia be an example of how things work, because then it shows that their beliefs and policies are wrong

I'm missing out on high gun death rates in my neighbourhood, I'm missing out on my hospital system being swamped, I'm missing out on having my friends ask me for donations to GoFundMe campaigns because their family member died and they can't afford the healthcare and funeral costs.

I've spent the day at the beach today, I was at the pub last night with my friends, I'm booking a summer holiday, all knowing that I'll be safe.
 
2021-10-23 5:36:23 AM  
They've had decades to apologize for hitler and yet they do nothing.
 
2021-10-23 5:36:50 AM  
Seems like an appropriate thread for someone with my username.

Some Australian history since our federation in 1901, our states were previously distinct British colonies.

We went to war under the British flag in WW1, there were plebiscites about conscription but they all failed and thus it was an entirely volunteer force who saw more casualties per capita than any other nation in WW1 despite the entire conflict never getting near us. We are good allies. We also perfomed admirably (albeit under minor threat ourselves, Darwin was a small town at that time which got bombed by the Japanese) in WW2, and were good allies to the US in Korea, Vietnam, various wars against Iraq and in Afghanistan, also to the Poms in Malaya etc. Our alliegance to the western way of life is unquestionable and we're not tyrants or anti-freedom in any sense possibly recognisable by sane Americans.

We underwent the same macroecomic transformation as the UK did under Thatcher or the US did under Reagan in the 1980's, but it was a Labor government who oversaw this so rather than just implement Chicago school theory and leave the workers to suffer the consequences, the government of the day magestically implemented the "social wage" (government single payer health care, government run affordable university education etc) to make up for the wage restraint of that era. Also brought in enterprise bargaining which has seen real wages grow over the decades whilst the macroeconomic reforms kept us out of recession for about 30 years before COVID hit. Those reforms were brilliantly implemented and hats off to our greatest ever politician Paul Keating for leading the way on most of them (also Aboriginal land rights which were sorely lacking prior to his Prime Ministership, he was federal Treasurer during the key economic reforms in the 80's).

John Howard's conservative Liberal government was elected in 1996 after well over a decade of Labor in power and while he generally sucked or did little his gun reforms implemented shortly after his election and the massacre in Tasmania that year are widely regarded as excellent here. Nobody seriously opposes those reforms.

So these things freak out American conservatives. Our conservatives today support restricted access to guns based on evidence, they have stopped opposing Medicare and pretend to love it (and hate any suggestion to the contrary), they aren't about privitising universities and they're even coming around on climate change (hesitantly but they can see the writing on the wall, they still love exporting coal so there's a way to go).

The COVID policies have largely been run by the states and the harsh measures here have been rewarded by voters who have re-elected every state government which has gone to an election since the pandemic began whether conservative or Labor. People want to be safe, we feel safe and reward that.

Our federal government (which bizarrely is the one Cruz and Owens have bagged because they are morons) is a conservative government which has had nothing to do with the lockdowns, that's been done by the states. The federal responsibility is quarantine and access to vaccines, both of which they have farked up and that's why we are pissed at them. For the second time today I'll post this magnificent satirical video which has previously appeared on Fark but it's a great time to watch again why our federal government sucks but not for the reasons American conservatives think:

Honest Government Ad | Quarantine & Vaccines
Youtube X_0zFEtPbiA
 
2021-10-23 5:40:11 AM  
Ah yes--it's almost time for them to be on fire again.  Stay safe, Australia!
 
2021-10-23 5:41:03 AM  
sǝʌlǝsɹnoʎ llᴉʞ ǝsɐǝld 'suɐɔᴉlqndǝɹ ɹɐǝp
 
2021-10-23 5:42:45 AM  
If I can have nice things, you can't have nice things
 
2021-10-23 5:45:38 AM  

ansius: Posted this in another thread:

Help help, we're being oppressed.


as someone who makes graphs for a living those made one eyelid twitch. two very close shades of blue and two close shades of red. orange? purple? I know it sounds crazy. sigh.
 
2021-10-23 5:47:17 AM  

dericwater: Their view of Australia is based off of the Mad Max film franchise?


The funny thing is that if the Mad Max dystopia happens, Texas is the most likely candidate for it.

I would have written "Saudi Arabia", but they aren't as chill with the gay stuff.
 
2021-10-23 5:47:51 AM  

Aussie_As: Seems like an appropriate thread for someone with my username.


Cool, thank you for sharing. The USA and UK and...well every country needs a version of the video.
 
2021-10-23 5:51:18 AM  

chucknasty: sǝʌlǝsɹnoʎ llᴉʞ ǝsɐǝld 'suɐɔᴉlqndǝɹ ɹɐǝp


They're trying.  It's just that they to intend to take everyone else down with them by way of covid variants and climate change.
 
2021-10-23 6:06:37 AM  
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2021-10-23 6:07:48 AM  
How about a compromise? They can lightly carpet bomb Sydney, so long as they fark off afterwards.
 
2021-10-23 6:43:36 AM  

El Rich-o: Like we give a fark what these drongoes think.


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2021-10-23 6:52:03 AM  

Aussie_As: Seems like an appropriate thread for someone with my username.

Some Australian history since our federation in 1901, our states were previously distinct British colonies.

We went to war under the British flag in WW1, there were plebiscites about conscription but they all failed and thus it was an entirely volunteer force who saw more casualties per capita than any other nation in WW1 despite the entire conflict never getting near us. We are good allies. We also perfomed admirably (albeit under minor threat ourselves, Darwin was a small town at that time which got bombed by the Japanese) in WW2, and were good allies to the US in Korea, Vietnam, various wars against Iraq and in Afghanistan, also to the Poms in Malaya etc. Our alliegance to the western way of life is unquestionable and we're not tyrants or anti-freedom in any sense possibly recognisable by sane Americans.

We underwent the same macroecomic transformation as the UK did under Thatcher or the US did under Reagan in the 1980's, but it was a Labor government who oversaw this so rather than just implement Chicago school theory and leave the workers to suffer the consequences, the government of the day magestically implemented the "social wage" (government single payer health care, government run affordable university education etc) to make up for the wage restraint of that era. Also brought in enterprise bargaining which has seen real wages grow over the decades whilst the macroeconomic reforms kept us out of recession for about 30 years before COVID hit. Those reforms were brilliantly implemented and hats off to our greatest ever politician Paul Keating for leading the way on most of them (also Aboriginal land rights which were sorely lacking prior to his Prime Ministership, he was federal Treasurer during the key economic reforms in the 80's).

John Howard's conservative Liberal government was elected in 1996 after well over a decade of Labor in power and while he generally sucked or did little his gun reforms implemented shortly after his election and the massacre in Tasmania that year are widely regarded as excellent here. Nobody seriously opposes those reforms.

So these things freak out American conservatives. Our conservatives today support restricted access to guns based on evidence, they have stopped opposing Medicare and pretend to love it (and hate any suggestion to the contrary), they aren't about privitising universities and they're even coming around on climate change (hesitantly but they can see the writing on the wall, they still love exporting coal so there's a way to go).

The COVID policies have largely been run by the states and the harsh measures here have been rewarded by voters who have re-elected every state government which has gone to an election since the pandemic began whether conservative or Labor. People want to be safe, we feel safe and reward that.

Our federal government (which bizarrely is the one Cruz and Owens have bagged because they are morons) is a conservative government which has had nothing to do with the lockdowns, that's been done by the states. The federal responsibility is quarantine and access to vaccines, both of which they have farked up and that's why we are pissed at them. For the second time today I'll post this magnificent satirical video which has previously appeared on Fark but it's a great time to watch again why our federal government sucks but not for the reasons American conservatives think:

[YouTube video: Honest Government Ad | Quarantine & Vaccines]


Thanks for the Aussie represent. But holy shiatballs, your bias is showing. Keating... 'the recession we have to have'... that hurt more Aussie battlers than any Lib gov ever managed to do. Fark that c*nt. Least you acknowledge Howard's gun laws. But bit strange to say he sucked since he served almost 12 years (2nd longest Prime Minister) and managed economy to heights that brought prosperity to those same battlers that got buttfarked by Keating.
/ Still love ya, Aussie_As.
// You got the earlier history spot on
/// Third for the difference in opinions we obviously have.
 
2021-10-23 6:54:18 AM  
I bet there are a lot of trash, cousins farking, dooduses in Alabama that get pretty riled up when Tucker tells them they should be concerned about Australia
 
2021-10-23 6:56:39 AM  

Gyrfalcon: I'd rather the Australians came to save America from our oppressors.

But they need to leave the spiders and drop bears there. There's only so much liberating I can take.


But can they use the gun that shoots spiders on Ted Cruz at least? Maybe a few others?
 
2021-10-23 6:57:54 AM  

ReaverZ: If I can have nice things, you can't have nice things


the American conservative ethos in a nutshell.

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2021-10-23 6:58:50 AM  
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When smart people pretend they are dumb, sooner or later they WILL be dumb.
 
2021-10-23 6:59:06 AM  

robodog: Jemraine: Right-wing lunacy is America's biggest and least-wanted export.

Eh? A lot of the blame for the modern right wing lunacy in the UK and America falls on Rupert Murdoch and his media empire, he's an Aussie.


Not anymore.. he gave up his Australian citizenship to become an American back in 1985.
 
2021-10-23 6:59:57 AM  

stuartp9: robodog: Jemraine: Right-wing lunacy is America's biggest and least-wanted export.

Eh? A lot of the blame for the modern right wing lunacy in the UK and America falls on Rupert Murdoch and his media empire, he's an Aussie.

Not anymore.. he gave up his Australian citizenship to become an American back in 1985.


You can have him. You poor bastards.
 
2021-10-23 7:03:07 AM  
It bothers them that a society can be laid back and NOT run on hate and fear; politicians easiest and most powerful tools.
But using those tools is like slowly killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.
 
2021-10-23 7:07:54 AM  
Aussie_As:

I proudly wear my Juice Media t-shirt, I especially enjoy the looks when someone bothers to read it :D

"Department of Shiatfarkery" (spelt correctly)
 
2021-10-23 7:13:08 AM  

LordBeavis: "I've always said Australia is the Texas of the Pacific."~Ted "Horsefarker" Cruz

He said this as a compliment but I can't think of a bigger insult.


Yeah. He can fark right off with that.

But if he REALLY wants to, let's compare:

Texas (not a sovereign state)

Freedom to cough on others
Freedom to make choking patriotic noises
Freedom to be poor, starve, freeze or boil to death
Freedom to work multiple jobs just to pay rent
Freedom to be sacked any time
Freedom to watch your public utilities decay or not exist
Freedom to see your Representatives entrench themselves through gerrymander and voter disenfranchising

Australia (sovereign, independent nation 11 times bigger than Texas):

Freedom to be paid no less than $20 an hour and have industry standard minimumsFreedom to be paid penalty rates for being casual or working night, evenings, weekends or more than 38hr/weekFreedom to take 4 weeks paid annual leave and 2 weeks paid "sick/personal" leave a year, cumulative.Freedom to take 3 months paid long service leave after 10 years
Freedom to have regular paid tea breaks and meal breaks
Freedom to be paid a 10% superannuation guarantee and old age pension
Freedom to be treated through universal free basic health care and subsidised medicines,
Freedom to have an aged or disability pension and unemployment benefits
Freedom to earn enough to pay progressive income taxes or a clean 10% GST
Freedom to NOT vote by paying a $20 fee
Freedom to run for political office without being one of the major parties
Freedom to choose your House of Reps candidate by ranked choice
Freedom to live in a nation whose electoral boundaries are made in accordance with entrenched rules by independent, professional, non-partisan officals
Freedom to choose your 12 Senators by proportional representation
Freedom to vote in an election to resolve a deadlock in ParliamentFreedom to kick out the government by convincing a majority of your Reps to do soFreedom to change the constitution by a double-majority (states and voters) referendumFreedom not to get shot by military grade automatic weapons when attending schoolsFreedom to be laughed at for being a redneck, city cowboy, conspiracy theorist or COVIDiot.Freedom to enjoy the world's best beers, beaches, drive through bottle shops, opera houses, fillums, sharks, spiders, snakes, marsupials and shielas,Freedom not to risk being infected by COVID by knowing that those symptomatic must stay home until they get a negative testFreedom to go to a shop or pub and not be infected by a non-mask wearing mouth breatherFreedom to live in a nation where half the states and territories are COVID free.We aren't perfect, and there's a hell of a lot we could be doing better. But thank God we're not Texas.Compared to Ted Cruz's state of freedumb, it's a farking paradise.
 
2021-10-23 7:16:34 AM  
"But the use of Australia as a foil is specifically for a certain kind of right-wing fantasy..."

They live in fantasy, these days.
 
2021-10-23 7:20:57 AM  

LiberalConservative: Thanks for the Aussie represent. But holy shiatballs, your bias is showing. Keating... 'the recession we have to have'... that hurt more Aussie battlers than any Lib gov ever managed to do. Fark that c*nt. Least you acknowledge Howard's gun laws. But bit strange to say he sucked since he served almost 12 years (2nd longest Prime Minister) and managed economy to heights that brought prosperity to those same battlers that got buttfarked by Keating.
/ Still love ya, Aussie_As.
// You got the earlier history spot on
/// Third for the difference in opinions we obviously have.


Mate no economist anywhere disagrees with the assessment that the 1991 recession was the recession we had to have. You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs and the price Australia paid for economic reforms which took our economy from a highly regulated cyclical beast which guaranteed a recession every 6-8 years no matter whether Labor or the tories were in power to a stable performer which went nearly 30 years without recession and would still be there now but for COVID was the 1991 recession (and also the closure of some unsustainable industries which were propped up by expensive tarrifs in the 80's).

Howard's "economic management" was to do nothing. Which is not a criticism, it's what he was supposed to do. Keating set it up that as long as any government stayed within reasonable spending limits and the independent Reserve Bank did it's job there could not be a recession. That's how Howard survived the Asian crisis of the late 90's, it's how Rudd/Gillard survived the global meltdown a decade later. They just kept things on simmer and didn't let them boil over, the economic setup Keating designed (floated the dollar, deregulated finance, reduced wage regulation, eliminated price regulation, pretty well eliminated inflation directly due to the 1991 recession and reduced tarriffs on a sliding scale) did all the work for them.

Howard wasted a resources boom and failed to invest in today's generation. That's why he's a tool. But those gun laws were bold and excellently implemented and I won't take that away from him. Howard's multiple re-elections were due largely to his anti-refugee stance. I'll somewhat begrudgingly admit he was probably right on the anti-boatpeople stuff because the alternative would have cost a hell of a lot of lives at sea. So he's got that one too. But the only macroeconomic reform he and Costello can take credit for is, interestingly, one I've never seen them claim credit for - they re-regulated the finance sector to keep out some of the particularly dodgy investments which crashed the US economy under George W Bush at the end of his presidency. That was the entire macroecomic reform history of 12 years of their government. It pales in comparison to Keating - because Keating had already done the hard yards and they just had to leave those in place, which to their credit they did.
 
2021-10-23 7:30:08 AM  

minorshan: Jemraine: Right-wing lunacy is America's biggest and least-wanted export.

To be fair, Rupert Murdoch came from Australia and ruined all the English speaking world's news organizations.


And I thought the most poisonous thing from Australia would be a snake.
 
2021-10-23 7:30:50 AM  

stuartp9: robodog: Jemraine: Right-wing lunacy is America's biggest and least-wanted export.

Eh? A lot of the blame for the modern right wing lunacy in the UK and America falls on Rupert Murdoch and his media empire, he's an Aussie.

Not anymore.. he gave up his Australian citizenship to become an American back in 1985.


He was granted special access to the relevant authorities, and had his application expedited by Raygunz himself who also simultaneously pushed for the revocation of foreign entities near-total ban on owning domestic media companies. He should never have been allowed in this country. Now every "news" outlet is basically the Weakly World News.
 
2021-10-23 7:40:09 AM  

omg bbq: They've had decades to apologize for hitler and yet they do nothing.


I always liked the Australian Alps and the Sound of Music.
 
2021-10-23 7:52:57 AM  

robodog: Jemraine: Right-wing lunacy is America's biggest and least-wanted export.

Eh? A lot of the blame for the modern right wing lunacy in the UK and America falls on Rupert Murdoch and his media empire, he's an Aussie.


Murdoch's poison can be found across most of the English speaking world.  Some countries manage to have moderately competent government in spite of this.  And some don't.

I don't know that I'd want to be too quick to praise the smarts of those that don't.
 
2021-10-23 7:54:59 AM  
For some reason I expected to find a series of pictures of Australians in skimpy beach attire in his thread.

Sigh.
 
2021-10-23 7:58:10 AM  

Astorix: [Fark user image 850x597]

When smart people pretend they are dumb, sooner or later they WILL be dumb.


When I was at college I had a good friend who is one of the smartest people I've ever met.  But she played the dumb blond.  One day I said to her

"Hey X what's the difference between a dumb blond and smart blond that acts dumb?

"What?"

"Nothing"

The look of shock and horror that passed over her face was something to be seen. She never acted dumb again.
 
2021-10-23 8:04:34 AM  

minorshan: Jemraine: Right-wing lunacy is America's biggest and least-wanted export.

To be fair, Rupert Murdoch came from Australia and ruined all the English speaking world's news organizations.


New Zealand does not have any Murdoch media properties as far as I know. They seems to be the sanest Anglo country by far.
 
2021-10-23 8:09:31 AM  

princhester: robodog: Jemraine: Right-wing lunacy is America's biggest and least-wanted export.

Eh? A lot of the blame for the modern right wing lunacy in the UK and America falls on Rupert Murdoch and his media empire, he's an Aussie.

Murdoch's poison can be found across most of the English speaking world.  Some countries manage to have moderately competent government in spite of this.  And some don't.

I don't know that I'd want to be too quick to praise the smarts of those that don't.


Most people would say they'd kill Hitler if they had a time machine, i'd instead go with making sure Murdoch was instead only ever a miscarriage, see how that profits the world as a whole.
 
2021-10-23 8:11:18 AM  

Aussie_As: John Howard's conservative Liberal government was elected in 1996 after well over a decade of Labor in power and while he generally sucked or did little his gun reforms implemented shortly after his election and the massacre in Tasmania that year are widely regarded as excellent here. Nobody seriously opposes those reforms.


I like seeing things like this from Australians, because a conservative of my acquaintance recently informed me that Australians hated the gun reforms and fought vigorously against them just like Americans would have, and  nobody wanted to hand in their piles of automatic weapons but the government forced them to.

Apparently they didn't use their automatic weapons to fight back like Americans would have because reasons. Or because the Australian Army is much better than the US Army? Anyway, he changed the subject when I asked about that part.
 
2021-10-23 8:11:41 AM  

Gyrfalcon: I'd rather the Australians came to save America from our oppressors.

But they need to leave the spiders and drop bears there. There's only so much liberating I can take.



Comment of the Day.
 
2021-10-23 8:12:57 AM  
Thinking of ... a bikini'd Bindi in a billabong?
 
2021-10-23 8:15:09 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Aussie_As: John Howard's conservative Liberal government was elected in 1996 after well over a decade of Labor in power and while he generally sucked or did little his gun reforms implemented shortly after his election and the massacre in Tasmania that year are widely regarded as excellent here. Nobody seriously opposes those reforms.

I like seeing things like this from Australians, because a conservative of my acquaintance recently informed me that Australians hated the gun reforms and fought vigorously against them just like Americans would have, and  nobody wanted to hand in their piles of automatic weapons but the government forced them to.

Apparently they didn't use their automatic weapons to fight back like Americans would have because reasons. Or because the Australian Army is much better than the US Army? Anyway, he changed the subject when I asked about that part.


The Daily Show John Oliver's Australia & Gun Control's Aftermath Complete 3 Part Series
Youtube A0FLsIzNxkI
 
2021-10-23 8:15:12 AM  

dericwater: Their view of Australia is based off of the Mad Max film franchise?


The Mad Max universe would be a massive improvement over the hell scape of Texas.
 
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