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2021-10-22 7:19:11 PM  
No Lucas without his wife telling him no ruined star wars.
 
2021-10-22 7:27:37 PM  

alechemist: No Lucas without his wife telling him no ruined star wars.


I don't know this story.  And speaking for the group, please... tell us more
 
2021-10-22 7:31:31 PM  
Kids who are now adults who grew up liking his shiatty diarrhea-like acting are excited over this.

Do you know how I know my generation isn't as farked up as these morons?
By the time I was ten or so, I was way the f*ck beyond the stupid f*cking Ewoks. I liked them when I was little and didn't know any better, but even before my voice and/or balls dropped I knew they were shiat.

The fact that young people of today don't know any better isn't a good sign...
 
2021-10-22 7:53:03 PM  
Is he or is he not going to be dressed in the full Vader uniform and helmet?
 
2021-10-22 7:53:49 PM  
Not necessarily, Lucas is just a shiatty director.
 
2021-10-22 7:56:08 PM  
What happened to the farking Mandalorian? Where is the little baby Yodder?  They farked shiat up purty good.


/only star wars I liked
 
2021-10-22 8:02:50 PM  

BunkyBrewman: alechemist: No Lucas without his wife telling him no ruined star wars.

I don't know this story.  And speaking for the group, please... tell us more


Lucas had a lot of young, talented filmmaker friends when he started out, and his wife was a good editor and creative soundboard that many believe was the key to the success of the first Star Wars. Lucas lost a relative amount of control during the making of The Empire Strikes Back and then reasserted his control with Return Of The Jedi and had the most control over the first two prequels. Steven Spielberg was, er, the chief creative consultant on Episode III.

Lucas had an acrimonious divorce, so much so that it was the main reason for him creating the Special Editions of the original trilogy - to stop his wife from getting any more Star Wars royalties.
 
2021-10-22 8:18:28 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: BunkyBrewman: alechemist: No Lucas without his wife telling him no ruined star wars.

I don't know this story.  And speaking for the group, please... tell us more

Lucas had a lot of young, talented filmmaker friends when he started out, and his wife was a good editor and creative soundboard that many believe was the key to the success of the first Star Wars.



Adding to that, this video does a great job of explaining how editing saved Star Wars:

How Star Wars was saved in the edit
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For one example (explained much better above): In the original cut, The Death Star was not going to destroy the rebel base.

Yup, that's right: it was just hangin' out in space, derping along. No risk to the protagonists at all.

All of that tense 'Death Star in range in five minutes' stuff in the rebel control room while the x-wings attacked? Added in post.

Fantastic editing really did save that movie. That Oscar was deserved.
 
2021-10-22 8:19:47 PM  

BunkyBrewman: alechemist: No Lucas without his wife telling him no ruined star wars.

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Let's just say that if Lucas had the same level of control during episodes 4-6, Han Solo would have been a lizard person.
 
2021-10-22 8:28:43 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: Is he or is he not going to be dressed in the full Vader uniform and helmet?


Likely a Force ghost in Ashoka.  No clue what form in Obi-wan Kenobi.
 
2021-10-22 9:31:59 PM  
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2021-10-22 9:32:20 PM  

Quasar: BunkyBrewman: alechemist: No Lucas without his wife telling him no ruined star wars.

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Let's just say that if Lucas had the same level of control during episodes 4-6, Han Solo would have been a lizard person.


WE CAN'T BRUNCH HERE.....THIS IS GORN COUNTRY!
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2021-10-22 9:42:03 PM  
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2021-10-22 9:42:32 PM  
Star Wars is so vast at this point I can pick & choose what I care about

JarJar OUT
Jedi Temple Challenge IN
 
2021-10-22 9:46:51 PM  
Wait a minute...I thought we were all pretending to LOVE everything about the Prequels now.  Wasn't that the routine?  You know...we conveniently forget all of the things mentioned in the Plinkett reviews that we originally agreed with, and act like the prequels are under-appreciated masterpieces, just to spite the Sequel Trilogy?

Oh well...guess I missed a meeting.
 
2021-10-22 9:49:45 PM  

puffy999: The fact that young people of today don't know any better isn't a good sign...


The only thing sadder than today's young adults still liking Jar-Jar is my generation turning into annoying, bitter farking curmudgeons complaining about young people liking what they don't like, just like the grumpy old assholes we hated when we were young.

I'd rather deal with dozens of kids strolling across my lawn than yet another aging, out of touch shiathead griping because younger people like something he or she doesn't like. At least those kids on my lawn are still alive inside.
 
2021-10-22 9:51:47 PM  

shoegaze99: puffy999: The fact that young people of today don't know any better isn't a good sign...

The only thing sadder than today's young adults still liking Jar-Jar is my generation turning into annoying, bitter farking curmudgeons complaining about young people liking what they don't like, just like the grumpy old assholes we hated when we were young.

I'd rather deal with dozens of kids strolling across my lawn than yet another aging, out of touch shiathead griping because younger people like something he or she doesn't like. At least those kids on my lawn are still alive inside.


So YOU'RE the Ewok fan.
 
2021-10-22 9:55:53 PM  

shoegaze99: puffy999: The fact that young people of today don't know any better isn't a good sign...

The only thing sadder than today's young adults still liking Jar-Jar is my generation turning into annoying, bitter farking curmudgeons complaining about young people liking what they don't like, just like the grumpy old assholes we hated when we were young.

I'd rather deal with dozens of kids strolling across my lawn than yet another aging, out of touch shiathead griping because younger people like something he or she doesn't like. At least those kids on my lawn are still alive inside.


The problem with Sequel Trilogy was that The Powers That Be were more interested in pandering to the people who were still butthurt about the Prequel Trilogy than making an entertaining story.

A big part of why "The Mandalorian" is entertaining is that they're not pandering to those people.
 
2021-10-22 10:02:59 PM  

BunkyBrewman: alechemist: No Lucas without his wife telling him no ruined star wars.

I don't know this story.  And speaking for the group, please... tell us more


his wife was an editor who made a shiat movie good
 
2021-10-22 10:06:21 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: The problem with Sequel Trilogy was that The Powers That Be were more interested in pandering to the people who were still butthurt about the Prequel Trilogy than making an entertaining story


Right. And this is pandering to people who either liked that prequel series, or apparently thought a snotty crybaby made a great villain.

It's like finding the Boondock Saints II fans and asking what they wanted.
 
2021-10-22 10:21:24 PM  
I mean, he was miscast and poorly directed, sure, but I don't know that anyone thought Christiansen "ruined Star Wars". Everyone other than Ewan McGregor gave a horrible performance in the prequels and we know from other films that most of them are good enough actors.
 
2021-10-22 10:26:59 PM  

Jim_Callahan: I mean, he was miscast and poorly directed, sure, but I don't know that anyone thought Christiansen "ruined Star Wars". Everyone other than Ewan McGregor gave a horrible performance in the prequels and we know from other films that most of them are good enough actors.


exactly, exactly. The only thing he ruined was Return of the Jedi
 
2021-10-22 10:27:12 PM  
Hey he did a great job in Life as a House, I don't blame him for Star Wars. The Phantom Menace is considered the worst of the prequels and he wasn't in it.
 
2021-10-22 10:41:29 PM  

puffy999: Kids who are now adults who grew up liking his shiatty diarrhea-like acting are excited over this.

Do you know how I know my generation isn't as farked up as these morons?
By the time I was ten or so, I was way the f*ck beyond the stupid f*cking Ewoks. I liked them when I was little and didn't know any better, but even before my voice and/or balls dropped I knew they were shiat.

The fact that young people of today don't know any better isn't a good sign...


Also, to our credit , when ROTJ was over we were desperate for ANYTHING Star Wars for 15 years. We even put up with Dark Empire and The Courtship of Princess Leia
 
2021-10-22 10:44:35 PM  

Jim_Callahan: I mean, he was miscast and poorly directed, sure, but I don't know that anyone thought Christiansen "ruined Star Wars". Everyone other than Ewan McGregor gave a horrible performance in the prequels and we know from other films that most of them are good enough actors.


I always liked his line delivery for "what if people don't agree?" "Then someone should MAKE them" as a good transition to Vader.
He really didn't have much to work with.
 
2021-10-22 10:47:01 PM  

alechemist: No Lucas without his wife telling him no ruined star wars.


This thread? This thread is already done. Been done since post one. It just don't know it yet.
 
2021-10-22 10:52:12 PM  

Fano: puffy999: Kids who are now adults who grew up liking his shiatty diarrhea-like acting are excited over this.

Do you know how I know my generation isn't as farked up as these morons?
By the time I was ten or so, I was way the f*ck beyond the stupid f*cking Ewoks. I liked them when I was little and didn't know any better, but even before my voice and/or balls dropped I knew they were shiat.

The fact that young people of today don't know any better isn't a good sign...

Also, to our credit , when ROTJ was over we were desperate for ANYTHING Star Wars for 15 years. We even put up with Dark Empire and The Courtship of Princess Leia


And that Christmas thing.
 
2021-10-22 10:56:41 PM  

Fano: puffy999: Kids who are now adults who grew up liking his shiatty diarrhea-like acting are excited over this.

Do you know how I know my generation isn't as farked up as these morons?
By the time I was ten or so, I was way the f*ck beyond the stupid f*cking Ewoks. I liked them when I was little and didn't know any better, but even before my voice and/or balls dropped I knew they were shiat.

The fact that young people of today don't know any better isn't a good sign...

Also, to our credit , when ROTJ was over we were desperate for ANYTHING Star Wars for 15 years. We even put up with Dark Empire and The Courtship of Princess Leia


Don't forget those Ewok movies, lol
 
2021-10-22 10:58:24 PM  

Science_Guy_3.14159: Fano: puffy999: Kids who are now adults who grew up liking his shiatty diarrhea-like acting are excited over this.

Do you know how I know my generation isn't as farked up as these morons?
By the time I was ten or so, I was way the f*ck beyond the stupid f*cking Ewoks. I liked them when I was little and didn't know any better, but even before my voice and/or balls dropped I knew they were shiat.

The fact that young people of today don't know any better isn't a good sign...

Also, to our credit , when ROTJ was over we were desperate for ANYTHING Star Wars for 15 years. We even put up with Dark Empire and The Courtship of Princess Leia

Don't forget those Ewok movies, lol


And the E e e e Ewok cartoon and Droids. They were desperate times where the torch was barely kept lit by playing West End Games Star Wars and X-Wing, TIE Fighter, and the rest
 
2021-10-22 11:05:28 PM  
Even as badly flawed as they were, I don't hate the prequels. They still felt like Star Wars. So did the Clone Wars series and The Mandalorian. Looking forward to The Book of Boba Fett and Asohka.
 
2021-10-22 11:16:41 PM  
I find it funny when alt-right rage trolls scream at me that the Prequels are masterpieces now because they were created by ONE MAN PATRIARCH LUCAS WITH PURE UNCOMPROMISED VISION, but the Sequels will soon be erased and forgotten.  Haaa, no.  The Prequels are hilariously and interestingly bad, while the Sequels are genuinely great.

But I do want to give credit to Lucas.  I'm beginning to think he was smarter than we know.  It's like he realized that cool things fade over time, but cringe is forever.

Kids think that Revenge of the Sith is the best movie ever?  That's cool.  And it's no different than some kid in 1984 thinking that Raiders of the Lost Ark and Ghostbusters were the best movies of all time, while the adults dismissed both of them as disposable commercial trash.
 
2021-10-22 11:33:31 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: BunkyBrewman: alechemist: No Lucas without his wife telling him no ruined star wars.

I don't know this story.  And speaking for the group, please... tell us more

Lucas had a lot of young, talented filmmaker friends when he started out, and his wife was a good editor and creative soundboard that many believe was the key to the success of the first Star Wars. Lucas lost a relative amount of control during the making of The Empire Strikes Back and then reasserted his control with Return Of The Jedi and had the most control over the first two prequels. Steven Spielberg was, er, the chief creative consultant on Episode III.

Lucas had an acrimonious divorce, so much so that it was the main reason for him creating the Special Editions of the original trilogy - to stop his wife from getting any more Star Wars royalties.


Don't forget the Sarlacc looking like a vagina dentata...
 
2021-10-22 11:42:56 PM  

dsmith42: thatguyoverthere70: BunkyBrewman: alechemist: No Lucas without his wife telling him no ruined star wars.

I don't know this story.  And speaking for the group, please... tell us more

Lucas had a lot of young, talented filmmaker friends when he started out, and his wife was a good editor and creative soundboard that many believe was the key to the success of the first Star Wars. Lucas lost a relative amount of control during the making of The Empire Strikes Back and then reasserted his control with Return Of The Jedi and had the most control over the first two prequels. Steven Spielberg was, er, the chief creative consultant on Episode III.

Lucas had an acrimonious divorce, so much so that it was the main reason for him creating the Special Editions of the original trilogy - to stop his wife from getting any more Star Wars royalties.

Don't forget the Sarlacc looking like a vagina dentata...


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2021-10-23 12:01:19 AM  

Socrofece: I find it funny when alt-right rage trolls scream at me that the Prequels are masterpieces now because they were created by ONE MAN PATRIARCH LUCAS WITH PURE UNCOMPROMISED VISION, but the Sequels will soon be erased and forgotten.  Haaa, no.  The Prequels are hilariously and interestingly bad, while the Sequels are genuinely great.

But I do want to give credit to Lucas.  I'm beginning to think he was smarter than we know.  It's like he realized that cool things fade over time, but cringe is forever.

Kids think that Revenge of the Sith is the best movie ever?  That's cool.  And it's no different than some kid in 1984 thinking that Raiders of the Lost Ark and Ghostbusters were the best movies of all time, while the adults dismissed both of them as disposable commercial trash.


I just finished Clone Wars and followed it with a rewatch of RotS. In that context it was pretty good. There are some oddities (Anakin's flip flopping on whether he's trying to stop Sidious or job him, their engineers mastered FTL travel but their doctors can't detect twins in the womb, the Jedi are on the wrong side of the war but have no clue until it's shoved up their collective asses where their heads usually reside) but that's called Star Wars. If you can't overlook those tiny details then this series isn't for you.

All the issues are with the writing, directing, and editing, and not with the acting.
 
2021-10-23 12:03:11 AM  

Jim_Callahan: I mean, he was miscast and poorly directed, sure, but I don't know that anyone thought Christiansen "ruined Star Wars". Everyone other than Ewan McGregor gave a horrible performance in the prequels and we know from other films that most of them are good enough actors.


Ian McDiarmid was good as well, particularly once he came out as the gleefully evil Emperor.
 
2021-10-23 12:06:27 AM  

Socrofece: I find it funny when alt-right rage trolls scream at me that the Prequels are masterpieces now because they were created by ONE MAN PATRIARCH LUCAS WITH PURE UNCOMPROMISED VISION, but the Sequels will soon be erased and forgotten.  Haaa, no.  The Prequels are hilariously and interestingly bad, while the Sequels are genuinely great.

But I do want to give credit to Lucas.  I'm beginning to think he was smarter than we know.  It's like he realized that cool things fade over time, but cringe is forever.

Kids think that Revenge of the Sith is the best movie ever?  That's cool.  And it's no different than some kid in 1984 thinking that Raiders of the Lost Ark and Ghostbusters were the best movies of all time, while the adults dismissed both of them as disposable commercial trash.


Hit Add too soon.

Anyway, if Christensen wants to come back for Ashoka. Good for him.

And citation needed on anyone dismissing Lost Ark as disposable commercial trash.
 
2021-10-23 12:07:24 AM  
Star Wars peaked with X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter.
 
2021-10-23 12:14:26 AM  
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Has anyone seen Apple TV's Foundation?  It's garbage and craps all over the original material.  Lots of talented actors and fantastic production values, but despite a few good moments here and there it's so awful it makes me want to tear my hair out.

It reminds me of something else.  Can't quite put my finger on it...
 
2021-10-23 12:17:26 AM  
On Lost Ark being dismissed by adults, one adult called it "more than just a technological triumph" and "a swashbuckling adventure epic in the tradition of Star Wars" with "the best chase scene I've seen in a film."

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/rai​ders-of-the-lost-ark-1981

In AFI's 100 greatest American films, Lost Ark is 66. (Star Wars is 13.) No one worth listening to on the subject of motion pictures is dismissing it as trash.
 
2021-10-23 12:31:22 AM  
Face it, everything after the Empire Strikes Back has been pretty bad.
 
2021-10-23 12:51:21 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: BunkyBrewman: alechemist: No Lucas without his wife telling him no ruined star wars.

I don't know this story.  And speaking for the group, please... tell us more

Lucas had a lot of young, talented filmmaker friends when he started out, and his wife was a good editor and creative soundboard that many believe was the key to the success of the first Star Wars. Lucas lost a relative amount of control during the making of The Empire Strikes Back and then reasserted his control with Return Of The Jedi and had the most control over the first two prequels. Steven Spielberg was, er, the chief creative consultant on Episode III.

Lucas had an acrimonious divorce, so much so that it was the main reason for him creating the Special Editions of the original trilogy - to stop his wife from getting any more Star Wars royalties.


Huh, I knew most of it, but I never knew that last part.  Interesting twist, and might also explain why they never even considered re-releasing the original cuts.

/"Not how I envisioned it", my ass
//There were a lot of things you "never envisioned" about the movies, George
///Slashies come in threes
 
2021-10-23 12:53:37 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Jim_Callahan: I mean, he was miscast and poorly directed, sure, but I don't know that anyone thought Christiansen "ruined Star Wars". Everyone other than Ewan McGregor gave a horrible performance in the prequels and we know from other films that most of them are good enough actors.

Ian McDiarmid was good as well, particularly once he came out as the gleefully evil Emperor.


I was gonna argue that his performance was absolutely inappropriate to the tone the movie was going for, but like ... yeah, okay, the completely different movie he appeared to think he was making was definitely way more fun than the prequels, so I'll give you that one.
 
2021-10-23 1:16:05 AM  

shoegaze99: puffy999: The fact that young people of today don't know any better isn't a good sign...

The only thing sadder than today's young adults still liking Jar-Jar is my generation turning into annoying, bitter farking curmudgeons complaining about young people liking what they don't like, just like the grumpy old assholes we hated when we were young.

I'd rather deal with dozens of kids strolling across my lawn than yet another aging, out of touch shiathead griping because younger people like something he or she doesn't like. At least those kids on my lawn are still alive inside.


The character of Jarjar should be tied to a star destroyer's bumper and dragged through the galaxy.

The amount of shiat the voice actor got though? Uncalled for.
 
2021-10-23 1:20:32 AM  
Hayden Christensen is a good actor, and he's going to farking slay it in the upcoming Kenobi and Ahsoka series.  One of the most baffling aspects of the Prequels is that Lucas apparently insisted that he deliver his lines in... that manner, while Hayden wanted to go more naturalistic.
 
2021-10-23 1:35:08 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Gordon Bennett: Jim_Callahan: I mean, he was miscast and poorly directed, sure, but I don't know that anyone thought Christiansen "ruined Star Wars". Everyone other than Ewan McGregor gave a horrible performance in the prequels and we know from other films that most of them are good enough actors.

Ian McDiarmid was good as well, particularly once he came out as the gleefully evil Emperor.

I was gonna argue that his performance was absolutely inappropriate to the tone the movie was going for, but like ... yeah, okay, the completely different movie he appeared to think he was making was definitely way more fun than the prequels, so I'll give you that one.


And I always assumed the opposite was true - McDiarmid knew exactly what he was doing every momen the camera was rolling, and knew exactly what the end result would be.

Lucas is known for only being able to give two directorial notes - "faster" and "more intense." It seemed like after two or three takes like that, McDiarmid finally said "oh, you want MORE intense? I got somethin' for ya" and gave us Episode III.
 
2021-10-23 1:38:28 AM  
I've seen him act in other things, Portman CAN act if she feels like it.

Lucas was the problem in the prequels. He started to love the smell of his own farts and no one around him had the balls to tell him they stank.

You can almost hear him off camera telling them to be stiffer and more wooden.
 
2021-10-23 1:46:09 AM  

BunkyBrewman: alechemist: No Lucas without his wife telling him no ruined star wars.

I don't know this story.  And speaking for the group, please... tell us more


How do you not know the story?
 
2021-10-23 2:20:35 AM  

Socrofece: Hayden Christensen is a good actor, and he's going to farking slay it in the upcoming Kenobi and Ahsoka series.  One of the most baffling aspects of the Prequels is that Lucas apparently insisted that he deliver his lines in... that manner, while Hayden wanted to go more naturalistic.


He's an ok actor. The prequels did him wrong, but let's not get carried away here.

One of his better performances was in "Shattered Glass."   But if you watch that film, everyone else in the cast runs circles around him acting wise.
 
2021-10-23 4:13:19 AM  
Episode X was my favorite
 
2021-10-23 6:01:26 AM  

Socrofece: it's no different than some kid in 1984 thinking that Raiders of the Lost Ark and Ghostbusters were the best movies of all time, while the adults dismissed both of them as disposable commercial trash.


huh? my father loved both those movies and is pretty close to the embodiment of NPR.
 
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