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2021-10-21 2:40:36 AM  
It saves money when they smash it.
 
2021-10-21 4:42:29 AM  
Okay for people like EVH it doesn't matter. If the action is right and the pick ups are hot their pre amps and noise gates do a lot of the work.

Legends like Joe Pass or Wes Montgomery didn't have that back in the early days of amps. Name a cheap copy of an L5 that sounds as good.
 
2021-10-21 5:37:39 AM  
Everything about green day is cheap.
 
2021-10-21 6:35:46 AM  
List fails without:

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POS Mosrite guitar that launched a million garage bands
 
2021-10-21 7:34:44 AM  
List has May, but not Bo Diddly?
 
2021-10-21 8:29:41 AM  

tfresh: Okay for people like EVH it doesn't matter. If the action is right and the pick ups are hot their pre amps and noise gates do a lot of the work.

Legends like Joe Pass or Wes Montgomery didn't have that back in the early days of amps. Name a cheap copy of an L5 that sounds as good.


I had an Ibanez AF105F that was pretty nice.  I'm sure Joe or Wes would sound good on it
I'd sound the same on either L5 as I did on it.
 
2021-10-21 8:32:44 AM  

gunsmack: List fails without:

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POS Mosrite guitar that launched a million garage bands


My cousin is a millionaire, still has the one Mosrite he bought in high school in the 60s when he heard the tornadoes.
I keep asking him to sell it to me.
Not that he needs the money.

Just picked up a Norma in cherry condition with a sears roebuck amp model 1421 also sounding mint, with avocado green knobs. Grill cloth is cherry. Sat in a closet for half a century.
 
2021-10-21 8:39:51 AM  
Okay, so my Fark guitar nerds. Eldest child,14, has developed an affinity for various guitar-heavy bands as of late (which I am perfectly fine with, because her previous music tastes were hot garbage). She's asking for a guitar for Christmas.

Getting the gist of this article, it sounds like we can get by with something on the cheap side. I've done some minor research, but I was curious if my Fark friends had recommendations.

/Definitely making sure whatever baby amp she gets has a headphone jack
//and teaching her how to properly tune
///and Wonderwall, obviously.
 
2021-10-21 8:41:42 AM  
Define "cheap". I've tried some ~$100 guitars, and they wouldn't keep in tune for an hour.
 
2021-10-21 8:46:00 AM  

Where wolf: Okay, so my Fark guitar nerds. Eldest child,14, has developed an affinity for various guitar-heavy bands as of late (which I am perfectly fine with, because her previous music tastes were hot garbage). She's asking for a guitar for Christmas.

Getting the gist of this article, it sounds like we can get by with something on the cheap side. I've done some minor research, but I was curious if my Fark friends had recommendations.

/Definitely making sure whatever baby amp she gets has a headphone jack
//and teaching her how to properly tune
///and Wonderwall, obviously.


Squier as a brand, but they do have tiers - Bullet and Affinity.  She's 14 and of average hand span?  A 24"-scale Squier Mustang comes to mind.

Or, consider a kit the two of you finish, asemble and set up.  She learns how a guitar is built, and by extension, how to mod and customize.
 
2021-10-21 8:49:11 AM  

dionysusaur: Where wolf: Okay, so my Fark guitar nerds. Eldest child,14, has developed an affinity for various guitar-heavy bands as of late (which I am perfectly fine with, because her previous music tastes were hot garbage). She's asking for a guitar for Christmas.

Getting the gist of this article, it sounds like we can get by with something on the cheap side. I've done some minor research, but I was curious if my Fark friends had recommendations.

/Definitely making sure whatever baby amp she gets has a headphone jack
//and teaching her how to properly tune
///and Wonderwall, obviously.

Squier as a brand, but they do have tiers - Bullet and Affinity.  She's 14 and of average hand span?  A 24"-scale Squier Mustang comes to mind.

Or, consider a kit the two of you finish, asemble and set up.  She learns how a guitar is built, and by extension, how to mod and customize.


Warmoth has really cool bodies & necks, and often have a discount section.
Worth a look for ideas.
 
2021-10-21 9:44:13 AM  

dionysusaur: Where wolf: Okay, so my Fark guitar nerds. Eldest child,14, has developed an affinity for various guitar-heavy bands as of late (which I am perfectly fine with, because her previous music tastes were hot garbage). She's asking for a guitar for Christmas.

Getting the gist of this article, it sounds like we can get by with something on the cheap side. I've done some minor research, but I was curious if my Fark friends had recommendations.

/Definitely making sure whatever baby amp she gets has a headphone jack
//and teaching her how to properly tune
///and Wonderwall, obviously.

Squier as a brand, but they do have tiers - Bullet and Affinity.  She's 14 and of average hand span?  A 24"-scale Squier Mustang comes to mind.

Or, consider a kit the two of you finish, asemble and set up.  She learns how a guitar is built, and by extension, how to mod and customize.


Jack Pearson played with the Allman Brothers with a Squier Bullet he bought for $87. He can make anything sound good, but the fact that he toured with it in such a guitar-heavy band says a lot:


Jack Pearson's Guitar Collections | Marty's Guitar Tours
Youtube EW_ajThs8Vo


You can hear him play a Squier and talk about them in the first few minutes of this video.

He mentions that he thinks his were made in Indonesia at the Samick factory. IIRC, they're one of the biggest factories in the world.

I have a Fiesta Red New York Pro guitar from Indonesia (same factory, in all likelihood) that's probably 15 or so years old that I bought from Goodwill for less than $40, shipping included. I've modded it since then to be as close to a '62 Strat as I could get on a budget of about $300 total. While it may not be totally authentic, it's got all the basics at this point -- split shaft tuners, bent steel saddles and steel trem block, alnico pickups, alder body with maple neck -- and I love it as much as my real '81 Strat.

Darrell Braun on YT has a whole series of videos where he looks at inexpensive guitars, as do Philip McKnight and Guitar Max. I like Braun's videos because he spends time looking at how the guitar was constructed as well as how it sounds, and he's very big on making sure that the fret ends aren't sharp, including having a how-to video to smooth them out if they are.

Anyway, the point is, there are a lot of good options out there these days that are inexpensive.
 
2021-10-21 9:57:14 AM  

Where wolf: Okay, so my Fark guitar nerds. Eldest child,14, has developed an affinity for various guitar-heavy bands as of late (which I am perfectly fine with, because her previous music tastes were hot garbage). She's asking for a guitar for Christmas.

Getting the gist of this article, it sounds like we can get by with something on the cheap side. I've done some minor research, but I was curious if my Fark friends had recommendations.

/Definitely making sure whatever baby amp she gets has a headphone jack
//and teaching her how to properly tune
///and Wonderwall, obviously.


those build-your-own kits that already were mentioned are pretty cool. they range from pretty cheap (I picked up a tele knockoff for $70) to much more expensive. they do require a little technical skill to put together correctly, paint, and sound good but it's a great learning experience if you and her are looking for that

if not - check to see if you have any stores that sell used musical instruments. there's one store near me like that and I like stopping by every once in a while to see what they have. if you don't know much about guitars, if you know somebody who does ask them to go with you. also people who work there are almost always musicians and will help and let her play and try out anything. look for something comfortable and a good size for her to play, plus doesn't have any major problems like a warped neck, really high or low action, bad frets, or loose or broken hardware. but even if she wants something new - go to a store and have her try it first rather than buying it online and get a proper setup done. if she straps it on and it doesn't feel comfortable for her or it sounds bad and is difficult to play, she'll probably lose interest quickly
 
2021-10-21 10:06:32 AM  
I like my crappy cheap Ibanez bass as much as my nicer Ibanez bass but they are still both "cheap"
 
2021-10-21 10:39:33 AM  

Where wolf: Okay, so my Fark guitar nerds. Eldest child,14, has developed an affinity for various guitar-heavy bands as of late (which I am perfectly fine with, because her previous music tastes were hot garbage). She's asking for a guitar for Christmas.

Getting the gist of this article, it sounds like we can get by with something on the cheap side. I've done some minor research, but I was curious if my Fark friends had recommendations.

/Definitely making sure whatever baby amp she gets has a headphone jack
//and teaching her how to properly tune
///and Wonderwall, obviously.


The best guitar is the one she wants to pick up and play.  That's all that matters really.

Well, that and your wallet.
 
2021-10-21 10:40:06 AM  
I love cheap guitars. I also love building cigar box guitars from scratch. Guitar kits from suppliers and recently I purchased a violin kit.
 
2021-10-21 10:47:41 AM  
How To Make A Bottle Guitar (3 Parts and NO Tools)
Youtube S8UT1iEj_p4
 
2021-10-21 11:08:41 AM  

I Ate Shergar: It saves money when they smash it.


And how long will the workers keep making him new ones?
 
2021-10-21 11:24:07 AM  
"You can't get much cheaper than building your own guitar..." said the man that has never built his own guitar. Is it cheaper? Yeah. Is it cheap? Not if you do it right.
 
2021-10-21 11:28:09 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Define "cheap". I've tried some ~$100 guitars, and they wouldn't keep in tune for an hour.


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-10-21 11:35:46 AM  

Where wolf: Okay, so my Fark guitar nerds. Eldest child,14, has developed an affinity for various guitar-heavy bands as of late (which I am perfectly fine with, because her previous music tastes were hot garbage). She's asking for a guitar for Christmas.
Getting the gist of this article, it sounds like we can get by with something on the cheap side. I've done some minor research, but I was curious if my Fark friends had recommendations.
/Definitely making sure whatever baby amp she gets has a headphone jack
//and teaching her how to properly tune
///and Wonderwall, obviously.


Budget?

One thing I noticed is that the cheaper guitars suffer from inconsistent quality. One guitar in the line may be OK but the one next to it is messed up. It might be best to take her to guitarland. Have her try and hold them. Look out for ones with high action (the distance between the strings and the fretboard.) Too high and it is harder to play.

Top 5 Electric Guitars for Beginners - 2019 | Buyer's Guide
Youtube n7CORn-1A9A
 
2021-10-21 11:40:46 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: "You can't get much cheaper than building your own guitar..." said the man that has never built his own guitar. Is it cheaper? Yeah. Is it cheap? Not if you do it right.


I've built plenty and sold them. Guitars are not magical things you can only BUY from dealers. Once you figure out how to make a neck you like with the correct scale length the magic is over. You don't have to get a masters degree to be a luthier.
 
2021-10-21 12:59:46 PM  

Where wolf: Okay, so my Fark guitar nerds. Eldest child,14, has developed an affinity for various guitar-heavy bands as of late (which I am perfectly fine with, because her previous music tastes were hot garbage). She's asking for a guitar for Christmas.

Getting the gist of this article, it sounds like we can get by with something on the cheap side. I've done some minor research, but I was curious if my Fark friends had recommendations.

/Definitely making sure whatever baby amp she gets has a headphone jack
//and teaching her how to properly tune
///and Wonderwall, obviously.


Just keep in mind, that a cheap guitar in the hands of an experienced player is a vastly different thing from that of a novice. The experienced player, especially one with some electrical knowledge, is gonna mod the hell out of the guitar in order to customize it to his/her needs, based on said experience.

The novice will most likely struggle to learn on a difficult instrument, which is made even more difficult cuz learning how to play music ain't easy.

So yeah, you don't have to bust the bank on a top end instrument, but it should be a decent enough quality that it doesn't make learning a frustrating endeavor. Well, that's my 2 cents, at least. Good luck and it sounds like yer a great father!
 
2021-10-21 1:07:54 PM  

solokumba: AnotherBluesStringer: "You can't get much cheaper than building your own guitar..." said the man that has never built his own guitar. Is it cheaper? Yeah. Is it cheap? Not if you do it right.

I've built plenty and sold them. Guitars are not magical things you can only BUY from dealers. Once you figure out how to make a neck you like with the correct scale length the magic is over. You don't have to get a masters degree to be a luthier.


Rock on, fellow luthier!

I did 5 months at a trade school followed by a 2 year apprenticeship at a small acoustic guitar company. I've been building guitars, ukuleles, and cigar box instruments for almost 20 years since then as a side gig. I still get a rush every time I string one up and play the first chord.

Anyone who is interested should be able to build a guitar these days, with the amount of information out there and all the companies selling parts and kits. Having said that, it's still usually cheaper to buy an entry level guitar. Hardware and electronics costs add up quickly, and if you're building from scratch you'll need a few specialty tools. But it's totally worth it.

/just finished my 299th cigar box instrument last week
 
2021-10-21 1:40:05 PM  

Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: solokumba: AnotherBluesStringer: "You can't get much cheaper than building your own guitar..." said the man that has never built his own guitar. Is it cheaper? Yeah. Is it cheap? Not if you do it right.

I've built plenty and sold them. Guitars are not magical things you can only BUY from dealers. Once you figure out how to make a neck you like with the correct scale length the magic is over. You don't have to get a masters degree to be a luthier.

Rock on, fellow luthier!

I did 5 months at a trade school followed by a 2 year apprenticeship at a small acoustic guitar company. I've been building guitars, ukuleles, and cigar box instruments for almost 20 years since then as a side gig. I still get a rush every time I string one up and play the first chord.

Anyone who is interested should be able to build a guitar these days, with the amount of information out there and all the companies selling parts and kits. Having said that, it's still usually cheaper to buy an entry level guitar. Hardware and electronics costs add up quickly, and if you're building from scratch you'll need a few specialty tools. But it's totally worth it.

/just finished my 299th cigar box instrument last week


I will agree to all of your points. I can make an electric CBG, a nice one, for about 80 to 90 bucks now that I have all the tools and from bulk buying accoutrements. I have found one of the best cheap parlor guitars is by Gretsch called the Jim Dandy (G9500). I've had 5 people who played it and immediately they got one.
 
2021-10-21 9:48:34 PM  

Where wolf: Okay, so my Fark guitar nerds. Eldest child,14, has developed an affinity for various guitar-heavy bands as of late (which I am perfectly fine with, because her previous music tastes were hot garbage). She's asking for a guitar for Christmas.

Getting the gist of this article, it sounds like we can get by with something on the cheap side. I've done some minor research, but I was curious if my Fark friends had recommendations.

/Definitely making sure whatever baby amp she gets has a headphone jack
//and teaching her how to properly tune
///and Wonderwall, obviously.


Epiphone special II. If she is super into heavy you can go active later. At a loss for an amp to recommend though. Sorry.
 
2021-10-21 9:52:03 PM  

Where wolf: ///and Wonderwall, obviously.


Nutshell instead maybe?
 
2021-10-22 12:38:14 AM  

Marcos P: I like my crappy cheap Ibanez bass as much as my nicer Ibanez bass but they are still both "cheap"


Even what most would consider "expensive basses" are reasonable against guitar prices it seems.
 
2021-10-22 7:18:24 AM  

NINEv2: Where wolf: Okay, so my Fark guitar nerds. Eldest child,14, has developed an affinity for various guitar-heavy bands as of late (which I am perfectly fine with, because her previous music tastes were hot garbage). She's asking for a guitar for Christmas.

Getting the gist of this article, it sounds like we can get by with something on the cheap side. I've done some minor research, but I was curious if my Fark friends had recommendations.

/Definitely making sure whatever baby amp she gets has a headphone jack
//and teaching her how to properly tune
///and Wonderwall, obviously.

Epiphone special II. If she is super into heavy you can go active later. At a loss for an amp to recommend though. Sorry.


Orange Micro Dark.
 
2021-10-22 11:22:38 AM  

drewogatory: NINEv2: Where wolf: Okay, so my Fark guitar nerds. Eldest child,14, has developed an affinity for various guitar-heavy bands as of late (which I am perfectly fine with, because her previous music tastes were hot garbage). She's asking for a guitar for Christmas.

Getting the gist of this article, it sounds like we can get by with something on the cheap side. I've done some minor research, but I was curious if my Fark friends had recommendations.

/Definitely making sure whatever baby amp she gets has a headphone jack
//and teaching her how to properly tune
///and Wonderwall, obviously.

Epiphone special II. If she is super into heavy you can go active later. At a loss for an amp to recommend though. Sorry.

Orange Micro Dark.


That's just a head though. Spendy too.
 
2021-10-22 11:27:55 AM  

NINEv2: drewogatory: NINEv2: Where wolf: Okay, so my Fark guitar nerds. Eldest child,14, has developed an affinity for various guitar-heavy bands as of late (which I am perfectly fine with, because her previous music tastes were hot garbage). She's asking for a guitar for Christmas.

Getting the gist of this article, it sounds like we can get by with something on the cheap side. I've done some minor research, but I was curious if my Fark friends had recommendations.

/Definitely making sure whatever baby amp she gets has a headphone jack
//and teaching her how to properly tune
///and Wonderwall, obviously.

Epiphone special II. If she is super into heavy you can go active later. At a loss for an amp to recommend though. Sorry.

Orange Micro Dark.

That's just a head though. Spendy too.


There are a few used Line 6 amps at musicians friend. The affordable ones are all solid state but most have emulators and tuners built in. The micro spider might be a good place to start and she can play around with all kinds of sounds. I have a 75W that has served me pretty well.
 
2021-10-22 1:21:31 PM  

NINEv2: Orange Micro Dark


I mean, it's $200?  You can get a cabinet at any pawnshop. This one from Monoprice is a combo for $250:https://www.monoprice.com/produc​t?p_id​=611815 and they sound pretty good.
 
2021-10-22 1:29:44 PM  

drewogatory: NINEv2: Orange Micro Dark

I mean, it's $200?  You can get a cabinet at any pawnshop. This one from Monoprice is a combo for $250:https://www.monoprice.com/product​?p_id=611815 and they sound pretty good.


Orange makes good shiat, not arguing that. Just, yknow, first setup for a kid who's more likely to drop it than stick with it. Just playing the odds. I'd err on the bang for the buck side.
 
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