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(NYPost)   A woman found an Amazon folder with thousands of audio recordings from her home gadgets, YIKES   (nypost.com) divider line
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2021-10-19 8:45:42 PM  
There have been literally hundreds if not thousands of articles published about how you can access your own voice recordings on Amazon. It's been on national news, blogs, aggregators like Fark, and pretty much everywhere else one could imagine. But, yeah. Shocking.

Even more shocking? If you choose to put a recording device in your home, it records you.

SHOCKING.
 
2021-10-19 8:55:35 PM  
They call it things like "Siri" and "Alexa" because if they called it "the microphone that is always on and always recording" you wouldn't trust it or want it in your house. And you shouldn't.
 
2021-10-19 8:56:10 PM  
Subby, saying 'my' implies she had access to recordings on other peoples' devices. As PN said above, this has been known for a while. A more newsworthy thing would be Amazon refusing to allow people access to the recordings the device makes that people willingly acknowledge records them. If they couldn't constantly be recording (even if it's erased immediately or written-over), then it would be impossible to catch the word that makes it actively listen.
 
2021-10-19 8:57:57 PM  
Back in my day, the first available kid walking by was the remote.
 
2021-10-19 8:59:16 PM  

Exluddite: if they called it "the microphone that is always on and always recording" you wouldn't trust it or want it in your house.


The Microphone That Is Always On And Always Recording

TMTIAOAAR

Timtiaoaar

Timtoar

Tim Tower

TimTower

There you go. A name based on its actual function. Still marketable, more honest.
 
2021-10-19 9:00:27 PM  
This looks like one of those articles that says 'The services that I use have data that they require to provide the services I'm using'.

I cant have Alexa call my mom if it doesn't have my mom's number.
I can't have Alexa work with my WiFi if it isn't connected to my WiFi.
I can't have Alexa give me the weather if it has no idea where I live.
I can't have Alexa do actual voice commands if it doesn't actually have my voice.
and so on....

I know EXACTLY what Alexa is, it's a wedge from Amazon to get me to buy more items on Amazon. It's pretty straightforward about this. Don't buy one if you don't like Amazon.

Also, who uses Alexa anymore?
Hey Samuel L Jackson, tell me the weather, please.
 
2021-10-19 9:02:30 PM  

Exluddite: They call it things like "Siri" and "Alexa" because if they called it "the microphone that is always on and always recording" you wouldn't trust it or want it in your house. And you shouldn't.


How's your flip phone?
 
2021-10-19 9:05:55 PM  
That's a lotta farts. Enjoy.
 
2021-10-19 9:10:58 PM  

Joe USer: Exluddite: They call it things like "Siri" and "Alexa" because if they called it "the microphone that is always on and always recording" you wouldn't trust it or want it in your house. And you shouldn't.

How's your flip phone?


Yes, I get that you can have the same thing exist with your phone, but you can opt to turn it off.
Whether or not someone is maliciously listening via your phones mic is an entirely different and more paranoid discussion.
 
2021-10-19 9:12:24 PM  
how did they have my address?

Jesus, that woman is a moron
 
2021-10-19 10:32:57 PM  
Maybe if she didn't talk so much
 
2021-10-19 11:56:39 PM  
Device designed to listen to everything you say actually listens to everything you say. I'm flabbergasted.
 
2021-10-20 12:00:20 AM  
And what did Amazon do with all these recordings? Probably nothing. Obviously we'll never completely know, but think of the resources Amazon would be wasting to do anything with all these files. I just can't think of any real nefarious angle here other than device listens for commands, didn't find anything. It's clearly not on all the time or even Amazon would run out of storage space.
 
2021-10-20 12:02:58 AM  
I don't understand the obsession with the internet connected smart speakers.  You can stream audio from your smartphone to a Bluetooth speaker just fine.
/voluntarily installing an expensive  corporate microphone in your home...
 
2021-10-20 12:05:41 AM  

WhackingDay: And what did Amazon do with all these recordings? Probably nothing. Obviously we'll never completely know, but think of the resources Amazon would be wasting to do anything with all these files. I just can't think of any real nefarious angle here other than device listens for commands, didn't find anything. It's clearly not on all the time or even Amazon would run out of storage space.


Amazon might not have any further need for them, but a nefarious actor who wants to program a deepfake voice tool sure might like to have them.
 
2021-10-20 12:05:41 AM  
Why the long face?
 
2021-10-20 12:06:05 AM  
I kind of like knowing someone is listening to me. It turns me on.
 
2021-10-20 12:06:11 AM  

AllCatsAreBeautiful: I don't understand the obsession with the internet connected smart speakers.  You can stream audio from your smartphone to a Bluetooth speaker just fine.
/voluntarily installing an expensive  corporate microphone in your home...


Every time I'm at my brother's house I call out "Hey google set an alarm for 2 am"
 
2021-10-20 12:06:38 AM  
No shiat, Sherlock.

My MIL was biatching about how her coffee pot died to my wife via speakerphone, and how she just wished she had a percolator for 3 days (I gave her a perc pot).

Less than 6 hours later, I was getting adds for perc pots AND I don't drink coffee.
 
2021-10-20 12:07:33 AM  
This is what you signed up for, dumbass.
 
2021-10-20 12:07:43 AM  
it is like they ae everywhere...

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also what did you expect...!?!

 
2021-10-20 12:08:27 AM  
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2021-10-20 12:08:44 AM  
I thought the deal was the items were supposed to use an ongoing ring-buffer and long-term record nothing? At least that what advocates here posted for a long time.

/Never did the research
/Was gifted an Amazon doodad
/It is a doorstop
 
2021-10-20 12:18:20 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Exluddite: if they called it "the microphone that is always on and always recording" you wouldn't trust it or want it in your house.

The Microphone That Is Always On And Always Recording

TMTIAOAAR

Timtiaoaar

Timtoar

Tim Tower

TimTower

There you go. A name based on its actual function. Still marketable, more honest.


If you made one shaped like a mindcraft creeper that was named "creeper" it would be even more honest and absolutely snapped up by a large number of people.
 
2021-10-20 12:21:21 AM  

Exluddite: Joe USer: Exluddite: They call it things like "Siri" and "Alexa" because if they called it "the microphone that is always on and always recording" you wouldn't trust it or want it in your house. And you shouldn't.

How's your flip phone?

Yes, I get that you can have the same thing exist with your phone, but you can opt to turn it off.
Whether or not someone is maliciously listening via your phones mic is an entirely different and more paranoid discussion.


How to Disable Camera & Microphone Sensors on Android 10 and 11
Youtube 2_rRFsZCAFk
 
2021-10-20 12:22:20 AM  
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Do you use protection?
 
2021-10-20 12:24:21 AM  
It's super creepy a device that is partially intended for smart home features would listen to you when you talk about turning on the lights.  Magic has gone too far.
 
2021-10-20 12:26:13 AM  

Pocket Ninja: There have been literally hundreds if not thousands of articles published about how you can access your own voice recordings on Amazon. It's been on national news, blogs, aggregators like Fark, and pretty much everywhere else one could imagine. But, yeah. Shocking.

Even more shocking? If you choose to put a recording device in your home, it records you.

SHOCKING.


Even more shocking:

She revealed that she has three Amazon smart speakers.
 
2021-10-20 12:30:40 AM  

Herb Utsmelz: That's a lotta farts. Enjoy.


"Alexa, fart for me."
Youtube 4nAzq_Pxd3o
 
2021-10-20 12:31:03 AM  
Amazon allows the user to decide how long recordings are maintained and will automatically delete them at that time. They also have prominently in the app a switch that allows the user to delete all right then.

Users can listen to their queries and Alexa will ask if the response was what they expected. After a while it becomes almost perfect at recognizing the question asked and responds correctly.

Of course for those who are concerned about what they say being kept, remember everything posted on the Internet including Far, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and all the others are FOREVER.

Jon Gruden is a perfect example.8>)
 
2021-10-20 12:32:20 AM  
I bought an Alexa because I was lonely and but I guess I talked to it too much and it shut down. Now I talk to a brick.
 
2021-10-20 12:33:52 AM  
NY Post link, it can be safely ignored.
 
2021-10-20 12:34:02 AM  

cyberspacedout: Herb Utsmelz: That's a lotta farts. Enjoy.

[YouTube video: "Alexa, fart for me."]


Right now, I'm completely ignoring the fact that I'm an adult.

Alexa fart
Youtube oP9i8HXQmeY
 
2021-10-20 12:37:08 AM  

Exluddite: Joe USer: Exluddite: They call it things like "Siri" and "Alexa" because if they called it "the microphone that is always on and always recording" you wouldn't trust it or want it in your house. And you shouldn't.

How's your flip phone?

Yes, I get that you can have the same thing exist with your phone, but you can opt to turn it off.
Whether or not someone is maliciously listening via your phones mic is an entirely different and more paranoid discussion.


Fun fact: Those with mental issues are prime targets for that kind of thing. Not even the victims will believe themselves.
 
2021-10-20 12:42:08 AM  
I have a Ring door bell for the last 6 months, and it has some pure comedy gold on it. Scaring the living shiat out of drunk family members and friends gets me off.
 
2021-10-20 12:48:01 AM  
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2021-10-20 12:52:02 AM  

Fulltimer: Amazon allows the user to decide how long recordings are maintained and will automatically delete them at that time. They also have prominently in the app a switch that allows the user to delete all right then.


Most users will not turn off motion smoothing on their new HDTV's or adjust settings on a thing they bought. Most users will have shameful, shameful sex...in earshot of the thing they bought.
Why ask Why? Try Bud Dry.
 
2021-10-20 12:55:33 AM  
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2021-10-20 1:04:04 AM  

cyberspacedout: Herb Utsmelz: That's a lotta farts. Enjoy.

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That dude sounded quite...gratified...by what Alexa was doing.
 
2021-10-20 1:04:56 AM  
For me, Echo Plus is a fantastic kitchen tool.

There is a skill for my favorite streaming service, so I can start/stop and change volume without touching anything with dirty hands.

Set a timer, multiple timers, or get volume/weight conversions verbally.

It only lives in the kitchen and what it hears there, for the most part, I don't give a shiate about.
 
2021-10-20 1:06:41 AM  
FTFA: While another joked: "Can someone explain to me why this is 'scary'? I'm not interesting enough to care if they have my contacts or audio."

Until you do something the authorities find 'interesting', like witnessing something you shouldn't have, or asking too many pertinent questions at a government meeting, or organizing a meeting of Amazon workers hoping to unionize. Then the powers that be will comb through your recordings and search for things to discredit and/or humiliate you.

/IIRC, aren't all Amazon workers given a "free" Alexa upon being hired?
 
2021-10-20 1:08:24 AM  
If the New York Post is against it, then I'm pretty sure I'm for it.
 
2021-10-20 1:16:59 AM  

Creature: For me, Echo Plus is a fantastic kitchen tool.

There is a skill for my favorite streaming service, so I can start/stop and change volume without touching anything with dirty hands.

Set a timer, multiple timers, or get volume/weight conversions verbally.

It only lives in the kitchen and what it hears there, for the most part, I don't give a shiate about.


A recipe for chiterllin's might get you ads for lime and how to get rid of dead animal smells.
 
2021-10-20 1:29:18 AM  
Hurry up and forget about them again, so I can get back to stealing IP from everyone else's recordings.
 
2021-10-20 2:37:41 AM  

some_beer_drinker: [explainxkcd.com image 285x413]


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2021-10-20 2:46:15 AM  
I know this has been covered by y'all. But to reiterate, how can you be surprised, let alone angry, that the device which responds to your verbal commands records your voice.
 
2021-10-20 2:53:17 AM  

ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: No shiat, Sherlock.

My MIL was biatching about how her coffee pot died to my wife via speakerphone, and how she just wished she had a percolator for 3 days (I gave her a perc pot).

Less than 6 hours later, I was getting adds for perc pots AND I don't drink coffee.


I've had that one happen to me.  Talk about something you have never researched ever and begin getting ads for it within 5-6 hours.  I only have and android phone.
shiats creepy.
Who needs the 4th amendment when you give it all away.?
 
2021-10-20 2:58:11 AM  
The social media star often makes videos about data privacy and tech.
She said: "I'm not totally comfortable with everything they have."
The video has been viewed millions of times


Am I the only one that thinks the above 3 lines are ironic?
Is that the right word?
Oxymoronic?
Oxyironic?
 
2021-10-20 3:01:24 AM  

Nadie_AZ: Back in my day, the first available kid walking by was the remote.


When I was a kid in the '60's, my grandma had a Zenith with an early remote. We all called it the 'clicker'. Because it clicked.
 
2021-10-20 3:09:09 AM  

0z79: Exluddite: Joe USer: Exluddite: They call it things like "Siri" and "Alexa" because if they called it "the microphone that is always on and always recording" you wouldn't trust it or want it in your house. And you shouldn't.

How's your flip phone?

Yes, I get that you can have the same thing exist with your phone, but you can opt to turn it off.
Whether or not someone is maliciously listening via your phones mic is an entirely different and more paranoid discussion.

Fun fact: Those with mental issues are prime targets for that kind of thing. Not even the victims will believe themselves.


The ultimate paranoia-
"There's no such thing as paranoia, man! They just invented it to discredit the people who are on to them!"

/or is it?
 
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