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2021-10-21 2:33:14 PM  
Q: Why we place too much trust in machines


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yeah not looking like a problem specific to machines here, maybe more just us and giving out trust in general is kinda of a real challenge.
 
2021-10-21 2:34:43 PM  

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yeah not looking like a problem specific to machines here, maybe more just us and giving out trust in general is kinda of a real challenge.


Relatedly... I think it's because we learn, from a very young age that people can't be trusted.

Machines, God, whatever else, certainly seem easier to trust than other humans.
 
2021-10-21 2:57:07 PM  
I was listening to a podcast recently. Apparently when you have a coding style, and you submit that falls outside the style guides, people get really upset when a person rejects their work purely because of style.

However, if you have automation in place to immediately reject work that violates the style guide, people just accept that and fix it and resubmit with no animosity.

Exact same result, but apparently we're happy to accept it from the machine. Go figure.
 
2021-10-21 2:59:34 PM  

Quantumbunny: PvtStash: Q: Why we place too much trust in machines


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yeah not looking like a problem specific to machines here, maybe more just us and giving out trust in general is kinda of a real challenge.

Relatedly... I think it's because we learn, from a very young age that people can't be trusted.

Machines, God, whatever else, certainly seem easier to trust than other humans.

ehhh....

not that many humans telling themselves about what god says though, that path is most commonly, another human is being trusted to tell you what god says.
So while i do see what you see here, i'm not sure that conclusion holds true really.

If someone really didn't trust people, then we'd expect they'd not have been led down the god needs you to send me monye path. Cause that situaiotn is trust in that person themselves, not the god really.
 
2021-10-21 3:26:38 PM  

Quantumbunny: PvtStash: Q: Why we place too much trust in machines


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yeah not looking like a problem specific to machines here, maybe more just us and giving out trust in general is kinda of a real challenge.

Relatedly... I think it's because we learn, from a very young age that people can't be trusted.

Machines, God, whatever else, certainly seem easier to trust than other humans.


Well
Humans do tend to be predatory unless systems are set up to direct that tendency/energy to something more civilized and productive for the nation
 
2021-10-21 3:27:43 PM  
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2021-10-21 3:28:46 PM  

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yeah not looking like a problem specific to machines here, maybe more just us and giving out trust in general is kinda of a real challenge.


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2021-10-21 3:44:00 PM  
If you're trying to throw shade over automation, don't start your article with an event that became rare because of automation. Definitely stay away from an activity that almost universally can trace fatalities to the error of the pilot.

Air Travel is so safe because of the machines, when it was up to the skill of the pilots, you had a much higher chance of dying.
 
2021-10-21 4:25:33 PM  
SMB2811:Air Travel is so safe because of the machines, when it was up to the skill of the pilots, you had a much higher chance of dying.

Pfft, typical Big Machine talking points. Time we started getting real, salt of the earth, blue collar Americans behind the steering thingy in these planes. Don't want no communist machines flying my ass around. I mean, if I had anywhere to go outside of my hometown.
 
2021-10-21 6:54:51 PM  

SMB2811: If you're trying to throw shade over automation, don't start your article with an event that became rare because of automation. Definitely stay away from an activity that almost universally can trace fatalities to the error of the pilot.

Air Travel is so safe because of the machines, when it was up to the skill of the pilots, you had a much higher chance of dying.


I wondered why they picked such a dumbass way to defeat their own point but perhaps they are making a case for automated computer generated reporting.
 
2021-10-22 8:21:01 AM  
Skynet claims it's going to exterminate humanity then tries it's best to do so.  That's a kind of honesty and follow through that you just don't get from human politicians.
 
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