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(Guardian)   The worst part of takeout isn't the food, but the nonrecyclable packaging. Startups are trying to change that with reusable containers, making your delivery boxes as green as the artisanal kale and Thai spinach sliders they contain   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2021-10-22 9:46:43 PM  
I've been reusing takeout containers for years.
This is a Millennial thing,isn't it?
 
2021-10-22 9:56:20 PM  
I thought the worst part was the cold food. Most of our containers had the recyclable-triangle on the bottom. Maybe we were ordering from "downscale" restaurants.
 
2021-10-22 10:43:13 PM  
Most of the places near me in DC use cardboard, but there's one restaurant that will package your takeout in those Gladware containers you see in the grocery store for an extra $2, which I thought was an excellent idea. I use those things all the time, so every time I order from there I get the Glad containers (which are recyclable). They make great cat food dishes, too.
 
2021-10-22 11:21:25 PM  
I use my cheap plastic takeout container to start seedlings.
 
2021-10-22 11:40:41 PM  
Yeah so what the hell is the article talking about "single use"?!
 
2021-10-23 12:15:02 AM  
The to-gocontainers that are all the same size mean you can stack them much easier than a collection of Tupperware containers.  Since they are transparent, you don't have to try and memorize what is inside each of them.  Just get some masking tape and a sharpie to put the date the food was prepared on the container, and you can easily sort your refrigerator instead of opening a container and getting a mold special.
 
2021-10-23 1:02:07 AM  
Remember, lots of folks are always happy to make money off a problem. "Sure, we'll save the planet... for 20% of your sales."

Oh, did I mention that we're in the middle of a pandemic? The LAST GODDAMNED THING I want is my food delivered in a previously-used container.
 
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2021-10-23 1:10:42 AM  

cretinbob: I've been reusing takeout containers for years.
This is a Millennial thing,isn't it?


Or whatever they're calling the successor generation to the Millennials.

There are two Chinese restaurants that we frequent, one down near us that we get their delivery, and one up near my folks' house that we go get takout.  They seem to both use the same rectangularish microwave-safe containers, so we can stack all of the bases and lids together regardless of where they came from and use them for leftovers etc.  They also survive being put through the automatic dishwasher.

The abuser is the grocery store's onsite sushi counter, whose containers are not really reusable.  They're very flimsy and there's no indication if they're able to into either appliance, so into the bin they go.  I'd be fine with the sushi served from a waxed cardboard base with a thin paper top but apparently a lot of sushi buyers are visual in their selections.  Just getting nigiri sushi it doesn't really matter very much what it looks like so long as the fish is sufficiently fresh.

My wife finally bought new containers recently, we needed some larger sizes and the old ones that we'd had for probably fifteen years suffered enough lid cracks that we couldn't use them anymore.  Just about all of the other contaners acquired within that period have been from deli lunchmeats back when I was brown-bagging it to work every day, the containers themselves might not be as environmentally friendly if used as throwaway packagng but reused for years and years they're no worse than rubbermaid or tupperware, other than one doesn't care if they do happen to need to be thrown away instead of taken back home for reuse on the odd occasion when it's not possible.
 
2021-10-23 1:42:41 AM  
Firehouse Subs boxes are made from sugar cane waste.
 
2021-10-23 2:15:19 AM  
Meanwhile at the grocery store...

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2021-10-23 2:38:03 AM  

toddalmighty: Firehouse Subs boxes are made from sugar cane waste.


Just built on slave labor from the DR then.

:/
 
2021-10-23 4:34:51 AM  

erik-k: Meanwhile at the grocery store...
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You know what this country needs?  Easier ways to eat food.
And take-out is part of it.  Every farking bit of it.
 
2021-10-23 6:54:51 AM  

SplittingAces: I thought the worst part was the cold food. Most of our containers had the recyclable-triangle on the bottom. Maybe we were ordering from "downscale" restaurants.


You know those are bullshiat pushed by the plastics industry? Anything but a "1" or "2" is going to end up in a landfill. And even those aren't guaranteed. It's not economically viable to recycle most plastics.
 
2021-10-23 7:13:43 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: SplittingAces: I thought the worst part was the cold food. Most of our containers had the recyclable-triangle on the bottom. Maybe we were ordering from "downscale" restaurants.

You know those are bullshiat pushed by the plastics industry? Anything but a "1" or "2" is going to end up in a landfill. And even those aren't guaranteed. It's not economically viable to recycle most plastics.


Also, people throwing away supposedly recyclable containers don't clean them properly which can gum up the works at the recycling facility so with the volume they get, workers throw stuff in the trash.

During lockdown, I was ordering via DoorDash when I got sick of cooking every so often. My favorite spots began using compost able containers, which is great.
 
2021-10-23 7:29:12 AM  
Here in NJ: my local Chinese restaurant is unwilling to take back their very reusable plastic containers as a whole. They don't have the facilities to clean them to health dept standards.

But, they do let me bring them back for my order and they'll directly put my order in them, which is something
 
2021-10-23 8:29:45 AM  
Good. Maybe the awesome Mexican drive thru near me will ditch the 70s style school cafeteria foam trays so I can eat my chicken enchilada combo plate without feeling like I'm killing manatees.
 
2021-10-23 9:10:36 AM  

erik-k: Meanwhile at the grocery store...

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Looks like pre-peeled oranges for people with arthritis, or with other manual dexterity problems.

Basically, people who can't peel oranges due to age or medical issues can still enjoy them
 
2021-10-23 10:39:51 AM  
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still at it just not here
 
2021-10-23 1:41:29 PM  

FormlessOne: Remember, lots of folks are always happy to make money off a problem. "Sure, we'll save the planet... for 20% of your sales."

Oh, did I mention that we're in the middle of a pandemic? The LAST GODDAMNED THING I want is my food delivered in a previously-used container.


Covid can survive on plastic surfaces for 2 to 3 days.

Though in reality, though a dish washer isn't an autoclave, that combined with the duration between the container being reused would make me consider it safe.

I think the idea is stupid though, just reuse all plastic, paper, metal etc. Its annoying to have to sort your garbage, in, I think to up to 7 different garbage cans. But rather than, than having to save up stuff, for the next time you return to the store. Since this is a "for pay" design, rather than just an agreed upon free standard, you'll end up with a crap experience.
 
2021-10-23 4:00:55 PM  

Cthushi: erik-k: Meanwhile at the grocery store...

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Looks like pre-peeled oranges for people with arthritis, or with other manual dexterity problems.

Basically, people who can't peel oranges due to age or medical issues can still enjoy them


How about this - if you can't peel an orange, you don't get an orange?

It's hard to advocate for a person's right to an easily edible orange.
 
2021-10-23 5:08:44 PM  

The Darkest Timeline: Cthushi: erik-k: Meanwhile at the grocery store...

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Looks like pre-peeled oranges for people with arthritis, or with other manual dexterity problems.

Basically, people who can't peel oranges due to age or medical issues can still enjoy them

How about this - if you can't peel an orange, you don't get an orange?

It's hard to advocate for a person's right to an easily edible orange.


"If you can't kill, clean, skin, butcher, and portion a cow, you don't get beef."
"If you can't milk, churn, salt, and block butter, you don't get butter."
"If you can't farm, harvest, ferment, press, and bottle soy sauce, you don't get soy sauce."

That's how that argument sounds.
 
2021-10-23 5:35:35 PM  

cretinbob: I've been reusing takeout containers for years.
This is a Millennial thing,isn't it?


Seriously; who needs to buy tupperware when you can stock kitchen cabinets over the course of a few takeout orders.
 
2021-10-23 5:35:56 PM  
Bring your own container? I doubt this will ever become the norm.

All we need to ruin this idea is enough sloppy morons to bring their unsanitary, contaminated containers to a restaurant to be filled, then go home and get sick, and then sue the restaurant for food poisoning because "my container was fine, your kitchen gave me botulism!"

Frankly, I figure bio-degradable fast food wrapping & containers would work out better than reusable containers, since bio-degradable contents can be thrown away like trash without any effort or new behavior on the part of the consumer.
 
2021-10-23 5:47:21 PM  

cryinoutloud: erik-k: Meanwhile at the grocery store...
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You know what this country needs?  Easier ways to eat food.
And take-out is part of it.  Every farking bit of it.


I could see that would be awesome for someone with arthritis or neuropathy of the hands.

For everyone else, what a waste.
 
2021-10-23 5:50:51 PM  
There's a lot of wasted cellulose out there.  Fund the research to find a way to stiffen it up reliably, safely, and cheaply. Then make a law requiring all packaging to be created from waste cellulose. Do it right and you can run it through all the pre-existing paper and injection molding package manufacturers. Any binder must be material that can be broken down by pre-existing soil bacteria.

Solved. Next problem. Lol
 
2021-10-23 5:54:30 PM  

Pigeonhole: Bring your own container? I doubt this will ever become the norm.

All we need to ruin this idea is enough sloppy morons to bring their unsanitary, contaminated containers to a restaurant to be filled, then go home and get sick, and then sue the restaurant for food poisoning because "my container was fine, your kitchen gave me botulism!"

Frankly, I figure bio-degradable fast food wrapping & containers would work out better than reusable containers, since bio-degradable contents can be thrown away like trash without any effort or new behavior on the part of the consumer.


It works splendidly for breweries.  Bring your 1 gallon container and get it filled with delicious beer. No cans or bottles to recycle or toss, just re-use the one you have.
 
2021-10-23 7:14:49 PM  
Somehow I read "reusable spiders" in the headline.
 
2021-10-23 8:26:57 PM  

FormlessOne: Remember, lots of folks are always happy to make money off a problem. "Sure, we'll save the planet... for 20% of your sales."

Oh, did I mention that we're in the middle of a pandemic? The LAST GODDAMNED THING I want is my food delivered in a previously-used container.


Minimum wage worker uses dish soap!

It's super effective!

Enveloped virus is defeated!
 
2021-10-23 9:10:07 PM  

SplittingAces: I thought the worst part was the cold food. Most of our containers had the recyclable-triangle on the bottom. Maybe we were ordering from "downscale" restaurants.


Most takeout plastic seems to be #5 plastic, which is one of the least recycled. (Not that the rates for #1 or #2 are so much better). I've been just throwing anything above 2 in the garbage.
 
2021-10-23 10:29:52 PM  
I have been making a point of only visiting the local restaurants with compostable to-go packaging, but I saw one of them featured recently as being chock full of PFAS.

I'm irate because there is no good option, but slowly poisoning myself seems to still be the  best option.

/I want to just be able to bring a pyrex bowl in to get my food, but understand the logistical difficulty with that.
 
2021-10-24 8:25:47 AM  

FormlessOne: The Darkest Timeline: Cthushi: erik-k: Meanwhile at the grocery store...

[Fark user image 425x238]

Looks like pre-peeled oranges for people with arthritis, or with other manual dexterity problems.

Basically, people who can't peel oranges due to age or medical issues can still enjoy them

How about this - if you can't peel an orange, you don't get an orange?

It's hard to advocate for a person's right to an easily edible orange.

"If you can't kill, clean, skin, butcher, and portion a cow, you don't get beef."
"If you can't milk, churn, salt, and block butter, you don't get butter."
"If you can't farm, harvest, ferment, press, and bottle soy sauce, you don't get soy sauce."

That's how that argument sounds.


all of ^this.

my wife's parents are in their 80s and have trouble. my own dad just turned 71, and between Vietnam and industrial accidents is missing more than a few distal phalanges. me, my hands are intact but thanks to taking fire in illegal war-crimes there's more than a bit of neuropathy, lol!

I will happily peel oranges for anyone who wants. my little niece and I can easily devour a 3-5lb bag of clementines before you can even say the word mandarin.

/Unca' YOU DIDN'T TAKE THE SEEDS OUT AND THERE'S STILL SOME WHITE STUFF
//sorry MizLiz, I'll try harder next time :P
///don't stick your tongue out at me Unca' YOU SAY THAT EVERY TIME
 
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