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935 clicks; posted to Sports » on 20 Oct 2021 at 8:42 AM (6 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-10-20 6:48:00 AM  
Try the Bedford Springs.
Like putting on oversized Pringles.
If a hawk doesn't steal your egg.
 
2021-10-20 8:10:50 AM  
I've seen worse pin placements at my local. Golf should be tough.
 
2021-10-20 8:29:51 AM  
It is a horrible location, but it also rewards strategic putting.

But there aren't even pro tournaments who'd put a hole on a slope like that.

Well... The US Open might...
 
2021-10-20 8:49:24 AM  

puffy999: It is a horrible location, but it also rewards strategic putting.

But there aren't even pro tournaments who'd put a hole on a slope like that.

Well... The US Open might...


I used to think Pete Dye was the king of sadistic course designers but I don't think he'd put the cup there.

RIP Mr Dye. Though I do hope in hell you have to play 480 yard par 4s that require high fading long irons to back sloping table top greens for a few centuries!!
 
2021-10-20 8:58:37 AM  

tfresh: puffy999: It is a horrible location, but it also rewards strategic putting.

But there aren't even pro tournaments who'd put a hole on a slope like that.

Well... The US Open might...

I used to think Pete Dye was the king of sadistic course designers but I don't think he'd put the cup there.

RIP Mr Dye. Though I do hope in hell you have to play 480 yard par 4s that require high fading long irons to back sloping table top greens for a few centuries!!


I am so farking glad Bandon Dunes went the Scottish route...

Mike might have killed him before the first course was finished.
 
2021-10-20 9:00:30 AM  
Article shows how lacking in humility and a sense of humor so much of golf is.

Also: complaining a course is haaaard is douchey. I'm sorry it's not delivering low stroke counts to buff your ego today.

Laugh it off & play the next hole, folks.
 
2021-10-20 9:25:37 AM  
Are we all fore it?
 
2021-10-20 9:27:40 AM  
What's the problem, here? Everyone has to play it.
 
2021-10-20 9:37:48 AM  
Happy Gilmore accomplished that feat no more than an hour ago.
 
2021-10-20 9:46:06 AM  

Pedal Pedal: What's the problem, here? Everyone has to play it.


Because it's gimmicky and it turns a skill game into a luck game.  All sports have the element of luck but this is like the crane game - skill is a lower input than it appears to be.
 
2021-10-20 9:46:10 AM  
Meh -- the 12 yo's play harder holes at my home course and routinely birdy and par them
 
2021-10-20 9:56:05 AM  
golf is a voluntary activity as is playing that hole.  if it isn't fun just skip it.
 
2021-10-20 9:59:36 AM  

puffy999: It is a horrible location, but it also rewards strategic putting.

But there aren't even pro tournaments who'd put a hole on a slope like that.

Well... The US Open might...


I remember there was one year with a hole like that; they ended up watering the green midway through the day to try and limit the rolls, which made sense but totally farked over all the players who played it before the watering.
 
2021-10-20 10:02:53 AM  

bigbadideasinaction: puffy999: It is a horrible location, but it also rewards strategic putting.

But there aren't even pro tournaments who'd put a hole on a slope like that.

Well... The US Open might...

I remember there was one year with a hole like that; they ended up watering the green midway through the day to try and limit the rolls, which made sense but totally farked over all the players who played it before the watering.


Even that I thought was a hole kind of on the top of a hill just at the edge of the slope (and the dry/fast greens were also part of the issue). Wasn't that one of those winner at E or +1 tourneys?
 
2021-10-20 10:05:48 AM  

puffy999: bigbadideasinaction: puffy999: It is a horrible location, but it also rewards strategic putting.

But there aren't even pro tournaments who'd put a hole on a slope like that.

Well... The US Open might...

I remember there was one year with a hole like that; they ended up watering the green midway through the day to try and limit the rolls, which made sense but totally farked over all the players who played it before the watering.

Even that I thought was a hole kind of on the top of a hill just at the edge of the slope (and the dry/fast greens were also part of the issue). Wasn't that one of those winner at E or +1 tourneys?


Probably yeah, it was a long time ago but I remember laughing at the setup; it was tough but the dry and fast greens made a doable placement really bad.

Nobody on the PGA would put a pin mid-hill because the PGA doesn't want their players looking bad; the whole point is selling how good they are.
 
2021-10-20 11:36:35 AM  

puffy999: Even that I thought was a hole kind of on the top of a hill just at the edge of the slope (and the dry/fast greens were also part of the issue). Wasn't that one of those winner at E or +1 tourneys?


Shinnecock in 04. Nobody was below part for the final round, and there was at least one green that was basically unplayable. It wouldn't hold a golf ball.

The USGA absolutely lost the golf course that day.
 
2021-10-20 11:48:13 AM  
One of the early computer golf games was the Jack Nicklaus...Ultimate?...where you could design your own course. It was pretty cool for the early 90's, but the fun part was making greens shaped like giant, 30-ft-high anthills that made it impossible unless you happened to luckbox it in off the flagstick. In other words, a lot like the hole placement on the course in the article. The big difference is we'd do that for shiats and giggles, and there wasn't a state championship on the line. Also, I imagine the backup due to that ridiculous hole placement was massive.
 
2021-10-20 12:09:08 PM  
My home course has a diabiolical 18th hole.  It's a U-shaped hole that crosses a creek twice and to top it all off, the green is like a 30-degree angle.  It's a Par 5, but I'm an absolute duffer with no plausible way to improve so I feel like I'm accomplishing something when I take a 12 on it.

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2021-10-20 12:26:05 PM  
One of the first times I ever went mini-golfing, there was a hole where the cup was placed at the top of an incline. I either hit the ball too soft, which caused it to roll back to my feet, or I hit it too hard which made it bounce off the backstop and roll back to my feet. It must have taken 10 or more strokes to even get the ball up to the flat area where the cup was.

/watching the video gave me PTSD
 
2021-10-20 1:09:40 PM  
Look, competitive golf is always going to come down to a putting contest, and the game is inherently unfair. Anyone who has ever had a gust of wind pop up while a wedge shot was in the air knows it.

That being said, this was a high school tournament. Somebody said "I'm going to put the hole in the middle of a slope, so the good shots will roll away the same as bad ones", and someone else signed off on that plan. People like that shouldn't be allowed near amateur athletics.
 
2021-10-20 1:22:23 PM  

GregInIndy: Article shows how lacking in humility and a sense of humor so much of golf is.

Also: complaining a course is haaaard is douchey. I'm sorry it's not delivering low stroke counts to buff your ego today.

Laugh it off & play the next hole, folks.


The issue more is that hole is supposed to be a par 4. The average score for the hole should be 4 strokes. A good golfer should be able to par, birdie, or eagle it. The average for hole 12 was 6.8 strokes. The player that one got a par on the hole, but most players likely got at least a bogey or double bogey. That meant it was made far harder than it should have been in a competition. It's fair in the sense that everyone dealt with the bad pin placement, but it is something that would get the course and the people in charge of the greens in a lot of hot water. The par on each hole is supposed to be meaningful and give a golfer a metric to judge their own skill. It's also why courses have different tee boxes, etc. based on skill and strength to accommodate normal golfers so they have the chance to play the hole and hope to make par. It's bad if the holes are playing too easy and bad if they are playing too hard.
 
2021-10-20 3:09:23 PM  

greentea1985: GregInIndy: Article shows how lacking in humility and a sense of humor so much of golf is.

Also: complaining a course is haaaard is douchey. I'm sorry it's not delivering low stroke counts to buff your ego today.

Laugh it off & play the next hole, folks.

The issue more is that hole is supposed to be a par 4. The average score for the hole should be 4 strokes. A good golfer should be able to par, birdie, or eagle it. The average for hole 12 was 6.8 strokes. The player that one got a par on the hole, but most players likely got at least a bogey or double bogey. That meant it was made far harder than it should have been in a competition. It's fair in the sense that everyone dealt with the bad pin placement, but it is something that would get the course and the people in charge of the greens in a lot of hot water. The par on each hole is supposed to be meaningful and give a golfer a metric to judge their own skill. It's also why courses have different tee boxes, etc. based on skill and strength to accommodate normal golfers so they have the chance to play the hole and hope to make par. It's bad if the holes are playing too easy and bad if they are playing too hard.


So for the competition change par on that hole to 6 or 7. I'm on board with that. I don't really see an issue with having a very tough green at one hole though.
 
2021-10-20 4:34:19 PM  

GregInIndy: So for the competition change par on that hole to 6 or 7. I'm on board with that. I don't really see an issue with having a very tough green at one hole though.


A par of 7 is not recognized by the US Golf Association. Moreso, the very definition of par is "how many strokes it should take an expert golfer to reach the green, plus two putts."

I kinda feel like one key lesson of amateur athletics is "don't make a mockery of the sport".
 
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