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(NPR)   Alexei Navalny wins the Sakharov Prize, which apparently isn't just slang for being locked up in Russia   (npr.org) divider line
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564 clicks; posted to Politics » on 20 Oct 2021 at 7:25 PM (5 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-10-20 7:51:16 PM  
He'll be treated to a congratulatory polonium tea.
 
2021-10-20 7:53:25 PM  
You would like Navalny much less if he ever gained power. Navalny is a Russian nationalist while Putin is a USSR-style multiculturalist who denounces nationalism. Navalny might be less corrupt than Putin but you don't really care about Russia's people being robbed: Russians die and you cheer.
 
2021-10-20 7:54:12 PM  
Countdown to him "deciding to become a martyr" while still very much in prison...
 
2021-10-20 7:57:36 PM  
Is that like a Darwin Award for people who purposely return to a country where they have an outstanding arrest warrant?
 
2021-10-20 8:12:04 PM  

Klyukva: You would like Navalny much less if he ever gained power. Navalny is a Russian nationalist while Putin is a USSR-style multiculturalist who denounces nationalism. Navalny might be less corrupt than Putin but you don't really care about Russia's people being robbed: Russians die and you cheer.


'multiculturalist'? He's a Soviet-era hardliner and a brutal, punishment first style dictator.

Most people don't care about Russia: it's been a destabilizing force for decades and the rest of the world is tired of it.
Seriously, since WW2, almost every country and its peoples have flourished.
Russia has not.
 
2021-10-20 8:20:57 PM  
Wait.  Is he still alive?  I thought he died months ago.  Or did he get better, and is still in jail?
 
2021-10-20 8:26:58 PM  

Klyukva: You would like Navalny much less if he ever gained power. Navalny is a Russian nationalist while Putin is a USSR-style multiculturalist who denounces nationalism. Navalny might be less corrupt than Putin but you don't really care about Russia's people being robbed: Russians die and you cheer.


For once I actually agree with you. He is not a good person, but he doesn't weird power.
 
2021-10-20 9:02:50 PM  

Klyukva: You would like Navalny much less if he ever gained power. Navalny is a Russian nationalist while Putin is a USSR-style multiculturalist who denounces nationalism. Navalny might be less corrupt than Putin but you don't really care about Russia's people being robbed: Russians die and you cheer.


I'll get back to you on that if it's ever a possibility. Right now it's not particularly important.
 
2021-10-20 9:21:47 PM  

Klyukva: while Putin is a USSR-style multiculturalist


I haven't heard that one yet but it's definitely one way to describe forcibly taking land from your neighbors
 
2021-10-20 9:38:21 PM  

Klyukva: You would like Navalny much less if he ever gained power. Navalny is a Russian nationalist while Putin is a USSR-style multiculturalist who denounces nationalism. Navalny might be less corrupt than Putin but you don't really care about Russia's people being robbed: Russians die and you cheer.


Navalny has zero chance of replacing Putin.

I applaud whatever he does to weaken and embarrass Putin and his kleptocratic regime.
 
2021-10-20 10:07:18 PM  

fastfxr: Klyukva: You would like Navalny much less if he ever gained power. Navalny is a Russian nationalist while Putin is a USSR-style multiculturalist who denounces nationalism. Navalny might be less corrupt than Putin but you don't really care about Russia's people being robbed: Russians die and you cheer.

'multiculturalist'? He's a Soviet-era hardliner and a brutal, punishment first style dictator.


Yes. Multiculturalism describes his preference for multiple cultures to exist within the realm he rules. This can exist with or without any kind of political freedom. For a contemporary example of a dictatorship that prizes multiculturalism see Singapore.

The People's Republic of China used to be another such example at least in official propaganda, having much of the same ideological heritage as the USSR, but other posters on FARK have told me that in recent years Xi Jinping has been moving away from this much to the delight of the Han majority.
 
2021-10-20 10:38:18 PM  

Klyukva: fastfxr: Klyukva: You would like Navalny much less if he ever gained power. Navalny is a Russian nationalist while Putin is a USSR-style multiculturalist who denounces nationalism. Navalny might be less corrupt than Putin but you don't really care about Russia's people being robbed: Russians die and you cheer.

'multiculturalist'? He's a Soviet-era hardliner and a brutal, punishment first style dictator.

Yes. Multiculturalism describes his preference for multiple cultures to exist within the realm he rules. This can exist with or without any kind of political freedom. For a contemporary example of a dictatorship that prizes multiculturalism see Singapore.

The People's Republic of China used to be another such example at least in official propaganda, having much of the same ideological heritage as the USSR, but other posters on FARK have told me that in recent years Xi Jinping has been moving away from this much to the delight of the Han majority.


Yeah, Vlad is a multiculturalist. He wants to conquer Chechnyans, Georgians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Lithuanians, Finns, and probably has eyes on the Falklands as well. Which is a huge part of what makes him a problem.

If Navalny is a nationalist as you describe and doesn't keep forcibly invading his neighbors, I'd consider that a win. If a Russian dies instead of a Lithuanian, well at least the Russian had a part in choosing their demise.
 
2021-10-20 11:19:19 PM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Klyukva: fastfxr: Klyukva: You would like Navalny much less if he ever gained power. Navalny is a Russian nationalist while Putin is a USSR-style multiculturalist who denounces nationalism. Navalny might be less corrupt than Putin but you don't really care about Russia's people being robbed: Russians die and you cheer.

'multiculturalist'? He's a Soviet-era hardliner and a brutal, punishment first style dictator.

Yes. Multiculturalism describes his preference for multiple cultures to exist within the realm he rules. This can exist with or without any kind of political freedom. For a contemporary example of a dictatorship that prizes multiculturalism see Singapore.

The People's Republic of China used to be another such example at least in official propaganda, having much of the same ideological heritage as the USSR, but other posters on FARK have told me that in recent years Xi Jinping has been moving away from this much to the delight of the Han majority.

Yeah, Vlad is a multiculturalist. He wants to conquer Chechnyans, Georgians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Lithuanians, Finns, and probably has eyes on the Falklands as well. Which is a huge part of what makes him a problem.

If Navalny is a nationalist as you describe and doesn't keep forcibly invading his neighbors, I'd consider that a win. If a Russian dies instead of a Lithuanian, well at least the Russian had a part in choosing their demise.


Expansionism is a separate variable altogether, especially when neighboring counties have significant populations of what you regard as your people.
 
2021-10-20 11:20:37 PM  

Klyukva: You would like Navalny much less if he ever gained power. Navalny is a Russian nationalist while Putin is a USSR-style multiculturalist who denounces nationalism. Navalny might be less corrupt than Putin but you don't really care about Russia's people being robbed: Russians die and you cheer.


Putin may denounce nationalism in Russia, but he happily supports Neo Nazi and fascist movements around the world.  Its doubtful Navalny could be any worse.
 
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