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2021-10-20 3:52:07 PM  
So there's a new fiction prize to be launched by the Ursula K. Le Guin Literary Trust, offering a $25,000 award for imaginative fiction. It does require it to be book-length (there's probably some technical details somewhere on what that actually entails) so it's probably not something any of us could grind out on a weekend, although I'm sure my plans for a time-travelling dinosaur ninja who fights space pirates would totally win on the imaginative part. I wouldn't refuse the literary prize, though, twenty-five grand is twenty-five grand.

Fark Fiction Anthology Update!

Progress on the edit pass for entries is going . . . swimmingly, actually, and I don't just mean that it rained a lot around here recently. This year the editor team tried something new in our process (totally not my idea, I wouldn't have thought of it) which has basically sped things up tremendously.  I'm still not done, of course, because that would be out of character and we wouldn't that, now would we? Even so, there's only about a day's worth of work left on this part of the task, so as soon as I can get that free day we'll be looking good.

Writing Question of the Week!

What prizes have you won for writing? What contests do you enter?
 
2021-10-20 3:59:07 PM  

toraque: (there's probably some technical details somewhere on what that actually entails)


Approx. 100K words.
 
2021-10-20 4:11:14 PM  
I think the last time I got a prize for writing was in high school.  I did publish a chapbook in 1999, selected from around 12 candidates, so I guess that was like winning a prize.
 
2021-10-20 4:45:21 PM  
From as much as I love her work. I understand from persons 'handlers' at SF cons and other stories.
She was a major asshole to deal with for fandom her like cult like handlers 'bully' fans and she was all good with that.
 
2021-10-20 4:51:26 PM  
Did I miss something?  Where's the irony?  I love Ursula:  Wizard of Earthsea, The Lathe of Heaven, The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas, etc.  Beats a poke in the eye with a rolled-up forward from Atlas Shrugged.
 
2021-10-20 5:23:05 PM  
I don't know as I've ever submitted my writing for a prize.  I do get the little Nanowrimo awards every year when I finish my project (just reread last years, which hit the word count but still needs about another chapter, but I think it's pretty decent... planning on a sequel this year... not sure if I can finish the little bit of last years that needs doing before November though and still get a Halloween story for Fark- started that today-)
 
2021-10-20 5:23:37 PM  
Ursula K. LeGuin went to high school with my parents. And I've admired her writing. I made a board game based on her Earthsea series, and nearly poisoned myself painting the board on a 4'x4' piece of plywood in an enclosed area. It wasn't very D&D style, more like a freewheeling Monopoly game with dice and cards. But I have to admit that when she moved from basic science fiction/fantasy to books that had a obviously "hidden message" I lost interest.
 
2021-10-20 5:30:48 PM  

WastrelWay: when she moved from basic science fiction/fantasy to books that had a obviously "hidden message" I lost interest.


I never read any of those.  What weird stuff was she on about?
 
2021-10-20 5:32:31 PM  

toraque: So there's a new fiction prize to be launched by the Ursula K. Le Guin Literary Trust, offering a $25,000 award for imaginative fiction. It does require it to be book-length (there's probably some technical details somewhere on what that actually entails) so it's probably not something any of us could grind out on a weekend, although I'm sure my plans for a time-travelling dinosaur ninja who fights space pirates would totally win on the imaginative part. I wouldn't refuse the literary prize, though, twenty-five grand is twenty-five grand.

Fark Fiction Anthology Update!

Progress on the edit pass for entries is going . . . swimmingly, actually, and I don't just mean that it rained a lot around here recently. This year the editor team tried something new in our process (totally not my idea, I wouldn't have thought of it) which has basically sped things up tremendously.  I'm still not done, of course, because that would be out of character and we wouldn't that, now would we? Even so, there's only about a day's worth of work left on this part of the task, so as soon as I can get that free day we'll be looking good.

Writing Question of the Week!

What prizes have you won for writing? What contests do you enter?


My FFA Authors Bio covers all of that.

"Rent Party is the winner of no awards, accolades, honors, or prizes."

But I plan on adding a Pulitzer and an Ursula K. La Guin Award to my collection.
 
2021-10-20 6:04:33 PM  

optikeye: From as much as I love her work. I understand from persons 'handlers' at SF cons and other stories.
She was a major asshole to deal with for fandom her like cult like handlers 'bully' fans and she was all good with that.


I don't get it. There's nothing negative about her. She did her thing. She wrote great books.
If the complaint is that she didn't play the game with fans, SFW.
 
2021-10-20 6:25:15 PM  

Halfabee64: Did I miss something?  Where's the irony?  I love Ursula:  Wizard of Earthsea, The Lathe of Heaven, The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas, etc.  Beats a poke in the eye with a rolled-up forward from Atlas Shrugged.


Le Guin refused a Nebula Award, because they gave the shaft to Stanislaw Lem. She wrote an article about, commenting that her reasoning wasn't as noteworthy as Sartre's refusal to accept the Nobel ("I want my name to be my own, not a subsidiary of an award." paraphrased). There's even an award for those who refuse awards, called The Jean-Paul Sartre Prize for Prize Refusal. Or at least there is in her article, so it exists somewhere.
 
2021-10-20 6:36:22 PM  
What prizes have you won for writing?

I won a medal for a three-way tie for first place in the essay portion of the academic decathlon in high school.

/I'd already been accepted to college at that point, and it's not the sort of thing that you put on your CV, so I haven't gotten a whole lot of mileage out of it.
 
2021-10-20 6:37:45 PM  
A bit off thread for those here who have pulished, and I know this has been probably asked a lot...I have a sci-fi novel about 80% done, I am debating how much expansion I need to make the story smoother without just cranking out endless exposition.

Publishing recommendations including processes, self-publish vs. publisher and editor route, etc.?
 
2021-10-20 6:43:53 PM  

JohnnyApocalypse: Halfabee64: Did I miss something?  Where's the irony?  I love Ursula:  Wizard of Earthsea, The Lathe of Heaven, The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas, etc.  Beats a poke in the eye with a rolled-up forward from Atlas Shrugged.

Le Guin refused a Nebula Award, because they gave the shaft to Stanislaw Lem. She wrote an article about, commenting that her reasoning wasn't as noteworthy as Sartre's refusal to accept the Nobel ("I want my name to be my own, not a subsidiary of an award." paraphrased). There's even an award for those who refuse awards, called The Jean-Paul Sartre Prize for Prize Refusal. Or at least there is in her article, so it exists somewhere.


Thank you.  DNK
 
2021-10-20 6:48:13 PM  
What prizes have you won for writing?

When I was in primary school, I once won a gummy snake for a story I wrote * shrugs *

/ I think the teacher was mostly relieved/impressed that I wasn't totally illiterate...
 
2021-10-20 7:26:31 PM  

JohnnyApocalypse: There's even an award for those who refuse awards, called The Jean-Paul Sartre Prize for Prize Refusal.


What happens if you refuse it?  Does the world implode?
 
2021-10-20 8:21:55 PM  

wademh: optikeye: From as much as I love her work. I understand from persons 'handlers' at SF cons and other stories.
She was a major asshole to deal with for fandom her like cult like handlers 'bully' fans and she was all good with that.

I don't get it. There's nothing negative about her. She did her thing. She wrote great books.
If the complaint is that she didn't play the game with fans, SFW.


My Bad....I confused her with Mercedes Lackey for a moment. Who had a 'posse' of body fan incel body guards to protect her at DragonCon. That bascially dragged in their own drama.
https://fanlore.org/wiki/Mercedes_Lac​k​ey_-_%22The_Dragoncon_Report%22
 
2021-10-20 8:38:38 PM  
OMG...I love this. I mean Mercedes Lackey had these fandom "Professional" body guards. And got into a fight at a bar. Which is framed as a assassination attempt in the narrative.
I especially like the bit in the story that the guy was wearing full body armor and "highly Skilled in martial Arts" ...and just happen to have hand cuffs to snap the asslent to a chair rail or something the Atlanta Hyatt and also this Pro had a 'walking stick'.

The professional bodyguards were wonderful, cool and resourceful and a lot of fun to be around. They gave us the accolade of telling us that we were a couple of their best clients, since we always did what they told us to without an argument. Poor Matt deserves another accolade, as he ran back and forth with drinks, food, and packages all three remaining days without a complaint. Pony also deserves high points, fitting seamlessly in with the professionals. The additional security provided by the QO volunteers (we never saw a a single moment of coverage from DragonCon security personel) is also greatly appreciated.
Everything went smoothly until the last signing on Saturday night. We had just about finished the signing when we had---as the pros so gracefully put it---an "incident." A half-dozen suspicious characters had been in and out of the room during the signing----watching the security, and NOT waiting to get anything signed. As the last couple of people got autographs, a couple QO staff were breaking things down, and with no one anywhere near the light switches---the lights suddenly went out in the room. It was a very tense moment until the QO staff got the lights back on, most of which, for Larry and me, was spent under a pile of sheltering bodies! Once the lights were on, the pros were taking no chances, they hustled us out and to a safe room. We still do not know who caused the lights to go out, or why they did so.
After we relaxed a little, the two pros, Larry, Pony, a QO volunteer, and myself all went to a sports-bar to watch the Tyson fight---and I finally got the pros to EAT something! They'd spent most of the day being so "on the job" that I don't think they'd gotten more than a bite or two between them, even in restaurants. At last (after three days in body-armor and one near-cardiac-arrest) we finished all the panels on Sunday and took the pros off for a pizza-party with the QO staff. Everybody thought the pros were great, and they had a fabulous time. Both of them came with us as far as our hotel; the first went on home, while the second accompanied us all the way to the jetway to the plane at the airport. He, I am told, returned to the party for a last couple of slices of pizza and a very-well-earned drink.
But it seems that our drama wasn't over yet, because as Pony left the party at about 12:30 pm, he was approached in the Hyatt lobby by two men dressed in black convention-costumes. One asked if he was "Pony", and when he acknowledged that he was, the second man grabbed and held him while the first took a walking-stick and tried to beat him up with it. This was, by the way, in full sight of several witnesses. Fortunately, Pony was still in his body-armor, and he is highly skilled at martial arts. He only took one blow before getting free and damaging both of his attackers; the man who was holding him fled, but he managed to down the one with the stick and handcuffed him to the railing until the police came. His attacker was taken to jail---this is also a matter of public record that can be verified---on assualt charges.
Pony got two cracked ribs, a bruised area about the size of a basketball, but no further damage as the body-armor absorbed most of the blow. We have no further information about his assailant at this time, but it would certainly appear that Pony took the hit that was meant for us, which only the presence of Pony, two professionals and several volunteers saved us from. So much for our being paranoid, and I think we were very lucky to have been in the hands of real pros instead of DragonCon. If it had been left up to Ed Kramer and DragonCon, odds are we'd have been hurt or dead before Sunday.
 
2021-10-20 9:55:36 PM  
I once refused the Nobel Prize for Literature.

Not a big sacrifice for me as I hadn't been awarded it that year.
 
2021-10-20 9:58:07 PM  
I refused threw away my creative writing award in the fifth grade. Does that count?
 
2021-10-20 9:59:11 PM  

JohnnyApocalypse: I refused threw away my creative writing award in the fifth grade. Does that count?


Looking at my grammar mistakes, it's hard to imagine I ever got a writing award. :/
 
2021-10-20 10:41:32 PM  
I got various ribbons for writing in grade school.
My senior year my short story got printed in the school literary magazine.
The next year my college Honor Society printed a revised version of the same story, plus a ultrashort story that would be called flash fiction today.

I made a video that won Best Documentary, that's kind of like editing and arranging words. It also won Best Experimental Video, because that's how I roll as a documentation

My college court reporting, of the embezzlement trial of the campus cop who pilfered $250K per year from parking machines, earned three news writing awards over three semesters.

The campus Chief of Police also wrote me a letter of commendation for my "fair, balanced, and objective reporting" of his officer's embezzlement trial. That is one of my prized possessions.

I wrote an "end of an era" article about my friend's historic bar closing. I wrote myself into because I had my first stand-up performance on that stage, where some of my pirate jokes were rated Rrrrrr. So it is written. That article got reprinted by Associated Press. The article features interviews with several people I interviewed for other articles there, and everybody had the perfect quote. It was magical writing it.

Oh, and money. That's a nice prize.
 
2021-10-20 10:58:01 PM  

toraque: Writing Question of the Week!

What prizes have you won for writing? What contests do you enter?


One of my novels won a Leo Award. That was...really cool.

Yeah. That was an awesome day.
 
2021-10-21 9:08:46 AM  

JohnnyApocalypse: Halfabee64: Did I miss something?  Where's the irony?  I love Ursula:  Wizard of Earthsea, The Lathe of Heaven, The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas, etc.  Beats a poke in the eye with a rolled-up forward from Atlas Shrugged.

Le Guin refused a Nebula Award, because they gave the shaft to Stanislaw Lem. She wrote an article about, commenting that her reasoning wasn't as noteworthy as Sartre's refusal to accept the Nobel ("I want my name to be my own, not a subsidiary of an award." paraphrased). There's even an award for those who refuse awards, called The Jean-Paul Sartre Prize for Prize Refusal. Or at least there is in her article, so it exists somewhere.


Now I have to find some Stanislaw Lem to see why he thinks he can piss on my childhood.  The only author he found worthy was Philip K. Dick, who was a loon.  I read some fantastic sci-fi/fantasy growing up by Harry Harrison, Tim Powers, Stephen Donaldson, Larry Niven, and OMG is Dan Simmons good (but too late for Lem's assessment),
 
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