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(EurekAlert)   American gun violence 30% more American during the pandemic   (eurekalert.org) divider line
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2021-10-22 2:07:45 PM  
Was this because we took away guns and there were fewer guns so society got less polite?

Or are there more guns and society is now 30% more polite and I was just using the wrong definition of polite.
 
2021-10-22 2:09:19 PM  
That pesky virus is hard to hit with an AR-15...there's gonna be some collateral damage.
 
2021-10-22 2:09:27 PM  
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2021-10-22 2:11:18 PM  

FleshMonkey: Was this because we took away guns and there were fewer guns so society got less polite?

Or are there more guns and society is now 30% more polite and I was just using the wrong definition of polite.


An armed society is a polite society.
Not necessarily a peaceful or safe society.
 
2021-10-22 2:11:54 PM  
It's almost like being isolated and feeling helpless is not great for humans....

/ this whole 19 months should be set to Hell's Picture Scroll from the movie Ran.
 
2021-10-22 2:12:03 PM  
It's almost as if Trump, the Coronavirus, and all of the politics that went with it put the country's polarization into overdrive, caused people's tensions and anxieties to flare dramatically, and brought about behaviors that reflect a more hostile, anxious, angry population. <shrug>
 
2021-10-22 2:12:50 PM  
I chalk it up to stress. Nobody's having a good time now. The lockdown was difficult for those with functional families, for the dysfunctional it must have been damn near impossible. Throw a few loaded guns into the mix and this is no surprise.
 
2021-10-22 2:15:06 PM  
I chalk it up to 30 years of sedition spread by the right wing hate machine.
 
2021-10-22 2:16:52 PM  
jesus christ why cant these assholes just numb themselves with drugs like a responsible person? if you have to use a gun, use it on yourself.
 
2021-10-22 2:17:23 PM  

akallen404: FleshMonkey: Was this because we took away guns and there were fewer guns so society got less polite?

Or are there more guns and society is now 30% more polite and I was just using the wrong definition of polite.

An armed society is a polite society.
Not necessarily a peaceful or safe society.


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2021-10-22 2:17:31 PM  
It's gotten so bad, even Alec Baldwin is killing people.
 
2021-10-22 2:20:42 PM  

akallen404: FleshMonkey: Was this because we took away guns and there were fewer guns so society got less polite?

Or are there more guns and society is now 30% more polite and I was just using the wrong definition of polite.

An armed society is a polite society.
Not necessarily a peaceful or safe society.


SORRY
 
2021-10-22 2:29:27 PM  
I was thinking that surely, what is happening is gun fatalities are up 30 percent, because with half the population sheltering at home, there has got to be fewer opportunities for actual shootings.  Nope, number of shootings went up 30 percent, and no word on the number of fatalities, but I bet it skyrocketed.   Normally, only around 10 percent of shooting victims die of their wounds, but this climbs dramatically in mass shootings, due in part to the weapons mass shooters tend to prefer, and because of the number of casualties, and the delay in getting to them, since the cops have to first take out the mass shooter and secure the scene before ambulance and fire crews can go in.  With Covid hitting hospitals, and over whelming ambulance crews for transport calls, you would expect the death to casualty rate to be around where it would be from mass shootings for all of these extra shootings on top of everything else.
 
2021-10-22 2:30:56 PM  
So that's how all the people that quit their jobs during the pandemic are making money. I was wondering!
 
2021-10-22 2:32:46 PM  

Johnny Bananapeel: I chalk it up to stress. Nobody's having a good time now. The lockdown was difficult for those with functional families, for the dysfunctional it must have been damn near impossible. Throw a few loaded guns into the mix and this is no surprise.


Yeah, my immediate assumption was domestic and self-harm.
 
2021-10-22 2:34:20 PM  
Well, if my favorite trumpanzee is any kind of example, it's that older, white dudes, with absolutely no reason, are feeling trapped and under attack.  This guy is completely secure in life, bills paid, comfy job, retirement ready, and just convinced that BLM and Antifa is going to bust down his door any moment.

He's probably the straightest arrow anyone could ever meet, regularly gives money, time, food to others, and yet, relies on FACEBOOK for news.

It's enraging.  Makes me wish shooting the desktop and phone would do some good.
 
2021-10-22 2:37:33 PM  
Why was Alaska the only state to experience a decrease in gun violence during the pandemic?
 
2021-10-22 2:38:52 PM  
Louisville be popping caps.
Lots of them.
Stay out of the west end after dark.
 
2021-10-22 2:39:12 PM  

akallen404: FleshMonkey: Was this because we took away guns and there were fewer guns so society got less polite?

Or are there more guns and society is now 30% more polite and I was just using the wrong definition of polite.

An armed society is a polite society.
Not necessarily a peaceful or safe society.


Watching the DC area videos of guys jumping out of cars a spraying bullets everywhere is pretty scary.  The primary reason: "dispute resolution".  Doesn't seem particularly polite, especially for all the innocent victims getting shot in the process.  Well maybe the it was polite of the courts to let some these shooters out on bond for previous gun and other violent charges over the objections of prosecutors.
 
2021-10-22 2:44:10 PM  
After the story about that woman in Florida blasting away at the people that stole the dogs she was selling I am not surprised. But if everyone shoots like her the trees and birds better watch out.
 
2021-10-22 2:47:17 PM  
Makes sense, sit at home with guns, get bored, get cranky, do some shooting.
 
2021-10-22 2:49:17 PM  

Johnny Bananapeel: I chalk it up to stress. Nobody's having a good time now. The lockdown was difficult for those with functional families, for the dysfunctional it must have been damn near impossible. Throw a few loaded guns into the mix and this is no surprise.


Hey, so maybe we should get rid of the guns?
 
2021-10-22 2:53:23 PM  

iheartscotch: It's almost like being isolated and feeling helpless is not great for humans....

/ this whole 19 months should be set to Hell's Picture Scroll from the movie Ran.


Then add guns...!

bedonkadonk: Why was Alaska the only state to experience a decrease in gun violence during the pandemic?


Because they're already used to isolation.

akallen404: An armed society is a polite society.


Not it's not.  It never has been.  Polite societies abhor violence as a means of solving problems.  Polite societies take other people's viewpoints into account before gunfire erupts into a hailstorm of bullets over whether naked people in bathrooms constitute a serious threat to society.
 
2021-10-22 2:59:50 PM  
Which is the fault of BLM and Defund the Police, according to my local PD.
 
2021-10-22 3:06:40 PM  
Tons of people went out and bought weapons out of panic and fear, few of them got training, and a lot of them were put under significant life stress while sitting around with said weapons on hand.

There are a lot of people who buy shiat they dont need for reasons they cant really explain for scenarios they're almost certainly never going to encounter and aren't trained for, and then get themselves into trouble.
 
2021-10-22 3:08:40 PM  
According to the researchers, added stress and worry, along with fear and uncertainty may have fueled an increase in gun sales.

I didn't buy any guns because I already own some, but you can bet your sweet ass that during the run up to the election I was making sure they were all cleaned, oiled, loaded and within arms reach just incase the neighbor a few houses down with his trump flag and front porch clothes drier decided to try something.
 
2021-10-22 3:16:27 PM  
You can tell a lot about someone by how they handle being told they can't do something they want to do.
 
2021-10-22 3:27:04 PM  

thealgorerhythm: It's gotten so bad, even Alec Baldwin is killing people.


Too soon.  The man is distraught.
 
2021-10-22 3:35:01 PM  

austerity101: Johnny Bananapeel: I chalk it up to stress. Nobody's having a good time now. The lockdown was difficult for those with functional families, for the dysfunctional it must have been damn near impossible. Throw a few loaded guns into the mix and this is no surprise.

Hey, so maybe we should get rid of the guns?


Feel free to get rid of yours. Good luck taking mine though.
 
2021-10-22 3:36:57 PM  

JustSayYo: Which is the fault of BLM and Defund the Police, according to my local PD.


They may be onto something...
 
2021-10-22 4:02:59 PM  

Karma Chameleon: jesus christ why cant these assholes just numb themselves with drugs like a responsible person? if you have to use a gun, use it on yourself.


If you had read the article you'd see that people are shooting themselves.
 
2021-10-22 4:03:33 PM  
Alternative Headline:

"Playful Roughhousing Up 30% During Fake COVID Pandemic"
 
2021-10-22 5:05:51 PM  
Gun violence and gun deaths always seem to correlate very strongly with two fundamental factors:

1. Gun sales & gun ownership rates.
2. Rates of Republicanism in your area.

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You tell me how many people in your state own guns and how many people in your state voted for Trump, and with that info I could get pretty close to calculating an exact gun violence rate.

Let's not look into that, though. That would be unconstitutional or some such.
 
2021-10-22 5:12:54 PM  
Its odd how they don't link to the study.
Probably because when you do dig around and find it, it shows while gun deaths go up radically during lockdown, actual gun crime/gun violence went down for a time.
The researchers apparently needed to conflate 'gun deaths' with 'gun violence' to make the surge in suicides related to the pandemic look like a violent crime wave in the streets instead.
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/Gee, not like there was a prefabricated agenda there or anything.
 
2021-10-22 5:13:45 PM  

RTOGUY: Karma Chameleon: jesus christ why cant these assholes just numb themselves with drugs like a responsible person? if you have to use a gun, use it on yourself.

If you had read the article you'd see that people are shooting themselves.


THIS
 
2021-10-22 6:02:42 PM  

Halfabee64: thealgorerhythm: It's gotten so bad, even Alec Baldwin is killing people.

Too soon.  The man is distraught.


But is the gun okay?
 
2021-10-22 6:23:03 PM  

A Cave Geek: iheartscotch: Not it's not.  It never has been.  Polite societies abhor violence as a means of solving problems.  Polite societies take other people's viewpoints into account before gunfire erupts into a hailstorm of bullets over whether naked people in bathrooms constitute a serious threat to society.


But we DO abhor violence as a means of solving problems. It's just that we celebrate violence as a means of preventing future ones. And we are, for the most part, very polite about all the murder and mayhem that goes on here considering that the viewpoints of the most violent members of our society seem to be the ones we give the most respect to.

I mean, as long as they're white and english speaking.
 
2021-10-22 7:14:21 PM  

Halfabee64: thealgorerhythm: It's gotten so bad, even Alec Baldwin is killing people.

Too soon.  The man is distraught.


Well, he seems distraught. But I hear that he's an actor.
 
2021-10-22 7:18:25 PM  
Suicide rates in the USA are double those in the UK, for example. Do you think that's cos life is twice as unbearable in the USA, or cos it's twice as easy to do yourself in?
 
2021-10-22 7:26:01 PM  

Lady J: Suicide rates in the USA are double those in the UK, for example. Do you think that's cos life is twice as unbearable in the USA, or cos it's twice as easy to do yourself in?


Unless you're talking per capita, I THINK there's more people here.

Let me check.

*runs*
 
2021-10-22 7:29:44 PM  

whidbey: Lady J: Suicide rates in the USA are double those in the UK, for example. Do you think that's cos life is twice as unbearable in the USA, or cos it's twice as easy to do yourself in?

Unless you're talking per capita, I THINK there's more people here.

Let me check.

*runs*


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2021-10-22 8:19:12 PM  

Lady J: Suicide rates in the USA are double those in the UK, for example. Do you think that's cos life is twice as unbearable in the USA, or cos it's twice as easy to do yourself in?


Um, yes?
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2021-10-23 3:48:40 AM  

zbtop: Tons of people went out and bought weapons out of panic and fear, few of them got training, and a lot of them were put under significant life stress while sitting around with said weapons on hand.

There are a lot of people who buy shiat they dont need for reasons they cant really explain for scenarios they're almost certainly never going to encounter and aren't trained for, and then get themselves into trouble.


While I fully support the 2nd Amendment, gun ownership is not for me because I don't need a gun accessible if/when I'm so pissed off that rational thought isn't in the equation.
 
2021-10-23 3:49:55 AM  

NotARocketScientist: You can tell a lot about someone by how they handle being told they can't do something they want to do.


How much they learned in kindergarten?
 
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