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2021-10-22 3:21:00 AM  
Quirky ;)
 
2021-10-22 3:23:26 AM  
The quirky turd.
 
2021-10-22 3:24:23 AM  
Such a quirky place to hide!!
 
2021-10-22 3:24:32 AM  
I've got a type and she checks more than one box, but boy oh boy, she is ugly on the inside.
 
2021-10-22 3:25:42 AM  
Did she start to notice that everyone hates her now?

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2021-10-22 3:29:34 AM  

Alphax: Did she start to notice that everyone hates her now?

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That's the power of Big Quirky, folks.
 
2021-10-22 3:33:37 AM  

Alphax: Did she start to notice that everyone hates her now?

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The Soviets were not surprised that American leaders were for sale.

They were consistently astonished at what *cheap* whores they are.
 
2021-10-22 3:43:09 AM  
I don't understand these maneuverings. She obviously doesn't care about re-election, it's all about short-term cashing-in with this one.
 
2021-10-22 3:44:23 AM  

Alphax: Did she start to notice that everyone hates her now?

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This presumes that you believe the Green Party stands for what it stands for rather than just being a, potentially foreign, front to siphon votes away from Democrats.  She's being consistent otherwise.  Sell out before, sell out after.
 
2021-10-22 3:44:55 AM  

omg bbq: Alphax: Did she start to notice that everyone hates her now?

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That's the power of Big Quirky, folks.


Big quirky spending memes.
 
2021-10-22 3:45:44 AM  
"Until the average American realizes that capitalism damages her livelihood while augmenting the livelihoods of the wealthy, the Almighty Dollar will continue to rule", she wrote.

2002- The Arizona Republic printed this quote from her.
 
2021-10-22 3:47:33 AM  

Pugdaddyk: "Until the average American realizes that capitalism damages her livelihood while augmenting the livelihoods of the wealthy, the Almighty Dollar will continue to rule", she wrote.

2002- The Arizona Republic printed this quote from her.


You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain?
 
2021-10-22 3:47:33 AM  
One more I found...such a quirky little thing she is

In 2003, she protested Senator Joe Lieberman's unsuccessful 2004 presidential bid, telling the Hartford Courant, "He's a shame to Democrats. I don't even know why he's running. He seems to want to get Republicans voting for him - what kind of strategy is that?"
 
2021-10-22 3:54:01 AM  
One more thing I'll say. Sadly, I have a neighbor living directly below me who could pass as Ms. Quirks twin. It would be a real difficulty to tell them apart. I differentiate the two, but damn, every time I see the neighbor, I want to yell in her face....WTF are you doing to America? Then I realize it's me, not her, who has the problem.
 
2021-10-22 4:06:07 AM  
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2021-10-22 4:09:21 AM  

Summoner101: Pugdaddyk: "Until the average American realizes that capitalism damages her livelihood while augmenting the livelihoods of the wealthy, the Almighty Dollar will continue to rule", she wrote.

2002- The Arizona Republic printed this quote from her.

You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain?


Objection; assumes Sinema was ever a hero.

"Hero" is really hard to live up to. "Villain" is pretty easy.
 
2021-10-22 4:16:54 AM  
I'll believe it when she votes yea.
 
2021-10-22 4:17:23 AM  

emtwo: Summoner101: Pugdaddyk: "Until the average American realizes that capitalism damages her livelihood while augmenting the livelihoods of the wealthy, the Almighty Dollar will continue to rule", she wrote.

2002- The Arizona Republic printed this quote from her.

You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain?

Objection; assumes Sinema was ever a hero.

"Hero" is really hard to live up to. "Villain" is pretty easy.


Villain you have to put in work also or be lucky.

She is a greedy asshole that sold out long ago.
 
2021-10-22 4:24:30 AM  
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2021-10-22 4:26:37 AM  

erik-k: Alphax: Did she start to notice that everyone hates her now?

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The Soviets were not surprised that American leaders were for sale.

They were consistently astonished at what *cheap* whores they are.


This is what constantly blows me away.  In movies it's, "Well, they paid me millions to do it!  I couldn't turn it down!"  IRL it's far too often, "Yeah, I got a few thousand here and there.  Totally worth screwing everyone over."
 
2021-10-22 4:28:39 AM  

vrax: This is what constantly blows me away.  In movies it's, "Well, they paid me millions to do it!  I couldn't turn it down!"  IRL it's far too often, "Yeah, I got a few thousand here and there.  Totally worth screwing everyone over."


Which also seems to match with early Tom Clancy novels.
 
2021-10-22 4:32:18 AM  

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The bottom right misses the chance to say "The Senator Wears Pravda"
 
2021-10-22 4:37:50 AM  

Dr. DJ Duckhunt: emtwo: Summoner101: Pugdaddyk: "Until the average American realizes that capitalism damages her livelihood while augmenting the livelihoods of the wealthy, the Almighty Dollar will continue to rule", she wrote.

2002- The Arizona Republic printed this quote from her.

You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain?

Objection; assumes Sinema was ever a hero.

"Hero" is really hard to live up to. "Villain" is pretty easy.

Villain you have to put in work also or be lucky.

She is a greedy asshole that sold out long ago.


Very few villains are cartoon villains. The overwhelming majority are just greedy assholes that sold out long ago.
 
2021-10-22 4:42:17 AM  
You know given how this country's leadership has gone, I guess I'm curious if she's a pedophile and/or rapist?
 
2021-10-22 4:43:07 AM  

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The Senators wear Pravda
 
2021-10-22 4:44:52 AM  

puffy999: You know given how this country's leadership has gone, I guess I'm curious if she's a pedophile and/or rapist?


Just a hot, quirky teacher banging 14 year olds.
 
2021-10-22 4:48:53 AM  
I truly hate that c*nt.

She is a genuinely bad person. I want all of bad things to happen to her, and only to her.
 
2021-10-22 5:21:21 AM  
God, a little while ago I got this junk mailer from her (with footnote "produced at taxpayer expense"!!!) talking about how Biden asked her to take the lead on getting the infrastructure bill done (not the good one one.  The Infrastructure Investment & Jobs Act, which is the smaller one that passed the Senate but the House won't vote on).  In it, she touts all the reasons infrastructure bills are both necessary and good, and takes all kind of credit.

It makes me so goddamn angry.  I can't wait to vote for her primary opponent.

And then I got a push poll from her as well.  I made sure to give her "very unfavourable" and Kelly "very favourable", and man some of the questions, like one asking if Sinema saying something I don't remember the wording of but it was about getting the influence of big donors out of politics was a convincing reason to support her over her Republican challenger, when big donors are the only farking people she even talks to...  Good god, I hate this woman more than I've hated any Democratic politician since I became politically aware.  And the thing is if she wins her primary, I'm going to have to vote for her again because the AZ GOP has gone absolutely batshiat insane and they're going to put up some Big Lie insurrectionist who drops Q references into his stump speeches - AND THAT'LL BE THE MODERATE REPUB - and as bad as she is, that's even worse.  argh.
 
2021-10-22 5:29:18 AM  
That's the same Politico bought by Springer/Bild that just had an exec fired after the NYT media reporter Ben Smith reported that he abused and sexually harassed employees, right?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/18/bus​iness/media/julian-reichelt-axel-sprin​ger.html
 
2021-10-22 5:46:29 AM  
forget it this threds off the rails
 
2021-10-22 5:58:40 AM  

Wobambo: puffy999: You know given how this country's leadership has gone, I guess I'm curious if she's a pedophile and/or rapist?

Just a hot, quirky teacher banging 14 year olds.


she really, really does have the energy of the weird lady at work who you're pretty sure is screwing the UPS guy and comes back from lunch half-drunk two days a week
 
2021-10-22 6:03:07 AM  

Roastbeast Sammich: I don't understand these maneuverings. She obviously doesn't care about re-election, it's all about short-term cashing-in with this one.


Hmmm...

"[Democrats believe she will agree to the "mark to market" proposal to levy billionaires who don't pay taxes on their unrealized gains and a corporate minimum tax."

Either she doesn't understand what she's agreed to, or she's putting out feelers for additional contributions from wealthy donors to dissuade her.

Either way... quirky!

/Appendix: currently, capital gains taxes are only levied upon sale of the assets. MtM would tax wealth annually, at the current market value of the assets. This can be difficult for some assets with limited price information, e.g. infrequently traded stuff, collectibles, fine art. Arguments about practical implementation aside, her donors/concerned supporters/owners are NOT going to accept a wealth tax.
 
2021-10-22 6:37:02 AM  
Another "civil servant" lost to Citizens United. Sinema is in the Koch kash up to her 34d.
 
2021-10-22 6:46:52 AM  
I've just come to the conclusion the entire green party exists for no other reason than to syphon off Democratic votes.

And the only better way to scuttle any progress is to actually be elected as a Democrat.  So well done Ms. Sinema.
 
2021-10-22 6:48:40 AM  
I see Kap'n Kwirky finally decided to shut the fark up and get in line before her AZ poll numbers sank any lower.
 
2021-10-22 6:51:10 AM  

Parthenogenetic: Roastbeast Sammich: I don't understand these maneuverings. She obviously doesn't care about re-election, it's all about short-term cashing-in with this one.

Hmmm...

"[Democrats believe she will agree to the "mark to market" proposal to levy billionaires who don't pay taxes on their unrealized gains and a corporate minimum tax."

Either she doesn't understand what she's agreed to, or she's putting out feelers for additional contributions from wealthy donors to dissuade her.

Either way... quirky!

/Appendix: currently, capital gains taxes are only levied upon sale of the assets. MtM would tax wealth annually, at the current market value of the assets. This can be difficult for some assets with limited price information, e.g. infrequently traded stuff, collectibles, fine art. Arguments about practical implementation aside, her donors/concerned supporters/owners are NOT going to accept a wealth tax.


Got that right.
 
2021-10-22 7:12:43 AM  

Summoner101: Alphax: Did she start to notice that everyone hates her now?

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This presumes that you believe the Green Party stands for what it stands for rather than just being a, potentially foreign, front to siphon votes away from Democrats.  She's being consistent otherwise.  Sell out before, sell out after.


Just for the record, in most countries, the Green party is pretty much what it claimsto be.  In the US frombwhat I've seen, the Greens are at best feckless and unwitting pawns or malevolent quislings, as Stein showed herself to be.
 
2021-10-22 7:30:47 AM  

Parthenogenetic: Roastbeast Sammich: I don't understand these maneuverings. She obviously doesn't care about re-election, it's all about short-term cashing-in with this one.

Hmmm...

"[Democrats believe she will agree to the "mark to market" proposal to levy billionaires who don't pay taxes on their unrealized gains and a corporate minimum tax."

Either she doesn't understand what she's agreed to, or she's putting out feelers for additional contributions from wealthy donors to dissuade her.

Either way... quirky!

/Appendix: currently, capital gains taxes are only levied upon sale of the assets. MtM would tax wealth annually, at the current market value of the assets. This can be difficult for some assets with limited price information, e.g. infrequently traded stuff, collectibles, fine art. Arguments about practical implementation aside, her donors/concerned supporters/owners are NOT going to accept a wealth tax.


I think it's easy to value the expensive stuff. If someone takes a loan against it, that's the value. If they don't take a loan against it, they're not "profiting" at all.

Like trump. The banks have valued his stuff, tax him on that.

If you own a ton of shares, but just live off the dividends - why should the government tax you on the principle? Now, if you borrow against those shares, absolutely tax it.
 
2021-10-22 7:31:35 AM  

Mike_1962: Summoner101: Alphax: Did she start to notice that everyone hates her now?

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This presumes that you believe the Green Party stands for what it stands for rather than just being a, potentially foreign, front to siphon votes away from Democrats.  She's being consistent otherwise.  Sell out before, sell out after.

Just for the record, in most countries, the Green party is pretty much what it claimsto be.  In the US frombwhat I've seen, the Greens are at best feckless and unwitting pawns or malevolent quislings, as Stein showed herself to be.


I've posted this here on Fark before, but from years of membership and activism in the Green Parties both here in the UK and in Ireland, the Green Party in Europe overwhelmingly tends to closely adhere to the Green Party platform and principles, with the MP Caroline Lucas being a very good example.

However, in Ireland following the general election in 2007, the Green Party disastrously went into coalition entered into a coalition with Fianna Fáil - the latter party at that time being led and run by thoroughly corrupt charlatans, pathetic chancers, and venal amoral opportunists.

And the result was an exodus of party members and activists (self included) and a collapse of their support.

The Irish Greens are still struggling to regain the support that they squandered then, made all the more difficult that other parties like Sinn Féin have managed to incorporate climate justice and promoting sustainable energy without hooring themselves out to whomever is in power.
 
2021-10-22 7:52:55 AM  

DarnoKonrad: I've just come to the conclusion the entire green party exists for no other reason than to syphon off Democratic votes.


Ralph Nader gives Jill Stein a high 5.
 
2021-10-22 8:33:28 AM  

ColonelCathcart: Parthenogenetic: Roastbeast Sammich: I don't understand these maneuverings. She obviously doesn't care about re-election, it's all about short-term cashing-in with this one.

Hmmm...

"[Democrats believe she will agree to the "mark to market" proposal to levy billionaires who don't pay taxes on their unrealized gains and a corporate minimum tax."

Either she doesn't understand what she's agreed to, or she's putting out feelers for additional contributions from wealthy donors to dissuade her.

Either way... quirky!

/Appendix: currently, capital gains taxes are only levied upon sale of the assets. MtM would tax wealth annually, at the current market value of the assets. This can be difficult for some assets with limited price information, e.g. infrequently traded stuff, collectibles, fine art. Arguments about practical implementation aside, her donors/concerned supporters/owners are NOT going to accept a wealth tax.

I think it's easy to value the expensive stuff. If someone takes a loan against it, that's the value. If they don't take a loan against it, they're not "profiting" at all.

Like trump. The banks have valued his stuff, tax him on that.

If you own a ton of shares, but just live off the dividends - why should the government tax you on the principle? Now, if you borrow against those shares, absolutely tax it.


Income is income.

I see no valid reason for money made off owning is taxed at a lower rate than that made off labor.

The same goes for wealth transfer. When was the last time a dead person complained about having to pay taxes? It's their money until the transfer is complete so taxing it reasonably makes a fark-ton of sense.

But, that won't change since to get elected our Federal politicians require gobs of cash, and who owns it all?
 
2021-10-22 8:40:06 AM  

NathanAllen: ColonelCathcart: Parthenogenetic: Roastbeast Sammich: I don't understand these maneuverings. She obviously doesn't care about re-election, it's all about short-term cashing-in with this one.

Hmmm...

"[Democrats believe she will agree to the "mark to market" proposal to levy billionaires who don't pay taxes on their unrealized gains and a corporate minimum tax."

Either she doesn't understand what she's agreed to, or she's putting out feelers for additional contributions from wealthy donors to dissuade her.

Either way... quirky!

/Appendix: currently, capital gains taxes are only levied upon sale of the assets. MtM would tax wealth annually, at the current market value of the assets. This can be difficult for some assets with limited price information, e.g. infrequently traded stuff, collectibles, fine art. Arguments about practical implementation aside, her donors/concerned supporters/owners are NOT going to accept a wealth tax.

I think it's easy to value the expensive stuff. If someone takes a loan against it, that's the value. If they don't take a loan against it, they're not "profiting" at all.

Like trump. The banks have valued his stuff, tax him on that.

If you own a ton of shares, but just live off the dividends - why should the government tax you on the principle? Now, if you borrow against those shares, absolutely tax it.

Income is income.

I see no valid reason for money made off owning is taxed at a lower rate than that made off labor.

The same goes for wealth transfer. When was the last time a dead person complained about having to pay taxes? It's their money until the transfer is complete so taxing it reasonably makes a fark-ton of sense.

But, that won't change since to get elected our Federal politicians require gobs of cash, and who owns it all?


I never said that. All I said is if there is no "income" (dividend or borrowing against the value) it should not be taxed. Simply having an asset.

As an absurd example, say I have a Italian Renaissance masterpiece passed down from centuries ago in my family...who is not rich at all...and it quietly sits on the mantle...should we be taxed at 2% per year if we have never monetized it and it's peers routinely sell for tens of millions of dollars?

Also, since it's a family heirloom should it be taxed every generation? I understand this is an absurd example, but the wealth tax will affect everything of potential value and your dad's vintage car could become the next $2M dollar collectible that you'll owe $40,000 per year in tax on - even though you didn't and don't plan to sell it or take a loan against it, does that seem right to you?
 
2021-10-22 8:43:57 AM  

Pugdaddyk: One more I found...such a quirky little thing she is

In 2003, she protested Senator Joe Lieberman's unsuccessful 2004 presidential bid, telling the Hartford Courant, "He's a shame to Democrats. I don't even know why he's running. He seems to want to get Republicans voting for him - what kind of strategy is that?"


Well, she was at least on the right side of the Lieberman thing. As a Connecticutian, I still feel the need to apologize for him, for some reason. I voted for him as a senator in the 90s or early 2000s (I can't remember which year he was on the ballot prior to the Presidential run), and never again. He's such a jackass, and I worry that Sinema putting his name out there by drawing comparisons is like saying Beetlejuice three times.
 
2021-10-22 8:44:58 AM  
But I thought if the ice melts, we end up with water world?

The Arctic is likely to be one, as it becomes more accessible because of reducing ice...
Access to water will also become a source of problems.
 
2021-10-22 9:34:50 AM  

aagrajag: I truly hate that c*nt.

She is a genuinely bad person. I want all of bad things to happen to her, and only to her.


Oh, there are plenty of other people that all the bad things should happen to. McConnell, for starters.
 
2021-10-22 10:21:21 AM  

aagrajag: I truly hate that c*nt.

She is a genuinely bad person. I want all of bad things to happen to her, and only to her.


And Manchin
 
2021-10-22 10:27:37 AM  
Ok, this is good.  Yesterday it sounded like she was firmly opposed to all of those tax proposals, which would kill the bill, but now it looks like she was just being, um, "quirky", and didn't really mean it.  Ok, so now talk Manchin up from $1.5 to $1.9 or $2.0 (or be lazy and just agree to what he wants), then talk Sinema into agreeing with what Manchin agreed to, then talk AOC and Sanders and the House progressives to support said compromise.  That's the roadmap, and it looks like there's actually a plan to get er done, amazingly.
 
2021-10-22 10:31:15 AM  

Geotpf: Ok, this is good.  Yesterday it sounded like she was firmly opposed to all of those tax proposals, which would kill the bill, but now it looks like she was just being, um, "quirky", and didn't really mean it.  Ok, so now talk Manchin up from $1.5 to $1.9 or $2.0 (or be lazy and just agree to what he wants), then talk Sinema into agreeing with what Manchin agreed to, then talk AOC and Sanders and the House progressives to support said compromise.  That's the roadmap, and it looks like there's actually a plan to get er done, amazingly.


Let's hope
 
2021-10-22 10:34:50 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Alphax: [Fark user image 800x552]

The bottom right misses the chance to say "The Senator Wears Pravda"


Is a Vest, ya?
 
2021-10-22 10:40:52 AM  

urethra_franklin: Pugdaddyk: One more I found...such a quirky little thing she is

In 2003, she protested Senator Joe Lieberman's unsuccessful 2004 presidential bid, telling the Hartford Courant, "He's a shame to Democrats. I don't even know why he's running. He seems to want to get Republicans voting for him - what kind of strategy is that?"

Well, she was at least on the right side of the Lieberman thing. As a Connecticutian, I still feel the need to apologize for him, for some reason. I voted for him as a senator in the 90s or early 2000s (I can't remember which year he was on the ballot prior to the Presidential run), and never again. He's such a jackass, and I worry that Sinema putting his name out there by drawing comparisons is like saying Beetlejuice three times.


Dad shot some money to Jerusalem Joe once, and got Christmas cards from him for years.
/ In fairness, in '94 Lieberman was the only alternative to Labriola.
 
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