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2021-10-22 8:05:21 AM  
I'm just a yank,

But I always thought the queen/monarchy missed a moment to make themselves relevant again. With Brexit out there, from initial vote to years of failed negotiations, they could have spoken up and said 'this will make our country weaker and is being pushed by foreign enemies who want to see Great Britain weak'. Their position is largely ceremonial, but Brexit was about the ceremonial statement "we aren't part of Europe."

Instead, they kept their head down and mouth shut.

If a Queen can't advocate for the sovereignty or non-sovereignty of her country, what is the point of her?
 
2021-10-22 8:36:46 AM  

OceanVortex: I'm just a yank,

But I always thought the queen/monarchy missed a moment to make themselves relevant again. With Brexit out there, from initial vote to years of failed negotiations, they could have spoken up and said 'this will make our country weaker and is being pushed by foreign enemies who want to see Great Britain weak'. Their position is largely ceremonial, but Brexit was about the ceremonial statement "we aren't part of Europe."

Instead, they kept their head down and mouth shut.

If a Queen can't advocate for the sovereignty or non-sovereignty of her country, what is the point of her?


She can voice any displeasure to the Prime Minister but otherwise it's very frowned on for her to go public with it.
 
2021-10-22 9:55:51 AM  

Ken VeryBigLiar: OceanVortex: I'm just a yank,

But I always thought the queen/monarchy missed a moment to make themselves relevant again. With Brexit out there, from initial vote to years of failed negotiations, they could have spoken up and said 'this will make our country weaker and is being pushed by foreign enemies who want to see Great Britain weak'. Their position is largely ceremonial, but Brexit was about the ceremonial statement "we aren't part of Europe."

Instead, they kept their head down and mouth shut.

If a Queen can't advocate for the sovereignty or non-sovereignty of her country, what is the point of her?

She can voice any displeasure to the Prime Minister but otherwise it's very frowned on for her to go public with it.

Right, that is my point.  This was a once in a generation, major inflection point in the history of Britain.  The perfect opportunity to break the mold, go against what is frowned upon, and step up and say "this vote is so important I must speak out."  Of course it would be taboo, and that is the point - it would draw more attention to her words and possibly impact the direction of the country her bloodline has overseen for centuries.

If the ceremonial leader doesn't speak up at a time deciding whether the country should exist as a sovereign nation or not, then what is the point of having that leader?  At what point will her British subjects stop paying for her and her family to live in outrageous wealth for no reason at all other than tradition?
 
2021-10-22 10:37:57 AM  
And to be clear, my yank view on Brexit was it seems like a bad move that weakens the country.  Having the Queen stand up and say "being part of the EU makes us stronger" seems like an important thing, as she represents the concept of England.  And if the face of England says "we are stronger as a coalition than out in the wilderness by ourselves" I would imagine that would be powerful.

But, what do I know.  I'm just a Yank and it ain't like America had strong leadership during that 4 year period, so not like I can talk either.

Anyhoo, thanks for John Oliver and TaskMaster.  Carry on.
 
2021-10-22 2:25:02 PM  
Gotta suck to feel like you need to outlive your kids so you can pass the crown on to the grandson. You know, the good one.
 
2021-10-22 4:08:44 PM  

SBinRR: Gotta suck to feel like you need to outlive your kids so you can pass the crown on to the grandson. You know, the good one.


Willy supposely has turned into a real wanker too.  Just not as publicly as Chuck.
 
2021-10-22 4:15:05 PM  
I'm going to go play some AC: Valhalla now and smack me some Saxons.
 
2021-10-23 12:57:34 PM  
Should be Betty White, she is so old she starred on a show about being old 36 years ago.
 
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