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2021-10-20 5:37:35 AM  
Its ok though. Eventually all the shiat business will fail and be replaced by ones who know how to pay a fair wage with benefits to keep people long term


How long that will take is another question entirely
 
2021-10-20 5:39:27 AM  
Holz said, "58 applications says y'all aren't desperate for workers, you just miss your slaves."

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I liked this one.

But Holz said the construction company instead tried to offer Florida's minimum wage of $8.65 to start, even though the wage was scheduled to increase to $10 an hour on September 30. He added that it wanted full-time availability, while scheduling only part time until Holz gained seniority.

I've seen lots of variations of that one before. Crappy part time jobs with deranged, completely irregular schedules that make it nearly impossible to get another part time job to earn more. C'mon serf, you should be happy you're working at all.
 
2021-10-20 5:40:43 AM  

hissatsu: Holz said, "58 applications says y'all aren't desperate for workers, you just miss your slaves."

[memegenerator.net image 335x250]

I liked this one.

But Holz


Heh heh, "butt holes".
 
2021-10-20 5:45:14 AM  
Hey!  I've got an idea . . . .
Let's start a business, let's say a restaurant because everybody likes to eat food.
Now, let's hire some people to work at the restaurant.
What shall we pay them to work?  To cook the food and clean the place so the food isn't covered with the garbage the people bring?
Let's see how little we can pay them, because I don't want to give them any of the money.
FARK YOU!
PAY ME WHAT I AM WORTH TO YOUR BUSINESS.
Greedy S.O.B.
 
2021-10-20 5:45:50 AM  
Best part? The one place that did actually interview him wanted to pay him minimum wage even though they advertised the position as several dollars above, advertised full time but wanted him to work part time yet be available full time until he got "seniority".

And that place actually at least offered something. 1 out of 60.
 
2021-10-20 5:46:35 AM  

adamatari: Best part? The one place that did actually interview him wanted to pay him minimum wage even though they advertised the position as several dollars above, advertised full time but wanted him to work part time yet be available full time until he got "seniority".

And that place actually at least offered something. 1 out of 60.


2 bucks and change is a difference of "several dollars"


Since when?
 
2021-10-20 5:48:57 AM  

lifeslammer: Its ok though. Eventually all the shiat business will fail and be replaced by ones who know how to pay a fair wage with benefits to keep people long term


How long that will take is another question entirely


Except these companies are propped up with tax breaks both local and federal. Which is hilarious, since it's all "that's how capitalism works" when making money off of exploited labor, and "everyone is lazy" when the labor force is like please pay us a wage that lets us have a home and food.
 
2021-10-20 5:52:36 AM  

lifeslammer: adamatari: Best part? The one place that did actually interview him wanted to pay him minimum wage even though they advertised the position as several dollars above, advertised full time but wanted him to work part time yet be available full time until he got "seniority".

And that place actually at least offered something. 1 out of 60.

2 bucks and change is a difference of "several dollars"


Since when?


Yes.
Always.

You don't have to do your whole schtick in every thread. You know that, right?
 
2021-10-20 5:52:46 AM  

hissatsu: Holz said, "58 applications says y'all aren't desperate for workers, you just miss your slaves."

[memegenerator.net image 335x250]

I liked this one.

But Holz said the construction company instead tried to offer Florida's minimum wage of $8.65 to start, even though the wage was scheduled to increase to $10 an hour on September 30. He added that it wanted full-time availability, while scheduling only part time until Holz gained seniority.

I've seen lots of variations of that one before. Crappy part time jobs with deranged, completely irregular schedules that make it nearly impossible to get another part time job to earn more. C'mon serf, you should be happy you're working at all.


And impossible to have a life outside of work because of an irregular schedule where you have to be available all the time.
 
2021-10-20 5:54:16 AM  

lifeslammer: adamatari: Best part? The one place that did actually interview him wanted to pay him minimum wage even though they advertised the position as several dollars above, advertised full time but wanted him to work part time yet be available full time until he got "seniority".

And that place actually at least offered something. 1 out of 60.

2 bucks and change is a difference of "several dollars"


Since when?


At the end of each month.
 
2021-10-20 5:54:58 AM  

lifeslammer: adamatari: Best part? The one place that did actually interview him wanted to pay him minimum wage even though they advertised the position as several dollars above, advertised full time but wanted him to work part time yet be available full time until he got "seniority".

And that place actually at least offered something. 1 out of 60.

2 bucks and change is a difference of "several dollars"


Since when?


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found the shiatty employer nostalgic for his prepandemic feudal enterprise
 
2021-10-20 5:56:31 AM  

lifeslammer: adamatari: Best part? The one place that did actually interview him wanted to pay him minimum wage even though they advertised the position as several dollars above, advertised full time but wanted him to work part time yet be available full time until he got "seniority".

And that place actually at least offered something. 1 out of 60.

2 bucks and change is a difference of "several dollars"


Since when?


Gosh, only about few hundred years. The kids these days and their crazy slang!

From dictionary.com, 1st entry:

several
[ sev-er-uhl, sev-ruhl ]


🍎 Elementary Level
adjective

being more than two but fewer than many in number or kind:
several ways of doing it.
 
2021-10-20 5:57:04 AM  

lifeslammer: adamatari: Best part? The one place that did actually interview him wanted to pay him minimum wage even though they advertised the position as several dollars above, advertised full time but wanted him to work part time yet be available full time until he got "seniority".

And that place actually at least offered something. 1 out of 60.

2 bucks and change is a difference of "several dollars"


Since when?


And per day that adds up to...

Fark it, do two hours, what does that equal?

You should kick yourself in the balls for that.
 
2021-10-20 5:57:31 AM  
It would be interesting to see what he wrote in each application. It's pretty easy to tilt these depending on how he filled them out.
 
2021-10-20 5:58:31 AM  
My hospital starts new grad nurses at $16-$22 an hour (depending on LPN or RN), and they wonder why biatches are leaving to travel.

This is how desperate HCA is now: They're importing nurses from the Philippines, and paying to sponsor their visas (and eventual citizenship I bet). And it's not to make staffing ratios better. It's so (they say) have more patients. But every bed possible is filled already. What are they planning to do?
 
2021-10-20 6:01:30 AM  
No information about this guy, his age, or what his job applications looked like.

But everything he says must be true as if this were the mostest scientific study ever, because it confirms what you want to believe: that there is no worker shortage.

There is no shortage of idiots willing to believe any viral news story.
 
2021-10-20 6:02:28 AM  
It was a small, local net to cast, but it proved what we already know: Outspoken people who constantly tell you they are something are very rarely that something.
In this case, people who constantly tell you they are hard-working  ... well, they're not very hard working at all.  They're just assholes.
 
2021-10-20 6:03:33 AM  

Animatronik: No information about this guy, his age, or what his job applications looked like.

But everything he says must be true as if this were the mostest scientific study ever, because it confirms what you want to believe: that there is no worker shortage.

There is no shortage of idiots willing to believe any viral news story.


Show your proof. Unemployment is down. Where did they all go?
 
2021-10-20 6:06:10 AM  
For the most part, the Service Industry treats their employees badly, and I'm not just talking food industry. I was an inbound call center agent for a number of years, and our manager just treated us like we needed to bow down and worship her for the 'privileged' of working

She would offer sales bonuses and had us jump through hoops, then yank the carpet out from under us because evidentially we didn't jump through enough of her imaginary hoops.

Then she wondered why morale was so low, and we had such a high turnover
 
2021-10-20 6:08:18 AM  

Animatronik: No information about this guy, his age, or what his job applications looked like.

But everything he says must be true as if this were the mostest scientific study ever, because it confirms what you want to believe: that there is no worker shortage.

There is no shortage of idiots willing to believe any viral news story.


There is information on all those things.  Pull up those boot straps, son.
 
2021-10-20 6:10:29 AM  

cheap_thoughts: My hospital starts new grad nurses at $16-$22 an hour (depending on LPN or RN), and they wonder why biatches are leaving to travel.

This is how desperate HCA is now: They're importing nurses from the Philippines, and paying to sponsor their visas (and eventual citizenship I bet). And it's not to make staffing ratios better. It's so (they say) have more patients. But every bed possible is filled already. What are they planning to do?


USA has had special visa program for nurses from Philippines for years now. There has been a nursing shortage for a long time.
 
2021-10-20 6:11:18 AM  

Animatronik: No information about this guy, his age, or what his job applications looked like.

But everything he says must be true as if this were the mostest scientific study ever, because it confirms what you want to believe: that there is no worker shortage.

There is no shortage of idiots willing to believe any viral news story.


Fake Noos!

Pathetic.
 
2021-10-20 6:13:11 AM  

Animatronik: No information about this guy, his age, or what his job applications looked like.

But everything he says must be true as if this were the mostest scientific study ever, because it confirms what you want to believe: that there is no worker shortage.

There is no shortage of idiots willing to believe any viral news story.


There is no shortage of idiots not willing to believe any viral news story.

pick your poison...
 
2021-10-20 6:13:16 AM  

hissatsu: Holz said, "58 applications says y'all aren't desperate for workers, you just miss your slaves."

[memegenerator.net image 335x250]

I liked this one.

But Holz said the construction company instead tried to offer Florida's minimum wage of $8.65 to start, even though the wage was scheduled to increase to $10 an hour on September 30. He added that it wanted full-time availability, while scheduling only part time until Holz gained seniority.

I've seen lots of variations of that one before. Crappy part time jobs with deranged, completely irregular schedules that make it nearly impossible to get another part time job to earn more. C'mon serf, you should be happy you're working at all.


Yeah, there seems to be this attitude that you own people,s entire lives, when you are writing them a paycheck, no matter how crappy tgat paycheck.
 
2021-10-20 6:14:55 AM  

UncleDirtNap: It would be interesting to see what he wrote in each application. It's pretty easy to tilt these depending on how he filled them out.


if these places are so desperate for workers for entry level jobs, an application written in crayon should get a consideration.
 
2021-10-20 6:16:59 AM  

UncleDirtNap: It would be interesting to see what he wrote in each application. It's pretty easy to tilt these depending on how he filled them out.


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This was his cover sheet
 
2021-10-20 6:17:15 AM  
Impossible!  The benevolent Job Creators would never lie to us.  He musta done something!
 
2021-10-20 6:17:50 AM  

Animatronik: No information about this guy, his age, or what his job applications looked like.

But everything he says must be true as if this were the mostest scientific study ever, because it confirms what you want to believe: that there is no worker shortage.

There is no shortage of idiots willing to believe any viral news story.


maybe.  It does suck to spend a few hours applying for one job and taking the skills tests to get no feedback on what you did right or what you did wrong.
 
2021-10-20 6:18:43 AM  

Animatronik: No information about this guy, his age, or what his job applications looked like.

But everything he says must be true as if this were the mostest scientific study ever, because it confirms what you want to believe: that there is no worker shortage.

There is no shortage of idiots willing to believe any viral news story.

Holz acknowledged that his results may not be representative of the larger labor challenges in the country, since his search was local and targeted the most vocal critics of stimulus spending.


Or the opposite of what you said.  He started a simple focused experiment to show the countless articles about the labor shortage might not be the most statistically vetted pieces of journalism.
 
2021-10-20 6:20:05 AM  
I experienced something similar in 2008. 10 applications a day for weeks and weeks. 1 or 2 interviews, if I was lucky.
 
2021-10-20 6:21:09 AM  

holdmybones: Show your proof. Unemployment is down. Where did they all go?


Unemployment is people actively looking for a job.
 
2021-10-20 6:21:58 AM  

holdmybones: Animatronik: No information about this guy, his age, or what his job applications looked like.

But everything he says must be true as if this were the mostest scientific study ever, because it confirms what you want to believe: that there is no worker shortage.

There is no shortage of idiots willing to believe any viral news story.

Show your proof. Unemployment is down. Where did they all go?


So you want me to show proof that his study with no proof hasn't shown any proof?

Logic doesn't work that way.

Prove that most job openings are fake.  Thats the thesis of the article. We already know he applied for at least 60 job openings. I see plenty where I live.

The burden of proof is on you to show they are all fake, due to a massive conspiracy of employers.
Show your work.
 
2021-10-20 6:22:00 AM  

ColonelCathcart: UncleDirtNap: It would be interesting to see what he wrote in each application. It's pretty easy to tilt these depending on how he filled them out.

[Fark user image image 425x566]

This was his cover sheet


Also depends on where he applied.
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Do you think they would hire me as a waiter at Hooters?  No.
 
2021-10-20 6:23:26 AM  
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I'm not saying the management he interviewed with should be eaten alive by the most horrific yet slowest cancers possible while his bowels are infested with fleas and other biting insects.  I'm not saying that at all. Not in the least.
 
2021-10-20 6:23:53 AM  
This of course is all part of The Plan.
 
2021-10-20 6:23:56 AM  
I'm sure this is all on the up and up. If he did everything properly and got hired there would be no story.
 
2021-10-20 6:25:04 AM  

Animatronik: holdmybones: Animatronik: No information about this guy, his age, or what his job applications looked like.

But everything he says must be true as if this were the mostest scientific study ever, because it confirms what you want to believe: that there is no worker shortage.

There is no shortage of idiots willing to believe any viral news story.

Show your proof. Unemployment is down. Where did they all go?

So you want me to show proof that his study with no proof hasn't shown any proof?

Logic doesn't work that way.

Prove that most job openings are fake.  Thats the thesis of the article. We already know he applied for at least 60 job openings. I see plenty where I live.

The burden of proof is on you to show they are all fake, due to a massive conspiracy of employers.
Show your work.


Proof the entire worker shortage isn't being blown out of proportion.
 
2021-10-20 6:27:07 AM  
I believe this.  My company is javing hiring problems, and in my opinion it is caused by two problems.

The first problem is that we need to offer at least 2 to 3 dollars an hour more to make us competitive.  It would still be a shiat wage, but it would at least mske us competitive with all the other exploitive companies.

Second, when we do get applicants, managers never follow up on them because managers are all working 80 to 90 hours a week doing mostly entry level stuff like cooking and cleaning, instead of actaully managing.

This later is also why customer service sucks right now, because there is no one to follow up on anything.

We have district managers spending the bulk of their day showing up to stores to do entry level work.

All the while we spent a decade saying how we were going to replace all the kids with machines, once labor got too expensive.  Well now we are in a crises and it turns out there were never ever actaully any serious attempts to make labor saving robots, just a lot of talk to impress investors, who were all lied to about the robot revolution.

That is right investor class, you are being lied to about the robots.
 
2021-10-20 6:29:30 AM  

Animatronik: holdmybones: Animatronik: No information about this guy, his age, or what his job applications looked like.

But everything he says must be true as if this were the mostest scientific study ever, because it confirms what you want to believe: that there is no worker shortage.

There is no shortage of idiots willing to believe any viral news story.

Show your proof. Unemployment is down. Where did they all go?

So you want me to show proof that his study with no proof hasn't shown any proof?

Logic doesn't work that way.

Prove that most job openings are fake.  Thats the thesis of the article. We already know he applied for at least 60 job openings. I see plenty where I live.

The burden of proof is on you to show they are all fake, due to a massive conspiracy of employers.
Show your work.


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you and the rest of this thread

/i love a good drag
 
2021-10-20 6:30:42 AM  

kyuzokai: lifeslammer: adamatari: Best part? The one place that did actually interview him wanted to pay him minimum wage even though they advertised the position as several dollars above, advertised full time but wanted him to work part time yet be available full time until he got "seniority".

And that place actually at least offered something. 1 out of 60.

2 bucks and change is a difference of "several dollars"


Since when?

Gosh, only about few several hundred years. The kids these days and their crazy slang!

From dictionary.com, 1st entry:

several
[ sev-er-uhl, sev-ruhl ]


🍎 Elementary Level
adjective
being more than two but fewer than many in number or kind:
several ways of doing it.


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-10-20 6:32:53 AM  

Giant Clown Shoe: Animatronik: holdmybones: Animatronik: No information about this guy, his age, or what his job applications looked like.

But everything he says must be true as if this were the mostest scientific study ever, because it confirms what you want to believe: that there is no worker shortage.

There is no shortage of idiots willing to believe any viral news story.

Show your proof. Unemployment is down. Where did they all go?

So you want me to show proof that his study with no proof hasn't shown any proof?

Logic doesn't work that way.

Prove that most job openings are fake.  Thats the thesis of the article. We already know he applied for at least 60 job openings. I see plenty where I live.

The burden of proof is on you to show they are all fake, due to a massive conspiracy of employers.
Show your work.

[Fark user image image 220x209]

you and the rest of this thread

/i love a good drag


Ah, yes glorifying street violence and picking on people that are smaller than you while using the female equivalent of the crotch kick. Stay classy libs.
 
2021-10-20 6:35:42 AM  

holdmybones: Animatronik: No information about this guy, his age, or what his job applications looked like.

But everything he says must be true as if this were the mostest scientific study ever, because it confirms what you want to believe: that there is no worker shortage.

There is no shortage of idiots willing to believe any viral news story.

Show your proof. Unemployment is down. Where did they all go?


The labor participation rate is down too. They've simply stopped working or retired.
 
2021-10-20 6:39:27 AM  
around 2000 i got my microsoft certs in windows nt cause those certs were supposed to be the ticket to a decent paying career. the tech bubble burst about then, leading to many people with much longer resumes looking for work.

236 resumes later, i got a job through a friend doing computer surplus work and not the server work i'd trained for. when that company bit the dust, i went back to plumbing and electrical work. fark this business of putting out hundreds of resumes for nothing.

it was much easier to build a list of clients by doing good work and showing up when i said i would. . word like that gets around and ive had no shortage of work since i made that move...
 
2021-10-20 6:39:52 AM  
He'll have even more fun once he turns 50. There are a lot of places that flat out won't even consider hiring anyone looking for work if they're over 50 years old. I spent 25 years in machine shops. Now, when I go into a place it's full of 20-somethings making a few bucks over minimum wage, I ask for pay commensurate with my experience, and they toss the application in the trash the moment I walk out the door.

I've been in several shops that went out of business because the owner was more concerned with making the payments on his vacation house or his $65000 pickup truck than he was buying basic supplies like inserts, toolholders or even just keeping the damn machines running right. When everything goes to shiat, it's the workers fault.

But they are always whining about how they can't get anyone with experience, and experienced people aren't going to be interested in working for a place where the paycheck still leaves them mostly broke at the end of every month.

"Hell, whattaya want? We gave you a buck an hour raise last year."
"Yeah, but my rent just went up by $350."
"That's not my problem, it isn't up to me to pay your rent. Find a cheaper place to live."
"The place I'm in now is about as cheap as it gets. If I move the rent is going to be even higher."
"Again, not my problem."

Repeat, ad infinitum.
 
2021-10-20 6:41:08 AM  

lifeslammer: adamatari: Best part? The one place that did actually interview him wanted to pay him minimum wage even though they advertised the position as several dollars above, advertised full time but wanted him to work part time yet be available full time until he got "seniority".

And that place actually at least offered something. 1 out of 60.

2 bucks and change is a difference of "several dollars"


Since when?


$10 - $8.65 is "2 bucks and change"

Since when?
 
2021-10-20 6:41:44 AM  
I see the bootlickers came to this thread right on cue.
 
2021-10-20 6:43:06 AM  
Whar all our pictures, Whar?
 
2021-10-20 6:43:55 AM  

winedrinkingman: I believe this.  My company is javing hiring problems, and in my opinion it is caused by two problems.

The first problem is that we need to offer at least 2 to 3 dollars an hour more to make us competitive.  It would still be a shiat wage, but it would at least mske us competitive with all the other exploitive companies.

Second, when we do get applicants, managers never follow up on them because managers are all working 80 to 90 hours a week doing mostly entry level stuff like cooking and cleaning, instead of actaully managing.

This later is also why customer service sucks right now, because there is no one to follow up on anything.

We have district managers spending the bulk of their day showing up to stores to do entry level work.

All the while we spent a decade saying how we were going to replace all the kids with machines, once labor got too expensive.  Well now we are in a crises and it turns out there were never ever actaully any serious attempts to make labor saving robots, just a lot of talk to impress investors, who were all lied to about the robot revolution.

That is right investor class, you are being lied to about the robots.


They aren't exactly being lied to about robots, it's just that not every job is easy to automate or worth automating. You can make a machine do the same thing millions of times but even a fast food restaurant has a pretty big menu, and orders get customized, and machines break and require operators.

So for many jobs, assuming you even can make a robot that can do it, you're replacing a person or two with a robot that requires and mechanic and an operator, who have to be paid more than the labor you replaced.

Stuff like fast food has limited room to be automated. There are lots of seemingly simple tasks that can't be easily automated, and machines require maintenance and energy and cost money. There is a reason a lot of factory work is now automated, but fast food isn't. A robot can do some complex things, but they have to be very predictable and basically you build everything around the robot or machine. Even fast food is beyond the capabilities of robots. They can make computer chips, but not customize a taco.
 
2021-10-20 6:45:16 AM  

ssaoi: Animatronik: No information about this guy, his age, or what his job applications looked like.

But everything he says must be true as if this were the mostest scientific study ever, because it confirms what you want to believe: that there is no worker shortage.

There is no shortage of idiots willing to believe any viral news story.

Holz acknowledged that his results may not be representative of the larger labor challenges in the country, since his search was local and targeted the most vocal critics of stimulus spending.

Or the opposite of what you said.  He started a simple focused experiment to show the countless articles about the labor shortage might not be the most statistically vetted pieces of journalism.


You haven't provided any information about him or what job applications he submitted. How is that the opposite of what I said?

Worse, he says that he targeted "the most vocal critics" only.

That means his study sample was biased, his pie chart was a meaningless piece of shiat, and he was even more likely to have set this up to fail. Bad data is still bad data, even with a disclaimer attached.

Sorry kids, gotta go to work. No more time for arguing with geniuses on the internet.
 
2021-10-20 6:45:20 AM  

ColonelCathcart: UncleDirtNap: It would be interesting to see what he wrote in each application. It's pretty easy to tilt these depending on how he filled them out.

[Fark user image image 425x566]

This was his cover sheet


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
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