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2021-10-21 9:00:50 AM  
This is an awesome video and concept, but at the back of my brain there is a little niggling doubt. To wit: how has this guy managed to avoid:
- local tax collectors and business regulators,
- local regulations on keeping farm animals,
- psycho cops who shoot his sheep ("they were coming right at at me!"),
- asshole dogs who attack his sheep, or
- thieves who want to steal them or his video camera?

Makes me wonder if this is all fake.
 
2021-10-21 9:04:17 AM  
I'd like to be the world's first homeless senator.
 
2021-10-21 9:07:10 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I'd like to be the world's first homeless senator.


Position: FILLED

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2021-10-21 9:09:41 AM  
So, Farkers, what kind of work would you do if you were homeless?

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2021-10-21 9:13:50 AM  

Harlee: ...how has this guy managed to avoid:
- local tax collectors and business regulators,
- local regulations on keeping farm animals,


I have no idea what local ordinances are like in the area he "grazes," but I'd imagine his actual tax obligations are low to nonexistent anyway and it wouldn't be worth the trouble unless he makes an exceptional nuisance of himself.

The second point is probably the bigger concern, and I'd imagine the existence of this video might have the potential to make that more difficult for him in the future. There was an incident similar to this a while back where some intrepid renters in San Francisco shared video of the "pods" they'd created in an already tiny apartment to further subdivide it. Surprise, city regulators were also watching.
 
2021-10-21 9:24:40 AM  
I would do work that afforded me a place to live.  But that's just my preference.
 
2021-10-21 9:28:32 AM  
I'd stand on the street corner with a can asking people to give me money.  I'd do this all day since it would be my job.
 
2021-10-21 9:34:24 AM  
Mugger.
 
2021-10-21 9:36:14 AM  
In high school I worked in an arcade and spent dozens of hours perfecting three card Monty.
And if they guess right you just grab the money and run anyway.

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2021-10-21 9:43:00 AM  

SpectroBoy: In high school I worked in an arcade and spent dozens of hours perfecting three card Monty.
And if they guess right you just grab the money and run anyway.

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If there's a "right guess", you may have missed an important step.
 
2021-10-21 9:46:03 AM  
OK, got the motivation here. The guy has an agenda. He's a True Believer anti-consumer and Homeless advocate. He has a whole theory about how homeless people can have symbiotic relationships with farmers. There is a lot of thought and tech that has gone into this, so he probably has "protectors" to intercede with the System. He even has a YT Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_yN​4​6KEE_WOLYMehmf3W3Q
 
2021-10-21 9:46:35 AM  
Handies.  I know I can perform those while holding reading material in the other hand because, well, just trust me.  So I could study and work at the same time, bettering myself while earning money.
 
2021-10-21 9:47:34 AM  

Naido: Handies.  I know I can perform those while holding reading material in the other hand because, well, just trust me.  So I could study and work at the same time, bettering myself while earning money.


I'm not currently homeless, but now I'm considering this seriously.
 
2021-10-21 9:49:17 AM  
I would adopt a vacant lot and improve it by picking up trash, nurturing native plants, stamping out a wandering path or two and scrounge around for materials for a bench and some wildlife shelters/boxes.

Then I'd get some young person to take photos for their instagram/reddit accounts.

Then I'd take that to the local governing body, to request funding for another vacant lot, which would include a modest salary for my homeless self.

If they said no I'd move on, rinse, repeat.

/plays in the dirt
//trashy lots are empty canvas
///
 
2021-10-21 9:49:19 AM  

Naido: Handies.  I know I can perform those while holding reading material in the other hand because, well, just trust me.  So I could study and work at the same time, bettering myself while earning money.


Will it cost extra if it's not a disinterested handy?
 
2021-10-21 9:50:43 AM  
Anti-consumers amuse me. The very fact that they are able to exist with their lifestyle is utterly dependent on the consumer society they condemn existing in the first place. Without consumerism they would not have the repurposed/revitalized discards, or the advantage of cutting edge camping technology (e.g.: solar ovens).
 
2021-10-21 9:56:13 AM  

no1curr: Naido: Handies.  I know I can perform those while holding reading material in the other hand because, well, just trust me.  So I could study and work at the same time, bettering myself while earning money.

Will it cost extra if it's not a disinterested handy?


Yes.  For an extra $5, I will swap books and read you poetry.

/limpid jets of love
 
2021-10-21 10:01:26 AM  

parasol: I would adopt a vacant lot and improve it by picking up trash, nurturing native plants, stamping out a wandering path or two and scrounge around for materials for a bench and some wildlife shelters/boxes.

Then I'd get some young person to take photos for their instagram/reddit accounts.

Then I'd take that to the local governing body, to request funding for another vacant lot, which would include a modest salary for my homeless self.

If they said no I'd move on, rinse, repeat.

/plays in the dirt
//trashy lots are empty canvas
///


Highly laudable and commonsensical. But there is a Problem: the potential liability to the city, should you somehow be injured while working on their city property.

I am completely serious about this. I spent 45 years in small-to-medium retail and distribution, where lots of deals were made. Sure fire recipe for failure: involved the lawyers from the start of the deal-making. Competent lawyers will dutifully kill, at the very least, all the mutual profit and joy inherent in the deal.

What you do instead is you hash out the deal without the lawyers, following standard contact procedurals. THEN you ask the lawyers for each side TOGETHER to analyze the finished document and show you AND the other deal-maker any legal deal-breakers for either side, then ADJUST accordingly.
 
2021-10-21 10:29:25 AM  

Harlee: parasol: I would adopt a vacant lot and improve it by picking up trash, nurturing native plants, stamping out a wandering path or two and scrounge around for materials for a bench and some wildlife shelters/boxes.

Then I'd get some young person to take photos for their instagram/reddit accounts.

Then I'd take that to the local governing body, to request funding for another vacant lot, which would include a modest salary for my homeless self.

If they said no I'd move on, rinse, repeat.

/plays in the dirt
//trashy lots are empty canvas
///

Highly laudable and commonsensical. But there is a Problem: the potential liability to the city, should you somehow be injured while working on their city property.

I am completely serious about this. I spent 45 years in small-to-medium retail and distribution, where lots of deals were made. Sure fire recipe for failure: involved the lawyers from the start of the deal-making. Competent lawyers will dutifully kill, at the very least, all the mutual profit and joy inherent in the deal.

What you do instead is you hash out the deal without the lawyers, following standard contact procedurals. THEN you ask the lawyers for each side TOGETHER to analyze the finished document and show you AND the other deal-maker any legal deal-breakers for either side, then ADJUST accordingly.



I spent a decade as an elected official and spearheaded projects to clean up and improve areas with the intent to covert them to green spaces, parks and playground.
Spent another heading a non profit servicing the poor and writing grants.
Nerded out, became a Master Gardener along the way.

If I were homeless, how would I "hash out a deal with lawyers"?

See, in this fark fantasy of "what kind of work would you do were you homeless" the word "lawyer" just didn't show up for me for some reason.

Making a small space better and healthier did.

What would you do, if homeless?
 
2021-10-21 10:29:32 AM  

Harlee: Anti-consumers amuse me. The very fact that they are able to exist with their lifestyle is utterly dependent on the consumer society they condemn existing in the first place. Without consumerism they would not have the repurposed/revitalized discards, or the advantage of cutting edge camping technology (e.g.: solar ovens).


I once met a guy who would hang around Waffle House eating people's leftover food after they got up to leave so he could claim he was a "freegan." I'm sure that worked out and he never contracted any kind of virus or disease
 
2021-10-21 10:29:47 AM  
Temperature gauge.
 
2021-10-21 10:30:53 AM  
If I were homeless I would create a website and con a bunch of people into paying me $5 a month to look at stuff that's already on the internet
 
2021-10-21 10:40:13 AM  

no1curr: Naido: Handies.  I know I can perform those while holding reading material in the other hand because, well, just trust me.  So I could study and work at the same time, bettering myself while earning money.

Will it cost extra if it's not a disinterested handy?



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2021-10-21 10:45:57 AM  
I'd move to San Francisco and force gullible tourists who think the city's still tourist-friendly to work in the shiat mines.
 
2021-10-21 10:48:02 AM  

parasol: I spent a decade as an elected official and spearheaded projects to clean up and improve areas with the intent to covert them to green spaces, parks and playground.
Spent another heading a non profit servicing the poor and writing grants.
Nerded out, became a Master Gardener along the way.

If I were homeless, how would I "hash out a deal with lawyers"?

See, in this fark fantasy of "what kind of work would you do were you homeless" the word "lawyer" just didn't show up for me for some reason.

Making a small space better and healthier did.

What would you do, if homeless?


Probably die (now).

But seriously. Mrs. Harlee and I were homeless for a year, subsequent to the 2008 recession. I had UI, so we had the wherewithal to have storage for our stuff, and a couple of 24HrFitness memberships, so as to have a place to shower, and we slept in a camper shell mounted on my F-250 truck.. I kept up contacts with the headhunters and temp agencies and managed to be working about half the time.
 
2021-10-21 10:53:04 AM  

OccamsWhiskers: SpectroBoy: In high school I worked in an arcade and spent dozens of hours perfecting three card Monty.
And if they guess right you just grab the money and run anyway.

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If there's a "right guess", you may have missed an important step.


If you got a rube who false for the basic swap, you keep the red queen on the table so you can reveal it and prove there is a chance of winning. If they catch on to the swap (top throw) you may have to go for the off the table option. BUT if you remove the red queen entirely and someone yells "he's cheating" you are busted when they flip the cards.

You can grift a lot longer if you leave her on the table and actually fool them with the swaps because you can then flip over the red queen to show you are being fair.
 
2021-10-21 10:53:50 AM  

Naido: Handies.  I know I can perform those while holding reading material in the other hand because, well, just trust me.  So I could study and work at the same time, bettering myself while earning money.


You are a genius and a scholar.
 
2021-10-21 11:24:53 AM  

Harlee: This is an awesome video and concept, but at the back of my brain there is a little niggling doubt. To wit: how has this guy managed to avoid:
- local tax collectors and business regulators,
- local regulations on keeping farm animals,
- psycho cops who shoot his sheep ("they were coming right at at me!"),
- asshole dogs who attack his sheep, or
- thieves who want to steal them or his video camera?

Makes me wonder if this is all fake.


-What would you tax, he's not trading in any money
-He's in a farming area, as he does some work on farms... guessing it's allowable to have a sheep
-He's white, and rural cops don't go around shooting sheep
-Dogs on farms are probably pretty familiar with sheep
-I think keeping his stuff charged would be the bigger problem
 
2021-10-21 11:25:12 AM  
Village idiot.  What? Rudy got the job?  Crap.
 
2021-10-21 11:56:04 AM  

Telos: Harlee: This is an awesome video and concept, but at the back of my brain there is a little niggling doubt. To wit: how has this guy managed to avoid:
- local tax collectors and business regulators,
- local regulations on keeping farm animals,
- psycho cops who shoot his sheep ("they were coming right at at me!"),
- asshole dogs who attack his sheep, or
- thieves who want to steal them or his video camera?

Makes me wonder if this is all fake.

-What would you tax, he's not trading in any money
-He's in a farming area, as he does some work on farms... guessing it's allowable to have a sheep
-He's white, and rural cops don't go around shooting sheep
-Dogs on farms are probably pretty familiar with sheep
-I think keeping his stuff charged would be the bigger problem


Bartering is seen as taxable income by the IRS.
 
2021-10-21 12:46:52 PM  

Telos: Harlee: This is an awesome video and concept, but at the back of my brain there is a little niggling doubt. To wit: how has this guy managed to avoid:
- local tax collectors and business regulators,
- local regulations on keeping farm animals,
- psycho cops who shoot his sheep ("they were coming right at at me!"),
- asshole dogs who attack his sheep, or
- thieves who want to steal them or his video camera?

Makes me wonder if this is all fake.

-What would you tax, he's not trading in any money
-He's in a farming area, as he does some work on farms... guessing it's allowable to have a sheep
-He's white, and rural cops don't go around shooting sheep
-Dogs on farms are probably pretty familiar with sheep
-I think keeping his stuff charged would be the bigger problem


I have that same Anker power pack, a 50,000mAh, from when I was homeless for 2 years. As long as you're not spending hours on YouTube/Hulu/Netflix, a full charge will keep you charged 4-7 days.
 
2021-10-21 12:59:41 PM  

Harlee: Anti-consumers amuse me. The very fact that they are able to exist with their lifestyle is utterly dependent on the consumer society they condemn existing in the first place. Without consumerism they would not have the repurposed/revitalized discards, or the advantage of cutting edge camping technology (e.g.: solar ovens).


It's a delicate ecosystem.  They are swimming in our consumerist wake.  If they kill the host they will also die.
 
2021-10-21 1:47:04 PM  
What is the purpose of life? To merely exist?
 
2021-10-21 3:26:29 PM  

JohnnyApocalypse: What is the purpose of life? To merely exist?


To be happy. He appears to be happy. The problem is that the lifestyle is not sustainable once you get old and frail. You generally need to made some "happiness" sacrifices in the present to cushion your happiness in the future.
 
2021-10-21 9:33:19 PM  
Write a book about my homelessness and then sell the rights to Netflix so they can make a series about it.
 
2021-10-21 10:52:38 PM  
Official Wandering Jew.
 
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