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2021-10-22 10:32:56 AM  
Aww man, the young ones are my favorite because they still cry while they dance at that age.
 
2021-10-22 10:45:02 AM  
Unemployment in Killeen edges up to 145%
 
2021-10-22 10:45:09 AM  
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2021-10-22 10:48:32 AM  
In Texas, adults aren't really adults!
 
2021-10-22 10:50:11 AM  
Now how are they gonna afford guns?
 
2021-10-22 10:53:04 AM  
Just more telling women what they're permitted to do in the great freedom loving state of Texas
 
2021-10-22 11:02:48 AM  
But, don't go messin' with my sodeepop.
 
2021-10-22 11:04:31 AM  

question_dj: In Texas, adults aren't really adults!


Not the female ones at least.
 
2021-10-22 11:05:17 AM  
Guns okay
Abortion not okay
Vaccines not okay
21 year old lap dance... ok
20 year old lap dance not ok
Voting ok if white, if black or Latino not ok

Texas, bbq beans, bullets and bullshiat
 
2021-10-22 11:08:43 AM  
Senate Bill 315 redefined 18- to 20-year-olds as children.

If the intent here is to declare them legal minors, then that's going to open a huge can of worms.

All prior crimes committed by that age group could be overturned on the grounds that sentencing was applied using incorrect statutes, and also all records would have to be expunged or sealed.

I'm sure there are a zillion other unintended consequences I'm not even thinking about, too..

Farking Texas under Perry and Abbott will be regarded as the worst Texas for generations.
 
2021-10-22 11:09:30 AM  
How exactly is it legal to tell an adult where they can work?

For a bonus, I bet Texas is at-will employment for extra freedumbs.
 
2021-10-22 11:10:14 AM  

markie_farkie: Senate Bill 315 redefined 18- to 20-year-olds as children.

If the intent here is to declare them legal minors, then that's going to open a huge can of worms.

All prior crimes committed by that age group could be overturned on the grounds that sentencing was applied using incorrect statutes, and also all records would have to be expunged or sealed.

I'm sure there are a zillion other unintended consequences I'm not even thinking about, too..

Farking Texas under Perry and Abbott will be regarded as the worst Texas for generations.


Difficulty level: we have no idea who's going to follow them.
 
2021-10-22 11:11:49 AM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: But, don't go messin' with my sodeepop.


I think you mean "coke."  Even if you want a Dr Pepper.
 
2021-10-22 11:14:34 AM  

markie_farkie: Senate Bill 315 redefined 18- to 20-year-olds as children.

If the intent here is to declare them legal minors, then that's going to open a huge can of worms.

All prior crimes committed by that age group could be overturned on the grounds that sentencing was applied using incorrect statutes, and also all records would have to be expunged or sealed.

I'm sure there are a zillion other unintended consequences I'm not even thinking about, too..

Farking Texas under Perry and Abbott will be regarded as the worst Texas for generations.


Did that happen when the drinking age was changed?
 
2021-10-22 11:16:26 AM  

markie_farkie: Senate Bill 315 redefined 18- to 20-year-olds as children.

If the intent here is to declare them legal minors, then that's going to open a huge can of worms.

All prior crimes committed by that age group could be overturned on the grounds that sentencing was applied using incorrect statutes, and also all records would have to be expunged or sealed.

I'm sure there are a zillion other unintended consequences I'm not even thinking about, too..

Farking Texas under Perry and Abbott will be regarded as the worst Texas for generations.


Hmmm... no more 18-20 y/o military recruits from Texas.
 
2021-10-22 11:17:55 AM  
The kids will have to figure out another way to pay for school.
 
2021-10-22 11:21:12 AM  
This law does seem to have some issues, but something doesn't sit right with ReasonTM appearing to take what resembles a reasonable position.

Hmmmm.....

FTA:

But he said "the Court does not find that Plaintiffs have met their burden of showing that S.B. 315 is not rationally related to the government's legitimate interest in curbing human trafficking."

So we get to the very end of the article before we get our first glimpse of why such a law was enacted. We can debate the merits of the law in achieving its stated objective, but I'll rest a little easier now knowing that ReasonTM completely ignored the underlying cause, as is their way.
 
2021-10-22 11:21:43 AM  
So... all those marriages of folks between 18 and 21...
 
2021-10-22 11:23:00 AM  

Sin'sHero: The kids will have to figure out another way to pay for school.


"school" = cocaine.
 
2021-10-22 11:26:01 AM  

Myrdinn: So... all those marriages of folks between 18 and 21...


Church approved sex trafficking is okie dokie!

Do they say okie dokie in TX, or is that an Oklahoma thing?  Texy wexy?
 
2021-10-22 11:37:58 AM  

Ker_Thwap: Church approved sex trafficking is okie dokie!

Do they say okie dokie in TX, or is that an Oklahoma thing? Texy wexy?


I think it is just a nonverbal nod and wink.
 
2021-10-22 11:49:21 AM  

markie_farkie: Senate Bill 315 redefined 18- to 20-year-olds as children.

If the intent here is to declare them legal minors, then that's going to open a huge can of worms.

All prior crimes committed by that age group could be overturned on the grounds that sentencing was applied using incorrect statutes, and also all records would have to be expunged or sealed.

I'm sure there are a zillion other unintended consequences I'm not even thinking about, too..

Farking Texas under Perry and Abbott will be regarded as the worst Texas for generations.


I'm adding "minors can't vote, or their parents can be their proxy."

And we know which way BeerBro and OfTurtle will go, since the TX Supreme Court will permit it.
 
2021-10-22 11:55:26 AM  
If only these young girls could have tuition free community College to go to since they're not allowed to dance anymore....
 
2021-10-22 11:59:40 AM  

markie_farkie: Senate Bill 315 redefined 18- to 20-year-olds as children.

If the intent here is to declare them legal minors, then that's going to open a huge can of worms.

All prior crimes committed by that age group could be overturned on the grounds that sentencing was applied using incorrect statutes, and also all records would have to be expunged or sealed.

I'm sure there are a zillion other unintended consequences I'm not even thinking about, too..

Farking Texas under Perry and Abbott will be regarded as the worst Texas for generations.



I highly doubt that.  You can already try people under 18 as adults and the 21 drinking age has treated 19 year olds as children for decades and it hasn't changed the fact that 19 year olds are charged as adults.

You are allowed to use one definition of adult under one statute and define it as something else in another.
 
2021-10-22 12:01:49 PM  

GardenWeasel: markie_farkie: Senate Bill 315 redefined 18- to 20-year-olds as children.

If the intent here is to declare them legal minors, then that's going to open a huge can of worms.

All prior crimes committed by that age group could be overturned on the grounds that sentencing was applied using incorrect statutes, and also all records would have to be expunged or sealed.

I'm sure there are a zillion other unintended consequences I'm not even thinking about, too..

Farking Texas under Perry and Abbott will be regarded as the worst Texas for generations.

Hmmm... no more 18-20 y/o military recruits from Texas.


Or college student loans. Not that anyone in Texas is graduating anything higher than 8th grade.
 
2021-10-22 12:08:33 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Sin'sHero: The kids will have to figure out another way to pay for school.

"school" = cocaine.


I actually knew a stripper that worked her way through college(SMU) and quit after she graduated and got a job. She was back to stripping 6 months later because she made so much more money stripping.
 
2021-10-22 12:09:38 PM  
With the new electoral map, Texas lawmakers will be entertaining us for years to come!
 
2021-10-22 12:16:29 PM  

Rev.K: This law does seem to have some issues, but something doesn't sit right with ReasonTM appearing to take what resembles a reasonable position.


The author is ENB, she's been an advocate for sex workers and was one   herself at one time. She's very much pro-legalization and body autonomy.

And yes, this is pandering and a "think of the children" play with huge legal consequences.

You can go blow-up foreigners at 17, but can't use what god gave you for fast cash.

/Honestly I'm good increasing enlistment age to 21 for the military. Brains aren't developed for it and the lack of maturity is huge. 

Increase retention. Decrease discipline issues. Increase education incentives.

Plus this shouldn't be a decision for a HS junior.

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2021-10-22 12:19:47 PM  

thehobbes: Rev.K: This law does seem to have some issues, but something doesn't sit right with ReasonTM appearing to take what resembles a reasonable position.

The author is ENB, she's been an advocate for sex workers and was one   herself at one time. She's very much pro-legalization and body autonomy.

And yes, this is pandering and a "think of the children" play with huge legal consequences.

You can go blow-up foreigners at 17, but can't use what god gave you for fast cash.

/Honestly I'm good increasing enlistment age to 21 for the military. Brains aren't developed for it and the lack of maturity is huge. 

Increase retention. Decrease discipline issues. Increase education incentives.

Plus this shouldn't be a decision for a HS junior.

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There's no higher duty in Texas than dying for an oil company
 
2021-10-22 12:24:49 PM  

west.la.lawyer: Guns okay
Abortion not okay
Vaccines not okay
21 year old lap dance... ok
20 year old lap dance not ok
Voting ok if white, if black or Latino not ok

Texas, bbq beans, bullets and bullshiat


And heaven help you if you want to buy liquor after 9 pm!

They're all about "fReEdUmS" and "liberty" but they're very particular about who gets to exercise freedom and how.

I mean, as far as this specifically, I don't know how I feel about it. As long as the women involved are safe. (And they probably aren't, at least not in Texas.)
 
2021-10-22 12:28:55 PM  
Be curious if that will include camming sites.  Not that I suspect there are many incorporated in Texas (certainly after this), be interesting to see if they try charging a Las Vegas or Amsterdam operation for soliciting Texas 19 years olds under this.
 
2021-10-22 12:39:23 PM  

whither_apophis: thehobbes: Rev.K: This law does seem to have some issues, but something doesn't sit right with ReasonTM appearing to take what resembles a reasonable position.

The author is ENB, she's been an advocate for sex workers and was one   herself at one time. She's very much pro-legalization and body autonomy.

And yes, this is pandering and a "think of the children" play with huge legal consequences.

You can go blow-up foreigners at 17, but can't use what god gave you for fast cash.

/Honestly I'm good increasing enlistment age to 21 for the military. Brains aren't developed for it and the lack of maturity is huge. 

Increase retention. Decrease discipline issues. Increase education incentives.

Plus this shouldn't be a decision for a HS junior.

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There's no higher duty in Texas than dying for an oil company


What about dying for the electric company?
 
2021-10-22 12:42:03 PM  
I'm surprised Abbottoir isn't banning the entire 'adult entertainment' industry.
 
2021-10-22 12:42:47 PM  

whither_apophis: There's no higher duty in Texas than dying for an oil company



Challenge accepted.
What if I die drunk, wearing full cowboy cosplay, riding a bucking bull, carrying an AR-15 all to stick it to the libs?
 
2021-10-22 12:50:46 PM  

markie_farkie: Senate Bill 315 redefined 18- to 20-year-olds as children.

If the intent here is to declare them legal minors, then that's going to open a huge can of worms.

All prior crimes committed by that age group could be overturned on the grounds that sentencing was applied using incorrect statutes, and also all records would have to be expunged or sealed.

I'm sure there are a zillion other unintended consequences I'm not even thinking about, too..

Farking Texas under Perry and Abbott will be regarded as the worst Texas for generations.


This prevents 18 year old women from performing sex work, but does it prevent 18 year old men from consuming the same product?  Can a 19 year old man see a boob in a club?  Buy a Hustler?

What consequence does this have for Mindgeek?  Do they have to set their minimum verified performer age at 21 site-wide now because of Texas?

I don't for a second think of any of this as an "unintentional consequence" though.
 
2021-10-22 12:55:25 PM  
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2021-10-22 12:56:41 PM  
So, what about a 18 yo working at a gas station that has a condom machine in the bathroom that requires occasional restocking.
 
2021-10-22 1:10:39 PM  
Maybe this could be a good thing, then these women can go to school to better themselves so they won't have to take this route. Just saying.
 
2021-10-22 1:13:04 PM  

TheSubjunctive: Be curious if that will include camming sites.  Not that I suspect there are many incorporated in Texas (certainly after this), be interesting to see if they try charging a Las Vegas or Amsterdam operation for soliciting Texas 19 years olds under this.


Texas bounty!
 
2021-10-22 1:17:26 PM  
The Texiban strikes again.
 
2021-10-22 1:22:36 PM  

Gubbo: What about dying for the electric company?


HEY YOU GUUUUUUUUUUUUYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSS!​!!​!
 
2021-10-22 1:31:49 PM  
This reminds me of the Mark Ecko v NYC lawsuit about 18-20 year olds not being able to buy paint because they might do something illegal with it. The Federal court threw out the law, it was appealed and the city lost again.

This will be tried as a First Amendment case and the law should be thrown out. However, it's Texas, so who knows.
 
2021-10-22 1:33:41 PM  
The party of limited government and personal responsibility at work
 
2021-10-22 1:37:30 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: west.la.lawyer: Guns okay
Abortion not okay
Vaccines not okay
21 year old lap dance... ok
20 year old lap dance not ok
Voting ok if white, if black or Latino not ok

Texas, bbq beans, bullets and bullshiat

And heaven help you if you want to buy liquor after 9 pm!

They're all about "fReEdUmS" and "liberty" but they're very particular about who gets to exercise freedom and how.

I mean, as far as this specifically, I don't know how I feel about it. As long as the women involved are safe. (And they probably aren't, at least not in Texas.)


yeah, not saying I disagree with the rule.  Just saying it rings hollow and brittle coming from insaneistan
 
2021-10-22 1:38:44 PM  
Kevin Richardson, a TEA member who owns five adult cabarets, told the court he had to lay off more than 700 people due to the new law.


farkin HOW?  That's 140 employees per location.  That's an INSANE number of employees for a "cabaret."

I found one business listing for Boom Boob Cabaret with an address to a pretty big unmarked building.  I might expect 140 employees total, but 140 employees under the age of 21?  Are they 24 hours?

This guy is the big wig of Jaguars of Texas and since I actually know what Jaguars is that probably means he's one of the biggest names in Texas tit bars.

/Fun fact: Backstreet Boy Kevin Richardson was in a production of Cabaret
 
2021-10-22 1:39:13 PM  

SpectroBoy: whither_apophis: There's no higher duty in Texas than dying for an oil company


Challenge accepted.
What if I die drunk, wearing full cowboy cosplay, riding a bucking bull, carrying an AR-15 all to stick it to the libs?


Are we talking assless chaps?
 
2021-10-22 1:40:04 PM  
Sounds like it's time to build a tidday bar in Marietta OK or Starks LA, and stock it with 18-20 year olds.

"Our girls are illegal in Texas!"
 
2021-10-22 1:42:36 PM  
What about Hooters?  Tilted Kilt?

Are those NOT "sexually oriented commercial activities?"  Most men I know who go to Hooters don't go for the wings.

Where do they draw the line?
 
2021-10-22 1:50:49 PM  

bughunter: What about Hooters?  Tilted Kilt?

Are those NOT "sexually oriented commercial activities?"  Most men I know who go to Hooters don't go for the wings.

Where do they draw the line?


Marriage and assigning their ability to vote to the husband.
Drawing the line on the OTHER side of that.
 
2021-10-22 2:05:05 PM  

Demetrius: SpectroBoy: whither_apophis: There's no higher duty in Texas than dying for an oil company


Challenge accepted.
What if I die drunk, wearing full cowboy cosplay, riding a bucking bull, carrying an AR-15 all to stick it to the libs?

Are we talking assless chaps?


Natch.
 
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