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(Slate)   Today's Slatesplanation: No, people aren't really suffering from "smartphone pinkie"   (slate.com) divider line
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2021-10-22 7:37:10 PM  
Never heard of it.  Is it the callus from where the phone charging port rests on the side of the pinky finger?
 
2021-10-22 7:40:37 PM  
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2021-10-22 7:43:48 PM  
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2021-10-22 7:47:55 PM  

NM Volunteer: Never heard of it.  Is it the callus from where the phone charging port rests on the side of the pinky finger?


Buddy, if your hands are so dainty your phone gives you calluses then it is time to go outside, or like, rub a broomstick or something.
 
2021-10-22 7:49:01 PM  
Is p0rnhub wrist a thing?
 
TWX
2021-10-22 7:53:35 PM  
Didn't Dave Barry write about an attempt at sexual congress with his wife after his hand had permanently cramped into a computer mouse shape?

If I remember right he was rebuffed when he accidentally double-clicked her nipple.
 
2021-10-22 7:54:44 PM  
Omg it's bad y'all....
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2021-10-22 7:55:58 PM  
So I got a Samsung S21 Ultra, which was meaningfully bigger than my prior phone.  I started holding it sort of like in the picture, but with my thumb along the bottom of the screen 90 degrees to the rest of my hand.  Within two months, I'd developed a problem with the joint in the base of my thumb bad enough I had to start wearing a brace.  The ortho told me to stop holding my phone that way, and the joint issue resolved.   So this is plausible to me.
 
2021-10-22 8:00:57 PM  

Warthog: So I got a Samsung S21 Ultra, which was meaningfully bigger than my prior phone.  I started holding it sort of like in the picture, but with my thumb along the bottom of the screen 90 degrees to the rest of my hand.  Within two months, I'd developed a problem with the joint in the base of my thumb bad enough I had to start wearing a brace.  The ortho told me to stop holding my phone that way, and the joint issue resolved.   So this is plausible to me.


This position:

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2021-10-22 8:07:20 PM  
I did not read the article but I can tell you that I had to make a very conscious effort to stop holding my large sized phone with my pinky. It was getting a slightly painful callous and it was deformity my pinkie. This did not happen until I switched to the larger phone.
 
2021-10-22 8:08:39 PM  
However, the "Forest Whitaker eye" that Slate articles give me is very real
 
2021-10-22 8:08:56 PM  
Seems plausible to me too. I developed swollen joints in three fingers of my left hand shortly after covid started. I certainly assume it must be because I started using my cell phone a lot more because I was stuck at home all the time.
 
2021-10-22 8:10:46 PM  

FloriduhGuy: I did not read the article but I can tell you that I had to make a very conscious effort to stop holding my large sized phone with my pinky. It was getting a slightly painful callous and it was deformity my pinkie. This did not happen until I switched to the larger phone.


So I'm not the only one.  That's the problem with phones, they are getting larger and heavier.
 
2021-10-22 8:15:58 PM  
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2021-10-22 8:31:23 PM  
Stinky pinky is unrelated
 
2021-10-22 8:41:54 PM  
Actually I have an
Indention in my pinky; from my cellphone.
I'd post it but my ink would doxx me
 
2021-10-22 8:42:18 PM  

Warthog: Warthog: So I got a Samsung S21 Ultra, which was meaningfully bigger than my prior phone.  I started holding it sort of like in the picture, but with my thumb along the bottom of the screen 90 degrees to the rest of my hand.  Within two months, I'd developed a problem with the joint in the base of my thumb bad enough I had to start wearing a brace.  The ortho told me to stop holding my phone that way, and the joint issue resolved.   So this is plausible to me.

This position:

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Led to problems with this joint:

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Seems like a very uncomfortable way to hold a phone.
 
2021-10-22 8:47:09 PM  

Warthog: So I got a Samsung S21 Ultra, which was meaningfully bigger than my prior phone.  I started holding it sort of like in the picture, but with my thumb along the bottom of the screen 90 degrees to the rest of my hand.  Within two months, I'd developed a problem with the joint in the base of my thumb bad enough I had to start wearing a brace.  The ortho told me to stop holding my phone that way, and the joint issue resolved.   So this is plausible to me.


What a load on Republican thinking bull crap!

It's clearly the fault of someone else.

Personally I blame Steve Jobs. He figured out a way to sucker you all into buying fruity palm pilots that rot your humanity and force you to prove your worth by the broken screens you present to the world.
 
2021-10-22 9:07:57 PM  
My pinky is safe; I set my phone down to use it.  My carpal tunnel is so bad that I drop stuff all the time. And phones are expensive.

The shattered coffee cups are bad enough, but at least they aren't $800.
 
2021-10-22 9:10:37 PM  
Yep. Sorry Slate, you don't get to speak for me. Will I require surgery to fix my messed up pinkie? Probably not. Am I in constant discomfort when I hold my phone? You bet. I say this as somebody with an inhuman pain tolerance - yesterday I stepped on a 2" nail with my bare foot, which punctured at least 1/2", which I've chosen to ignore. I wish I could say the same about my pinkie finger vs my cellphone
 
TWX
2021-10-22 9:16:08 PM  
"Riff's got Nintendo Thumb!"

/probably not obscure
 
TWX
2021-10-22 9:17:40 PM  
The most comfortable smartphone was the T-Mobile G1, which was originally called the HTC Dream.

It slid open to reveal a keyboard and had a tiny trackball.  It had a small screen but without a keyboard in front of it that screen was just fine to use in landscape mode.
 
2021-10-22 9:31:43 PM  
I have opposable thumbs
 
2021-10-22 9:58:06 PM  
Who the hell even holds a phone like tha...

*looks down

Well shiat.
 
2021-10-22 10:20:18 PM  
I have had a sore set of joints from holding my phone up with my pinkie.

I have to adjust my grip regularly while I read fark and the Atlantic.

/Fark has lots of links and threads to read and some threads are long
//The Atlantic has stupidly long articles. Those farkers must be paid by the word.
 
2021-10-22 10:31:57 PM  
I've had tendonitis for decades, and I do find that the more I use my pinkie as a ledge the more aggravated it gets. Mostly I feel the mild pain in my wrist, but it's the numbness that annoys me most.
 
2021-10-22 11:10:54 PM  

NM Volunteer: Never heard of it.  Is it the callus from where the phone charging port rests on the side of the pinky finger?


Yep. I don't get a callus, but my finger will hurt if I've been using it too long.

In other words, subby is a moron. Because yes, people DO have an issue. I'm one of them.

Another one I've noticed is that my left thumb is all farked up from scrolling while holding the phone with one hand. It will hurt like a motherfarker, but unfortunately, it's not quite as bad as the other thumb, which I can pop back into place about once a day from using a trackball mouse. If my left thumb was a little worse off, I might be able to pop that one into place, but instead, it just hurts sometimes, and stretching, flexing, and rubbing it doesn't help. Popping the other thumb into place makes it quit hurting for the rest of the day, OTOH.
 
2021-10-22 11:21:28 PM  

Warthog: So I got a Samsung S21 Ultra, which was meaningfully bigger than my prior phone.  I started holding it sort of like in the picture, but with my thumb along the bottom of the screen 90 degrees to the rest of my hand.  Within two months, I'd developed a problem with the joint in the base of my thumb bad enough I had to start wearing a brace.  The ortho told me to stop holding my phone that way, and the joint issue resolved.   So this is plausible to me.


Sorry, according to subby, you are apparently 100% wrong.

But I know of what you speak, I have an issue with my thumb from scrolling while holding the phone with one hand, and I hold it like in the picture, and my pinkie hurts, too.

I'm getting really tired of smart mouth motherfarkers on here reading a single article, and then telling us we're all full of shiat, even though we have the actual symptoms these things are describing.
 
2021-10-22 11:33:38 PM  

Warthog: Warthog: So I got a Samsung S21 Ultra, which was meaningfully bigger than my prior phone.  I started holding it sort of like in the picture, but with my thumb along the bottom of the screen 90 degrees to the rest of my hand.  Within two months, I'd developed a problem with the joint in the base of my thumb bad enough I had to start wearing a brace.  The ortho told me to stop holding my phone that way, and the joint issue resolved.   So this is plausible to me.

This position:

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Led to problems with this joint:

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You've circled the STT joint.

It's more likely the pain is from the basilar joint of the thumb (the CMC joint), judging from the phone-holding posture. That would be the joint distal to the circled one.

As for the actual article, phone pinkie could be several things:
- painful callus from prolonged pressure
- pain from arthritis of the DIP or less commonly the PIP joint
- pain from trigger finger, as described in the article
- compression of the radial digital nerve of the pinky This is not ulnar neuropathy per se, but the numbness/tingling is caused by direct pressure on the teeny, tiny, sensory nerve on the radial (i.e. the side facing the thumb) side of the pinky responsible for sensation on that longitudinal half of the digit. If I wanted to be a dick about it, I could point out that it's a terminal branch of the ulnar nerve, but distal to Guyon's canal we refer to the individual branches, just like we don't think of the arteries in the leg or foot as terminal branches of the aorta.
 
2021-10-22 11:40:42 PM  
Dangit, forgot one.

I personally have had pain and cramping of the third palmar interosseous from prolonged holding of a tablet. This is the muscle that adducts the small finger against the ring finger. It was definitely not trigger finger, and was reproduced with the intrinsic tightness test and resisted adduction of the digit, so piss off internet hand surgeons.

Coincidentally, mine was caused by reading The Atlantic too.
 
2021-10-22 11:46:02 PM  
"And while wrist pain can be a side effect of too much phone use, it's not related to the position of the pinkie, says Gluck. Instead, wrist pain happens "because the tendons that connect to the thumb can become inflamed at the wrist," according to a post on the Ventura Orthopedics website."

Argh, that's DeQuervain's, and has feck all to do with the pinky, or neuropathy.

*stomps away*
 
2021-10-23 12:52:49 AM  
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2021-10-23 1:35:20 AM  

NM Volunteer: FloriduhGuy: I did not read the article but I can tell you that I had to make a very conscious effort to stop holding my large sized phone with my pinky. It was getting a slightly painful callous and it was deformity my pinkie. This did not happen until I switched to the larger phone.

So I'm not the only one.  That's the problem with phones, they are getting larger and heavier.


I don't think it's the weight as much as the size of the area you're stretching your hand to support, if that makes sense. What used to be something that you could hold in one palm has become so big that you extend that pinky like a shelf and lay it on there, but I really think that's it more than the weight.
 
2021-10-23 11:13:08 AM  
CSB

I used to play clarinet and the instrument just hangs on your left thumb. Your right hand is totally free.

My left thumb and wrist were disgustingly flexible. I could easily lay my thumb almost flat along my forearm, and it's still more flexible than my right thumb. But works just fine despite holding far more than an iPhone...
 
2021-10-23 11:25:24 AM  

Parthenogenetic: Dangit, forgot one.

I personally have had pain and cramping of the third palmar interosseous from prolonged holding of a tablet. This is the muscle that adducts the small finger against the ring finger. It was definitely not trigger finger, and was reproduced with the intrinsic tightness test and resisted adduction of the digit, so piss off internet hand surgeons.

Coincidentally, mine was caused by reading The Atlantic too.


How much should it cost to "fix" my pinkie. Or at least make it straight. The tendon was shredded in a freak accident about 14 years ago.

/Paying out of pocket
//No I wasn't masturbating
///Three fingers mostly still work
 
2021-10-23 6:49:18 PM  

Bertuccio: CSB

I used to play clarinet and the instrument just hangs on your left thumb. Your right hand is totally free.

My left thumb and wrist were disgustingly flexible. I could easily lay my thumb almost flat along my forearm, and it's still more flexible than my right thumb. But works just fine despite holding far more than an iPhone...


How the f'k do you play a clarinet with the thumb-rest on your left thumb? Aren't the keys all in the wrong place? I mean, it probably sounds the same when I'm drunk, the few times I've fallen into a water fountain during a parade, but on those rare occasions when neither of those are happening?
 
2021-10-23 8:47:49 PM  

Prof. Frink: Bertuccio: CSB

I used to play clarinet and the instrument just hangs on your left thumb. Your right hand is totally free.

My left thumb and wrist were disgustingly flexible. I could easily lay my thumb almost flat along my forearm, and it's still more flexible than my right thumb. But works just fine despite holding far more than an iPhone...

How the f'k do you play a clarinet with the thumb-rest on your left thumb? Aren't the keys all in the wrong place? I mean, it probably sounds the same when I'm drunk, the few times I've fallen into a water fountain during a parade, but on those rare occasions when neither of those are happening?


Uuuhh. Ctrl+H left right....

Apparently I'm an idiot.

I mean.  I have a left handed clarinet.    That's it!
 
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